It shows clearly why every one is so frustrated. I have a lot of friends here in this part of world, and no one really wants to go back. I wish we can ever hear the news that brings pride to us as being pakistanis abroad !!!
U are right bro but I beleive that one day will come when these Europeans will be applying to come to Pakistan just like we go there. May be it remains a dream forever, but at least we can try.
All the news we get about our country are really depressing, but lets pray that things change. In UK being Paki is not considered to be a good word either, but not all of us are bad.
i am feeling sorry …very sorry to know about views of u ppl living in abroad…
u all r suppose to be the ambassoders of pakistan..whereever u are….
if u ppl feel like taht …so who can help make the image of our country better in front of the world…
no2 …u ppl are the young blood of pakistan…pakistan has left only hopes with u ppl ..to change the things …
if u ppl wont care for the mother land ..then who wud be ???
plz plz plz
dont do that to pakistan !!!
i request u ppl ……..
please do not forget The Lost Decade (1988-1999). The history of Pakistani politics is one of failure to establish enduring and credible political institutions. For many years, the generals alternated with political leaders. The causes of this political instability are greater than the personal ambitions or failings of Pakistan’s leaders . The governments of Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif (each with two terms in office between 1988 and 1998) lacked any ideology. They both tried to appear in modernist garb, but performance was generally worse than that of their predecessor governments. Both Nawaz Sharif’s and Benazir’s terms have been characterized by excessive corruption, involving Benazir’s husband and Nawaz personally, and his family. Free market policies, political opportunism plus financial greed were the uniting features of both Prime Ministers, while they waged political war against each other for personal domination of the political system. Corruption, the still prevalent power of feudal landowners, and the permanent power games of the political elite all contributed to paralysis in the political system. The economic situation worsened to an extent that the decade is now known as “The Lost Decade. Resultantly the populace celebrated the dismissal of these democratic governments by distributing sweets
Great show once again. I definately think that if you have time, then this show should be added daily, because he is a brilliant presenter and tries to find out the truth.
Some people here claim that democratic govts in pakistan were corrupt and so military dictatorship recaptured the power.
My message is:
1. Democracy needs patience. Initially govt are corrupt but slowly with the passage of time people become fed up and start demanding performance from their political parties and this leads to purification in politics. All democratic nations had in the past corrupt govts. The solution is only more democracy because it is not democracy that fails people but rather it is people that fail democracy.
Changes are slow but they definitely happen.
Army has always wanted to capture power not to defeat India (Which they never managed to do) but to provide LUXURIOUS life for their GENERALS. My father was posted in Pakistan High commission in India. What I saw was stark difference in Indian army general and our generals. Indian generals barely manage to maintain their showsha where as our generals have palatial houses. Indian officer can apply for only one plot (of 250sq yards) in their life (that too if he gets lucky and his name comes out in lottery) where as here pakistani genrals have more than 2 plots each more than 1000 sq yards.
One has to simply look in lahore or karachi defence housing or defence colonies.
Army is more corrupt because they break their oath of never intervening in civilian politics. ISI is always rigging elections to make sure that corrupt politicians win.
3. The next govt if democratically elected will also be corrupt but we must persist with democracy for more than 50 years. Inshallah the system will purify itself.
Democracy is not a “one minute cure” but it is atleast “50 year cure”. On the other hand military is not cure but cancer.
thanks for the post kamran khan show, can u please continue post this programme becasue its much better then insight javed malik or Q&A pj mir. please admin consider my request
$10 million …….. It is astonishing. What can I say…….. I am shocked. And still these generals have the nerve to make laws that ban any criticism!!!
Before the current revolution is over we must also remove these laws under which Javed Hashmi was imprisoned. Army should be placed under firm civilian control. Army facilities for jawans should be increased and that for generals must be reduced. After all it is jawan who fight and generals are corrupt.
Moreover we must rewrite our constitution such that
1. Army can NEVER rule us again.
2. We have independent election commission.
3. Oath for supreme court is fixed and should not be changable by generals etc.
4. Ban person specific amendments.
5. Media is made absolutely free. Laws like PAMERA completely removed.
6. Education till 14 years with science, maths as compulsory.
7. Removal of 58-2b from the consttution so that one man cannot remove elected govt.
8. Place police under judiciary (as Germany and france have).
9. Ban on exGenerals on becoming Ambassdors, governors etc.
10. Elimination of ISI sections that deal with all domestic politics.
11. Complete control and supervision on ISI by a committee of elected representatives- Prime minister, Leader of opposition, President, Chief justice of Supreme court.
12. Creation of independent income tax commission. Like american IRS that confiscates extra property from known sources of income from all (politicians, generals, bureaucrats etc).
13. National level exam on basic knowledge about pakistan for people who want to fight elections. They should atleast know our basic geography, flag and its meaning, anthem etc.
14. Making a vigilance commission for controlling departmental corruption.
15. Providing atleast 7% of GDP for education and 5% on health.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:50 am
It shows clearly why every one is so frustrated. I have a lot of friends here in this part of world, and no one really wants to go back. I wish we can ever hear the news that brings pride to us as being pakistanis abroad !!!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:57 am
U are right bro but I beleive that one day will come when these Europeans will be applying to come to Pakistan just like we go there. May be it remains a dream forever, but at least we can try.
All the news we get about our country are really depressing, but lets pray that things change. In UK being Paki is not considered to be a good word either, but not all of us are bad.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:58 am
Sab se pehley Pakistan !!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:28 am
i am feeling sorry …very sorry to know about views of u ppl living in abroad…
u all r suppose to be the ambassoders of pakistan..whereever u are….
if u ppl feel like taht …so who can help make the image of our country better in front of the world…
no2 …u ppl are the young blood of pakistan…pakistan has left only hopes with u ppl ..to change the things …
if u ppl wont care for the mother land ..then who wud be ???
plz plz plz
dont do that to pakistan !!!
i request u ppl ……..
September 5th, 2007 at 3:47 am
please do not forget The Lost Decade (1988-1999). The history of Pakistani politics is one of failure to establish enduring and credible political institutions. For many years, the generals alternated with political leaders. The causes of this political instability are greater than the personal ambitions or failings of Pakistan’s leaders . The governments of Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif (each with two terms in office between 1988 and 1998) lacked any ideology. They both tried to appear in modernist garb, but performance was generally worse than that of their predecessor governments. Both Nawaz Sharif’s and Benazir’s terms have been characterized by excessive corruption, involving Benazir’s husband and Nawaz personally, and his family. Free market policies, political opportunism plus financial greed were the uniting features of both Prime Ministers, while they waged political war against each other for personal domination of the political system. Corruption, the still prevalent power of feudal landowners, and the permanent power games of the political elite all contributed to paralysis in the political system. The economic situation worsened to an extent that the decade is now known as “The Lost Decade. Resultantly the populace celebrated the dismissal of these democratic governments by distributing sweets
September 5th, 2007 at 3:58 am
Great show once again. I definately think that if you have time, then this show should be added daily, because he is a brilliant presenter and tries to find out the truth.
September 5th, 2007 at 6:58 am
Well said Mr. Absaar Alam
Every body knows how to diffuse the situation except Mushy. Why is he playing with so many lives, I will never know
September 5th, 2007 at 7:14 am
News items at S.No 1, 4 and 8 on this site provide a good read.
http://nawaiwaqt.com.pk/urdu/daily/sep-2007/05/index1.php#10
September 5th, 2007 at 7:46 am
Some people here claim that democratic govts in pakistan were corrupt and so military dictatorship recaptured the power.
My message is:
1. Democracy needs patience. Initially govt are corrupt but slowly with the passage of time people become fed up and start demanding performance from their political parties and this leads to purification in politics. All democratic nations had in the past corrupt govts. The solution is only more democracy because it is not democracy that fails people but rather it is people that fail democracy.
Changes are slow but they definitely happen.
2. Military generals as can be seen from a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5nKd88lbw&mode=related&search=
(Just listen to what ISI major says from 8:20 onwards)
Army has always wanted to capture power not to defeat India (Which they never managed to do) but to provide LUXURIOUS life for their GENERALS. My father was posted in Pakistan High commission in India. What I saw was stark difference in Indian army general and our generals. Indian generals barely manage to maintain their showsha where as our generals have palatial houses. Indian officer can apply for only one plot (of 250sq yards) in their life (that too if he gets lucky and his name comes out in lottery) where as here pakistani genrals have more than 2 plots each more than 1000 sq yards.
One has to simply look in lahore or karachi defence housing or defence colonies.
Army is more corrupt because they break their oath of never intervening in civilian politics. ISI is always rigging elections to make sure that corrupt politicians win.
3. The next govt if democratically elected will also be corrupt but we must persist with democracy for more than 50 years. Inshallah the system will purify itself.
Democracy is not a “one minute cure” but it is atleast “50 year cure”. On the other hand military is not cure but cancer.
September 5th, 2007 at 8:27 am
admin
thanks for the post kamran khan show, can u please continue post this programme becasue its much better then insight javed malik or Q&A pj mir. please admin consider my request
thanks for your good work
September 5th, 2007 at 9:28 am
$10 million …….. It is astonishing. What can I say…….. I am shocked. And still these generals have the nerve to make laws that ban any criticism!!!
Before the current revolution is over we must also remove these laws under which Javed Hashmi was imprisoned. Army should be placed under firm civilian control. Army facilities for jawans should be increased and that for generals must be reduced. After all it is jawan who fight and generals are corrupt.
Moreover we must rewrite our constitution such that
1. Army can NEVER rule us again.
2. We have independent election commission.
3. Oath for supreme court is fixed and should not be changable by generals etc.
4. Ban person specific amendments.
5. Media is made absolutely free. Laws like PAMERA completely removed.
6. Education till 14 years with science, maths as compulsory.
7. Removal of 58-2b from the consttution so that one man cannot remove elected govt.
8. Place police under judiciary (as Germany and france have).
9. Ban on exGenerals on becoming Ambassdors, governors etc.
10. Elimination of ISI sections that deal with all domestic politics.
11. Complete control and supervision on ISI by a committee of elected representatives- Prime minister, Leader of opposition, President, Chief justice of Supreme court.
12. Creation of independent income tax commission. Like american IRS that confiscates extra property from known sources of income from all (politicians, generals, bureaucrats etc).
13. National level exam on basic knowledge about pakistan for people who want to fight elections. They should atleast know our basic geography, flag and its meaning, anthem etc.
14. Making a vigilance commission for controlling departmental corruption.
15. Providing atleast 7% of GDP for education and 5% on health.