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You called NS coward when he went away from military detention, this shows you Army bcoz you did not blame the other side of deal maker.

You said Army was legal because SC validated it, this also shows your love to army, you never showed how illegal way they came.

Not once you said that Army illegally detained NS and you never said Musharraf came through illegal means and kept on blaming NS, this clearly shows your bias.

Read my comments above, i never said that NS did not do mistakes, but you still keep on putting more and more and more and more mistakes just to prove WHAT? What are you trying to PROVE here except you hatred when I already said that NS did mistakes???????

You hate NS and you have some personal problem. 90% of guys on this forum don’t have that personal problem and I think we can live with your comments since every society has few misguided people like you.

Banta

“I think NS did something really bad with you family thats why you hate him and love military generals”
I can only request you to at least try to rise above this level. BTW this is what I call propaganda, never in my responses have I shown any sympathy for any general? I have clearly stated a number of times that I support NS and also that I regret the fact that he is standing with NS and MMA. I also acknowledged that he had an immoral past but since he has repented (husnayzun), therefore I am willing to give him the benfit of doubt. As far as other options (BB, NS, Musharraf) are concerned, they are equally corrupt and liers.

If I may remind you about the other mistakes that you admitted on top of the Sita White Case
(a) Inviting army to run WAPDA during so called democratic era
(b) Establishing Millitary Courts during so called democratic era

I think NS did something really bad with you family thats why you hate him and love military generals.

Banta

Choice is yours, at least I didn’t force you to answer. You should only indluge in such discussions when you have the patience and will to let the discussion take its logical course, as you did when we had the 1st contact and you ended up in acknowldging a number of BIG MISTAKES comitted by NS.

I already gave logical and educated reply to your baseless propaganda, but they are too much for you to understand. You can go and live in Burma if you love military generals.

Banta

This is normal, whenever it comes to prove you give up, so you don’t have any news paper article to substantiate your Exile theory?

Similarly you shyed away to point out the issue which in your opinion is baseless propaganda, because you knew very well that I can provide the links to contradict your claims.

Next time when you want to engage in such discussion, do have the patience to reach to a logical conclusion. BTW this did happen once when you acknowledged several BIG MISTAKES by NS.

Read your own comments, you opened 10 more propaganda channels and I am not going to waste anymore time with anyone who reflects views of minority.

Banta

“baseless propaganda”

I would encourage you to challenge the point that you think is baseless and we can exclusively discuss the topic of your choice, everything that I have said has a base and it certainly is not propaganda.

Banta
“NS did not run like a coward”
Can you please provide one single reference of any article from a newspaper (not by Ata Ul Haque Qasmi) which is inline with your invented theory of RETREAT Strategy (exile)?

Banta
“Another fact is that NS was never sentenced by a CIVIAN COURT and never in Jail”

This is not because he never comitted a wrong, this is because he had justices “like” Qayuum and Rafiq Tarar to rely upon.

Let me come from a different perspective:

You would agree that Musharraf is an illegal president, I am assuming that your answer would be YES (correct me if I am wrong). But since SC has legitimised 17th amendment and based on (a) all the tricks by his corrupt leagal experts and (b) Doctrine of Necessity etc, he is a legitimate President. Why, because he was in power and it wasn’t difficult for him to get away from it. In common man perception, he would remain illegal no matter what SC judgement is.

Similarly NS has done a lot of misdeeds but since he used his Brief Cases to buy and bribe judges, therefore he got free from all the cases, it does not mean that he is not corrupt. So brother (if I may say so), yes he has not been sentenced in a Civil court, but there are very obivous reasons for it and I think you know it too.

The problem with you guys is that once i reply on any baseless propaganda, you cunningly and cleverly add new propaganda and come to baseless things like “CORRUPT” etc to show your personal hatred against NS.

I never said that NS is Paak Saaf Angel. My reply was in context to Deal, not any other topic. I can open 10000 charges against your favorite leaders if I want to but I don’t want to launch another hate debate like you.

NS did not run like a coward. You can never have something fair when you have “ONE MAN” vs “ONE ARMY” and I will call it “Retreat and Attack” strategy, as this has been practiced by even prominent Muslim leaders in past.

Another fact is that NS was never sentenced by a CIVIAN COURT and never in Jail.

He was all the time under Military Detention in 16 century Attock Fort, not like others who were in proper jail.

And NS’s son, brothers, nephews were all in 14 months in illegal military custody without single charge.

I will call one very selfish who would not try to save his family from illegal armed gangsters who do not know what is rule, law, constitution.

Banta