Comments on: Meray Mutabiq – 10 September 07 http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:59:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Allah Bukhsh http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-10207 Allah Bukhsh Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:04:36 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-10207 I can't believe the Most corrupt Leader in the history of Pakistan BB will return to Pakistan. I always thought very high of Musharraf but he lost his respect in my eyes. BB and her corrupt husband pretty musch cleaned up the country's wealth and now they are back for more. How can people forget what she did with the people of Pakistan bduring her two miserable rules. Govt. of Pakistan siexed her 1.7 Billion US Dollars worth of assets, all from our hard earned taxes for Pakistan. She is now coming back for more, I would definitely prefer an Army ruler like Musharraf over corrupt and greedy Bhuttos. BB has a mission, she wants to take her father's revenge from each and every Pakistani. I pray to Allah that Supreme Court interferes in this and stop this from happening but Supreme Court is dead against Musharraf that's why he has to shake hands with a corrupt Leader like BB. I can’t believe the Most corrupt Leader in the history of Pakistan BB will return to Pakistan. I always thought very high of Musharraf but he lost his respect in my eyes. BB and her corrupt husband pretty musch cleaned up the country’s wealth and now they are back for more. How can people forget what she did with the people of Pakistan bduring her two miserable rules. Govt. of Pakistan siexed her 1.7 Billion US Dollars worth of assets, all from our hard earned taxes for Pakistan. She is now coming back for more, I would definitely prefer an Army ruler like Musharraf over corrupt and greedy Bhuttos. BB has a mission, she wants to take her father’s revenge from each and every Pakistani. I pray to Allah that Supreme Court interferes in this and stop this from happening but Supreme Court is dead against Musharraf that’s why he has to shake hands with a corrupt Leader like BB.

]]> By: KAWA http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-9387 KAWA Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:09:40 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-9387 If the bench constituted by the CJ gives the verdict in favor of Mush (State of Necessity)and allow Mush to be elected to the Presidential office as a serving Army General.. This will be worse than Justice Munir's judgment and we as a nation will face the consequences for this for the next 60 years. Every COAS going forward on reaching 60 years, will aspire for that position and civilian Governments will be blackmailed to offer him that position or face his wrath!!! If the bench constituted by the CJ gives the verdict in favor of Mush (State of Necessity)and allow Mush to be elected to the Presidential office as a serving Army General..

This will be worse than Justice Munir’s judgment and we as a nation will face the consequences for this for the next 60 years. Every COAS going forward on reaching 60 years, will aspire for that position and civilian Governments will be blackmailed to offer him that position or face his wrath!!!

]]> By: KAWA http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-9383 KAWA Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:27:24 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-9383 Let me throw this to all; If Pakistan is dismembered today and maybe become part of India or any other country (like East Pakistan saga), who will suffer or what do we stand to loose? Not one bit! The only people who will be without jobs will be these corrupt Generals and they will loose their cushy jobs... maybe like Iraq, the rulers will give them jobs in the police! The common masses will be just fine and the only thing we will have to worry about is accepting a different color flag. Who cares!! The condition of the country is so pathetic that it is simply shameful to accept that you belong to that land. I agree with someone's comment on this blog, ".... that now I know how the Bengalis felt and hats off to them to grab their freedom..". I agree fully! I visited Bangladesh (Dhakka and Chittagong) in early 1982 and heard some of the horror stories from very well placed people of what they had to endure under the ruthless Pak Army. Women and children were raped, girls were picked up from their homes by "sipahis" to be presented to their officers at night.. It's a pitty that they let 100,000 surrender and go back to west Pakistan. They should have slaughtered them like the taliban are doing in Waziristan! Let me throw this to all;

If Pakistan is dismembered today and maybe become part of India or any other country (like East Pakistan saga), who will suffer or what do we stand to loose? Not one bit!

The only people who will be without jobs will be these corrupt Generals and they will loose their cushy jobs… maybe like Iraq, the rulers will give them jobs in the police! The common masses will be just fine and the only thing we will have to worry about is accepting a different color flag. Who cares!!

The condition of the country is so pathetic that it is simply shameful to accept that you belong to that land. I agree with someone’s comment on this blog, “…. that now I know how the Bengalis felt and hats off to them to grab their freedom..”. I agree fully! I visited Bangladesh (Dhakka and Chittagong) in early 1982 and heard some of the horror stories from very well placed people of what they had to endure under the ruthless Pak Army. Women and children were raped, girls were picked up from their homes by “sipahis” to be presented to their officers at night.. It’s a pitty that they let 100,000 surrender and go back to west Pakistan. They should have slaughtered them like the taliban are doing in Waziristan!

]]> By: hassan http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-7205 hassan Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:03:43 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-7205 wasti was kidded out of pml after this programme wasti was kidded out of pml after this programme

]]> By: Niaz Khaliq http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6288 Niaz Khaliq Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:53:01 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6288 One of the coments has ref to John Boulton on Democracy in Pakistan. This is not new. Democracy is a slogan often used. In middle East all of the allies they have are dictators. All without exception. Democracy isfor public consumption only. n. Khaliq One of the coments has ref to John Boulton on Democracy in Pakistan.

This is not new. Democracy is a slogan often used. In middle East all of the allies they have are dictators. All without exception. Democracy isfor public consumption only.

n. Khaliq

]]> By: Mohsan(Japan) http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6163 Mohsan(Japan) Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:33:38 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6163 Dear fellows, I am continuously disappointed after 10th september. Now i have started feeling that nothing has changed. we are excited just because media is showing events in detail, as they are unfolding in the political scene of Pakistan now a days. Many of us just feel they are intellectuals. Can any body from this forum tell me, that he or she was on the street to welcome NS? Most probably, answer will be no----if there is somebody with `yes`, i salute him. We are dead as a nation. societies cant be reformed with discussions only---untill and unless we dont lauch a full-fledge agitation against the military rule and supremacy of constitution, we will be treated the same way for ever. We love political discussions, try our level best to prove one`s point but practicaly we are dumb a--hole. we dont want to sacrify anything---and success without sacrifice is just a dream. Sorry for such disappointing note but this is what I feel after 10 September (forced exile of NS against the supreme court decision and drama at Sindh High court showing our respect for rule of law). Sometimes i think that i should not tell anybody here in Japan that I am from Pakistan. Dear fellows,
I am continuously disappointed after 10th september. Now i have started feeling that nothing has changed. we are excited just because media is showing events in detail, as they are unfolding in the political scene of Pakistan now a days. Many of us just feel they are intellectuals. Can any body from this forum tell me, that he or she was on the street to welcome NS? Most probably, answer will be no—-if there is somebody with `yes`, i salute him. We are dead as a nation. societies cant be reformed with discussions only—untill and unless we dont lauch a full-fledge agitation against the military rule and supremacy of constitution, we will be treated the same way for ever. We love political discussions, try our level best to prove one`s point but practicaly we are dumb a–hole. we dont want to sacrify anything—and success without sacrifice is just a dream.
Sorry for such disappointing note but this is what I feel after 10 September (forced exile of NS against the supreme court decision and drama at Sindh High court showing our respect for rule of law). Sometimes i think that i should not tell anybody here in Japan that I am from Pakistan.

]]> By: Khanzada http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6161 Khanzada Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:17:27 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6161 Musharaf holding dogs in his hands/lap is being joked about. Yes it is a nice joke and Musharaf is the centre of the joke. We have in the Quran ASHAB KAHF where there are 8 in which one is a dog who went into slumber for a long time. The seven persons in it are called ASHAB (respectable term). What have people to say for this. Khanzada Musharaf holding dogs in his hands/lap is being joked about. Yes it is a nice joke and Musharaf is the centre of the joke. We have in the Quran ASHAB KAHF where there are 8 in which one is a dog who went into slumber for a long time. The seven persons in it are called ASHAB (respectable term). What have people to say for this.

Khanzada

]]> By: Dilawar Khan http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6160 Dilawar Khan Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:06:08 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6160 What should we do??? The political leaders/oportunists are very powerful people with money and means to harm the common ordinary pakistani. So the path we must follow is to allow them to fight among themselves in any forum they want (the courts or the Streets). We dont have to go into the streets for them. If new leaders contest from the grass root level independently or from non corrupt parties, we can vote for them based on our assessments. The Old Political parties who have wielded political power stink. Keep yourselves safe & dont take undue risks for others. In this system of democracy, these people will try their level best to stop leaders from grass roots coming up independently. It is the sitting Govt. alone which can manage this aspect of true democracy. We will have to watch how they do it. I do not like the idea of the present Govt. negotiatiating with BB who is known to be corrupt. I also do not know what forces are working behind the scenes. There is no democracy only empty slogans. Dilawar Khan What should we do???

The political leaders/oportunists are very powerful people with money and means to harm the common ordinary pakistani. So the path we must follow is to allow them to fight among themselves in any forum they want (the courts or the Streets). We dont have to go into the streets for them. If new leaders contest from the grass root level independently or from non corrupt parties, we can vote for them based on our assessments. The Old Political parties who have wielded political power stink.

Keep yourselves safe & dont take undue risks for others. In this system of democracy, these people will try their level best to stop leaders from grass roots coming up independently.

It is the sitting Govt. alone which can manage this aspect of true democracy. We will have to watch how they do it.

I do not like the idea of the present Govt. negotiatiating with BB who is known to be corrupt. I also do not know what forces are working behind the scenes. There is no democracy only empty slogans.

Dilawar Khan

]]> By: Iftiqar http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6159 Iftiqar Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:23:13 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6159 Find ways and means to bring educated candidates from grass roots from all over Pakistan to contest elections. PPP & PMLN and certain others who have enjoyed Power in he corridors of Power and established a bad reputation should be screened out. Let us build a govt. from grass roots. Forget the old selfish crooks who talk of democracy and are not democratic themselves in the parlimentarly form of Govt. A president with powers to dismiss a mis behaving democratic Govt. is needed Whether Musharaf, Leghari, Ghulam Ishaq Khan or anybody would do. A Prime Minister with unfettered powers without checks and balances is dangerous as power corrupts. IFTIQAR Find ways and means to bring educated candidates from grass roots from all over Pakistan to contest elections.

PPP & PMLN and certain others who have enjoyed Power in he corridors of Power and established a bad reputation should be screened out. Let us build a govt. from grass roots. Forget the old selfish crooks who talk of democracy and are not democratic themselves in the parlimentarly form of Govt. A president with powers to dismiss a mis behaving democratic Govt. is needed Whether Musharaf, Leghari, Ghulam Ishaq Khan or anybody would do. A Prime Minister with unfettered powers without checks and balances is dangerous as power corrupts.

IFTIQAR

]]> By: Me http://pkpolitics.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6158 Me Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:46:23 +0000 http://s25925.gridserver.com/2007/09/10/meray-mutabiq-10-september-07/#comment-6158 I have read some post against army and praising Bangladesh for separation. Some gone as far as cursing army to damnation. I tell you what neither the army nor the people fighting against them will go to heaven,Read the hadith about it(i think most of you will know what i am talking about). Secondly all the leaders are bunch of thieves. "Allah imposes a leader on nation which is one among them and reflects the image of there morality." So dont freakin complain. I have read some post against army and praising Bangladesh for separation. Some gone as far as cursing army to damnation. I tell you what neither the army nor the people fighting against them will go to heaven,Read the hadith about it(i think most of you will know what i am talking about). Secondly all the leaders are bunch of thieves. “Allah imposes a leader on nation which is one among them and reflects the image of there morality.” So dont freakin complain.

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