Capital Talk - 17 October 07

Imran Khan with Hamid Mir in Capital Talk.

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    Imran Khan at least has the good view on international and domestic politics. He has still long to go to be acceptable for the nation. His view on national issues such as education, Justice and Health is impressive. But currently he is not in a good relationship with establishment that is why he is lagging behind.
    We need more educated politician like Imran and hope with the time Imran khan and people like him will replace the current corrupt political leadership in future.

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    The video shown in the talk show is horrible. How fearlessly Pak Army is killing innocent people in those areas shows the pathetic state of Military regime. Just to please his foreign mentors this shameless rular is commiting the heinous crime. Musharraf: you are disgrace to humanity.

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    Bush is much better than Mush.

    Bush can kill a million people in name of protecting his own citizens, but Mush would kill his own citizens in love of WHAT???

    I thought only Saddam would kidnap, torture and kill his own people, Musharraf is even worse … he does all and also sells his people and proudly mentions in his book.

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    yes please condemn Mush but can we also codemn those people who behead soldiers who refuse to fire on there own people what about them may be we should let America come to Triabl areas and let em carpet bomb the area like they din Afganistan will you be happd
    Tell me if America starts bombing the tribal area would you go and fight

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    These people never started war against Pak soldiers, Musharraf started killing these people and he was the first who bowed down to Bush, just after one call from a third grade officer. And by the way, before that Musharraf was the greatest supporter of Taliban, you can go through his many comments, he regarded them as the Front Line support for Pakistan. He used these people in Kargil and also against conspiracies against elected govt. in Pakistan.
    No one can bombed Pakistan if we have able leader ruling the country. Look at Iran, it is facing the whole West but their steadfast leadership has not shown any sign of fears.

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  6. Amir Hameed Says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
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    @Aaqib,
    You missed the point completely. Soldiers are simply carrying out the orders that they are given by their command. People are condemning the command and not the soldiers. As for beheading of the soldiers, no one has said that they deserved it. But you have to understand the human nature. If you hit someone then you should expect a reaction. Why would America come and carpet bomb our areas? but this regime may even allow US to do that as well.

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    I wish someday Imran got chance to be in power. One may differ with his political point of view but his sincerity for pakistan is without any doubt. Moreoever he always talks with lots of history examples and solid arguments. May God give pakistan more people like imran khan

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    The easiest solution is to disband the Pakistan Armed Forces. This institution is: (a) weak for India; (b) redundant in Afghanistan; and (c) mercenary in Waziristan.

    Let the people of FATA and FANA (including their maliks) exercize their basic right of self-determination. They will become independent one day very soon.

    Forget about talking and blaming America for everything including load shedding in Lahore.

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    Yes people like Imran Khan and praised his courage but at the end, they will vote to MQM or Chaudry Shujaat or Shaikh Rasheed.

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    @ Aqib:

    Too bad there is no Mukti Bahni YET to fight a mercenary army.

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    Very nice Sajjad.
    First of all, for your knowledge only I would like to say that Benazir is much more educated then Imran Khan. She is our only former Priminister who gives lectures in Harvard. She is a lady and still has a personality which is appreciated by all the developed nations. Still I agree to your view point that we should have educated politicians like Imran Khan but do mention Benazir as will, don’t be so mean.
    And now we come to corrupt politicans, what do you know about Imran Khan. How can you say he is not corrupt? Don’t call innocent if he/she has not got the chase yet. Yeah Imran Khan talks really impressive because he is a learned and well educationed person, but say that he is not corrupt and the rest all are corrupt, doesn’t make sence. How can you even compare him with them. Yeah if you compare Nawaz, Benazir, Zia, Ayub, Musharraf so it does make sence, but Imran Khan is like any ordinary person on the street and ofcourse even if you ask me I’ll say that once I become the Priminister I’ll do this and this. Who knows what is in my heart and who I am. It will be a fool who will trust on me. He is like a Major in army, who never get chance to make money illegally so you call him loyal. Transfer the same Major to WAPDA and then say whether he is corrupt or no.
    To be honest I like Imran Khan alot but he is too immature to become a Priminister, he is good for a foreign minister position and if he has guts, he will progress from there. But the problem is he himself is a greedy person.You tell me what sort of politicians does he has in his party. As far as I know about his party they are all like Musharraf’s Parliment. Musharraf wanted to make a Parliment so he could run the government, for this he invited all the corrupt and greedy politicians from all the parties to the extent it was possible. If someone is not corrupt he will be loyal ofcourse this is a fact so why will he/she leave his/her party (will your loyal friend ever leave you). So samewise Imran Khan went to every corner of Pakistan and invited people to his party, to make a setup. And ofcourse those people who had money and wanted to be famous and earn more money got the chance to get into politics. These people are neither influencial in their areas nor that commited. This is the reason that everytime only Imran Khan wins and no one else wins from his party because they are all opportunists, they are only in his party because they want to be famous and want to make money. But Imran Khan himself is a selfish and greedy politican he doesn’t want to struggle, he just wants to become the Priminister as soon as possible. Now doesn’t small hint which I gave you shows his personality.
    If he was that loyal politican and wanted to change this corrupt culture, he should have joined a party, became a foreign minister. And as he is impressive and well learned he would have represented our country in a better way. After this slowly slowly he should have thought of making his own party because he would have proved himself.
    To me he sounds like a immature kid, who has just jumped in the game of mature politicans and is shouting that this one is corrupt and that one and make me the Priminister I will fix everything. If you have a company will you ever make someone a director, if he/she has never even managed 2 staff members in his/her own life, no matter how sweet he/she talks.
    Imran Khan like short cuts but this is not cricket. He must be very honest (may be, not proved yet) but he should not insult the rest of the politicans in a way that he is perfect and they are all theives.
    When Musharraf came Imran had this complex that Musharraf will make him the Priminister, so Imran Khan use to prase him everyday but the day when the Priminister was announced Imran Khan said they are all theives, I was wrong. This is the example of Imran Khan and when he didn’t even knew, how Musharraf runs the government so why was he praising him.Just only because he thought may be I get a chance.
    Remember dont’t trust anyone with his/her sweet talks.
    Imran Khan is a Sheikh Chilli.

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    @ Imran Khan (wannabe)

    In your lengthy unnecessary response addressed to Sajjad, you focused on the comparing the personalities of BB and Imran.

    The problem is of reforming defunct systems of irresponsible, non-representative, and unaccountable institutions–including the Pakistan Army, judiciary, and the services.

    And to talk about governance, the NRO is the most corrupt document in recorded history whereby a politician’s illegally-acquired assets of US $1.5 billion are written off without due process! Hope BB remembers this.

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    Total Formal Education of Benazir Bhutto never went above and beyond Bachelor’s degree

    A-level (equivalent to High School)
    B.A from Radcliffe College USA
    B.A. (Hon)with Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from Lady Margaret Hall (a college) Oxford, UK
    A certificate course in International Law and Diplomacy from UK

    Only thing that makes people of Pakistan think she is extremely well educated is her fluent english.

    We don’t need her fluency in spoken english but we need sincerity to run this country. There are 100 times more educated and competent people in Pakistan who, if given a chance, could run this country very well.

    Political leadership should possess sincere people with broad vision, so that they may provide equal opportunity to all and let the talent come to make the nation strong.

    See the details about corruptions she and her husband have been involved into so far,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto

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  14. shahid kinnare Says:
    October 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
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    Every one is covering BB but Hamid Mir does notwantto dicuss that topic this clearly show much Jung Group hate PPP. Jung group is one of the party responsible in the murder of Z.Bhutto. I wish some one would write a book on Jung Group specially covering its articoracy against PPP.

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    We all should pray for the death of Mushuraf. I cannot control myself when I think if my kids and dear ones are killed in this bombing…

    O’ Allah please help us and put us on right path, aameen.

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    imran khan zindabad

    everyone should join PTI at their website http://www.insaf.org.pk/
    http://www.moveforjustice.org

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    To the wannabe Imran Khan

    She can have all the education in the world. The fact is that she only cares about herself and not the Muslim Ummah. And off course she is “respected” in the West. Anyone can have the “respect”. You just have to polish the shoes of the Western masters. It’s very simple and HUMILIATING! Who cares about that. She (BB) just wants power to loot even more.

    The more education and at the same time being corrupt and evil brings only more misery on her when she will be brought to account by The Almighty Allah.

    The victory belongs to those who dare speak the truth!

    /Saqib

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    Dear Admin

    Capital talk and live with talat is not working , its saying error invalid fee..
    If anyone else can help me….

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    same problem i m facing . first it takes a Long time nd den ERROR “invalid Feed nd bla bla “

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    Can’t see Capital Talk !!!

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  21. khubaibatta@gmail.com Says:
    October 18th, 2007 at 6:26 am
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    @ imran khan

    i think our comments should be sensible and to the point so that we dont waste reader’s precious time.

    As for as bb is concerned very sorry to say she is a shame for this country. for 8 years she absconded her own country and now after getting USA’s blessing she is claiming to serve this country………….
    SHARAM MAGAR HAM KO NAHIN AATI

    capital talk is not working here ……… ?

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    Problem watching this programme, :( something wrong??

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    That is a coool program…

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    aoa

    well done imran khan i salute you brother for speaking the absolute truth. I will say this again please spread the word to family and friends that in these elections they should vote PTI.

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    Imran Khan is impressive in this programme. I wish there was someone to listen to him. The other guy is a minister so we should not have any complaints because he is a ‘ghulam’ too!!

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    No guts No glory!!

    Imran khan has guts…. all other ministers are puftas,,,,

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    This video show that how innocent people are being killed.

    Now that BB is coming back the situation will get worse because she will pursue Washingtons’s agenda.

    But the people of Pakistan will defeat Mushy, BB and all other enemies of Pakistan.

    Well done IK. You are a true patriot.

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    Musharraf is a War Criminal.

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    Imran Khan is such a well versed individual. He knows the History so well.

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    I could not control myself when i saw the documentary showing the innocent children and people wounded dying even they don’t know why they are being slaughtered like people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan, and i have never seen the stupid, shameless and characterless personal like Musharaf, he has ruined the Pakistan to such a level even India has not done that much damage and the pakistan should be surely called Generlistaan and Faujistaan.
    As far as Bibi is concerned she is greedy and intelligent and move according to the situation but her husband Zardaari will be 20 % now as he will raise his fee from 10 %. Her fluent English has attracted our so called political community and i think this is all due to illiteracy ” jahalaat” that lot of so called marad hazraat are following the lady,
    The solution is not the leader or use of power or the army or the court or the dollars but if we follow the basic principles of our religion Islam for whom the country was made, everything will be allright. People will have the rulers according to their deeds so this is the root cause and the combined sins are not usually forgiven.
    should we give the vote to the same personals who supported the army regime
    should we vote for the anti Islamic powers
    should we vote for the corrupt politicians
    should we vote for the individuals who supported Baluchistan operation
    should we vote for the munaafaq persons like Fazal ul Rahmann and party who are more dangerous than the enemies
    should we are not accounted for the innocent deaths all over in Pakistan
    should we vote the people like Ejaz-ul-Haq the remainings of so called Islamic Dictator who supported Lal Masjid
    should we vote for Shiekh Rasheed who has given full support to Aunty Shamim

    By the way what army has given to Pakistan despite more than 60 % of the budget spent over them, if we look at the 60 years of Pakistan, in the officer’s offices they usually do property and car dealing, wrong calls, harassment, and many other evils(not all but majority usually do it now-a-days), we don’t need this army any more and there should be compulsory training for every citizen to get the Identity like in Iran and many other countries

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    1. Talks have gone on, were going on, are going on and will go on.

    2. No one, not Musharraf nor anyone gets up in the morning and says ” it is a nice day to go and kill some innocent men, women and children to please America.

    3.A simplistic, empty headed discussion by the dumb, of the dumb and for the dumb.

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    only person who makes sense and speaks truth.

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    imran khan (wannabe)

    i want to say jus one thing that your bb severly wanted to marry Imran Khan if it would be happend that you were not critising of your (benoii) Imran Khan.

    hahahahahahah

    only one person who is the real man.

    Imran Khan zindabad Pakistan paindabad.

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    I believe that if any one want real in the country, political, judicial and social, he must support Imran Khan and his team.

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    @ imran khan

    I hope this message reaches you. I dont know whats the basis of your information about BB’s educational superiority and her western respected image but your arguments are clearly stupid to say theleast.

    Ok If I accept your argument that BB is respected in the west , is that a good enough reason to call her a top politician. I hope you know that salman rushdi maloon was given the title of knighthood by the Queen recently and of course you would know if you have any generalk knowledge that he is a respected novel laureate in west .I am pretty sure he would be giving more lectures than BB in big universitiesand can speak better english than our beloved BB. But would you consider him a well educated person would you consider him an educated person at all? why shouldn’t we make him the head of PPP and the leader of pakistan?

    Education my friend is a deception as far as our politicians are concerned. All our waderas and industrialist rulers have educated their kids from top notch universities in the world but have you noticed any changes in pakistani politics since the arrival of these so called well educated lot. of course not. These people only protect their own benefits at every cost and make sure they rule this poor nation by keeping them uneducated generation after generation.

    We dont need just the education and someone who can speak english fluently in public. We need honest sincere people. I obviously dont know if Imran khan has been corrupt or not or if he has made any assets during present regimen but I can certainly say with assurity that whenever I listen to him anywhere my heart apeaks up that this is the man we want as our leader and this is the youth Quaid and Iqbal had dreamed about.
    Dont kill your hope my friends! There is still some light at the end of tunnel.

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    Khan Jee … Tussi great hooo …..

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    Given the benefit of doubt and all of Imran Khan’s strengths mentioned ad nauseum by his jiyalas the fact remains that the Tehrik e Insaaf remains a man show.

    Does anyone know their agenda or can anyone name anyone else in the party and how they add value to the betterment of Pakistan ?

    It is all about Imran Khan and his ego. It is as simple as that.

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    All those funny jokers, who have left comments for me.I just wanna ask you one thing that has Imran Khan yet proven myself even once. One of my dear friend said Imran Khan is better than those ministers, first of all why are you comparing him with miniters, he is never been a minister nor anything else. Listen I again say that he is a nice politician but not of the level where he is trying to be. And secondly anyone who is a well spoken can say that when I come into power I’ll do this and that. And please answer me on this that when Musharraf came why was Imran supporting him so much and all of a sudden when the parliment was announced he started saying Musharraf if wrong and started talking against him.
    And Mr khubaibatta@gmail.com, mind you f*** language, you are not one to say that whether my comments are sensible or no, I was just trying to express my view point.

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    hold on guys, just to refresh your memory, here is something from 1996

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=a0olJuQBJHg

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