Audio MP3 - Full Coverage of Mush Law
Everyone with low bandwidth connections in Pakistan and elsewhere can now have full coverage of Emergency Plus in Pakistan in audio format.
This includes latest analysis of various hosts from Geo and ARY, including Dr. Shahid Masood and Kashif Abbasi. Download all MP3s from here: http://pkpolitics.com/audio/index.php?dir=emergency - Admin
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thats nice many thx for this link i have inform my friends in pakistan about this link…they are very happy because now they can have lattest information from this place…
great work Admin.. this is really a great work u doing.
I appreciate this. Now everyone in Pakistan can know whats going on.
this is really nice .. I hope we can again listen to our fav host from TV channels … on the whole by this action truth will prevail…
keep it up
great work admin. at a time when minds are jammed and hearts are crying with grief and anger, u have come up with a great ingenious methods to prepare ur country’s youth. If there ever will be any definition of jihad Iam sure this will be a true example.
fight for truth…this is what jihad is
bravo my friend…well done
Dear BRO Admin, Thank you so much for such a wonderfull services for all pakistani peoples around the globe .
in Balochi SHAMAY BAZ BAZ MEHARBANI
“I am still a judge,” says Bhagwandas. Vows to go to the court tomorrow.
Read the whole BBC article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071104_rana_bhagwan_ra.shtml
guys u can listen to live aduio from geo too…they did a gr8 job for puttin live audio
http://65.36.215.69/
Those who live in the US are requested to write to Senators. Make one or two good paragraphs, tell them that Musharraf is playing double game and he supports extremists through secret channels to get US aid. You may copy and paste those paragraphs to as many senators as you like.
To assure those who might be frightened to write (it is quite normal for Pakistanis), I have written to many world leaders and local and International bodies and no agency follows you. They are not after the people who express themselves through their writings.
For their contact information and email addresses, please visit:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Great Bhagwandas I salute you - even though you are a Hindu but you are far higher in respect from the whole Pakistani nation than those bayzamir Musalman judges who sold their conscience and took oath.
As Muslims we should look into ourselves what type of people are we.
Shame on Musharraf and his touts.
There is no doubt that Musharraf is playing double game - he is the one who has been encouraging these extremists whether they were Lal Masjid or Swat or others and he is cheating the West also - he cannot be trusted under any circumstances
Well said chussain!
Please read this article - published in Urdu in Nawa-i-Waqt by Aftab Iqbal. It is also quite thought provoking although I disagree with his assertions because his is that of defeatist attitude but certainly it also reflects pragmatism
http://nawaiwaqt.com.pk/urdu/daily/nov-2007/05/columns3.php
please watch Geo tv bulletin and audio news at
http://65.36.215.69/
u can also watch geo at pakistanvision.com
just click on live stream 1 or 2 in the left sidebar
According to Geo News, MMA will decide its future strategy, in view of the prevailing emergency situation, in its November 8th Supreme Coucil meeting. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!! If MMA was really worried then it would not wait until the 8th and act immediately. But what can one say about Fazlu, the man with many faces who can change colours more swiftly than a Chameleon. He is one of the biggest SOBs who is out there to help Mush.
A LOOK AT RIGHTS SUSPENDED IN PAKISTAN
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[Source: Associated Press Sun Nov 4, 2:03 PM ET]
A look at some of the restrictions and suspended rights in the state of emergency declared by Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf:
• Protection of life and liberty.
• The right to free movement.
• The right of detainees to be informed of their offense and given access to lawyers.
• Protection of property rights.
• The right to assemble in public.
• The right to free speech.
• Equal rights for all citizens before law and equal legal protection.
• Media coverage of suicide bombings and militant activity is curtailed by new rules. Broadcasters also face a three-year jail term if they “ridicule” members of the government or armed forces.
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Seriously guys will this regiem change? I just went to a desi resturant in Chicago apparently everyone their was talking about how corrupt both BIBI and Nawaz were no one understands that the worst democracy is better then the best Fauji rule and these are the kind of folks in Pakistan i think, i am so sad at this whole incident
God bless Pakistan
God rid us of these fauji Amir and hopefully we can punish these amir once they leave.
From the News (Jang).
Ousted judges to preside over courts today
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By Shakeel Anjum
ISLAMABAD: Deposed judges of the Supreme Court and Sindh High Court would go to their offices and preside over their respective courts today (Monday), sources close to these judges told The News.
A meeting to discuss the future strategy was held at the residence of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry on Monday, the sources said, adding, most of the deposed judges including Justice Bhagwandas and Justice Javed Iqbal attended.
The sources said the meeting reviewed the constitutional crisis after imposition of emergency in the country and legal position of the “sacked� judges. The judges at the meeting chaired by the CJ averred that they were still active and could continue court work. The judges decided to go to the Supreme Court as routine to attend their offices, the sources concluded.
Online/NNI add: In Karachi, the ousted Chief Justice of Sindh High Court Justice Sabihuddin Ahmed said that judges who refused to take oath under the Provincial Constitution Order will go to duty today (Monday).
BBC quoted Justice Sabihuddin Ahmed as saying that the judges will perform their duties as of routine. Separately talking to reporters Justice Sabihuddin said he and his colleague judges have not received any notification of removal from services and he would turn on their duty along with his twenty-three colleagues and conduct hearings of the cases as usual.
He, however, said that he could not say anything whether or not the police will arrest him on Monday while going to office. Justice Sabihuddin said he received a verdict of the Supreme Court on Saturday night through fax. According to the unanimous decision of seven judges of the apex court, he said, no judge will take oath under PCO.
Appointment of any judge and chief justice of High Courts and Supreme Court under PCO will be declared unconstitutional and illegal, Justice Sabihuddin maintained. No contact has been made with the government so far, he disclosed.
He said it has come to the notice that some judges were convened in Governor House but no opinion had been sought from them. The personnel of security forces are taking government vehicles and guards back by saying that he is not chief justice of Sindh High Court, he told the BBC.
Meanwhile, former President Supreme Court Bar Association Munir A Malik advocate while talking to journalists said after the imposition of PCO, all the constitutional judges assembled at the residence of a judge of Sindh High Court and took a mutual decision that as the Supreme Court has described the PCO as unconstitutional, the courts would continue to perform their duties as per the constitution and all the judges would go to the courts on Monday. Meanwhile, the Sindh High Court Bar Association has announced that no lawyer will attend the courts of those judges who took oath under the PCO.
Att All My Country Man. All those Judge who took oath under “PCO” we will call them
PCOJustice Mr.xyz.
Guys I am diabetic bcz of My country situation.Pl pray for our country, God bless and give some sense to our Army. AMIN
@ Abdul Basit
Dont worry brother, we are with you. The truth will win in the end.
We must continue to support the CJ and Politicians like Javed Hashmi, Aitizaz Ahsan and Imran Khan. These people are our real leaders.
Dont give up hope. We must ask ALLAH for his help and mercy and as HE has promised that if we are steadfast HE will help.
CJ was standing up for poor people and was giving them Justice.ALLAH (SWT) will make him victorious inshallah.
One makes you think NS and SS are exiled. IK, Aitizaz Ahsan, Javed Hashmi are in Jail.
CJ is house arrested.
Only BB and Fazlu are roaming free. This is the time for both of them to show solidarity and unify the oppostion. Bring out the people and protest.
One the oppostion is unified the Generals and his cronies will be gone a very short time. Inshallah.
Mush has destroyed the image of the Pak Army and it is a golden chance for gen Kiyani to restore this image by arresting Mush, tied him in front of President house along with PMLQ leadership and invite all Pakis to come and spit at their faces. I think its worthwhile to take a flight from Australia, spit at their faces and come back. Act Gen Kiyani now otherwise people will not forget you either.
@m ilyas khan
very rightly said..
you represnt the sentiments of all pakistani……
i want to add that busharraf deserves to be tortured to extreme extent before execution…
Mush, the Constitution Breaker and People’s rights usurper, have traded 25 taliban prisoners for exchange of 200 Army Heejras. He is blaming the CJ that SC released 61 prisoners… Now people can judge themselves. Shame on us. I salute the Judges who have decried the illegal PCO Version 2007, All officers both Civilian and Military are bound to obey the Supreme Court verdict and no body should follow the order of Mush the Usurper.
It seem that all news agancies in Pakistan are repeating the news that means as usall we will have to have news through SMS or BBC or All India. Please keep on post on this site so people can know as much as possible.
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@ Shahid Kinnare
I think media is under pressure. I looked at Jang’s editorial and it was full of irrelevant columns with main columnists missing.
While their channel is asking for suggestions on how to improve media behaviour. It is sad to see that our media is not playing its role.
It is only Imran Khan who has shown full condemnation. BB comes second and she seems a bit careful. Still she is very courageous given the situation. Poor NS has no option. He is under arrest in Saudi Arabia (definition of arrest includes take away right to move freely).
To be honest I think our politicians have again shown that educated lawyers will lead us again. I have full confidence in Aitzaz and Justice Iftihar. People are waiting for their call.
Write to Australian MPs (those who live in Australia)
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Dear Admin,
We really appreciate your very hard work to give us latest news what’s happing in pakistan,no doubt Pakistan is under musharraf Law.Long live Pakistan,Oh Allah save our beloved country from this mad person(Musharraf)Ameen.
Please send email to all the mediaperson’s they need our moral support,
Talat Hussain : live.talat@aaj.tv
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if any know other emails please post here.
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Honestly, I wish all of you luck since it is heart warming the sincerity all of you exhibit. It truly is commendable :)but lets not be so hasty and lets see how things play out. I would’nt like any of us eating humble pie if certain political people allign themselves with him. We expats know how hard it is to balance work and family and loyalties out of Pakistan for people who place our loyalty at minimal value. Lets wait for some time and see how active political forces in pakistan behave before we “with nothing to gain and everything to loose” put our convinctions to the test. (Call me a loser;) however I tend to think that people like us will be used and discarded very soon by the same political forces we champion!
I would like to ask the traitor SC registrar who claims “No order against PCO” (from Dawn.comcom/2007/11/05/top7.htm), how come the traitor CJ “over-rules order on annulling” the very same order(ibnlive.com/news/new-pak-cj-overrules-order-on-annulling-emergency/51725-2.html)?
Geo Audio link seems not to be working anymore (atleast from Lahore)
Many people are not going to like what I will say here:
1- BB said that we are negotiating with Mush to avoid Martial Law. Have we waited for couple of weeks, we would have a better scenario.
2- After having conversations with political workers, I think there will be not a huge agitation unless something changes drastically in next 24 hours.
3- Rather than considering above two comments as demoralizing. We must consider that the ordinary people of Pakistan do not get excited by rule of law and constitution as we all are guilty of depriving them of there rights. The true hard working Pakistanis such as driver, cook, butler, gardener, and sweeper are negated their rights by the religious elite, liberal elite, military, political leadership, police, army, and regime. If we want to earn their trust, we must change our habits of exploiting the weak. We all do that.
Still if BB & NS can aggressively agree to bring people in the streets, we can muster enough pressure to force regime. Otherwise, we’ll dance like monkeys and then accept new realities.
nota yes audio link is not working
(in Rawalpindi)
Its now or never situation. I cannot say anything more.
Everyone in Pakistan:
In case Tv’s are still out, you can watch GEO for free on Paktv.net, just go to paktv.net-> Live TV -> Watch Geo For Free
Dears all I think we can do more then oppositon and all, lets make a date of Protest in front of UNO main office Geneva.
Do you all Agree??
1- Aaj tv is available through jump tv web site.
2- http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071104_soldiers_released_fz.shtml
I am amazed if Supreme Court is guilty of freeing terrorists then what about these 25 terrorists including a convicted criminal are released now.
Go figure……….
Admin,
its the worst situation in pakistan.
we r going back to 1958…
all the media is banned ..
only option left is PTV…
so your site is the only resource through which we can be updated and get our fandamental right to be known …
otherwise all fundamental rights are being supressed by our dictator.
God Bless all Of Us..
our posts are not going through now ?
I received a call from Pakistan just a while ago..There is a rumor that Musharaf is arrested…..
Aaj reports:
1- Hundreds of lawyers were arrested by the police in Lahore high court premises.
2- Dictator meets with diplomats of developed nations to justify his actions.
3- KSE index has plummeted 633+ points already.
4- BB is due in Islamabad today and expected to meet Mush.
AAJ TV, Just in:
The FIR has been registered in Bahadurabad police station as PPP & BB a complainant. The government had refused it earlier. It will be tough for three nominated people.
Police clash with anti-Musharraf lawyers
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http://news.google.com.pk/news?hl=en&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1122699510
Our tinpot General came on television and told a balatant lie , that the Supreme court was helping terrorists and releasing them. The two so-called judges Nawaz Abbasi and Javaid Butter were the hearing the case of Lal Masjid on a Suo Moto notice of Nawaz Abbasi. Both of these Judges have taken oath under PCO. This was great conspiracy against the upright judges of the supreme court. General is trying to fool US and Western countries by telling them that he is fighting their war on terror. He is actually supporting the terrorists. How rediculous it is to say that “Justice Rana Bhagwan Das” a non-muslim judge was supporting islamic terrorist.
We must understand that all the corrupt and judges who had links with those terrorist have taken oath under PCO.
BREAKING NEWS: General Musharraf is under house arrest. The report is not yet confirmed.
It’s 2:45 a.m. my local time. The nation is dead. No one cares about Martial Law or democracy. Spoke to 100+ active political workers of PML(N) & PPP in Punjab. They are least bothered.
Good Luck guys…………nothing has changed.
@ pejamistri
I pray that your news is correct. I have lost hope in …….
rumours of military coup against musharraf - arab world press
wish it is true!
we are hearing the news of musharraf housr arrest. can any body give any credible reference or it is just a rumor ?
I pray it to be true
All news channels are running denial statements by Mush. Mazhar Abbas says the news is untrue.
Musharraf denies rumours he is under house arrest
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-30336920071105
AAJ reports:
1- Mush denies his arrest and detention.
2- Stock market is down by 700 points.
just talked to my uncle who is Colonel in army, he sort of confirmed this rumor that Musharraf is under house arrest. He said not to tell any body as army does not want to make this news a public knowledge
Actually there was a power struggle going on in President House. Some generals have revolted aganist Mush. Lets see kay kia hota hey.
Can someone else confirm this news of the power struggle.
There is only way to deny this news. Musharraf needs to come on live TV and deny it. Then there will be no doubts.
If I am in his place I’d come on live tv to reassure everyone.
i live in islamabad and we are seeing lot of military movment, more then the saturday and sunday.
I bet something is happening.
@ Kruman
I am trying to confirm the news. However, at this point all indication are there is no counter coup. I hope that’s not true.
Azhar,
Please ask your uncle to jump in and throw a punch (on my behalf)
PPP supporters can contact their local elected leaders to get their confirmation of Mush arrest. Here’s contact info:
http://ppp.org.pk/Party/MNAs.htm
army is every where in islamabad, I am pretty sure something is happening.
I hope there is a Coup. I hope Gen. Kiani get rid of this **&*((*&* and hangs him up side down from a Pole in Islamabad. And keep him there for good 5 months. Where all Pakistani’s can come and stone this Satan.
i called a PPP MNA Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, he is confirming the revolt news but he does not have much details.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071105_reporters_log05_si.shtml
Mush is a smart man. The only way to quell these rumors is to appear on live TV. I am not convinced that everything is good.
The statements fronm western capitals and official earlier today, in effect, pulled out the rug from under his feet.
Just read these reports:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2205389,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2205300,00.html
Even today he put down the US and British ambassadors, refusing to give a schedule for elections and for doffing his uniform.
Eveything may be fine, but Mush is standing on thin ice.
Islamabad is rife with rumors of a coup though.
If it is true, which I hope it is. I want to tell Kayani, that we dont want another Yahyah. You do this and go back to Baracks, and take mush with you.
Has any one noticed that Geo is not really giving any more news now. Something’s fishy.
What’s Next after Emergency
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Well some time ago I said(some other people said that too) overhere that after the elections there would be tripod style of power setup b/w mushy, bb, and nawaz sharif that would be supported by the west, as US needs this stanility for atleast 2/3 years. In an address hillary clinton mentioned in the summer this year that for leaving iraq we would atleast need a year or two, so during that time she would need stability elsewhere including afghanistan. Therefore US beleived this arrangement with mushy at the top would work by some US manipulation.
Now the situation in pakistan has lost all its predictability. Its too unpredictable.
There are many solutions to this problem. Some are radical, some are stupid, some show cowardice….well what the heck its pakistan.
1.
Nawaz sharif and BB cometogether. Make some sort of arrangement to go ahead with elections and press on having elections on time. They fight the elections in such a way that they dont compete directly against eachother. By preplanned arrangement one of them would get the government for next 5 years. After elections they would oust the chief by popular majority thus abolishing emergency in pakistan. In this case i presume the elections were held in emergency conditions. PML-Q in this situation has lost it all and so has musharraf. Kiani takes over as the chief after some sort of arrangement or military coup. Still very complicated solution. In this case the west thinks the Mush-BB deal isnt feasible. And it tries to find new allies for BB, and starts approaching the sharif bros via the saudis. US would want the sharifs to quell the fundos by taking over their votebank and be in power in nwfp and punjab and would want benazir to be in power in sindh.
2. Everybody rises up now, the judiciary, the politicians and the people and put so much pressure on mushy that he has to step down - even his generals ask him to step down. Thus he comes on the tv like ayub khan did and apologizes for the emergency and steps down as chief and holds elections under new caretaker government. But I think this wont happen probably. Because this time people wont come out as the CJ wont be there to be part of rallies. So i dont know i people have the will to march to Justice Enclave in islamabad to get him out of his house. Else he escapes by magic.
3. US tries to stick to musharraf support and asks BB to stick the plan as well by indirectly supporting this emergency by allowing the pco to be passed by the current assembly. Overthere is again a chance for rallies and protests but I think they would not be useful enough as this time the judge wont be around.But in this situation there would be support from the west for musharraf’s emergency - they would be sorry or disappointed about it. But they would be content with it in the end. And would think that the BB-Mush deal is still possible.
Conclusion:
I myself support the 1st case and thats why i put it first. I would be worried if 2 is true and really shocked if 3 happens because it would make mushy more spoiled and blind to the blunders he is doing.
Let’s hope that the rumor is true.. I am getting excited. There are three reasons for my excitement.
1. The people who are denying this news are up until now Tariq Azeem and Rashid Quershi. Both of them are civillians. Usually such a high profile rumor will be denied immediatey by the DG ISPR. DG ISPR is supposed to come on television immediately. As far as I know about the so-called descipline in Pakistan Army, DG ISPR is supposed to be the first one to deny any rumor against his COAS.
2. General has not appeared on television since this news broke. This was important as in order to keep the rank and file in the army calm, he was suppose to make a public appearance.
3. General is not in the army house instead he is in the President house in Islamabad.
So many people I know are under arrest. One friend of mine called me from Lahore High Court library and he was whispering because he wanted to do something srious before getting arrested.
A Barrister friend called me from Karachi about Mush House arrest. I pray that this becomes reality soon!!
All those Mush & MQM supporters, your days are numbered. Stop spamming this website. You had your corruption time, we will get back to you very soon.
Guys, I have just talked to my brother in law in Islamabad and according to him there is an unusual movement of army on the streets and some thing is cooking. I wish the final dish will be our favorite…Mush Kabab and Mush Dum Pukh
hey illyas
please add mush tikka to the menu.
come on gen. kiyani, prove you are a true soldier of pakistan.
I don’t know, but according to Reuters mush house arrest is a rumor.
please sign the online petition;
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/we-oppose-emergency-in-pakistan.html
If Gen Musharraf can break teh consitution why cannot Gen Kiyani. We all request him to please step in and get rid of this mad man, hold fair and free elections and restore the image of the army and country.
It has been widely said and even in PCO its mentioned that teh Supreme Court released those 61 terrorists and they are roaming free. But who freed them - PCO Justice Faqir Muhammad Khokar and PCO Justice Abassi
Plus BBC has reported that Musharraf has released 25 Taliban in exchange of 250 army personnel in Swat.
Suo moto action regarding Lal Masjid was also taken by teh Justice Abassi and Justice Khokhar and both have taken oath.
Musharraf has lied to Pakistani nation and lied to Western Media and Western countries. He is playing double game with the west. Why is not a single person from religioius parties of JUI which has links with extremists Taliban been arrested and why there is only mild condemnation.
PPP has decided to condemn the PCO but not agitate against it.
Such are the double standards in this countries and I am ashmed being a Pakistani today that we have now stooped so low.
Let the West know that now because there is no rule of Law in Pakistan so a field for extremists have been left open and now Pakistan is going to worse than Iraq because Pakistan people would turn against army itself.
Lets see what your intelligence agencies do now.
Only General Kiyani can save Pakistan by removing Gen Musharraf and dissolving these so called puppet National Assembly and Provincial Assembly. I would request all those who have in contacts in Army through whatever mean plead and request Gen Kiyani to take action - and he has justification to do so because teh Supreme Court has declared PCO illegal. So we request Gen Kiyani to step in and save Pakistan and Pakistan army if he is a man of conscience and he is a Muslim and true Pakistani.
ppl
jang says its a rumour that mush is under house arrest
@chussain,
Let me add this. Gen. Kiyani should not take over the country. His only job should be to overthrough the General , reinstate CJ and the judges. Ask Senate chairman to take over as president. He must not talk to any politician. He must not even leave his office in Army house and should salute president. It should be exactly as written in 1973 constitution.
If he does anything more than that, then let me tell you he is no better than General Musharraf.
The general secretary of PPPP has said that he can not confirm the strong rumors of Mush’s house arrest. He can not confirm the situation at this point but trying to assess the situation. This was stated to me in our conversation. He was in Islamabad.
Anybody knows if there is any deniel from the ISPR?
i agree pejamistri
From Dawn Website ppl
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No Truth in Army command change: DG ISPR
By Mateen Haider
Islamabad. November 4, 2007: The Director General Inter Services Public Relations and Military Spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad has denied that top command of the Pakistan Army has been changed and Vice Chief of Army staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani has taken over as new commander. Arshad was asked to comment about rumour which gripped the country that as a result of the counter-coup, General Pervez Musharraf has been removed and General Kayani taken over as next chief. “There is no such thing, these are just rumours� Arshad told dawn News. Earlier, a strong rumour gripped the country that Chief of Army Staff General Pervez Musharraf had been replaced by Vice chief of Army staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani and that there was troops movement around Aiwan-e-Sadr. (Posted @ 14:15 PST)
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Just read this , the police has taken over jang karachi. They have stopped them to publish the supplement.
If BB claims that 3 million people came out for her, Nawaz sharif also expected over million, Qazi always talked about million march…
Then why not all political parties call their million supporter? I am sure Rouge Army will not stand one day!! but all parties are just watching and making comments that I have grown up listening.
160 million people country and still believe an other General as a man to take us out of this. time to rethink!!!
where did u read this peja
any other details? what supplement were they printing?
@farhan,
that’s a bad news. I was hoping against hope.
@ahmed
i agree bro. and i agree with sheikh rasheed on this as well. on numerous occassions he has said that the day 1 million ppl come out against the govt. we’ll have no choice but to go home. no army can stand against 1 million countrymen.
This is from “Omar Querishi” on pakistaniat.com
“BTW the police has arrived at Jang’s printing press in Sultanabad in Karachi – is preventing the management from taking out a supplement of its Urdu evening paper, Awam – was in a meeting when this was being discussed
Omar R. Quraishi
Op-ed pages editor
The News
92-21-2271294
92-(0)333-3021345″
@pejamistri
keep the spirits high bro
we shld also condemn pppp along with busharraf……pppp is also playing games….bb was looking so happy after so many days when emergency was announced….reason is that her NRO was going to be cancelled but now it wouldnt be cancelled…..i wonder if emergency was part of deal with pppp ..????
@ imran malik
BB is one of the most currupt ppl in our country. i dont believe for a second she left pak ‘to meet her family’. sheikh rasheed in his interview after she left said to kashif abassi that she actually stayed a day over ‘according to the deal’.
@farhan
yes and durrani was also saying before she came that she will be moving back and forth (Aati jaati rehey gi)
BB is playing the role of an astute politician which we needed in absence of Nawabzada. She is trying to convince Military to go to barracks without any bloodshed. The emotional people can not understand the logic of her comments. Even if she is playing the games, she’s the first one to call this act as Martial Law and unacceptable.
By the way, whatever she is doing NS is with her.
I think even if the rumours are not true but they have done the job what they are supposed to have done - they have created mistrust between the army command and now Musharraf would not trust his own generals. This is called psychlogical warfare and it should go on. Musharraf has made the biggest mistake of his life - at least before he would hear everything from the media and now because he has shut down that and he has shut down Supreme Court - so now he has made himself vulnerable to extraconsitutional steps which others can also take against him.
I think these rumours would give ideas to the army command and the more strong these rumours would be and the more uncertainity it would be - Gen Kiyani would be compelled to step in and remove this mad man.
I agree with my colleague above that Mian Muhammd Sumorro Chairman Senate should take over as President and Gen Kiyani as Chief of Army Staff because in any case the tenure of Musharraf as Army Chief is going to end on Nov 14.
So Gen Kiyani has all the reason to step in and finsih this once for all.
@ Raja
you are entitled to your opinion my friend. i respectfully disagree.
@chussain,
Can not agree more. The rumor of change of command in Army is not a joke. This is considered most serious matter in the army. I still hope something is cooking within. The general is most vulnerable at this time.
@ farhan
I respect your opinion as well.
although my heart says gen. kiyani should overthrow mush. my mind says these guys are very strict about their chains of command. i doubt gen. kiyani would do something like this. he has been with musharraf long enough to go against him.
but i hope he does.
Hi!
I just want some technical help from someone. I live on my university’s campus therefore I’m using the LAN provided by uni. I think i need to make some changes in the proxy setting or something because i’m unable to watch any live streaming.
If someone knows anything regarding this please let me know. Thanks.
@ fatima
whats the error u r getting?
The users of Pakistan politics can see geo live using this links
http://www.pakistanvision.com/playLive.php?pid=6
It works sometime good some time bad any way it is better than nothing.
Since Mush consulted all chiefs, vice chief, corp comd. etc. so only one theory from Mr. nayyar Zaidi (Washington) supports such rumor, who said once to Dr. Shahid Masood that all supporters first ensure their support and as soon that action is taken (martial law) they will withdraw by saying that situation has worsen and they no longer can support.
I guess (although it has been denied for now) that any such counter action will also take away some corp comd. & other chiefs as well. other wise…
@ raja
if only our politicians show such respect for one n other. pakistan will be the greatest nation on face of this earth
hey farhan you’ve been my good luck..i just clicked on geo audio news again to copy the error message..and it started working by itself..haha…THANKS!
BREAKINGGGGGGG NEWSSSS: Gunfire broke out near presidency..From reliable sources waiting for more details
@Kami,
Waiting for details………………..
nothing on geo news though..
@kami
hawaaaai fire ?????
i think bullets missed the monster yet again
How far is this true my brothers..Do any media person has arrived on the scene.
We have heard for over 60 years , bloodless coups in Pakistan, we have heard Army descipline in Pakistan, We have heard chain of command in Army.
Let’s assume no such thing, this coup could be the first bloody coup , like coup happens all over the world. This could be the real coup detat.
I am praying………
I will request, please no rumours, only confirm reports. Rumours will harm the country
i dont see monster in power in 2008///
i strongly believe he wouldnt survive november
@Iffee
How can these rumors harm the country. Whatever harm could be done has already been done. Come out of sleep, Pakistan is burning and you believe these rumors can do any more harm.
These rumors are giving sort of light at the end of tunnel.
@ fatima
thats a first. normally i have to work hard troubleshooting probs for hours.
glad it worked out for you.
massive military people popping in Islamabad..
@pejamistri
i second bro.
no chain of command this time gen. kiyani. overtrhow mush. salute interim resident. protect n serve the nation.
@ kami
keep updating us bro. whats ur source? are u in isb?
@kami
Yaar please give your source for the news, even if its your chaprasi
People are upset! everyone want confirm news
Qazi and liaqat baloch also house arrested…
only maulana fazal and pppp members are out free ….this tells us again that whom fazal and pppp are with
i am constantly watching geo. nothing there
currently kamran khan interviewing justice sardar muhammad raza khan. he refused to take oath under PCO.
@ Kami
have u informed any media person about the developments in Islamabad.Might be thee is any how can reveal the story to the media.as far as in current situation no breaking news from any media source..only reuter has put it on net..
geo ticker: “meri nazar bandi ki khabar intahai darje ka mazaq hai” - pervez musharraf
we love it mush. n we hope this joke soon turns into reality.
Sheik Rasheed has been arrested from Islamabad.. some negosiations are going on in presedency
@kami
SOURCE?!
Kamran Khan interview with Justice Sardar Raza Khan and Justice Bhagwan Das is 2-3 hours old. Geo is repeating those interviews.
The only breaking news on geo:
geo ticker: no truth in musharraf house arrest rumours - DG ISPR gen. rashid
@kami
yaar kyun jhoooti khushi detey ho…….false hopes can be emotionally disturbing some times…
Indian Army on high alert along the border…
@farhan,
I have not seen any ticker with DG ISPR. Rashid Quarashi is not DG ISPR he has been retired and currently General’s personal assitant. I won’t believe in him or any other civilian. Only one source I found on internet which claims DG ISPR is dawn news. This is again the journalist “Mateen Haider” whom DG ISPR has spoken to. I am hoping that this might be a disinformation. I am still little bit excited as up until now:
1. DG ISPR has not come on television to deny these rumors.
2. Source of all the international media is either Rashid Querashi or Tariq Azeem both of them are actualy civilians..
pkpolitics visitor kami arrested and detained
i just called karachi this news in public there that musho has been arrested . guys just pray this present is true .
GEO is currently in a mess… they seem to be excited like me.. making so many mistakes just heard funny things in the background
@ pejamistri
i did read the ticker on geo when justice bhagwan das was being interviewed by kamran khan. it clearly said ISPR at the end denying the rumour
Announcement: All of you want to see mush down..Start spreading rumors about him.. this is the best time.. “Girti hoi dewar ko Aik dhaka aur do” use cell phones, emails, faxes or whatever medium u have.. call news channels this is the TIMEEEEEE
Confirmed news only on
http://www.newspk.com/index.php
pkpolitics visitor kami just released after he gave a good suggestion.
Sorry I thought you mentioned Gen Rashid , currently DG ISPR is Wahid Arshad…
Ok.. in any case I won’t get too excited…
Let’s see what comes out…
@ pejamistri
i too hope these rumours come true bro.
Irresponsibility will make this forum distrustful. I hope every one to become responsible member. It is your right to comment on the situation and express your views but no rumors please.
Long Live Pakistan..Long Live pkpolitics.com
they were just talking about these kind of rumors on geo :p
@iffee
Sorry..It was my suggestion coz i was so excited.anyways sorry from myside as i don’t want to convert this really good forum into joke..long live pkpolitics.com
Now one can watch dawn TV online from their website. Check http://www.dawn.com. However, it is not working for me. Do you have any ideas that why it is so???
if there is an iota of truth in these rumors. there is hope. all we need is just a small group in military to revolt. n it’ll be a snowball effect.
@Iffee,
Sorry I would disagree again, this is not PTV or pakistan.gov.pk , we are here to discuss rumors, rumors are part of current situation and we need to discuss this. Every person has it’s own definition of responsibility, according to General , even our CJ and 11 other judges were itresponsible :). Please don’t take it personal however I would say avoid using terms like “responsible member” , “harm to the country” , all such terms smell like coming out of General’s mouth.
@fatima
what??? explain plz
I dont knw if sumbody noticed it or no but Geo has been realy polite for quite sumtime now and they have removed Dr.Shahid from anchoring too….and installed a pro government guy like kamran….who is tryin his best not to say anythin anti government…infact he is asking stupid questions from the judges….anywayz…i think all this is coz geo is not getting any ads at all….people dint notice it….but they are not recieving any ads at all…so no ad no money!!…..they r bowin down to pressure basically!!
There was a news on Ibnlive…let check this..
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/musharraf-under-house-arrest-rumours-grip-pak/51757-2.htm
Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the specified protocol is not supported. If you typed a URL in the Open URL dialog box, try using a different transport protocol (for example, “http:” or “rtsp:”).
this error coming on the dawn tv site!
@ kami
geo is just telecasting some prog by name MANDI something :p and they were saying coz of such rumours stock marketers were really confused and prices went down or something…and now they were speaking against these people who spread rumours!
@Fatima
It seems to me that live coverage is not available right now as the error points to something which means server don’t allow you to access this file. Do you know if anyone else is able to view the link?
Ok, if anyone wants this crucial juncture to make fun, should not listen at all to good and just,I wish Better watch a funny movie on TV.
I dont knw if sumbody noticed it or no but Geo has been realy polite for quite sumtime now and they have removed Dr.Shahid from anchoring too….and installed a pro government guy like kamran….who is tryin his best not to say anythin anti government…infact he is asking stupid questions from the judges….anywayz…i think all this is coz geo is not getting any ads at all….people dint notice it….but they are not recieving any ads at all…so no ad no money!!…..they r bowin down to pressure …basically!!
@pejamistri
Fine, discuss rumors, but at least do not knowingly create new ones from this forum.
@Iffee
Please accept my sincere apologies. If my comments were not appropriate…
I do respect your opinion.
@ AJ
we haven’t created any rumour my friend. we are merely discussing them.
@ Pakistani
shahid masood is off probably coz he was on tv for the whole day and probably needed some rest!
@pakistani
this is called martial law!! do notice todays’ columns in newspapers as well.
Police beat lawyers. These laywers are true soldiers.
forgot link
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/51744/pakistan-police-beat-lawyers–reporters-blog.html
Fact is that nation is on opium bomb and survivors become khudkush.Media freedom has ruined the nation by tying everyone with the TV screens. Polititions are happy disscussing on the TV, they are avoiding jalsa jaloos.(It is food for thought)
nah….i dont think rest is the reason behind it….the channel is trying its best as to not to go against the government….same was seen in there urdu newspaper jung today….u dont get it….they are losing on alot ov money….n i seriously think its governments instruction to all those companies to givin ads on geo….and secondly regarding the General kayani thing….please dont pray dat such kinda thing happens….power will transfer frm one dictator to another…n dont expect anythin guud frm him either….he is hand picked by musharraf…they wud be sumwhere on the same level thinkin wise….i jus hope Pakistans’ civil society and bureaucracy is able to moblise itself….imgaine if one department like income tax or police or customs….or anyone for dat matter stops wrkin or boycotts the whole thing….it ll leave musharrafs emergency spineless!!
Lawyers and Judges are the true heros.
@Pakistani,
I fully agree with you. It is disappointing that our civil departments ignored the verdict of Supreme Court that PCO is illegal and nobody should follow any orders from the General. I pray our Police, Civil beauracracy and Military start civil disobedience.
Does any body have any info about the protest of political parties?
Lawyers are in the news since morning, but I have not read any news about political parties.
@ KS
most of the leadership is behind bars. i don’t know what the political workers are waiting for. they should come out on their own.
geo news is reporting that life is normal in lahore, peshawar …i dont understand when is public gonna come out?? even ourselves, we are just sitting here commenting and saying this should happen that should happen but no one does it practically!!! if the leaders are arrested why doesnt normal public come out…how many people can they arrest??
@ fatima
this is what i commented earlier.
“and i agree with sheikh rasheed on this as well. on numerous occassions he has said that the day 1 million ppl come out against the govt. we’ll have no choice but to go home. no army can stand against 1 million countrymen.”
NEWS: They have achieved their objectives.This Martialaw/Emergency thing is being lifted after 72 hours.
that is so right!! in all the tv political shows..this is the only point all the govt. people have! and this is the card they play all the time! and then no one can say anything to them!!! its very disappointing! is it because people are afraid of the police? coz every other day we see police breaking out on someone or the other…
@
fatima
this is the need of the time.as i am away from Pakistan but i still wana protest..but i have not found anyone here who can be with me..bcoz the city where i am living now is very sole and not much Pakistani community is here.
@ Iffee
SOURCE??
same with me..i am in sydney (australia)
but inshAllah going back in december..i would really want to do something..
ordinary people need leadership. same is true for no military coup from lower end. the point is no one knows what and how to do. exceptions are there such as French Revolution.
I can understand why life seem normal in pakistan. people living abroad feels more than people at home. I myself experience same in both situations.
i agree..i was just gonna say that we need a platform…may be we need to form our own group something like the group formed by pkpolitics members in UK! i know it will start off with very few people but may be it can grow from there…i dunno just giving it a thought…
Nusrat javed on aaj tv was mentioning this as he got this from some sources. I heard this before aaj tv was plugged off the air.
Geo reporting the news of raid on jang office in karachi. Right now..
aaj tv again off the air??? does jump tv work in australia??? not sure how to work with jumptv if anyone could help?
@ pejamistri
when is the raid has been conducted by police?? is is today??
@KS
the biggest protest was in Lahore yesterday by Jamaat e Islami. 30,000 members protested againt govt. I think this is the biggest protest till this moment.
General and PM are in meeting as reported by GEO. Something is really fishy out there. ISPR has released a PR
http://www.ispr.gov.pk/Archive&Press/CurrentMonth/press.htm
as if there is nothing happening.
I keep on stressing that DG ISPR is not opening his mouth on General’s current situation. General is in President house in Islamabad not in the army house in Rawalpindi, I have a wishful thinking May be someone else is controlling the Army house in Rawalpindi.
geo tv telling all the details of brutal behaviour of police
@alirao,
Yes today. The supplement of evening newspaper “AWAM” has been stopped.
summary of why jang office was raided today.
according to editor - awam akhbar, nazir laghari described the torture on lawyers. it was horrible. most of the judges and lawyers were bleeding when they were arrested. these were the details govt. wanted to stop from reaching ppl of pakistan. and thats why the offices of jang were raided.
Justice Khalil ur Rahman Ramdey’s interview with CNN and video of police torture.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/11/05/bpr.pakistan.ramdy.cnn
something fishy going on read latest press release on ispr website
http://www.ispr.gov.pk/Archive&Press/CurrentMonth/press.htm
People in Pakistan will not come out to streets against martial law or in support of democracy. They never did in past, because democracy is not too important to ordinary Pakistanis and the Generals know this. If Danish cartoonists and British Government support democracy in Pakistan then they should do something interesting, because that is the only reason when Pakistani can come out in the streets and do some embassy-burning kind of ferocious protests. Maybe religion can galvanise Pakistanis to do something, which democracy/martial-law unable to do.
@
pejamistri
ya there is something fishy bcoz just now Hamid Mir was discussing with Indian media corespondent..that if Mush has to leave the power..then what would be the his future..in this case there was a suggestion might SAUDI ARABIA will take his as guest…Hope this evening can bring any bright light to democracy in Pakistan.
Breaking News:
Army is taking over Islamabad, there is every where rangers in Islamabad. There are 10,000 army perosnals in Islamabad at the moment. All the main roads have been blocked. Quaid-e-Azam university road is blocked. There are army tents on main crossings….
Guys and Gals… wait for the news ..
@ V Sharma
I believe you are from India. We as Pakistanis appreciate your concerns and respect your opinion. but please don’t bring danish cartoon controversy in this. its irrelevant.
@Kami please stop it. Do not spread disinformation because no one (including us) will benefit from it.
According to Hanif Khalid (Please note that he is one of the ISI paid reporter in Jang), Army wants to stay in Islamabad for weeks , as they are setting up their tents and their number is unprecedent in the history of Pakistan.
according to kamran khan at geo
“large number of milliary is moving in islamabad.” stay tuned - commercial break on geo.
@Someone,
Hanif Khalid was on Geo news a minute ago, he gave the detailed information of Army arrival in Islamabad, Kamran Khan asked him if these are new arrangements and he said that it has started happening just today. There are 3-4 army battalion each having 3000 army personal. This is no rumor. They have setup their tents on all the main crossing in Islamabad. They have blocked all major roads.
So it is a confirmed news.
Envoys and Condelleza rice are puttin musharraf under immense pressure….they want him to shed his uniform ryte now…quit as army chief ryte now….and restore democracy and the CJ….they fear civil war mite start in Pakistan….secondly netherlands has cancelled its aid to Pakistan…musharraf is under immense pressure ryte now….i dont think he ll be able to sustain it for even 2 dayz n the US mite aid Kayani to stage a coup against him!!
Mush has realised 200 Bomb(taliban).He said that supreamcourt reald 61 terrist .
Khalil ur rehman ramdy said that Mush have not any avidence angst them.
pejamistri whats yours source??
I called Islamabad a minute ago, apparently things started happening after the meeting of General with envoys from western countries. Also note the tone of Kamran Khan (again please remember he is another paid ISI anchor), has changed dramatically in last 10 minutes. He has all of a sudden become extermely critical to handling of Lawyers in Karachi and Lahore.
His tone shows that he has got some signal.
People spread this word to all the high ups you know to put pressure on core-commanders, DG ISI, and VCOAS, General Kiyani to remove Musharraf. They will be recognised as saviors. It would be shameful in a way but ironically it indeed would be respectable for the majority.
They should know this from as many different people as possible so that they know the serioiusness of this situation.
@fatima,
Hanif Khalid was on Geo news few minutes back he outlined in detail the arrangements for the new army troops in Islamabad.
@ pejamistri
i completely agree bro. in last 10 mins there has been a significant change in kamran khan’s tone and criticism
I would again suggest everybody in Pakistan that each should write a letter anonymously (just one letter ) to GHQ asking Gen Kiani to remove Musharraf. Imagine if a million letters like this start arriving in GHQ it would put immense pressure on GHQ and that wont cost much - just one stamp.
Remember SHAWHSHANK REDEMPTION - if anyone has seen it.
That is one way to putting pressure if at all there is coup and these are all rumours.
But by teh body language of Musharraf and the tone of the West and the way Minsiters were avoiding media I believe there is something happening - it is no doubt getting out of control of Musharraf.
I would inform all the readers that when Iskender Mirza had imposed Martial Law he was removed after three weeks by Ayub whom he had asked to impose Martial Law.
Plus why should the military like Musharraf because he had been repeatedly saying he cannot remove uniform because it was not in interest of Pakistan which DIRECTLY IMPLIED THAT THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE GENERAL IN PAKISTAN ARMY WHO CAN FUNCTION AS CHIEF OF ARMY STAFF - a clear slap on face of his generals that they were not competent. However the actual reason was that HE DID NOT TRUST THEM.
So I would request all the generals to please throw this crazy and mad man out.
Please undo the mistake of 12th October 1999 when you brought him and saved him from being fired. Now is the time for all Pakistan Army to pay the long due debt back to the nation to which they owe for so long.
hey whose coverage is better?? geo or aaj?? i am able to listen to geo but can anyone help me with aaj tv???
before commercial break kamran was talking to hanif khalid..and after the break he is completely off the topic, talking more in a generalized tone of the situation…!!
or this may be due to the fact that jang group media press is being attacked. same happened when jang group attacked in islamad at CJ times
Don’t know why Aaj TV is showing it’s normal programme about SIUT (some medical institute). I checked many times Aaj several time today and it seems they are no more relaying anything related to emergency.
@Sharma - we respect your concern but plesae please do not mention Danish cartoonists - we dont want their support either - while we respect what you believe for religion - we would expect that you would also be sensitive to our sensitivities and one thing no Muslim in this world can ever tolerate under any circumstances howesoever liberal he might be - is to tolerate anything against our beloved Holy Prophet peace be upon him.
So Sharma Sahib I would urge you to avoid even indirect mention of that. We however appreciate your concern regarding democracy in Pakistan and we welcome anything which the outside world can do to help bring democracy in Pakistan.
I agree you something is going on behind the scenes. You might have noticed that new justices are not being brought in for taking oath which shows that something serious is happening is much more serious than oath and recruiting of new judges.
If everything was normal then ministers should have started speaking on media slowly and brand news judges would have been announced.
Let wait and see what comes out of this silence.
@Farhan,
It seems there is no clean self-less leader on horizon which could mobilize Pakistanis for common cause. In absence of a leadership which could galvinise all Pakistanis across party-lines or region-wise, religion (albeit dangerous) could be a basis which could encourage people to fight for a cause. Afterall, it happened earlier 1857 in India, 1880s in Sudan. Just a thought.
It seems things are moving quite fast in last few hours.
@Chussain,
I did not mean to disrepect anyone’s sensitivities, that was not the intention of my earlier comment. Please accept my apologies if unintentionally hurt your or anyone else feelings.
And I do understand how sensitives these matters are.
Kiani Musharraf Ka Pajama Uttar do!
There was an article yesterday in Nation that said BB approved on Emergency and the appointment of new CJ Dogar. Dogar was her man long back ago.
And today in Dawn, Justice Wajih ud din interview, he says it was done with support of NRO beneficiaries. BB knew Supreme Court will throw NRO outside and that would be a big shame on her.And she was also facing tough times from journalists.
There were question marks even on Aitzaz Ahsan who prolonged the hearing giving unnecessary remarks. This is said by Justice Iqbal who said otherwise the order was to be announced on Thursday.
Very serious questions need to be pondered.
Breaking news:
Emergency is being lifted.
pejamistri
again whats your source???
Something is cooking up right now in the GHQ, new amendments under consideration , Judges might be re-instated.
i hope kamran khan goes off and shahid masood replaces him :S this is so annoying!!
I am talking to one of the Journalist in Islamabad. Geo is also showing a ticker saying “Emergency kay khatmay kay liye naye trameemy package lanay per ghour”.
go to dis site http://news.bbc.co.uk/ and click on the latest coverage thing and watch the latest video…..u ll see how brutally the lawyers were latthi charged ..
MQM - Musharraf’s Quta Movement ..
@ Naeem
Lol … good find brother …!!!!
i second pejamistri
kamran khan saying same on geo
Also note that Kamran Khan has stopped calling the CJ Iftikhar Chahdary as former CJ , he is also avoiding to call any Judge a former Judge.
Musharraf is being forced to leave Pakistan….they want to exchange Nawaz Sharif wid General musharraf n send him to saudi arabia….go to dis site… http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/streaming-260.html
@pejamistri
but bbc still not confirmed it and plz there is any other development except the diffusing of emergency.
well there is no doubt it’ll be lifted now. they are working on amendments. and once its lifted musharraf will be further down the hole.
Well according to my source, the idea of lifting emergency actually means reinstating CJ and take back the PCO. Which means general has to quit.
was just watching IBN CNN 7..they were also talking about the rumour that mush is being asked to leave pakistan in a dignified way!!
but pejamistri, they are talking to BB to form some kind of govt.
It seems Benazir is going to play role of Mrs. Mir Jafar to rescue Mushy and to follow the directions her long distant Gods.
@farhan
yes Geo played the different news that I got from the “The News” journalist on phone.
BB knows all the script of this short play. She jumped her flight after having a long distant call and after arriving Pakistan she is waiting for the time where she has been directed to jump in.
it seems they are planning to talk to BB as a last option to save mush and extend the assemblies for an year.
shery rehman with kamran on geo right now!
IMRAN KHAN ON GEO RIGHT NOW!!!
lion of pakistan
imran khan on geo with kamran khan
All the representatives of BB are very well trained to tell a lie.
wait and watch ppl
imran will get out on the streets very soon
No hope but Khan
US has clearly told Musharraf to leave the post of Army Chief and hold announce immediate elections.
Pakistan Army is under lot of pressure now particularly teh top brass because there is unrest in army and that can be very dangerous for the morale of the troops and for the country.
There is no doubt - Gen Kiyani should remove Musharraf once for all.
Yes its significant that suddenly deposed judges have access to phones and are talking to the media. That is indeed an intriguing development.
Also Daily Jang carried top news about comments of Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry in which he said he was defiant and stood his ground.
Also note that Gen Kiyani was teh only general in that famous meeting of President Musharraf, PM Shaukat Aziz and others with CJ on March 9 who did not say anything to CJ although he was ISI Chief. Also he was the only general who did not file any affadavit against CJ.
There was a case coming up against PM Aziz regarding Nawaz Sharif case in which he could have been held for contempt of court and same would go for Prevaiz Elahi.
I think and believe all these guys would regret why they openly came out against Supreme Court and judiciary because they would need them teh most now. Same mistake which Nawaz Sharif made at that time. Guys people dont learn from history
Ryte now BB wud be on dictating terms….i think musharraf has to go home now….time has cum….only one can stay ….either CJ or the musharraf……n it doesnt look like dat the CJ will go……we hav reached the end….wat started on the 9th of march …ends now……Musharraf has to bow down!!