what will become of Pakistan? whats like ”happiness” in the life of Pakistanis? that we win an ODI from india, alright yeah, even that is snatched, we have no right to b happy, we simply dont deserve it, we dont deserve Pakistan
mein kis k naam pukaroon kya kya alam guzar rahe hain
meray shehar jal rahay hain meray log mar rahe hain
koi ghuncha ho k gul ho, koi shaakh ho ya shajar ho
woh hawa-e-gulistan hai k sab hi bikhar rahe hain
“Happiness” in the life of Pakistani’s is buying the most expensive Nokia cellphone you can’t afford but can borrow enough to buy it.
“Happiness” is knowing every cellphone makers’ cellphone models and their features by heart.
“Happiness” is spending more on your phone bill than on your groceries.
“Happiness” is knowing every Premier League and UEFA football team’s roster
“Happiness” is watching the same third-rate Indian movie on cable more than a 100 times.
“Happiness” is …
Oh, don’t get me started!
it shows that he is planning to quit as army chief and doesnt trust the next coming army chief….
cause next chief may lift emergency without his consent..
Read this article and decide that people from our respectable institution i.e Armed forces, are applying their resources not for homeland security and measures to eliminate terrorism but to resolve their family matters.
This is another game now - because Musharraf knows that if he has to give up COAS post and is able to retain President post then he would have the authoritiy to end emergency which he can keep it as long as he likes especially if Supreme Court rules that he can be president for next five years .
A last desperate attempt by the despot and his legal advisors.
I think Mush will transfer all powers of COAS to president (in view of his future plans) and most interesting thing will be some one else becoming president
Indeed there was discussion on Dr. shahid massod program and that next COAS can not lift emergency and either that act needs to be approved by NA (like zia’s 8th amendment) or person abrogating law must be treated under law.
yaar, what law? you think if the next coas doesn’t like emergency, he wouldnt lift it because of PCO? He’ll bring forward his PPCO to do that. Pakistan uske piyo ki jageer jo hui.
1 - President also wants senate chairmanship so in case he is not in country or something happens to him, chairman senate will be the president.
2 - The most serious name under consideration for caretaker PM is Pervaiz Musharraf who can be neutral for all parties, to ensure free and fair elections
AJ:
this is exactly the main problem and whoever comes will ultimately needs some sort of legitimation. amendments with sharif pirzada has been the most successful tool.
“Several senior officials said that with each day that passed, more of their colleagues were coming around to the belief that Gen Musharraf’s days in power were numbered, the New York Times reported.”
This amendment was actually suggested by Sharifuddin Prizada
I truly believe that instead of going after Musharraf we should go after these guys who are his advisors because they are real culprits. So when the next goverment comes and there should be a open public trial under Article 6 of the following
1. Tariq Aziz
2. Chief Justice lota Dogar
3. Sharifuddin Pirzada
4. Justice (disgraced) Qayyum
5. Chaudhry Pervez Elahi
6. Shaukat Aziz
7. Arbab Rahim
8. Governer Ibad
Unitl and unless this is not done - these things would be repeated again and again. So they have to be given a lesson so that no one in future dares to coperate with army generals when they overthrow the goverment
Sharifuddin Pirzada should have his name in Guniness Book of Records for writing maximum PCOs in teh whole world
He should be given Nishan Haider, Pride of peformance, Nobel Prize, Nishan Pakistan for his outstanding achievement of dismantling Pakistan which his boss Quaid-1-Azam made
Jinnah was true when he had said - meray jaib mein saray sikay khothay niklay
Its time for fun now, coz everybody is busy in securing his seat………
wah mairey maula……..
The real drama will begin when new COAS would abide by the Law just like Mush
THE White House is trying to distance itself from President Pervez Musharraf and build connections to other Pakistanis, fearing he could soon fall from power.
The US embassy had stepped up meetings with opposition and pro-democracy leaders, military officers and other influential figures, diplomats said.
Increasingly, “the general view is that we’re in the endgame”, said Marvin Weinbaum, who monitors US policy towards Pakistan at the Middle East Institute in Washington.
The shift in US tactics comes amid suggestions that opposition figures are moving towards forging an alliance against General Musharraf. Raja Zafar-ul Haq, a top official in former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s party, said yesterday that Mr Sharif and his long-time rival Benazir Bhutto spoke by telephone on Wednesday and were ready to bury their differences for a “joint struggle” to oust General Musharraf.
the things in Pakistan are much worst than what we can see on the media….
i spoke to a friend in Pakistan who was a staunch supporter of Mush until a few years ago…..he was so depressed and bitter and kept on saying only one thing ….. ‘Yar i wish Mush was dead’….
sad that it has come to this for Pakistanies back home that the only way they say Mush go is if he is dead?
Being abroad i feel depressed when i see images on TV and the jokers making mockery of my homeland….those in Pakistan who have to face it day in day out..its much worse for them.
BUT ….Mush will go very soon now…in days not weeks…. and ‘chaman main baharain ain gee’
All the top leaders are really scared of IKs popularity in youth.
They know its all about wave, once it would start it will never stop & IK will emerge as a new leader acceptable to all means both left & right wing
I agree. But i am also surprised at how naive all other pilotical leaders have been in guaging IKs popularity in youth. IK has always been extremely popular in the youth. He has been and continue to be a role model for a lot of youngsters, and rightfully so. He deserves this. We are all proud that IK is a Pakistani.
I would pray that won’t hurt our real modern day thinker & worker.
I really proud of him, his fighting with the traditional politicians(goons).
Allah usey lambi umar ata karey & usey sehat aur himmat dey. (Ameen)
Just fuck off jamiat just shut up u lotas.They send our leader in jail & now they show their sympathizes.We will see how many seats u can win.
Imran can not see your faces,he was betrayed by their beard evil faces.
U did this thing with an gentleman what happen in Karachi by mqm.Vahan tumhari pathti hai.
When you look at someone like IK, you gotta say that he’s someone who has always got Allah’s help. Look at the adversaries and challenges he has faced and emerged victorious. He was told he cannot play for Pakistan as he is a below average cricketer in the 70s. He then represented Paskistan. Then he was told he cannot be the Captain at all as he lacks leadership skills. He captained Pakistan after that claim. Then in 83 he was written off as a fast bowler after an injury. He took a break and changed his action. He was told not to do so as no fast bowler in history has changed his action and could retain effectiveness and pace. The rest is history :). Then he said we’ll win the world cup in 92. His own family said he has gone crazy. The world saw us as world champions. In between we saw him planning the cancer hospital. Everyone told him it cannot be achieved. First, he cannot build it. And if he somehow can build it he cannot run it. The world saw he built it and it is one of the best cancer hospitals in the world.
Then he announced he wants to get into politics. People made fun of him. People discouraged him. Today many say he is our only hope.
So rest assured, this is one Lion of Pakistan who will never quit. He’ll make us proud once again.
Its clear from the events that unfolded right after the sharmnak behaviour with IK, that all the traditional politicians are scared of the New Leader from working class.
I read somewhere BB quoted that I was paying the tuitio fee by myself istead of being on scholarship like IK(superiority complex, Jaaghirdana andaze biyyan)
‘I read somewhere BB quoted that I was paying the tuition fee by myself instead of being on scholarship like IK’
I wonder what was her source of income as a student. The lady used to drive a Porche to Oxford :).
IK has been a real gentleman politician I must say. Politics is a dirty game and IK has some interesting knowledge about BB and her crush on Majid Khan. He has never commented on all this and other stuff about BB and her life at Oxford.
@Farhan, Asif,
I am sure they knew how popular IK was among the youths. I also have a feeling that they wanted to tone him down so that their so-called popularity would not be impacted. Remember, it was IK who first stood up and took on MQM when his party workers were shot. No one has openly (and justly) criticized Mush and his cronies the way he did.
If I am a worker of a large party (PML-N, PPP) and I see that here is a leader of a smaller party who openly takes a stand against a terrorist party when his workers are shot and even though no one was killed, he still decides to pursue the case. What kind of message would it convey to those workers of so-called large parties whose colleagues were killed and no one did anything.
This is all bloody power politics.
I agree bro. I am not mistaken or getting excited about this fact. I just know that IK is one leader we should look up to as he deserves a chance. As for elections, I am not saying he’ll become PM or something. But he’ll definitely bring a change, and thats what his goal is.
Thatswhy we love IK, he goes for justice.
Because injustice is the root-cause of all the problems.
So he promotes Justice & he was the first one who voiced for the restoration of Judiciary, while rest of all just followed him. So hes really driving the political tycoons, I simply love that……….
And a lot of people I believe don’t even realise, IK’s party is known as Tehreek-e-Insaaf which he founded a decade ago :).He is the only politician who decided from the get go that the only solution to every problem starts from having rule of law.
Its not about seats, read the above comments by me, how the political tycoons are forced to fight for justice, willingly or unwillingly. So hes the check on political parties thatswhy we love IK.
Now everyone talks of justice, previously people know the decision of the case even before the case is filed.
Now we know what happens when martial-law is imposed, how a common man is affected. He created the awareness among us & I am thankful of him for this.
Persident Pervez Musharaf is Pakistan’s saviour. God bless him for his service.Now he should leave.
I’m not gonna use my ghetto language since nobody is comparing me to Ali G and calling me ISI. Imran sucks. He can’t cooperate with Mian Nawaz Shareef or Benazair Bhutto. Imran cheatd Main Nawaz Shareef on sep 10 and didn’t dare to come out and support Benazair Bhutto.
right on spot. tu ney aatey saath hi us ki baja dee…….
Mentaly-distorded logon ka ilaj sirf ek hi hai just ignor them.
Its the biggest punishment thru which Mush is passing nowadays.
I wonder how old is khurram. can you tell us your age buddy? ’cause guaging from your posts since yesterday, your IQ seems no more than of a 10 year old.
@Khuram
You are entitled to your opinion, whether we agree or not. NS is a glory hog. After the SC gave its decision in July that he could come to Pakistan any time, we wanted to have the same multi-million-man reception as CJP got (when he was going places between March and July) and instead of flying to Pakistan sooner, he gave more than ample time to the government to pre-empt his plans. IK was present at the airport but none of the PML-N worker showed up at the airport.
Guys its time for break n fun……..
Kurram jao Mush ki maalish waalish karo us k chehrey ka rung ura ura sa hai. usey hum sey zaida tumhari zaroorat hai.
Jao shabash parey bachey zid nahin kartey…….
yaar gaon main ek banda hota jis ka kaam her haal main entertain karna hota hai, usey miraasi kehtey hain.
Ab I don’t know k US main miraasi ko kya kehtey hain
Someone help me out………..
What is the use of using abusive language? Supprot whom you like but please don’t fight!
If there is nothing positive to share then don’t write…
No leader or person is perfect, almost everyone made some mistakes or their acts look mistakes to us. However, it is not of much use to fight for personalities!
Personally, i feel that best thing which is useful for all is that we correct ourselves, think positively, act positively… If we can do it then we can do all otherwise things will remain complicated…
Pakistan needs unity, pateince and braveness and not opposite, i feel.
We should not discriminate…Khuram has right to chose his way and others too…It is impossible that people agree on absolute one point, so there is no other option excpet we tolerate each other. We can talk on reasons of of our likes and dislikes but we can’t force anyone.
Yes, do criticise each other but personal hits at the end don’t bring something positive, we just lose energy and direction in this process…
need link to any sites with anti-Mush anti-emergency banners, we are having a protest today and i need some good slogans, the site i had is not working any more http://www.cspfp.search.org.pk/. urgent please
WOW MAN U PEOPLE DO HAVE LOT OF TIME…LOOK AT ALL THESE RESPONSES no wonder why Pakistan is still light years behind developing nations …TELL U WHAT Y DONT U ALL GO AND DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE WITH UR TIME and if u do wanna protest go on streets leaving messages on websites while sitting on ur a*&$ and cursing other people will not do any good..
Admin you had put some comments on moderation but how come you are allowing some people who have lost all the decent ways of putting their point of view to use abusive language. You should moderate their comments also and remove them from board
Right on target. Thats their old method of face-saving. Hes no more than that. Has he played any role in bringing up the awareness in masses?
They are always with establishment to secure some seats & make money by giving them the constitutional protect to their illegal acts.
They paid bunch of Mullas nothing else. They cannot think beyond themselves.
This just one picture to explain why Musharraf should not be in power. Please do not close your eyes and leave your responsibilities by ignoring the facts.
Real face of MQM (Made by Dictator for his own agenda)
Mr Khan, 55, leader of the small Tehrik-in-Insaaf (Justice) party and an outspoken critic of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, was taken under heavy guard to the Kot Lakhpat jail on the outskirts of Lahore.
The move came as Attorney-General Malik Mohammad Qayyum announced last night General Musharraf would stand down as army chief before December 1.
General Musharraf and other officials had said he would wait for the Supreme Court to rule on the legality of his October 6 re-election as president before quitting the army.
Kot Lakhpat has for decades been one of Pakistan’s most feared jails and has frequently been used by military rulers to imprison their opponents. It was where former prime minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, father of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, was incarcerated after he was overthrown by General Mohammed Zia-ul Haq.
suna hai imran khan ki kafi thukaai ki hai islami jamiat talba ney. sorry but imran have to pay because he is getting more CHANDA and qurbani ki KHAALAIN much more then jamiat.
@nota:
In the link that you have mentioned above, I see the following statement from BB:
“I am talking to the other opposition parties to find out whether they are in a position to come together,” she said from her home in Lahore.
It is interesting that neither BB nor NS are in any hurry in taking any drastic steps to counter Mush.
Just when you think americans might be getting some sense (see “US ‘looking beyond’ Musharraf’s leadership” and “Knives out for Musharraf as US loosens ties” linked earlier) out comes this sh*t:
US hedges its bets on Musharraf http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7093891.stm
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US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte is being sent to Pakistan later this week to try to defuse the crisis.
Yet, officials carry on issuing measured responses to the events in Pakistan, even arguing for patience towards the country’s military ruler.
“It’s a real fine dance,” says George Perkovich, a South Asia expert with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
In the coming days if it looks like Gen Musharraf is on his way out, the administration will distance itself from him - but if they feel he’s got another life they will try not to alienate him, he says.
“They will not take a firm position one way or another. It will be wishy-washy,” Mr Perkovich says.
Uncertainty
Analysts say Washington does not want to be in a situation where it walks away from Gen Musharraf and yet he holds on to power for, say, another nine months.
“What happens during that period if Washington still has to deal with him. It’s going to be a really ugly time,” says Daniel Markey, who until recently served on the state department’s policy planning staff.
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Marvin Weinbaum, former Pakistan analyst at the state department, says he would be amazed if the process hadn’t already begun.
“It’s almost inevitable that the military will come to the conclusion that Musharraf can’t be part of the new formula if normalcy has to be restored,” he says.
People’s will
In fact, over the past week, the administration’s emphasis has been more on the “will” of Pakistani people than the commitment to stand by Gen Musharraf.
@Amir Hameed
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Why doesn’t NS send Kulsoom or SS to Pakistan? So, what if they get arrested like the thousands of other.
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Thanks for reminding me…Wasn’t Kulsoom talking tough saying she will be here in a couple of days when NS was deported. Later she changed it to “I will first go to UAE and be there in a few days.” That was then followed by “I will be there right after Ramazan.” Maybe now she is waiting for Muharram to pass…
The problem is that they are not bold enough to take the right decisions at right time.
And our traditional politician is still not upto the mark at current pace of life. They will suffer, In Pakistan Electronic media has bring the people answerable to common man. They still have to face it once media & they are back in active politics.
Kot lakh put jail ,actually produces real leader . Now inshallah after king khan will appear from that well known jail ,be a bigest leader of all of those fake poiltician . point to be noted here is every fake leader , raising voice for emergency is out of jail and just facing very minor detanations .. only Imran khan and his party is being treated very badly . so unfortunately we should conclude that we have only one real and true voice for pakistan and all other are just waiting to increase their ” price” in this cahos . kia hur koi apni boli barhanay kay liay fake jaloos nikal rahay hain …
jeo Imran .
My point is that these so-called leaders are sitting in their palaces while others are facing the brunt in the country. These are opportunists who just want to become heads of the state or province without any personal sacrifices.
Take a look at the PML-N’s oficial web site: http://www.pmln.org.pk/
There is a big heading titled “Nawaz welcomes Benazir’s statement”
But there is no condemnation on the way IK was treated and arrested. Mind you that NS owes most of his recent popularity to IK as it was the latter who kept insisting him to go to Pakistan after the SC verdict and NS became popular only after the deportation event.
Now why would BBC feature him on top of the page (covering the whole screen)? Scroll down and you see no one else supports that view. Certainly Asma Jehangir belonged at the top…
@Amir Hameed on November 15th, 2007 5:47 pm My point is that these so-called leaders are sitting in their palaces while others are facing the brunt in the country. These are opportunists who just want to become heads of the state or province without any personal sacrifices.
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But now their is a new court(Electronic Media) with Youtube is in place, tracking their each & every move & bringing them to the board. So this court never pends the cases, thatswhy they have to prepare their cases within limited amount of time. I love this new check on the people who gove
November 15th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
I am praying now a days more often then before for betterment for Pakistan, its future, peace and stability. ammen
November 15th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Today i am very sad,IJT Gangsters misbahved with King Khan!Long Live Kig+sir Imran Khan you are our hero,and we salute you for your braveness
November 15th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
what will become of Pakistan? whats like ”happiness” in the life of Pakistanis? that we win an ODI from india, alright yeah, even that is snatched, we have no right to b happy, we simply dont deserve it, we dont deserve Pakistan
November 15th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
mein kis k naam pukaroon kya kya alam guzar rahe hain
meray shehar jal rahay hain meray log mar rahe hain
koi ghuncha ho k gul ho, koi shaakh ho ya shajar ho
woh hawa-e-gulistan hai k sab hi bikhar rahe hain
November 15th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Geo just reprted:
PCO amended, COAS has given the authority to the President to lift emergency.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
@farhan
What a joke:). mush is a real joker.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
@ jojo
yeah bro. that he is for sure. : )
November 15th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
“Happiness” in the life of Pakistani’s is buying the most expensive Nokia cellphone you can’t afford but can borrow enough to buy it.
“Happiness” is knowing every cellphone makers’ cellphone models and their features by heart.
“Happiness” is spending more on your phone bill than on your groceries.
“Happiness” is knowing every Premier League and UEFA football team’s roster
“Happiness” is watching the same third-rate Indian movie on cable more than a 100 times.
“Happiness” is …
Oh, don’t get me started!
November 15th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
@farhan
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PCO amended, COAS has given the authority to the President to lift emergency.
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I honestly thought it was a joke. Man, was I wrong!
November 15th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
The COAS and the president have been having an urgent meeting at the president house
November 15th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
it shows that he is planning to quit as army chief and doesnt trust the next coming army chief….
cause next chief may lift emergency without his consent..
November 15th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Read this article and decide that people from our respectable institution i.e Armed forces, are applying their resources not for homeland security and measures to eliminate terrorism but to resolve their family matters.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=1849
‘Book the doctor ordered’
Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy (Paperback)
by Ayesha Siddiqa (Author)
check out some extracts from this book.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,,2091816,00.html#article_continue
“Judgement is Yours”
November 15th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
This is another game now - because Musharraf knows that if he has to give up COAS post and is able to retain President post then he would have the authoritiy to end emergency which he can keep it as long as he likes especially if Supreme Court rules that he can be president for next five years .
A last desperate attempt by the despot and his legal advisors.
He is now turning against his own woould be COAS.
Lets us see what more he does in days to come.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I think Mush will transfer all powers of COAS to president (in view of his future plans) and most interesting thing will be some one else becoming president
November 15th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
@AJ
After the meeting, th COAS and the President goes to same toilet simultaneoulsy.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Indeed there was discussion on Dr. shahid massod program and that next COAS can not lift emergency and either that act needs to be approved by NA (like zia’s 8th amendment) or person abrogating law must be treated under law.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
@Ahmed Bhai
You read Mush like an open book. So basically he is saying give me the pResidency and I will lift the emergency.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
yaar, what law? you think if the next coas doesn’t like emergency, he wouldnt lift it because of PCO? He’ll bring forward his PPCO to do that. Pakistan uske piyo ki jageer jo hui.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Unconfirmed news:
1 - President also wants senate chairmanship so in case he is not in country or something happens to him, chairman senate will be the president.
2 - The most serious name under consideration for caretaker PM is Pervaiz Musharraf who can be neutral for all parties, to ensure free and fair elections
November 15th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
AJ:
this is exactly the main problem and whoever comes will ultimately needs some sort of legitimation. amendments with sharif pirzada has been the most successful tool.
November 15th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Somehow this 82 years old Sharif-ud-Din PirBaba should go home. He has been the writer of almost all the PCOs and LFOs right from Ayub.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
PirBaba? I’d say keep the -zada at the end and change the other part
November 15th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
When will American admin accept it’s stupidity? The following is before the latest Emergency/COAS/Pres bull:
US ‘looking beyond’ Musharraf’s leadership
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/15/wpak215.xml
“Several senior officials said that with each day that passed, more of their colleagues were coming around to the belief that Gen Musharraf’s days in power were numbered, the New York Times reported.”
November 15th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
This amendment was actually suggested by Sharifuddin Prizada
I truly believe that instead of going after Musharraf we should go after these guys who are his advisors because they are real culprits. So when the next goverment comes and there should be a open public trial under Article 6 of the following
1. Tariq Aziz
2. Chief Justice lota Dogar
3. Sharifuddin Pirzada
4. Justice (disgraced) Qayyum
5. Chaudhry Pervez Elahi
6. Shaukat Aziz
7. Arbab Rahim
8. Governer Ibad
Unitl and unless this is not done - these things would be repeated again and again. So they have to be given a lesson so that no one in future dares to coperate with army generals when they overthrow the goverment
November 15th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
some prefix: Army, Mush, Haram, Qahar, General….
November 15th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
Sharifuddin Pirzada should have his name in Guniness Book of Records for writing maximum PCOs in teh whole world
He should be given Nishan Haider, Pride of peformance, Nobel Prize, Nishan Pakistan for his outstanding achievement of dismantling Pakistan which his boss Quaid-1-Azam made
Jinnah was true when he had said - meray jaib mein saray sikay khothay niklay
November 15th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Geo: cabinet division issued the amendment notification.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv7YdFVe2Is
Please watch the video, Bol Ke Lab Aazad, Faiz Ahamd Faiz
Also please sign the protest and/or pledge at a website made by students for all Pakistanis
http://www.BoltaPakistan.com Please forward it to all you can to help spread the word. Thanks
November 15th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Its time for fun now, coz everybody is busy in securing his seat………
wah mairey maula……..
The real drama will begin when new COAS would abide by the Law just like Mush
November 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Geo Braking news:
Mush: Army will soon hit militants hard
Allah swat me logon ko apni aman me rekhey.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
One hour left to legtimize the “Gund” of Mush
November 15th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
I heard AJ tv is back in Islamabad. does it mean talat hussain is out? can anyone confirm?
November 15th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
I think -zada worked not more than one year with Quaid, but he always dipicted himself as one of the stalwarts of tehreek-e-Azaadi.
Unfortunatley, He didn’t learn anything from Quaid and supported every dictator.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Geo: 17 jamiat members basic membership has been canceled and submission of apology what happened to IK and journalists. committee
all over from Qazi sh!!
November 15th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
I still have not seen any statement from NS on IK’s manhandling from IJT.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Knives out for Musharraf as US loosens ties
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/knives-out-for-musharraf-as-us-loosens-ties/2007/11/15/1194766868463.html
THE White House is trying to distance itself from President Pervez Musharraf and build connections to other Pakistanis, fearing he could soon fall from power.
The US embassy had stepped up meetings with opposition and pro-democracy leaders, military officers and other influential figures, diplomats said.
Increasingly, “the general view is that we’re in the endgame”, said Marvin Weinbaum, who monitors US policy towards Pakistan at the Middle East Institute in Washington.
The shift in US tactics comes amid suggestions that opposition figures are moving towards forging an alliance against General Musharraf. Raja Zafar-ul Haq, a top official in former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s party, said yesterday that Mr Sharif and his long-time rival Benazir Bhutto spoke by telephone on Wednesday and were ready to bury their differences for a “joint struggle” to oust General Musharraf.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
the things in Pakistan are much worst than what we can see on the media….
i spoke to a friend in Pakistan who was a staunch supporter of Mush until a few years ago…..he was so depressed and bitter and kept on saying only one thing ….. ‘Yar i wish Mush was dead’….
sad that it has come to this for Pakistanies back home that the only way they say Mush go is if he is dead?
Being abroad i feel depressed when i see images on TV and the jokers making mockery of my homeland….those in Pakistan who have to face it day in day out..its much worse for them.
BUT ….Mush will go very soon now…in days not weeks…. and ‘chaman main baharain ain gee’
November 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
@Amir Hameed
All the top leaders are really scared of IKs popularity in youth.
They know its all about wave, once it would start it will never stop & IK will emerge as a new leader acceptable to all means both left & right wing
November 15th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
@ Asif
I agree. But i am also surprised at how naive all other pilotical leaders have been in guaging IKs popularity in youth. IK has always been extremely popular in the youth. He has been and continue to be a role model for a lot of youngsters, and rightfully so. He deserves this. We are all proud that IK is a Pakistani.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
@farhan
I would pray that won’t hurt our real modern day thinker & worker.
I really proud of him, his fighting with the traditional politicians(goons).
Allah usey lambi umar ata karey & usey sehat aur himmat dey. (Ameen)
November 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Geo: 17 jamiat members basic membership has been canceled and submission of apology what happened to IK and journalists. committee
So a crowd of 500 students couldn’t stop 17 lafange?
November 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Just fuck off jamiat just shut up u lotas.They send our leader in jail & now they show their sympathizes.We will see how many seats u can win.
Imran can not see your faces,he was betrayed by their beard evil faces.
U did this thing with an gentleman what happen in Karachi by mqm.Vahan tumhari pathti hai.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
JI is putting salt on the wounds of IK & all of us. You know, Khanapuri, Nothing else
November 15th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
The REAL CRIMINALS ARE:
Chaudry bros, Malik Qayuum, S. Rahsid, Sher Afgan.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
The old Face-saving tactics & in underground laguage, rangbaazi.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
@ Asif
When you look at someone like IK, you gotta say that he’s someone who has always got Allah’s help. Look at the adversaries and challenges he has faced and emerged victorious. He was told he cannot play for Pakistan as he is a below average cricketer in the 70s. He then represented Paskistan. Then he was told he cannot be the Captain at all as he lacks leadership skills. He captained Pakistan after that claim. Then in 83 he was written off as a fast bowler after an injury. He took a break and changed his action. He was told not to do so as no fast bowler in history has changed his action and could retain effectiveness and pace. The rest is history :). Then he said we’ll win the world cup in 92. His own family said he has gone crazy. The world saw us as world champions. In between we saw him planning the cancer hospital. Everyone told him it cannot be achieved. First, he cannot build it. And if he somehow can build it he cannot run it. The world saw he built it and it is one of the best cancer hospitals in the world.
Then he announced he wants to get into politics. People made fun of him. People discouraged him. Today many say he is our only hope.
So rest assured, this is one Lion of Pakistan who will never quit. He’ll make us proud once again.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Its clear from the events that unfolded right after the sharmnak behaviour with IK, that all the traditional politicians are scared of the New Leader from working class.
I read somewhere BB quoted that I was paying the tuitio fee by myself istead of being on scholarship like IK(superiority complex, Jaaghirdana andaze biyyan)
November 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
@ Asif
‘I read somewhere BB quoted that I was paying the tuition fee by myself instead of being on scholarship like IK’
I wonder what was her source of income as a student. The lady used to drive a Porche to Oxford :).
IK has been a real gentleman politician I must say. Politics is a dirty game and IK has some interesting knowledge about BB and her crush on Majid Khan. He has never commented on all this and other stuff about BB and her life at Oxford.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
@Farhan, Asif,
I am sure they knew how popular IK was among the youths. I also have a feeling that they wanted to tone him down so that their so-called popularity would not be impacted. Remember, it was IK who first stood up and took on MQM when his party workers were shot. No one has openly (and justly) criticized Mush and his cronies the way he did.
If I am a worker of a large party (PML-N, PPP) and I see that here is a leader of a smaller party who openly takes a stand against a terrorist party when his workers are shot and even though no one was killed, he still decides to pursue the case. What kind of message would it convey to those workers of so-called large parties whose colleagues were killed and no one did anything.
This is all bloody power politics.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Before all the IK supporters get too excited, we must wait till election and see how many seats he secures………Last time he only won one seat……..
November 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
@ Shahid
I agree bro. I am not mistaken or getting excited about this fact. I just know that IK is one leader we should look up to as he deserves a chance. As for elections, I am not saying he’ll become PM or something. But he’ll definitely bring a change, and thats what his goal is.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
BB-NS-IK alliance with the small parties is the small way.
JI, JUI and all Mullah Munafiqs must be sidelined.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Thatswhy we love IK, he goes for justice.
Because injustice is the root-cause of all the problems.
So he promotes Justice & he was the first one who voiced for the restoration of Judiciary, while rest of all just followed him. So hes really driving the political tycoons, I simply love that……….
November 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
@ Asif
And a lot of people I believe don’t even realise, IK’s party is known as Tehreek-e-Insaaf which he founded a decade ago :).He is the only politician who decided from the get go that the only solution to every problem starts from having rule of law.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
@Shahid
Its not about seats, read the above comments by me, how the political tycoons are forced to fight for justice, willingly or unwillingly. So hes the check on political parties thatswhy we love IK.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Now everyone talks of justice, previously people know the decision of the case even before the case is filed.
Now we know what happens when martial-law is imposed, how a common man is affected. He created the awareness among us & I am thankful of him for this.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Everyone, look at Geo. Dictator is on addressing a group of ppl.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
any body tell me can i see live match between Pak and india now please response
November 15th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Musharraf is not accpetable with or without uniform.
We dont want to see him in govt. office in any capacity.
Malik Qayumm is the worst AG ever.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Persident Pervez Musharaf is Pakistan’s saviour. God bless him for his service.Now he should leave.
I’m not gonna use my ghetto language since nobody is comparing me to Ali G and calling me ISI. Imran sucks. He can’t cooperate with Mian Nawaz Shareef or Benazair Bhutto. Imran cheatd Main Nawaz Shareef on sep 10 and didn’t dare to come out and support Benazair Bhutto.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Mush’s press conference
This man has nerves.
He still talks about constitution and Pakistan First.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
abey yaar Khurram. Tu phir aa gaya. Alright guys, whos taking him on today
November 15th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
It seemz to be one of the halls of big president palace…
November 15th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Oh you guys say that Musharaf takes Pakistan as his jageer and now you guys take this website as your jageer.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
@farhan
right on spot. tu ney aatey saath hi us ki baja dee…….
Mentaly-distorded logon ka ilaj sirf ek hi hai just ignor them.
Its the biggest punishment thru which Mush is passing nowadays.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
@Khuram
Pappu yaar, tang na kar
November 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
I wonder how old is khurram. can you tell us your age buddy? ’cause guaging from your posts since yesterday, your IQ seems no more than of a 10 year old.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
@Khuram
You are entitled to your opinion, whether we agree or not. NS is a glory hog. After the SC gave its decision in July that he could come to Pakistan any time, we wanted to have the same multi-million-man reception as CJP got (when he was going places between March and July) and instead of flying to Pakistan sooner, he gave more than ample time to the government to pre-empt his plans. IK was present at the airport but none of the PML-N worker showed up at the airport.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Guys its time for break n fun……..
Kurram jao Mush ki maalish waalish karo us k chehrey ka rung ura ura sa hai. usey hum sey zaida tumhari zaroorat hai.
Jao shabash parey bachey zid nahin kartey…….
November 15th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
It tough to acknowledge truth that why its teasing now!!
November 15th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
I hope BB does not fall into trap again that is being laid by US.
All opposition must get together to get rid of this Cancer (MUSHARRAF).
November 15th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
@farhan
Buddah sathaya gya hai…….:p
November 15th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
@Asif
I think you could do a better job then me. Seems like you got a lot of babysitting experience!!! ha ha ha
November 15th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Musharraf’s accent is neither Punjabi nor urdu.
He is FA fail Jahil General.
“Mein nay media ko azaadi dee ayyyyy”
What a joke.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Invite Buddah in your home at night and see what it will do.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
yaar gaon main ek banda hota jis ka kaam her haal main entertain karna hota hai, usey miraasi kehtey hain.
Ab I don’t know k US main miraasi ko kya kehtey hain
Someone help me out………..
November 15th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Buddah sathay gya hey jamalo…….
November 15th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
I help you. US main marasi ko Imran Khan kehtay hain.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
@Asif
You’re right
Buddah sathay gya hey jamalo…….
November 15th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
@Khurram
UK may marasi ko musharraf ka chmcha kehtay hein
November 15th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Oh ach tumhain baatain karna bhi aate hain…….
Bhai ab tu US main bhi reh ker miraasi hi rehna chahta hai to humain koi aitrazz nahi
welcome to US
November 15th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Buddah sathay gya hai jamalo……
Buddah aa gya maidan main hey jamalo….
November 15th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
I think I’ve said something that really hurts. Hun!!!!!!!
November 15th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
What is the use of using abusive language? Supprot whom you like but please don’t fight!
If there is nothing positive to share then don’t write…
No leader or person is perfect, almost everyone made some mistakes or their acts look mistakes to us. However, it is not of much use to fight for personalities!
Personally, i feel that best thing which is useful for all is that we correct ourselves, think positively, act positively… If we can do it then we can do all otherwise things will remain complicated…
Pakistan needs unity, pateince and braveness and not opposite, i feel.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
@Asif
This retard has diverted the topic. Ignore him. He comes from mushy’s zaat - stubborn retard.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
@Babarsaab
Don’t worry its time for tea break & rest…….
November 15th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
??????? ???????
November 15th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
@Zaheer
Miraasi ki zaban hi aisee hoti is liyye in ko in k haal per chore do……..
November 15th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
We should not discriminate…Khuram has right to chose his way and others too…It is impossible that people agree on absolute one point, so there is no other option excpet we tolerate each other. We can talk on reasons of of our likes and dislikes but we can’t force anyone.
Yes, do criticise each other but personal hits at the end don’t bring something positive, we just lose energy and direction in this process…
November 15th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
need link to any sites with anti-Mush anti-emergency banners, we are having a protest today and i need some good slogans, the site i had is not working any more http://www.cspfp.search.org.pk/. urgent please
November 15th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
haha tendulkar again out in the 90s.sixth time this year
November 15th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Khuram:
quote:I think (I’ve said something that really hurts. Hun!!!!!!!)
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Can you really think?
then please tell us more about how Mush is best nd what good he can bring to us?
November 15th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
caretaker premier :
http://www.senate.gov.pk/ShowMemberDetail.asp?ChairmanTag=C
November 15th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
great comedy match b/w Mush and Hush (Qazi Hussain)
Mush: emergency na lagatey to bohran 10 times ziada hota… Ma dictation ko bayezity samajtha hoon…..
Qazi: I will bring all parties on single agenda of SC restoration after end of my house arrest….
Jang website
November 15th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
WOW MAN U PEOPLE DO HAVE LOT OF TIME…LOOK AT ALL THESE RESPONSES no wonder why Pakistan is still light years behind developing nations …TELL U WHAT Y DONT U ALL GO AND DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE WITH UR TIME and if u do wanna protest go on streets leaving messages on websites while sitting on ur a*&$ and cursing other people will not do any good..
November 15th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
@ Admim
Admin you had put some comments on moderation but how come you are allowing some people who have lost all the decent ways of putting their point of view to use abusive language. You should moderate their comments also and remove them from board
November 15th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Move 4 JUS: Welcome aboard
How did you find us - while sitting or standing
November 15th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
@to all bros
Recite “Aouz billah…….”to get rid of khurram
The best treatment for khurram is to just ignore him.Do not reply him in any case ,he will leave soon
November 15th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Did u guys just see geo??? policemn dragging women on ground , 3 of them IKs sisters!! i am shocked
November 15th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
@Ahmed Bhai
Right on target. Thats their old method of face-saving. Hes no more than that. Has he played any role in bringing up the awareness in masses?
They are always with establishment to secure some seats & make money by giving them the constitutional protect to their illegal acts.
They paid bunch of Mullas nothing else. They cannot think beyond themselves.
November 15th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
what a shame..
Just saw on Geo TI and IK’s sisters’ protest, police brutality, their arrests, and first time saw male police smashing women…..
unbelievable….
November 15th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Soomro caretaker PM appointed
November 15th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Geo News just aired clips:
3 sisters of Imran Khan and few workers of PTI badly beaten and arrested by police in Lahore.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
India 3 - Pak 1
November 15th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Sindh interim Chief Minister - Mumtaz Bhutto?
Punjab interim Chief MInister - Justice R Ijaz Nasir
November 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
@ Khurram
This just one picture to explain why Musharraf should not be in power. Please do not close your eyes and leave your responsibilities by ignoring the facts.
Real face of MQM (Made by Dictator for his own agenda)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77_4ZTK_qCw
They are Government and they are “Supposed
November 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
@Ahmed Bhai
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Geo Braking news:
Mush: Army will soon hit militants hard
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Must be some American official coming for Mush to be offering human sacrifice again. Oh I forgot - John “Death Squad” Negroponte is due soon…
November 15th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Eerie resemblances in Pakistan’s dilemma
http://services.inquirer.net/print/print.php?article_id=101188
Americans have a funny term for it: “separated at birth.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Imran thrown into Lahore jail
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22767908-601,00.html?from=mostpop
FORMER Pakistan cricket captain Imran Khan was facing the prospect of a long prison term last night after being shifted from police custody to one of the country’s most notorious jails.
Mr Khan, 55, leader of the small Tehrik-in-Insaaf (Justice) party and an outspoken critic of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, was taken under heavy guard to the Kot Lakhpat jail on the outskirts of Lahore.
The move came as Attorney-General Malik Mohammad Qayyum announced last night General Musharraf would stand down as army chief before December 1.
General Musharraf and other officials had said he would wait for the Supreme Court to rule on the legality of his October 6 re-election as president before quitting the army.
Kot Lakhpat has for decades been one of Pakistan’s most feared jails and has frequently been used by military rulers to imprison their opponents. It was where former prime minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, father of opposition leader Benazir Bhutto, was incarcerated after he was overthrown by General Mohammed Zia-ul Haq.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Agar aik ship main
Musharaf
Nawaz shareef
Benazir
&
Shoukat Aziz
Bethay hon aur ship doob jae
tou ap ky kihyal mai kon bach jai ga??
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P A K I S T A N
November 15th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
http://express.com.pk/epaper/?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=FRONT_PAGE&Date=20071115&Pageno=1&View=1
Longlive IK, See the goonda-gardi of JI
November 15th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
suna hai imran khan ki kafi thukaai ki hai islami jamiat talba ney. sorry but imran have to pay because he is getting more CHANDA and qurbani ki KHAALAIN much more then jamiat.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
@nota:
In the link that you have mentioned above, I see the following statement from BB:
“I am talking to the other opposition parties to find out whether they are in a position to come together,” she said from her home in Lahore.
It is interesting that neither BB nor NS are in any hurry in taking any drastic steps to counter Mush.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Why doesn’t NS send Kulsoom or SS to Pakistan? So, what if they get arrested like the thousands of other.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Just when you think americans might be getting some sense (see “US ‘looking beyond’ Musharraf’s leadership” and “Knives out for Musharraf as US loosens ties” linked earlier) out comes this sh*t:
US hedges its bets on Musharraf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7093891.stm
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US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte is being sent to Pakistan later this week to try to defuse the crisis.
Yet, officials carry on issuing measured responses to the events in Pakistan, even arguing for patience towards the country’s military ruler.
“It’s a real fine dance,” says George Perkovich, a South Asia expert with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
In the coming days if it looks like Gen Musharraf is on his way out, the administration will distance itself from him - but if they feel he’s got another life they will try not to alienate him, he says.
“They will not take a firm position one way or another. It will be wishy-washy,” Mr Perkovich says.
Uncertainty
Analysts say Washington does not want to be in a situation where it walks away from Gen Musharraf and yet he holds on to power for, say, another nine months.
“What happens during that period if Washington still has to deal with him. It’s going to be a really ugly time,” says Daniel Markey, who until recently served on the state department’s policy planning staff.
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Marvin Weinbaum, former Pakistan analyst at the state department, says he would be amazed if the process hadn’t already begun.
“It’s almost inevitable that the military will come to the conclusion that Musharraf can’t be part of the new formula if normalcy has to be restored,” he says.
People’s will
In fact, over the past week, the administration’s emphasis has been more on the “will” of Pakistani people than the commitment to stand by Gen Musharraf.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
@Amir Hameed
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Why doesn’t NS send Kulsoom or SS to Pakistan? So, what if they get arrested like the thousands of other.
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Thanks for reminding me…Wasn’t Kulsoom talking tough saying she will be here in a couple of days when NS was deported. Later she changed it to “I will first go to UAE and be there in a few days.” That was then followed by “I will be there right after Ramazan.” Maybe now she is waiting for Muharram to pass…
November 15th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
well done jamiat, hehe they put imran back at his place.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Americans sound so much like BB/NS/Etc:
US hedges its bets on Musharraf
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7093891.stm
“They will not take a firm position one way or another. It will be wishy-washy”
November 15th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
@Amir Hameed
The problem is that they are not bold enough to take the right decisions at right time.
And our traditional politician is still not upto the mark at current pace of life. They will suffer, In Pakistan Electronic media has bring the people answerable to common man. They still have to face it once media & they are back in active politics.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Kot lakh put jail ,actually produces real leader . Now inshallah after king khan will appear from that well known jail ,be a bigest leader of all of those fake poiltician . point to be noted here is every fake leader , raising voice for emergency is out of jail and just facing very minor detanations .. only Imran khan and his party is being treated very badly . so unfortunately we should conclude that we have only one real and true voice for pakistan and all other are just waiting to increase their ” price” in this cahos . kia hur koi apni boli barhanay kay liay fake jaloos nikal rahay hain …
jeo Imran .
November 15th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
My point is that these so-called leaders are sitting in their palaces while others are facing the brunt in the country. These are opportunists who just want to become heads of the state or province without any personal sacrifices.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Mush k dhobi-patkey ney US ko confuse ker diyya hai. This credit goes to Mush……..
November 15th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
Take a look at the PML-N’s oficial web site:
http://www.pmln.org.pk/
There is a big heading titled “Nawaz welcomes Benazir’s statement”
But there is no condemnation on the way IK was treated and arrested. Mind you that NS owes most of his recent popularity to IK as it was the latter who kept insisting him to go to Pakistan after the SC verdict and NS became popular only after the deportation event.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
Want to see a M*R*N? Then see what Waqas Khattak has to say at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7087064.stm
Now why would BBC feature him on top of the page (covering the whole screen)? Scroll down and you see no one else supports that view. Certainly Asma Jehangir belonged at the top…
November 15th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
@Amir Hameed on November 15th, 2007 5:47 pm My point is that these so-called leaders are sitting in their palaces while others are facing the brunt in the country. These are opportunists who just want to become heads of the state or province without any personal sacrifices.
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But now their is a new court(Electronic Media) with Youtube is in place, tracking their each & every move & bringing them to the board. So this court never pends the cases, thatswhy they have to prepare their cases within limited amount of time. I love this new check on the people who gove