PROTEST at SEOUL, KOREA
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(16th Nov, 2007 Friday 0200 M)
Students from various universities of S.Korea gathered in seoul and demonstrated a protest infront of Pakistan Embassy.
Slogans againts emergency and in favour or judiciary were raised while protesting in a silent way as allowed by the local police.
* Pictures and Clips will be uploaded soon.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\11\16\story_16-11-2007_pg1_11
aaj tv back on, on condition that they dont air bolta pakistan and talat. Please if anyone could find and post the aaj tv mailing address.
We should all mail them saying we shall boycott their channel until those two programs are reinstated. Also let them know that if not reinstated we shall write to their various sponsors to stop their advertising. Please this is the least we can do for them as it is a matter of their livelihood and our unadulterated news that we have enjoyed thru this website….
admin please make the mailing address a sticky and make sure every one visiting this website mails he aaj people..
AAJ is pathetic without these 2 programs. Talat hussain is an intelligent anchor with relative objectivity. Alas the Aaj admn had its finances dearer than free press. sad sad
Without Peja (PJ Mir) and Jaidi (Javed Malik) ARY will fizzle out! There is so much you can earn from selling jewelery and gold in Dubai and then invest in a media empire too!
Long live Imran Khan.Shame on Gov .We are desperately waiting to see Shahid Masood,Hamid Mir,Kamran Khan,Talat Hussain,Kashif Abbasi on our television screens and please keep on going as u people did in the past plz dont lose your credibility.
I really don’t believe GEO is bleeding financially as they made tons of money running those “Parah Likha Punjab” and Mush ads non-stop for months. They can afford to hold out a while I am sure.
Personally I never watch ARY, I only watch Talat on Aaj (and sometimes that show with two journalists commenting on current events — sorry I forgot their names), and on Geo I only watch Dr. Shahid Masood’s and Hamid Mir’s shows. If none of these are there, then it really doesn’t matter if ARY, GEO, or AAJ are on air or not.
dr shahid masood is also out. Mush threatened to lodge treason case against GEO if dr shahid appears again on screen.
please contact GEO and dr shahid to give them full support.
BB in her latest press conference going on at the moment has said that she does NOT ACCEPT THE NEW CARETAKER GOVERNMENT AS IT IS AN EXTENSION OF PML Q.
She says she is trying to build up a coalition that would agree on an interim goverment that would oversee free and fair elections.
Pakistan : Are we 53rd State of USA?
It appears we are as Bush adminstration is directly issuing instructions to Pakistan Govt what to do and what not to do.
Musharraf : He is not only a dictator, but also is a man without moral who even to to the extent by getting women beat on the roads of Lahore. It is a shameful affair.
Benazeer : She and her people party are corrupt and want the ” Chair ” ( as her father described in 1977.
PPP is responsible for breaking up of Pakist an in 1972, BB was in power for 2 terms and during this period she stole US$1.2bn from Pakistan treasurt as quoted by musharrsf, has a deal with musharraf to play a major role in the drama being played by Musharraf.
The worst of the worst in the political scene of this country are the so called religious parties. Certainly, they religiously follow the path of self-interest and amoral conduct, willing to make a u-turn at the drop of a hat. The worst hypocrites in this game are Qazi and Fazlu. No wonder Imran has been betrayed time and again by these bearded monsters. And look at the mess they created in the one part of the country they ruled. Down with the Mullahs! Once and for all.
Unless BB takes a U-turn or settle for less, its clear that Mush must go now, well before end of Nov.
Interesting to see how VCOAS taking command and allowing Sc restoration as CJ hinted to call generals (from agencies) in “lapata loog” cases
Now I am feeling that everyone (political parties, media) will settle down for “less than best” and probably judges will become escape goat like AQ Khan
I just read on the Inasf website that Imran Khan’s three sisters were beaten and than arrested at Barket market Gulberg, Lahore.
They actually have an audio file uploaded where you can hear women screaming and police brutally beating them. I just dont understand, How can they do this to women doing a benign protest.
I wont be surprised if they even vacate Shukat Khanum and shut it down under Anti Terrorism act.
The political parties would lose their crediblity if they settle for less – and allow the judiciary to be sacked – no one can afford that now.
Sometimes the events take over the situations and people lose control over them.
Just imagine how the Imran arrest backfired on Jammat and IJT – it caused them a devastating blow and for the first time in history of Punjab University more than 4000 students got together which included many members of IJT and raised slogans against IJT.
All the newspapers in Pakistan has condemned the way IJT played the role and in fact it benefited Imran immensely.
So it is now nearly impossible if anyone can afford to let the rehabilitation of judiciary go away like that
BREAKING NEWS
Justice Abassi, Justice Buttar and Justice khokhar – SC PCO judges – have refused on sit on the bench which is to decide on emergency petitions of Iqbal Tikka.
So even lota judges are saying enough is enough – maybe they are also smelling the change
SC three Judges refuse to hear petitions against emergency
Updated at 1530 PST
ISLAMABAD: Supreme Court (SC)’s three Judges have refused to hear the petitions filed against the imposition of emergency in the country and, thereafter, the hearing of the case was adjourned until next Monday.
SC ten-member full court headed by the PCO Chief Justice, Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar was hearing the petitions filed against the emergency, when Justice Faqir Muhammad Khokhar in his remarks said that he could not hear the petitions against emergency, as the decision against the Supreme Judicial Council Bench, in which, he was a member, has the reference in the enforcement of emergency, while Justice Nawaz Abbasi in his remarks said that the enforcement of emergency also referred to Lal Masjid and we were also included in the Bench making decision for the opening of Masjid, therefore, Justice Javed Buttar and he also should not sit in this Bench.
Attorney General, Malik Qayyum present on this occasion said that the emergency matter was sensitive, if you do not sit in the Bench, then other Judges could also do so.
Following the refusal of the Judges, SC CJ heading the Bench adjourned the hearing until next Monday.
I am not worried about the conditions imposed by goverment on these channels because in any case Inshallah the goverment is going to fall down sooner than later – unless stabbed by MMA who are very very dubious –
FAzlu has said that he is ready to take part in elections under PCO – he wants to save nation.
MMA is loyal to Musharraf even more than PMLQ – they are wolf in sheep’s clothing
AAJ is going to lose heavily because of this one decison – people watch these channles not to watch dramas – they want news and objective current affairs.
there is a business model and its ok that current affair programs are popular yet all not all income generators. there is pie associated with other programs and corresponding advertisement revenue so i think the channels will overcome their financial problems
and hopefully soon Mush is over, all people will be back
I have seen this ugly face of I.J.T during my collge days when I was in F.C. College, Lahore. It was in early 1996 when B.B was the prime minister and corruption was at its peak. Mr. 10% and B.B both were looting with both hands. Pakistan was declared as the seond most corrupt nation in the world. At that time, I.J.T was as popular in F.C. College as it was in Punjab Univeristy. They used to explode fire crackers, threaten the teachers to bycott classes and force the students to move with them to Mansoora to stage protest. Now when Imran Khan came who has the true support of students, this really disturb I.J.T whose are now left with some support only in Punjab University, so they have shown the reality of their party. I believe that either its Imran or else they should not involve students in these shit activities and let them studies as I remember that How much the students of our session has to bear the loss during the days of turmoil.
The government allowed Aaj TV and Dawn News to go on air on Thursday, with certain conditions. However, sources said Aaj TV was allowed back on the condition that two of its talk shows – “Live With Talatâ€? and “Bolta Pakistanâ€? – would not be run. Aaj TV Director News Talat Hussain confirmed that the channel was back on air. “Any understanding between the employer and the government that will infringe on our editorial independence is unacceptable,â€? he said. “We will either resist or resign from our jobs,â€? he said
Those who will participate in these elections will be the B team of Musharaf.Fazlu seems to the part of that B team but hopefully all the other oposition parties will unite on one agenda which is ‘go mush go’and they will bycote the so called elections.
AAJ is on air since yesterday .I was waiting for ‘Live with Talat’ but they run a slide that ‘Live with Talat’ and ‘Bolta Pakistan’ are temporary closed for short time.
Sorry, false alarm. ALMOST all of the barriers have been lifted. All the police are gathered around her house and was told by a policeman BB is having a press conference and they are waiting for it to end…
@chussain
BB says that oath of caretaker goverment on PCO is nothing less than TREASON
Oh, for once BB and I agree By the same reasoning every public servant is a traitor but I would settle for Mush, NSC, his old and caretaker cabinet and PCO judges being CONVICTED of the offense…
The general pulls a fast one
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
KARACHI – A few days after President General Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency on November 10, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the secret service agency, met with leaders of the opposition parties to decide on a roadmap for a caretaker administration leading to general parliamentary elections in January and then to a post-election government.
The opposition parties, including the six-party religious alliance, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, and the ruling Pakistan Muslim
League, finalized a seat adjustment mechanism through which these leading parties would receive significant representation in the next government.
At the same time, the ISI had a separate meeting with the Pakistan People’s Party and assured its leader, Benazir Bhutto, that she would head a caretaker administration as prime minister.
As a result of these meetings, the opposition response to the declaration of the state of emergency was relatively muted – most reaction came from the legal profession, outraged at the sacking of Supreme Court judges, as well as the chief justice, and the suspension of the constitution.
But this week, the day that Pakistan finalized the details of a visit by US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, starting on Friday, it also announced an interim government – and without Bhutto. Mohammedmian Soomro, chairman of Pakistan’s Senate since 2003, was appointed interim prime minister to prepare for the parliamentary elections.
if this is true than BB has got a taste of her own medicine . she pulled a fast one with her party and opposition by getting into negotiations with the dictator.
I dont agree with this – it looks like this article has been written by ISI. BB would have never ever liked to become caretaker Prime Minister – why would she be – she would like to fight general elections – this is nothing but a wishful thinking.
Yes its true that ISI would have managed MMA and PML Q for seat to seat adjustment – that can be 100 percent true but about BB it is just a figement of imagination and disinformation.
If she had accepted to be caretaker Prime Minister she would have put the last nail in teh coffin of her political career. She can never ever afford that. It is simply unbeleivable that she would be so stupid to agree to this arrangment.
If you agree with my draft email below, please send to aajcomments@aaj.tv following agreement by Aaj to sign upto Pemra (Draconian) ordinance.
Dear editor
It was pleasant to note that Aaj TV was back on air. However i understand that this was only after signing the highly controversial Pemra ordinance. In addition i understand that you will not broadcast ‘live with talat’ and ‘bolta pakistan’.
It appears that you hace overlooked the interest of us, the viewers. Also, your actions will pave the way of killing the true journalism in Pakistan.
I have discontinued my Aaaj tv subscription from jumptv.com with immediate effect and will also not tune into your TV channel or even visit Aaj website until your actions are reversed.
You are right. ISI/CIA – what’s the difference? That is why I put the “note” about Shahzad in the end. Even before this new setup BB was making very strong statements against Mush so the idea of BB as interim PM is preposterous. I think Shahzad really let it slip in the last sentence quoted above.
As an ex-member of IJT, I would like to say that I am ashamed of what Jamiat did to Imran at the PU. I feel that this is a black spot on IJT’s identity, which has always been in the forefront of struggles against all dictators.
At the same time we must acknowledge that JI has come out very strongly to condemn IJT, there has been a suspension of 17 people already, and there is a spontaneous outpouring of support and concern for Imran from ex-IJT members, which is reflected in PTI website.
are we seeing the gradual extinction of the ray of hope?
the lawyers and media are heroes but will they be like tragic heroes?
These heroes are greater than of those who sacrificed for democracy in Europe. why? Because in the 17th/ 18th/ 19th century Europe the State was not as powerful as it is today. There was no USA to secretly support the dictators. Our heroes have struggeled against far more powerful State.
Alas! the real force has not come out – public…people…
no, there cannot be democracy until people come on the streets – at least once…
if masses are to be the source of power, they need to first show that they have this power…
perhaps our people are still not suppressed enough, exploited enough, looted enough…
or is that beacuse they believe in an afterlife, they always tolerate the suffering in this world with a hope that there will be justice in the other world…?
Is this the reason no Muslim country had a revolution for democracy?
But, perhaps we have, or are, only losing a battle not war….just like 1857 became a milestone…just like the struggle of Tipu Sultan became a milestone…but freedom came much later…
perhaps 2007 will also become a milestone and it will be remembered not as the year when hope was extinguished but when it was first created…
Oh so now he is under the guard of Farooq Leghari or his cousin Distt Nazim Maqsood Leghari, brother of Mansoor Leghari(who just returned to the country, thanks to the NRO) who is probably with BB right now campaigning for a PPP MPA ticket…
we in USA were able to see how imrans sisters were manhandled by male cops……
male cops pushed , shoved , dragged them on the street, and finally lifted them and threw them in the police van…..
shame on pakistan police…..
they are not just imrans sisters they are our sisters…is anyone bay ghairat enough to take this sitting down………
in habib jalibs words:
dartay hain bandouqoun walay
eik nehati larki say
would mushy like to see his sisters dragged on streets by cops? shame on mushy….
i failed to record it….if geo shows it again i will record it and post it….or if geo walas can post it themselves…..
according to harun rasheed (columnist) the women being arrested also included former ameer jamat e islami Mian Tufails daughters as well….another slap on jamiats face
Please send your cooments to AJJ Tv for not showing Talat online, and bolta pakistan in result of the deal they had with mush.
Shame on them
Email: aajcomments@aaj.tv
Forgot to mention on fact about D G Khan Distt Nazim Maqsood Leghari – I don’t remember which party he belongs to right now (since they change so often) but he won the election with the support of PML-Q AND with a deal with PML-N Punjab President Zulfiqar Khosa, who, like Farooq Leghari, used to be PPP. Maqsood and Mansoor also were with PPP but joined PML-Nawaz the night before Mush’s first coup. Talk about lousy timing…
So this is a microcosm of Pakitani politics today…
Imran Khan has been prisoned under anti terrorist act of PAKISTAN!!!!!
- If Speaking and Supporting of Independent Judicial system is AOT (act of terrorism), then we all are terrorists.
- If supporting the suppressed is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting for justice is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting against Dictatorship is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting for our Fundamental rights is AOT then we all are Terrorists.
- If Freedom of Speech is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
Imran is the only true representative of us, students, lawyers, rich, poor, women, children, and every true Pakistani. we will not stop supporting till we have last drop of blood in ourself, Insha Allah. May Allah (swt) give him strength and wisdom to lead us out of this turmoil. AAMIN
“General Pervez Musharraf imposed martial law in Pakistan on 3 November 2007. He suspended the constitution, sacked the chief justice of the Supreme Court and removed other judges of that court who declared his act illegal. Police immediately began arresting lawyers, politicians and human rights activists. Independent television channels were taken off the air and reporting restrictions imposed. Thousands have since been jailed, journalists threatened and protests by lawyers and others suppressed. Replacing dissenting judges with hand-picked appointees, and ruling by decree, Musharraf’s objective is to retain personal power by gaining judicial approval for martial law, followed by the creation of a democratic façade through rigged elections. The international community should demand the immediate restoration of constitutional order, the rule of law and the legitimate judiciary, the release of political prisoners and the appointment of an impartial caretaker government to oversee free and fair elections.”
It was pleasant to note that Aaj TV was back on air. However i understand that this was only after signing the highly controversial Pemra ordinance. In addition i understand that you will not broadcast ‘live with talat’ and ‘bolta pakistan’.
It appears that you hace overlooked the interest of us, the viewers. Also, your actions will pave the way of killing the true journalism in Pakistan.
I have discontinued my Aaaj tv subscription from jumptv.com with immediate effect and will also not tune into your TV channel or even visit Aaj website until your actions are reversed.
Americans must be rolling over with laughter, especially since these words came not from one-call Mush but from the from the mouth of lady killer Shauki …
Pakistan warns US it won’t be bossed around http://news.aaj.tv/news.php?pg=0&show=detail&nid=3
ISLAMABAD ( 2007-11-16 14:57:06 ) :
Outgoing premier Shaukat Aziz warned on Friday that Islamabad would not be bossed around as top US diplomat John Negroponte headed to Pakistan to press for an end to emergency rule.
@nota
This is exteremely disappointing. I saluted Javed Iqbal for his courage. But now I am feeling ashamed. This man has proved me twice wrong, first I kept writing about him that he is the pro-general judge and then when he did not took oath, I thought I was wrong about him and now when has accepted the job of PCP chairman I feel I was wrong again.
Now this guy gave a judgment , which has his signature saying that the PCO was illegal , unconstitutional and anybody taking orders this PCO will be committing an illegal. I can not believe that a person who has given such judgment can accept the notification of the government who is running under the PCO. He has committed a graver sin then I thought. I would consider Hameed Dogar at least only a criminal , but he is both hypocrite and a criminal.
Correction:
In the post “Imran shifted to Dera Ghazi Khan jail� above, read:
campaigning for a PPP MPA ticket…
as:
campaigning for a PPP MNA ticket…
why are we discussing these topics still?
Is writing not on the wall?
Tell me where is the hope? The opposition? The army coup? The US/UK? BB?
If we want to do anything, lets discuss how to create political awareness among the masses. How to help them see that it does matter if there is dictatoship or democracy? Help them realise that there is something called their Rights. Help them see that the army which they see as solution is actually the problem.
A tiny portion of politically aware lawyers and media is not enough….they can be crushed…
take this as the begiining of a long struggle…but we must start to concentrate on political education among masses..
@tipu
I agree with you….lets see the winter break starts soon…..can the students go out to the villages and spread political awareness in them… tell them not to vote for same old ppl…tell them to hold their reps accountable….. can you do that? if no then sit down with ur cup of tea….
dont know whether you wrote tounge in cheek…
but yes, this is one of the ways….
thsi is almost what had happened in Cuba,,,
but forget villages…cities are as much in need of political education…
look at Karachi…I noticed that on BBC and other places all almost all the Mush support comes from there…
and even on this forum…
perhaps we can start with our friends and families…
we talk about th situation…not just who is good and who is not…but talk about ideas..
make people see th meaning of RIGHTS, of having a say in their governanace, meaning of rule of law…
ajj tv ? from today its kaal tv and now you can watch the programs likes live with musharaf and bolta GHQ.and begam musharaf ali it would be fun thugh.
What Jamiat has done to Imran khan was completely disgusting it shows that we are living in country full of thugs. Being Sindhi, I have no sympathy to Banzir or any politicians in Pakistan but I am a great admirer of Imran Khan. I hope he is in good condition
I think this should be the next step to educate the common people.
Our first task should be to get rid of this martial law.
Surely we can blame political parties for keeping the common people ignorant of their rights etc. But in 60 years only one national assembly has completed its tenure (under the umbrella of army) and at the end they don’t wanna face common people. They need martial law once again.
This Gen P.M. has destroyed all the institutes. Judiciary was active for a couple of months in 60 years and it was unacceptable for all the mafias in Pakistan. We need at least twice free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power and it can make a difference.
@ tipu
when I said villages there are two reasons for that..
1. mushy claims, probably rightly so, that he has big support in villages. Why ? because the village ppl dont care about law, constitution, human rights etc…for them it is obeying the chuadhry that is imp…
2.as for cities, karachi in my eyes is no longer a part of pakistan as far as national politics is concerned. MQM made sure do dis-associate karachiites from rest of pakistan….why they support mushy? because he is a mohajir…that is the only reason… being an urdu speaking i know how racist we can be when it comes to other people( i am not mohajir as i never migrated…i am a urdu speaking punjabi)….
minus karachi if the rest of the cities can show their disgust at the events… bringing about a change atleast in the cities , then it may become a starting point….
You are right, we are realy passing thru a transition(not Mush fame transition). And as we have seen a big anti-jaamiat protest in PU(where literaly without the permission of Jamiat Goons Chiriyya bhi per nahi maar sakti). So We too are praying for IK, May Allah bless him & protect him from MQM&JI Goons. Ameen
I agree…
with TV now down…
perhaps Internet is the best way forward…
This website has now become even more important…
can we get more and more people involved in such e-communications?
And perhaps more such discissio groups can be opened…
especiall among the youth…INternet can be a great medium for political awareness…
I am a member of a yahoo group…and try to initiate political discussion there…Not very sucsessful…but th effort continues…
True, Pakistani nation can sell their mother for a small profit
We did so that yesterday, we let our police humiliate our nation’s great hero family and we were just watching TV
IK, please leave this bloody Pakistan, we can take it any more we don’t deserve you, why the hell you don’t understand. We are born to be ruled by tyrants.
Pakistan Tehree-e-Insaaf organized a black day today. For the consecutive second day, students at Punjab university in a big number protested in support of Imran Khan and against dictatorship of Musharraf and Jamait.
you’re right. May be my selection of words was not appropriate.
I think electronic media can play a vital role to create this awareness and exactly that’s the reason behind the blackout of media.
The electronic media of whole country if off air but the FM radio of Fazalullah is still working and Core Commander Pesahawar says that its technically difficult to block FM radion transmissions. On one side the import of dishes and receivers is banned but the army can’t block a FM radion because it suites them.
We understand the agony thru which you & me too are passing. I am proud on IK that hes initiated a new spirit in our youth, especially in our biggest & oldest Universuty, that was kidnapped by JI Goons. Don’t disheart man, its time to be persistant with what we can do in our capacities.
Zulm phir zulm hai bharta hai to mit jata hai.
Being an electric engineer I know its very simple to jam the FM transmission. The only thing one has to do is transmit noise on the same frequency with a higher power. FM reciever all the way accepts only the signals of higher rejecting the lower power.
And our forces has very good engineers too. Its just propaganda to fool a common man. nothing else.
I agree with you on the role of electronic meida in creating awareness & making public opinion visible. Hope we would be back on track very soon. InshAllah.
the Utube video is horrific….
bu here is an opportunity…
there are no bearded men of veiled women…
these are clearly educated, modern men and, particularly women, who are being beaten….
share this with our western frinds and, if possible, media….
our regime needs to be discredited in he eyes o western public…
Guys, don’t lose hope. I have just heard on Geo that PTI lahore president said that IK will return to PU to address the students once he is free. IK has said no matter what happens, he will not back down from mobilizing the youth and students.
As i always say, this is one Lion of Pakistan who doesnt know how to quite : ).
Jamiat/JI and MQM are the same. I understood that after closely looking at the leadership of Jamiat. They target urdu speaking community and tell them that they will be treated better once their PHILOSOPHY is imposed on everyone.
JI used to win most seats of Karachi, now MQM does. When MQM boycotted elections last time, JI won in Karachi, Not PML or PPP.
Disillusioned young guys are told that they are not being treated fairly and they need to rise up against the system (it is a smart way to use violence against others and support agencies).
Jamiat and MQM both have ‘Bhai culture’. They target the people who are not happy with their lives and need some EXTRA IDENTITY.
Both parties often have to co-operate with agencies because they have too many criminals to protect.
This factor will always keep Jamiat and MQM a Goonda force and never a proper mainstream party.
I fear for IK’s life…
he is the only one who can be a real alternative to the ‘easy to buy’ politicians…
and beacuse of this he must be the real future threat for the US’s interest in Pakistan…they might be thinking of him as the next Bhutto…
worst video footage i have ever seen. you are right educated normal women dragged and beaten by male police…. i literally have tears in my eyes hearing the screams of women….
I am so shameful of being a pakistani today and i dont have words to explain this. despite everything i have never uttered a bad word against army….and today after watching this i really dont have words to condemn them.
Mush and Cheap Minister of Punjab….. i wish there sisters and daughters are dragged like this?
This is a disgrace for all Pakistanis,for the mistreatment of Imran Khan and his Sisters. Unless we stand up and protest, the same will happen to our sisters, daughters and mothers…
US and others will definitely see IK as the most revolutionary leader after ZA Bhutto. But rest assured, they cannot take out IK as easily as they did with Bhutto. World Politics have changed a lot since then.
i used to (and still) hate MQM for their facist activities.
but for once i feel happy with them when i think that…… some years ago in Karachi they gave IJT same treatment as IJT are known for and what we saw in PU yesterday.
in addition they have very limited following and a very closed internal group. they will therefore never become mainstream political parties but stay as facist organisations
Everyone, I know most of you must have already heard Mush’s comments on Negroponte’s visit. But i would like to know your thoughts on it.
According to Geo, Mush has said that he will tell Negroponte that ‘sab se pehle pakistan’, in other words he will not list emergency and won’t listen to the US and his ‘good friend’ Bush.
So Mush is on a direct collision course with the US. US won’t like this. I like everyone else believe Mush’s days are numbered as he is already facing hostility inside Paksitan as well.
I think we should not spent to much time on negative thinking which can harm even us. So I should not go for any speculation about the fall of Mush. Its enough for us that positive force have done all this & our concern should be that no one highjack the efforts of sincere people.
Do spare more time on spreading the message of positive forces means everyone whos involved in the restoration of Judiciary, we should discuss them as much as possible, discuss any fruitful suggestions…
Now the people even the right wing journlists have disclosed the real face of MMA, And I would apperciate the efforts of IK for making an opinion, even MMA humiliated IK for his single seat at times at all platforms. But IK stuck to his principles & InshAllah his efforts will be fruitful. And we have a glimpse at PU rally in favor of IK on 2nd consecutive day. The ice has started melting…….
Agree with you bro. Just wanted to get others point of view.
As for IK, if anyone has benifitted by IJTs behaviur, its IK. In addition to his 1 seat, he has also been questioned a lot of times about his political history, i.e., he never went to jail, was never arressted for his political struggle etc. This one episode has answered every question his critics had : ). And now IK will rise higher than ever before in his political career.
Going to jail should not be considered as a standard for becoming a politician. Our MA Jinnah never went to Jail (at least I am not aware that he did) and he was one heck of a leader.
I agree. But i said that in the context of criticism that IK has recieved so far. I have heard many of his critics mentioning this point. So now they got their annwer. As for being a good leader, time and again IK has proven his leadership in sports, social and now in political sector.
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“Yesterday I dared to struggle. Today I dare to win.” — Bernadette Devlin
“If a thousand men were not to pay their tax-bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood. This is, in fact, the definition of a peaceable revolution, if any such is possible.” — Henry David Thoreau
“I have named the destroyers of nations: comfort, plenty, and security – out of which grow a bored and slothful cynicism, in which rebellion against the world as it is, and myself as I am, are submerged in listless self-satisfaction.” — John Steinbeck
“Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man’s original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion.” — Oscar Wilde
Ayaz Amir on Musharraf’s loss of control of English (Mush claims he cannot read Urdu because English is like his first language. This only happens to second language when someone is upset. Another lie by Mush). Please Read:
“Have you thought of (resigning)?� asks Sky News. The answer: “But should it be given up now and we will have better Pakistan, a stabler Pakistan and we could have very good elections, without me? Very good, maybe I take that decision, OK?� (No kidding, the very words.)
As the BBC Urdu Service’s Mohammad Hanif observes (in his hilarious “The case of Musharraf and the drunk uncle�), “Musharraf deserves our sympathy. Not because he has been forced to carry out a coup against his own regime, not because his troops are being kidnapped en masse by Pakistani Taliban and then awarded Rs500 for good behaviour, not because he himself has become a prisoner in his Army House and can’t even nip out for coffee and paan as he used to, but because he has utterly lost his grip over grammar.�
There is a simple solution on pakistan current situation, TO Kill Musharaf otherwise Pakistan will be killed.
This mean person will go same as General Zia.
@Nabeel
I am not sure how/where you got the idea that I am somehow a supporter of MQM. WTF cares about MQM. You are either new to these forums or do not pay attention to people’s responses carefully.
Pay attention to what you write or do your research before you wite it.
@farhan,
I have never doubted IK’s leadership and I have always responded to those people who have criticised IK for not getting arrested or going to jail with the same argument that he does not have to go to jail to prove his leadership and this is where I was coming from.
It was disturbing for me to see person like Ansar Burni joining Musharraf’s caretaker govt. Everybody knows Mr Burni’s profile and his services for humanity. After watching what mush has done with this country (particularly abuse of human rights), i am surprised how could such a person endorse musharraf at this time when he is politicaly the weakest. Musharraf has deceived the entire pakistani nation for personal gains. Mush and his aids have always tried to blend truth with bluff to play with this nation. Cooperating with Mush at this time is criminal, I am gravely disappointed at Mr. Burni’s act.
Dear Mr. Ansar Barni,
This letter might have harsh words for which let me apologize in advance. You will have to understand your act has forced me to write this letter and I am entitled to vent my anger at you as over the years you kept yourself protraying as human rights champion. Let me tell you honestly that our country is at such depths not only because of the dictators ruling over it for the last 60 years but also because of people like yourself who carry two faces to fool innocent people of this land of pure.
I am sure that you won’t vouchsafe to reply to this email, but let me tell you , your action of abetting the most ruthless dicatator of this country has brought you lower than the dictator himself in the eyes of people of Pakistan.
Please also me tell you please don’t try to justify your despicable act to anybody, at least be bold enough to say what a lahore judge said. “Mein tu moon kala kara aya hoon” , I have blakened my face.
@J A MALIK
you are 100% right I think we shld end all the philosophical /political discussion here and pray for what you have said…
all these ifs and buts are not gonna lead us nowhere…..the first and foremost priority for pakistan at the moment is the torturous death of this UGLY BASTARD MONSTER GENERAL BUSSHARRRAF…
suggetion: he shld be hanged till death..from his testicles…
I heard Justice Khawaja Muhammad Sharif , saying that a judge who had first agreed not to take oath under PCO , after taking oath told Justice Sharif this:
“Mein tay moon kala kara aya haan”
He said this in punjabi. I am glad that even those who are scumming to pressure realize that they are not doing anything good.
@J A MALIK
you are 100% right I think we shld end all the philosophical /political discussion here and pray for what you have said…
all these ifs and buts are not gonna lead us nowhere…..the first and foremost priority for pakistan at the moment is the torturous death of this UGLY MONSTER GENERAL suggetion: he shld be hanged till his… ..from his testicles…
Punjab Police and Karachi police are slaves of Chauhdaries and MQM respectively.
There are personal goons of both these parties inside police. In addition to that additional criminals can also come at special occasions to carry special tasks along police e.g. one done in video about Sisters of Imran Khan. They might come with police in two forms
1: They wear temporarily the uniforms of Police and carry their task. who cares? Our police so far is dead consciously.
2: they can complete tasks as plain clothed people along with police. who cares? Policemen just look here and there when these criminals torture people.
These goons are fed by Chauhdaries and MQM.
They go home after mission is over.
Normal policemen even can’t stop them since they could be beaten up by the goons or even could lose their jobs!!! But days are coming INSHALLAH when those police men who have little conscience will react and they they will react against these goons and their lords!!!
However, let me share one thing: If house of neighbor is at fire and we don’t extinguish this fire and think that it is not our business then that fire could reach to our home too…!!! Then should our neighbor help us???
What happened to these females in that video can happen to anyone if we thought that it is not our business to stop. How could a criminal stop if he finds no resistance???
It is true that educated people don’t like violence and we should not have it, but we can at least at least at least protest!!! We must stop those hands raised at innocent people.
News is that His Master Negroponte has contacted BB on telephone, any activity of Negroponte is important at this time. As this will tell what is the fate of mad General. At the moment it seems that mad general is in hot waters. He is getting more and more furstrated and BB is getting more and more vocal against him.
the way IK was arrested shows how stupid he is without knowing the consequences without having a proper plan
atleast he should consult with the leadership of IJI
probably he wants to take all the credit himself
fine fine fine he is a politician but still he can do better than that
look at NS Qazi sahab and others why are they sitting quietly
because they know the ground realities
they know what are their resources how far they can stretch
when to come out from their kameengahs
IK showed he is a khan cant sit in a hidding for long
like it or not but PPP will win the race
i m sure US is supporting her financially
she can spend lots of dollars in the villages for there support
so on
@Qutubb
Nice to hear you!
BTW, success in your dictionary means to hide, to cheat or make corruption and get cleaned, if it is so then you are right!
One must also come out for active role! If you think that if you go out you might get accident then sit at home for whole life!
One can never judge what will exactly happen in future, only Allah knows what is going to happen in future! I think sooner or later it was going to happen with Imran khan since he was in the eyes of establishment! However his act has not tarnished his image rather you can see his support.
At some point one has to stop thinking and act…so don’t try to discriminate one ethnicity like pathans.
I really don’t know who Ansar Burney is but a couple of years ago I happened upon his website and my first reaction was what a self-serving/self-promoting a**hole (see his news section, for example). The whole site is all promoting HIM — it’s all “Ansar Burney”, “Ansar Burney”, “Ansar Burney.”
And I never trust a person who displays even a single photo of himself with someone he thinks important, which is always an attempt to make himself look important. But his site is full of them.
Speaking of his news section, go see it once again. Here are some examples:
“Condoleezza Rice congratulates Ansar Burney on his declaration as International HERO”
and as if that was not good enough, this is too hilarious:
“United States of America declared Ansar Burney as International ‘HERO’:
The United States of America has declared the name of Mr Ansar Burney as International ‘HERO’ in the field of human rights. The United States of America has declared Mr Ansar Burney, Her Majesty Queen Silvia of Sweden, Pop Singer Ricky Martin and 8 others as ‘HEROES’ ”
The WHOLE of United States? Ricky Martin, too? Oh please. And those are not my capitalizations!
Please don’t fall for this kind of cr*p!
Or did “Ansar Burney met Ambassadors in Abu Dhabi” impress you too much?
Well, lets not be surprised if it is UAE government shutting it down for they are much bigger scum than our government and with increasing “economic interests” in Pakistan, they are bound to listen to Musharraf. Hasn’t he be giving them thousands of acres of prime property for free???
Geo news totally shut down in Pakistan. UAE government ordered to close Geo head-office and its transmission office in Dubai……due to Pakistani government pressure.
now they have decided to shut down for good because the main reason is that they are unable to cover their day-to-day expenses without having the required sponsors to pay the bills. The government shut down on the viewer-ship of the India-Pakistan cricket series was the last nail. I doubt if Pakistan Government has anything to do with the shut-down of HQ GEO in UAE.
Shahid Masood on Geo announcing that Geo News transmission from UAE will been closed indefinitely FROM today.
Hamid Mir is telling Shahid Masood that the government demanded:
1) Shahid Masood’s program be shut
2) Hamid Mir’s program be shut
3) Ansar Abbassi be fired from The News
4) Government to place new news anchors in Geo.
5) Geo refused to become another PTV and had to shut down
Well done Musharraf. What’s next? Will the 3 judges who refused to hear emergency petition be placed under house arrest? Or is another martial law on the way to weed out these 3 judges.
soon internet will be blocked or heavily censored.same thing with print media.people have been taken to stone age.news will be forecefed thru PTV.a dark dark time for pakistan
Geo TV being closed
Updated at 2320 PST
KARACHI: There are reports that the government of Pakistan is using its influence with a foreign country to get the Geo TV network closed down.
It should be noted that Geo news and its entire sister channels had been closed down across Pakistan after the imposition of emergency.
Earlier, the cable operators in Pakistan were forced to close all channels being operated by Geo Network and the Pakistani viewers were deprived of the great source of information. However, the Geo TV was on air from its Dubai office.
The latest developments are that the government of Pakistan has gone to the limit of seeking the closure of Geo News network across the globe through a country.
After this closure of Geo Network, the worldwide viewers would not be able to watch the great source of information worldwide.
It’s at times like these that I become even more determined and stronger of purpose!
F*ck y*u Mush. Geo will be back Inshallah and soon I will be p*ssing on your grave…
To all my pakistan/forign concerned brothers/sisters,
It is been decided to shut Geo completely!!
This is just another desprate attempt by the so called liberal government to hide truth from the people of Pakistan. Can’t express my worry, sorrow and dissapointment towards this decision and i hope the day the come when Geo will start its news again with the first one to announce the fall of Mushraf!
Quran says in And say in Surah Al Asra – chap 17 verse 81:
“Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
Now there is no doubt the Mush is gone, matter of days. Geo management is also business man and their resistance indicates what is going to happen next.
The Jamaat remains wedded to an ideology suspiciously close to fascism, (which makes one wonder about the uses to which Islam has been put in this country). From Gen Yahya onwards it has worked as a handmaiden of our spook agencies, the dark forces who have always undermined democracy. As a matter of policy its student wing has practiced unabashed violence to promote its political ends. Indeed, when the definitive history of the collapse of Pakistani education is written, the Jamiat’s ‘danda-bardar’ (baton-wielding) tactics will figure prominently in it.
Therefore any chastising of the Jamaat and its works is welcome. No one has educated the Jamaat and Jamiat more than the MQM. Indeed, about the only good thing the MQM has ever done, since its baptism at Zia’s hands in the mid-1980s, is to give the Jamaat a taste of its own medicine in Karachi. For this one service, if no other, the MQM is to be applauded.
This incident underscores an important lesson: that the religious parties, at least the two biggest — Qazi Hussein’s Jamaat and Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s JUI — can never be reliable partners in the struggle for democracy. They will always have an angle of their own and they will always be wired to the establishment.
PPP, PML-N, ANP, Tehrik-i-Insaf and the Baloch nationalists constitute the core of the dream alliance–the other elements of it being lawyers and civil society– which can still take Pakistan’s ship, now tossed about on stormy seas, to safer shores. The holy fathers have proved themselves to be beyond the pale. Let them stew in their own juice.
Why cannot they establish a network in UK because if Ahmediya or Qadianis are allowed to have their network in UK why not Geo. I am sure it would be very very popular in Uk and from here it can beam across and also on internet which Pakistan government cannot close.
this is such a joke. i cant believe the pakistani dictator is pressuring the UAE dictator to shut down an independant television channel and the UAE dictator complies. time to get rid of these puppets united under the orders of America. time for a revolution all over the Islamic world starting with Pakistan. the others will soon follow. victory to the mujahideen, victory for Islam
So WTF happened to Geo’s appeal that was pending in the SC/HC? The entire media should have taken the stand against the imposition of restriction. True they were suffering from financial losses but in the long run it would have been far better than the compromise.
Its really amazing that UAE can do this. given the fact its becoming hub of many businesses/ industry and its liberal policies, this would impact its global business positioning…
@traffic
UAE sheiks kidnapped our innocent kids for camel racings, they have almost finished the species eagles in our deserts. Women are summegled to them for their ayashee.
Who provide them these things? So one day the provider is pressurizing them for a favor.
This seems to be last nail in the coffin of mad dictator, the arrival of Negroponte and then his talk with BB, and the closure of GEO seems to be happening in a certain sequence.
lab pe aati hey is being played on geo. probably the last dua on GEO. salutations to geo. this network was not like other shameless networks. once again GEO.
I BELIEVE THAT TO CIRCUMVENT TEH BAN ON GEO AND OTHER NETWORKS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IS TO PUT THE VIDOES ON PKPOLITICS.COM AND ON YOUTUBE. THIS IS TEH BEST WAY TO COUNTER TEH PROBLEM
Where I live I could only watch GEO news , ARY ONE was close and merged with ARY digital channel few months back. Now GEO has gone too, therefore I just pressed 501 on my tv to see SKY news
Protests visibility did the final nailing of media.
So its very important for the guys who protest make vedios & upload on Youtube to send their messege……
this dictator has crossed all limits of beghairati. i pray that musharraf and sehba along with their children are dragged in the streets of islamabad, stripped naked and stoned to death by the public. people should realise that until they take up arms against this army and police, they will stay under occupation of these hijras. they suck our blood and money and then use it to oppress and kill us.
i pray that people all over pakistan take up arms against this army and police, just like our brave brothers have done in waziristan and swat. we should demand an end to this tyranny which has been going on for 60 years now. Islam is the only solution for us, i hope the mujahideen reach Islamabad soon and end this bullsh*t once and for all. that way we just might get the chance to hang musharraf publicly in the streets of islamabad. all politicians r two-faced b*stards, all power-hungry corrupt sell-outs. we should be looking towards the mujahideen now, not the politicians. this regime only understands the language of force, look how this p*ssy army is surrendering by the hundreds in waziristan. may Allah help the mujahideen in bringing these criminals to justice for all that they have done in the last 8 years, which has reached its limit now. ameen
My SALUTE to Geo and ARY for taking the stand and not compromising on their principles. This fascist government is going to go down soon and no one can stop it from falling.
@Traffic
By voilation we would spoil the efforts made by Judges lawyers students IK…….
This is the time we would not loose our temprament we should follow the peaceful protests as all the above did.
They did it peacefuly………..
Make vidoes of the protest and make CDs and distribute them. Musharraf has challenged the nation as a whole and we have to tell him that we would not be cowed down at all.
These Arab biddus are f*****g b*s***d*. They always show loyalties to individuals but not to the individuals. They came to save NS back in 2000; the government of Saudi Arabia had recently asked the current Pakistani government to release general Hamid Gul because they had personal relationship with them and now this. What about standing up for the masses of Pakistan. Once this turmoil is over and inshallah the civil society will emerge victorious, the behavior of these countries should be dealt with appropriately.
I am at a loss. I don’t know what to do with the searing pain and rage inside me. This regime can not go any lower than this. Dear fellows, lets just vow our eternal allegiance to the people of Pakistan. Let us vow to bring this regime to its knees.
1. Social boycott of police and more importantly Army members among our friends and family.
2. Spread the message to our circles and convince them to do the same.
3. Boycot of all the products produced by Fauji Foundation and its subsidiaries, including among others the ASKARI brand.
4. Commit ourselves to cut this army to size by campaigning against it’s non-military activities at every forum.
5. Demand of the Western countries to stop AID to military. Trust me, no one is going to attack us and get entangled in the mess that we are in. The AID is only filling the accounts of the generals.
6. Develop networks among your colleagues and friends on a single point agenda of cutting this military to its size. Everything follows thereafter.
Let’s nip the evil in the bud before its too late. Let’s do something more meaningful with all our limitations. Let’s stop these hands before they reach our homes.
i remember one of the pieces i read some time back about Nazis. I don’t remember exactly but it goes like this.
First they came for the communists. I was not a communist. Then they came for the Jews. I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one to stand for me.
admin this is a request to start a round 2 of protests through pkunited.this time bigger and louder.all pakistanis should come out of their houses now no matter where you live
PROTEST at SEOUL, KOREA
———————–
(16th Nov, 2007 Friday 0200 M)
Students from various universities of S.Korea gathered in seoul and demonstrated a protest infront of Pakistan Embassy.
Slogans againts emergency and in favour or judiciary were raised while protesting in a silent way as allowed by the local police.
* Pictures and Clips will be uploaded soon.
…and look what our univ students did to Imran Khan…disgusting!!! Down with Ja-me-att!
some famous ex-jamtias now in govt…actually not as of today
muhammad ali Durrani (information minister)
Shaikh Rasheed(railway minister)
no wonder jamiat supports the govt
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/nov2007-daily/16-11-2007/col9.htm
can anybody refer me to ant statment from
PMLN on pu incident
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\11\16\story_16-11-2007_pg1_11
aaj tv back on, on condition that they dont air bolta pakistan and talat. Please if anyone could find and post the aaj tv mailing address.
We should all mail them saying we shall boycott their channel until those two programs are reinstated. Also let them know that if not reinstated we shall write to their various sponsors to stop their advertising. Please this is the least we can do for them as it is a matter of their livelihood and our unadulterated news that we have enjoyed thru this website….
admin please make the mailing address a sticky and make sure every one visiting this website mails he aaj people..
AAJ is pathetic without these 2 programs. Talat hussain is an intelligent anchor with relative objectivity. Alas the Aaj admn had its finances dearer than free press. sad sad
you want us to watch PJ Mir? or Peja TV oh sorry PTV
Soon GEO TV will be without… HAMID MIR alias phappay kutni!& IFTIKHAR alias munh phaat!
GEO is already bleeding financially and will soon fall in line to AAJ and DAWN.
When money talks, objectivity takes a hike. Media in Pakistan has learned a global lesson.
Sorry forgot to add……
Without Peja (PJ Mir) and Jaidi (Javed Malik) ARY will fizzle out! There is so much you can earn from selling jewelery and gold in Dubai and then invest in a media empire too!
Nice article by Ayyaz Amir
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
This country was came in being in the name of Islam and now in which direction we are going?
Iss daur main may aur hai, jaam aur hai, jum aur
Saaqi ne bina ki rawish-e-lutf-o-sitam aur
Muslim nai bhi ta’ameer kia, apna harum aur
Tahzeeb ke azar ne trishwai sanam aur
In taza khudaon main baRa sab se watan hai
Jo pairhan iss ka hai, woh mazhab ka kafan hai
Yeh but keh tarasheeda-e-tahzeeb-i-navi hai
Gharat gar-e-khashan-e-deen-i-nabawi hai
Baazu tira tawheed ki quwwat se qawi hai
Islam tira dais he, tu Mustafawi hai!
Nazzara-e-deerana zamanay ko dikha dai
Ai Mustafawi, khaak main iss but to mila dai
@Zufi
They did have a statement yesterday in Dawn…see http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/15/nat12.htm
Interesting last paragraph:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1684532,00.html
Long live Imran Khan.Shame on Gov .We are desperately waiting to see Shahid Masood,Hamid Mir,Kamran Khan,Talat Hussain,Kashif Abbasi on our television screens and please keep on going as u people did in the past plz dont lose your credibility.
Please watch tribute to students and lawyers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv7YdFVe2Is
and please sign protest at http://www.BoltaPakistan.com
I really don’t believe GEO is bleeding financially as they made tons of money running those “Parah Likha Punjab” and Mush ads non-stop for months. They can afford to hold out a while I am sure.
Personally I never watch ARY, I only watch Talat on Aaj (and sometimes that show with two journalists commenting on current events — sorry I forgot their names), and on Geo I only watch Dr. Shahid Masood’s and Hamid Mir’s shows. If none of these are there, then it really doesn’t matter if ARY, GEO, or AAJ are on air or not.
dr shahid masood is also out. Mush threatened to lodge treason case against GEO if dr shahid appears again on screen.
please contact GEO and dr shahid to give them full support.
BB in her latest press conference going on at the moment has said that she does NOT ACCEPT THE NEW CARETAKER GOVERNMENT AS IT IS AN EXTENSION OF PML Q.
She says she is trying to build up a coalition that would agree on an interim goverment that would oversee free and fair elections.
Another good article including mention of Imran incident.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=80951
An article from Guardian, harbinging good news of probable demise of Musharraf (ameen)
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=80952
There are three issues:
Pakistan : Are we 53rd State of USA?
It appears we are as Bush adminstration is directly issuing instructions to Pakistan Govt what to do and what not to do.
Musharraf : He is not only a dictator, but also is a man without moral who even to to the extent by getting women beat on the roads of Lahore. It is a shameful affair.
Benazeer : She and her people party are corrupt and want the ” Chair ” ( as her father described in 1977.
PPP is responsible for breaking up of Pakist an in 1972, BB was in power for 2 terms and during this period she stole US$1.2bn from Pakistan treasurt as quoted by musharrsf, has a deal with musharraf to play a major role in the drama being played by Musharraf.
The worst of the worst in the political scene of this country are the so called religious parties. Certainly, they religiously follow the path of self-interest and amoral conduct, willing to make a u-turn at the drop of a hat. The worst hypocrites in this game are Qazi and Fazlu. No wonder Imran has been betrayed time and again by these bearded monsters. And look at the mess they created in the one part of the country they ruled. Down with the Mullahs! Once and for all.
Unless BB takes a U-turn or settle for less, its clear that Mush must go now, well before end of Nov.
Interesting to see how VCOAS taking command and allowing Sc restoration as CJ hinted to call generals (from agencies) in “lapata loog” cases
Now I am feeling that everyone (political parties, media) will settle down for “less than best” and probably judges will become escape goat like AQ Khan
who cares about awam… May my fear prove wrong
BB is freed again. Negaponte makes it.
http://www.brecorder.com/latestindex.php?latest_id=5750&cindex=00¤t_page=1
I just read on the Inasf website that Imran Khan’s three sisters were beaten and than arrested at Barket market Gulberg, Lahore.
They actually have an audio file uploaded where you can hear women screaming and police brutally beating them. I just dont understand, How can they do this to women doing a benign protest.
I wont be surprised if they even vacate Shukat Khanum and shut it down under Anti Terrorism act.
The political parties would lose their crediblity if they settle for less – and allow the judiciary to be sacked – no one can afford that now.
Sometimes the events take over the situations and people lose control over them.
Just imagine how the Imran arrest backfired on Jammat and IJT – it caused them a devastating blow and for the first time in history of Punjab University more than 4000 students got together which included many members of IJT and raised slogans against IJT.
All the newspapers in Pakistan has condemned the way IJT played the role and in fact it benefited Imran immensely.
So it is now nearly impossible if anyone can afford to let the rehabilitation of judiciary go away like that
BREAKING NEWS
Justice Abassi, Justice Buttar and Justice khokhar – SC PCO judges – have refused on sit on the bench which is to decide on emergency petitions of Iqbal Tikka.
So even lota judges are saying enough is enough – maybe they are also smelling the change
BB says that oath of caretaker goverment on PCO is nothing less than TREASON
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/11/071116_bb_lahore.shtml
@ chussain
good news. where was it? i am watching geo. nothing there
Geo was showing in its newsreel.
Maybe GEO will come On Air very soon after some conditions from government like they did with Aaj Tv and Dawn.
Indeed. AAJ owners have certainly given in.
“Live with Talat” and “Bolta Pakistan” not to be aired.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\11\16\story_16-11-2007_pg1_11
SC three Judges refuse to hear petitions against emergency
Updated at 1530 PST
ISLAMABAD: Supreme Court (SC)’s three Judges have refused to hear the petitions filed against the imposition of emergency in the country and, thereafter, the hearing of the case was adjourned until next Monday.
SC ten-member full court headed by the PCO Chief Justice, Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar was hearing the petitions filed against the emergency, when Justice Faqir Muhammad Khokhar in his remarks said that he could not hear the petitions against emergency, as the decision against the Supreme Judicial Council Bench, in which, he was a member, has the reference in the enforcement of emergency, while Justice Nawaz Abbasi in his remarks said that the enforcement of emergency also referred to Lal Masjid and we were also included in the Bench making decision for the opening of Masjid, therefore, Justice Javed Buttar and he also should not sit in this Bench.
Attorney General, Malik Qayyum present on this occasion said that the emergency matter was sensitive, if you do not sit in the Bench, then other Judges could also do so.
Following the refusal of the Judges, SC CJ heading the Bench adjourned the hearing until next Monday.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32343
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32343
This is about the news of three judges saying they cannot hear petitions against emergency rule
to which channel do you think Talat will be going?
I am not worried about the conditions imposed by goverment on these channels because in any case Inshallah the goverment is going to fall down sooner than later – unless stabbed by MMA who are very very dubious –
FAzlu has said that he is ready to take part in elections under PCO – he wants to save nation.
MMA is loyal to Musharraf even more than PMLQ – they are wolf in sheep’s clothing
AAJ is going to lose heavily because of this one decison – people watch these channles not to watch dramas – they want news and objective current affairs.
there is a business model and its ok that current affair programs are popular yet all not all income generators. there is pie associated with other programs and corresponding advertisement revenue so i think the channels will overcome their financial problems
and hopefully soon Mush is over, all people will be back
Benazir has certainly left town as 10 minutes ago all police jumped with joy and hurriedly removed the barriers and left…
I have seen this ugly face of I.J.T during my collge days when I was in F.C. College, Lahore. It was in early 1996 when B.B was the prime minister and corruption was at its peak. Mr. 10% and B.B both were looting with both hands. Pakistan was declared as the seond most corrupt nation in the world. At that time, I.J.T was as popular in F.C. College as it was in Punjab Univeristy. They used to explode fire crackers, threaten the teachers to bycott classes and force the students to move with them to Mansoora to stage protest. Now when Imran Khan came who has the true support of students, this really disturb I.J.T whose are now left with some support only in Punjab University, so they have shown the reality of their party. I believe that either its Imran or else they should not involve students in these shit activities and let them studies as I remember that How much the students of our session has to bear the loss during the days of turmoil.
The government allowed Aaj TV and Dawn News to go on air on Thursday, with certain conditions. However, sources said Aaj TV was allowed back on the condition that two of its talk shows – “Live With Talatâ€? and “Bolta Pakistanâ€? – would not be run. Aaj TV Director News Talat Hussain confirmed that the channel was back on air. “Any understanding between the employer and the government that will infringe on our editorial independence is unacceptable,â€? he said. “We will either resist or resign from our jobs,â€? he said
Those who will participate in these elections will be the B team of Musharaf.Fazlu seems to the part of that B team but hopefully all the other oposition parties will unite on one agenda which is ‘go mush go’and they will bycote the so called elections.
All the MMA leaders (Qazi, Munawar Hassan etc) who were under house arrest have been set free.
AAJ is on air since yesterday .I was waiting for ‘Live with Talat’ but they run a slide that ‘Live with Talat’ and ‘Bolta Pakistan’ are temporary closed for short time.
Sorry, false alarm. ALMOST all of the barriers have been lifted. All the police are gathered around her house and was told by a policeman BB is having a press conference and they are waiting for it to end…
@chussain
BB says that oath of caretaker goverment on PCO is nothing less than TREASON
Oh, for once BB and I agree
By the same reasoning every public servant is a traitor but I would settle for Mush, NSC, his old and caretaker cabinet and PCO judges being CONVICTED of the offense…
MMA are being released as a reward for handing over Imran Khan and to sabotage the movement against Musharraf
Is this why BB is screaming?
The general pulls a fast one
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
KARACHI – A few days after President General Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency on November 10, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the secret service agency, met with leaders of the opposition parties to decide on a roadmap for a caretaker administration leading to general parliamentary elections in January and then to a post-election government.
The opposition parties, including the six-party religious alliance, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal, and the ruling Pakistan Muslim
League, finalized a seat adjustment mechanism through which these leading parties would receive significant representation in the next government.
At the same time, the ISI had a separate meeting with the Pakistan People’s Party and assured its leader, Benazir Bhutto, that she would head a caretaker administration as prime minister.
As a result of these meetings, the opposition response to the declaration of the state of emergency was relatively muted – most reaction came from the legal profession, outraged at the sacking of Supreme Court judges, as well as the chief justice, and the suspension of the constitution.
But this week, the day that Pakistan finalized the details of a visit by US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, starting on Friday, it also announced an interim government – and without Bhutto. Mohammedmian Soomro, chairman of Pakistan’s Senate since 2003, was appointed interim prime minister to prepare for the parliamentary elections.
more at http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IK17Df04.html
Is this why BB is scr*aming?
The general pulls a fast one
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
more at http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IK17Df04.html
Last sentence of the above article:
“Either way, Negroponte knows that he will be dealing with Musharraf, who for now has effectively sidelined the opposition.”
Note: This guy (Shehzad) is believed by some to be the mouth piece for the CIA.
@ nota
if this is true than BB has got a taste of her own medicine
. she pulled a fast one with her party and opposition by getting into negotiations with the dictator.
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I dont agree with this – it looks like this article has been written by ISI. BB would have never ever liked to become caretaker Prime Minister – why would she be – she would like to fight general elections – this is nothing but a wishful thinking.
Yes its true that ISI would have managed MMA and PML Q for seat to seat adjustment – that can be 100 percent true but about BB it is just a figement of imagination and disinformation.
If she had accepted to be caretaker Prime Minister she would have put the last nail in teh coffin of her political career. She can never ever afford that. It is simply unbeleivable that she would be so stupid to agree to this arrangment.
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oh does it say BB being caretaker PM. i thought it says making caretaker govt. with PPPPs advice. Sorry, i think i misunderstood the premises
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Date: Saturday, November 17th
Time: 2:00 PM
Please join to protest suspension of Constitution, Judiciary and Media in our beloved Pakistan.
@chussain
You are right. ISI/CIA – what’s the difference? That is why I put the “note” about Shahzad in the end. Even before this new setup BB was making very strong statements against Mush so the idea of BB as interim PM is preposterous. I think Shahzad really let it slip in the last sentence quoted above.
As an ex-member of IJT, I would like to say that I am ashamed of what Jamiat did to Imran at the PU. I feel that this is a black spot on IJT’s identity, which has always been in the forefront of struggles against all dictators.
At the same time we must acknowledge that JI has come out very strongly to condemn IJT, there has been a suspension of 17 people already, and there is a spontaneous outpouring of support and concern for Imran from ex-IJT members, which is reflected in PTI website.
are we seeing the gradual extinction of the ray of hope?
the lawyers and media are heroes but will they be like tragic heroes?
These heroes are greater than of those who sacrificed for democracy in Europe. why? Because in the 17th/ 18th/ 19th century Europe the State was not as powerful as it is today. There was no USA to secretly support the dictators. Our heroes have struggeled against far more powerful State.
Alas! the real force has not come out – public…people…
no, there cannot be democracy until people come on the streets – at least once…
if masses are to be the source of power, they need to first show that they have this power…
perhaps our people are still not suppressed enough, exploited enough, looted enough…
or is that beacuse they believe in an afterlife, they always tolerate the suffering in this world with a hope that there will be justice in the other world…?
Is this the reason no Muslim country had a revolution for democracy?
But, perhaps we have, or are, only losing a battle not war….just like 1857 became a milestone…just like the struggle of Tipu Sultan became a milestone…but freedom came much later…
perhaps 2007 will also become a milestone and it will be remembered not as the year when hope was extinguished but when it was first created…
I hope…
Tipu
“Imran shifted to Dera Ghazi Khan jail”
Oh so now he is under the guard of Farooq Leghari or his cousin Distt Nazim Maqsood Leghari, brother of Mansoor Leghari(who just returned to the country, thanks to the NRO) who is probably with BB right now campaigning for a PPP MPA ticket…
we in USA were able to see how imrans sisters were manhandled by male cops……
male cops pushed , shoved , dragged them on the street, and finally lifted them and threw them in the police van…..
shame on pakistan police…..
they are not just imrans sisters they are our sisters…is anyone bay ghairat enough to take this sitting down………
in habib jalibs words:
dartay hain bandouqoun walay
eik nehati larki say
would mushy like to see his sisters dragged on streets by cops? shame on mushy….
i failed to record it….if geo shows it again i will record it and post it….or if geo walas can post it themselves…..
according to harun rasheed (columnist) the women being arrested also included former ameer jamat e islami Mian Tufails daughters as well….another slap on jamiats face
Imran Khan – Pakistan’s Future
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2572&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Man, this is sad…Of all the people, at least don’t l*ck Durrani’s boot’s:
Chairman PCP Javed Iqbal calls on Minister Durrani
http://www.app.com.pk/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20987&Itemid=2
Please send your cooments to AJJ Tv for not showing Talat online, and bolta pakistan in result of the deal they had with mush.
Shame on them
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Forgot to mention on fact about D G Khan Distt Nazim Maqsood Leghari – I don’t remember which party he belongs to right now (since they change so often) but he won the election with the support of PML-Q AND with a deal with PML-N Punjab President Zulfiqar Khosa, who, like Farooq Leghari, used to be PPP. Maqsood and Mansoor also were with PPP but joined PML-Nawaz the night before Mush’s first coup. Talk about lousy timing…
So this is a microcosm of Pakitani politics today…
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Imran Khan has been prisoned under anti terrorist act of PAKISTAN!!!!!
- If Speaking and Supporting of Independent Judicial system is AOT (act of terrorism), then we all are terrorists.
- If supporting the suppressed is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting for justice is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting against Dictatorship is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
- If fighting for our Fundamental rights is AOT then we all are Terrorists.
- If Freedom of Speech is AOT, then we all are terrorists.
Imran is the only true representative of us, students, lawyers, rich, poor, women, children, and every true Pakistani. we will not stop supporting till we have last drop of blood in ourself, Insha Allah. May Allah (swt) give him strength and wisdom to lead us out of this turmoil. AAMIN
Winding Back Martial Law in Pakistan: ICG Report
Download complete report in pdf from http://www.crisisgroup.org/library/documents/asia/south_asia/b70_winding_back_martial_law_in_pakistan.pdf
“General Pervez Musharraf imposed martial law in Pakistan on 3 November 2007. He suspended the constitution, sacked the chief justice of the Supreme Court and removed other judges of that court who declared his act illegal. Police immediately began arresting lawyers, politicians and human rights activists. Independent television channels were taken off the air and reporting restrictions imposed. Thousands have since been jailed, journalists threatened and protests by lawyers and others suppressed. Replacing dissenting judges with hand-picked appointees, and ruling by decree, Musharraf’s objective is to retain personal power by gaining judicial approval for martial law, followed by the creation of a democratic façade through rigged elections. The international community should demand the immediate restoration of constitutional order, the rule of law and the legitimate judiciary, the release of political prisoners and the appointment of an impartial caretaker government to oversee free and fair elections.”
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Dear editor
It was pleasant to note that Aaj TV was back on air. However i understand that this was only after signing the highly controversial Pemra ordinance. In addition i understand that you will not broadcast ‘live with talat’ and ‘bolta pakistan’.
It appears that you hace overlooked the interest of us, the viewers. Also, your actions will pave the way of killing the true journalism in Pakistan.
I have discontinued my Aaaj tv subscription from jumptv.com with immediate effect and will also not tune into your TV channel or even visit Aaj website until your actions are reversed.
Americans must be rolling over with laughter, especially since these words came not from one-call Mush but from the from the mouth of lady killer Shauki …
Pakistan warns US it won’t be bossed around
http://news.aaj.tv/news.php?pg=0&show=detail&nid=3
ISLAMABAD ( 2007-11-16 14:57:06 ) :
Outgoing premier Shaukat Aziz warned on Friday that Islamabad would not be bossed around as top US diplomat John Negroponte headed to Pakistan to press for an end to emergency rule.
@nota
This is exteremely disappointing. I saluted Javed Iqbal for his courage. But now I am feeling ashamed. This man has proved me twice wrong, first I kept writing about him that he is the pro-general judge and then when he did not took oath, I thought I was wrong about him and now when has accepted the job of PCP chairman I feel I was wrong again.
Now this guy gave a judgment , which has his signature saying that the PCO was illegal , unconstitutional and anybody taking orders this PCO will be committing an illegal. I can not believe that a person who has given such judgment can accept the notification of the government who is running under the PCO. He has committed a graver sin then I thought. I would consider Hameed Dogar at least only a criminal , but he is both hypocrite and a criminal.
Correction:
In the post “Imran shifted to Dera Ghazi Khan jail� above, read:
campaigning for a PPP MPA ticket…
as:
campaigning for a PPP MNA ticket…
Friends any new about His Master Negroponte ? Has he arrived in Pakistan? whom he is meeting ?
According to AP he has arrived but “his schedule is uncertain.”
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=7370178
why are we discussing these topics still?
Is writing not on the wall?
Tell me where is the hope? The opposition? The army coup? The US/UK? BB?
If we want to do anything, lets discuss how to create political awareness among the masses. How to help them see that it does matter if there is dictatoship or democracy? Help them realise that there is something called their Rights. Help them see that the army which they see as solution is actually the problem.
A tiny portion of politically aware lawyers and media is not enough….they can be crushed…
take this as the begiining of a long struggle…but we must start to concentrate on political education among masses..
Tipu
@tipu
I agree with you….lets see the winter break starts soon…..can the students go out to the villages and spread political awareness in them… tell them not to vote for same old ppl…tell them to hold their reps accountable….. can you do that? if no then sit down with ur cup of tea….
@zsaroah
dont know whether you wrote tounge in cheek…
but yes, this is one of the ways….
thsi is almost what had happened in Cuba,,,
but forget villages…cities are as much in need of political education…
look at Karachi…I noticed that on BBC and other places all almost all the Mush support comes from there…
and even on this forum…
perhaps we can start with our friends and families…
we talk about th situation…not just who is good and who is not…but talk about ideas..
make people see th meaning of RIGHTS, of having a say in their governanace, meaning of rule of law…
Tipu
http://express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=Editorial_PAGE&Date=20071116&Pageno=12&View=1%20id=
Thought provoking columns for people who believe in politics of power by Javed Chaudhry & Haroon Rasheed.
Please read it some very good gournalists.
Fazlu asks US for the restoration of of democracy.
When somebody asked Fazlu, But what you are doing, he replied, “Halwey ka intizam”
ajj tv ? from today its kaal tv and now you can watch the programs likes live with musharaf and bolta GHQ.and begam musharaf ali it would be fun thugh.
@tipu
the minimum people can do is to strongly protest at the way imrans sisters were manhandled…
3 Judges rfused the hearing.
Yesterday ISI blacmailed the Judges.
Today Judges are blackmaing ISI.
six-nine at its best, aaj hi daikhiye SC Vs ISI.
What Jamiat has done to Imran khan was completely disgusting it shows that we are living in country full of thugs. Being Sindhi, I have no sympathy to Banzir or any politicians in Pakistan but I am a great admirer of Imran Khan. I hope he is in good condition
@Tipu
I think this should be the next step to educate the common people.
Our first task should be to get rid of this martial law.
Surely we can blame political parties for keeping the common people ignorant of their rights etc. But in 60 years only one national assembly has completed its tenure (under the umbrella of army) and at the end they don’t wanna face common people. They need martial law once again.
This Gen P.M. has destroyed all the institutes. Judiciary was active for a couple of months in 60 years and it was unacceptable for all the mafias in Pakistan. We need at least twice free and fair elections and a peaceful transfer of power and it can make a difference.
iShah
@ tipu
when I said villages there are two reasons for that..
1. mushy claims, probably rightly so, that he has big support in villages. Why ? because the village ppl dont care about law, constitution, human rights etc…for them it is obeying the chuadhry that is imp…
2.as for cities, karachi in my eyes is no longer a part of pakistan as far as national politics is concerned. MQM made sure do dis-associate karachiites from rest of pakistan….why they support mushy? because he is a mohajir…that is the only reason… being an urdu speaking i know how racist we can be when it comes to other people( i am not mohajir as i never migrated…i am a urdu speaking punjabi)….
minus karachi if the rest of the cities can show their disgust at the events… bringing about a change atleast in the cities , then it may become a starting point….
@Soomro
You are right, we are realy passing thru a transition(not Mush fame transition). And as we have seen a big anti-jaamiat protest in PU(where literaly without the permission of Jamiat Goons Chiriyya bhi per nahi maar sakti). So We too are praying for IK, May Allah bless him & protect him from MQM&JI Goons. Ameen
I agree…
with TV now down…
perhaps Internet is the best way forward…
This website has now become even more important…
can we get more and more people involved in such e-communications?
And perhaps more such discissio groups can be opened…
especiall among the youth…INternet can be a great medium for political awareness…
I am a member of a yahoo group…and try to initiate political discussion there…Not very sucsessful…but th effort continues…
Tipu
@iShah
Guys here we are mixing two things education & awareness.
And we should use the word awareness instead of education. Because even our educated class has no awareness.
And we need to create awareness both in cities as well as villages.
In cities most importantly Karachi & in villages most importantly southern pujab, Frontoier , Balochistan & Sind.
In krachi people are educated but without awareness.
So insist on awareness instead of education…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kc_yrgaYTxU
Torture on IK family
Enough is enough
True, Pakistani nation can sell their mother for a small profit
We did so that yesterday, we let our police humiliate our nation’s great hero family and we were just watching TV
IK, please leave this bloody Pakistan, we can take it any more we don’t deserve you, why the hell you don’t understand. We are born to be ruled by tyrants.
Pakistan Tehree-e-Insaaf organized a black day today. For the consecutive second day, students at Punjab university in a big number protested in support of Imran Khan and against dictatorship of Musharraf and Jamait.
@Asif
you’re right. May be my selection of words was not appropriate.
I think electronic media can play a vital role to create this awareness and exactly that’s the reason behind the blackout of media.
The electronic media of whole country if off air but the FM radio of Fazalullah is still working and Core Commander Pesahawar says that its technically difficult to block FM radion transmissions. On one side the import of dishes and receivers is banned but the army can’t block a FM radion because it suites them.
iShah
@Atif
We understand the agony thru which you & me too are passing. I am proud on IK that hes initiated a new spirit in our youth, especially in our biggest & oldest Universuty, that was kidnapped by JI Goons. Don’t disheart man, its time to be persistant with what we can do in our capacities.
Zulm phir zulm hai bharta hai to mit jata hai.
@Asif
mush is a son of …
his family should also be dragged like this and thrown in the arabian sea.
@iShah
Being an electric engineer I know its very simple to jam the FM transmission. The only thing one has to do is transmit noise on the same frequency with a higher power. FM reciever all the way accepts only the signals of higher rejecting the lower power.
And our forces has very good engineers too. Its just propaganda to fool a common man. nothing else.
I agree with you on the role of electronic meida in creating awareness & making public opinion visible. Hope we would be back on track very soon. InshAllah.
the Utube video is horrific….
bu here is an opportunity…
there are no bearded men of veiled women…
these are clearly educated, modern men and, particularly women, who are being beaten….
share this with our western frinds and, if possible, media….
our regime needs to be discredited in he eyes o western public…
tipu
Guys, don’t lose hope. I have just heard on Geo that PTI lahore president said that IK will return to PU to address the students once he is free. IK has said no matter what happens, he will not back down from mobilizing the youth and students.
As i always say, this is one Lion of Pakistan who doesnt know how to quite : ).
Jamiat/JI and MQM are the same. I understood that after closely looking at the leadership of Jamiat. They target urdu speaking community and tell them that they will be treated better once their PHILOSOPHY is imposed on everyone.
JI used to win most seats of Karachi, now MQM does. When MQM boycotted elections last time, JI won in Karachi, Not PML or PPP.
Disillusioned young guys are told that they are not being treated fairly and they need to rise up against the system (it is a smart way to use violence against others and support agencies).
Jamiat and MQM both have ‘Bhai culture’. They target the people who are not happy with their lives and need some EXTRA IDENTITY.
Both parties often have to co-operate with agencies because they have too many criminals to protect.
This factor will always keep Jamiat and MQM a Goonda force and never a proper mainstream party.
I fear for IK’s life…
he is the only one who can be a real alternative to the ‘easy to buy’ politicians…
and beacuse of this he must be the real future threat for the US’s interest in Pakistan…they might be thinking of him as the next Bhutto…
Tipu
@Atif @Tipu
worst video footage i have ever seen. you are right educated normal women dragged and beaten by male police…. i literally have tears in my eyes hearing the screams of women….
I am so shameful of being a pakistani today and i dont have words to explain this. despite everything i have never uttered a bad word against army….and today after watching this i really dont have words to condemn them.
Mush and Cheap Minister of Punjab….. i wish there sisters and daughters are dragged like this?
This is a disgrace for all Pakistanis,for the mistreatment of Imran Khan and his Sisters. Unless we stand up and protest, the same will happen to our sisters, daughters and mothers…
@ tipu
US and others will definitely see IK as the most revolutionary leader after ZA Bhutto. But rest assured, they cannot take out IK as easily as they did with Bhutto. World Politics have changed a lot since then.
i used to (and still) hate MQM for their facist activities.
but for once i feel happy with them when i think that…… some years ago in Karachi they gave IJT same treatment as IJT are known for and what we saw in PU yesterday.
Long live IK.
@ Malek
MQM and IJT are the same. That is why they fear each other and hate each other. Read what i wrote about their similarities @ 3.49 pm
@farhan..
I can only hope that you are right…
tipu
@Kami
i did read your coments. and i fully agree
in addition they have very limited following and a very closed internal group. they will therefore never become mainstream political parties but stay as facist organisations
Everyone, I know most of you must have already heard Mush’s comments on Negroponte’s visit. But i would like to know your thoughts on it.
According to Geo, Mush has said that he will tell Negroponte that ‘sab se pehle pakistan’, in other words he will not list emergency and won’t listen to the US and his ‘good friend’ Bush.
So Mush is on a direct collision course with the US. US won’t like this. I like everyone else believe Mush’s days are numbered as he is already facing hostility inside Paksitan as well.
How do you all think this will end? Like Zia?
Welcome to Kingdom of Mushkistan!!!
@farhan
I think we should not spent to much time on negative thinking which can harm even us. So I should not go for any speculation about the fall of Mush. Its enough for us that positive force have done all this & our concern should be that no one highjack the efforts of sincere people.
Because MMA&MQM are very cunny organised set of Goons, they will do their best to highjack it, we should be aware of this.
Do spare more time on spreading the message of positive forces means everyone whos involved in the restoration of Judiciary, we should discuss them as much as possible, discuss any fruitful suggestions…
Now the people even the right wing journlists have disclosed the real face of MMA, And I would apperciate the efforts of IK for making an opinion, even MMA humiliated IK for his single seat at times at all platforms. But IK stuck to his principles & InshAllah his efforts will be fruitful. And we have a glimpse at PU rally in favor of IK on 2nd consecutive day. The ice has started melting…….
@ Asif
Agree with you bro. Just wanted to get others point of view.
As for IK, if anyone has benifitted by IJTs behaviur, its IK. In addition to his 1 seat, he has also been questioned a lot of times about his political history, i.e., he never went to jail, was never arressted for his political struggle etc. This one episode has answered every question his critics had : ). And now IK will rise higher than ever before in his political career.
Going to jail should not be considered as a standard for becoming a politician. Our MA Jinnah never went to Jail (at least I am not aware that he did) and he was one heck of a leader.
@farhan
Agreed. And we should not forget to particpate in his election compaign atleast on Internet & we should ask our family & friends to vote for him.
@ Amir Hameed
I agree. But i said that in the context of criticism that IK has recieved so far. I have heard many of his critics mentioning this point. So now they got their annwer. As for being a good leader, time and again IK has proven his leadership in sports, social and now in political sector.
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Altaf a leader? Give me a break fellas. That joker is anything but a leader. People also consider Bush a leader and I can only laugh at that thought.
Ayaz Amir on Musharraf’s loss of control of English (Mush claims he cannot read Urdu because English is like his first language. This only happens to second language when someone is upset. Another lie by Mush). Please Read:
“Have you thought of (resigning)?� asks Sky News. The answer: “But should it be given up now and we will have better Pakistan, a stabler Pakistan and we could have very good elections, without me? Very good, maybe I take that decision, OK?� (No kidding, the very words.)
As the BBC Urdu Service’s Mohammad Hanif observes (in his hilarious “The case of Musharraf and the drunk uncle�), “Musharraf deserves our sympathy. Not because he has been forced to carry out a coup against his own regime, not because his troops are being kidnapped en masse by Pakistani Taliban and then awarded Rs500 for good behaviour, not because he himself has become a prisoner in his Army House and can’t even nip out for coffee and paan as he used to, but because he has utterly lost his grip over grammar.�
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
Leaders are the people who are respected in the masses, not by a particular group of people.
Joke of the century:
Mush will ask his Master Ponte, Pakistan 1st.
Rolling with laughters……..
There is a simple solution on pakistan current situation, TO Kill Musharaf otherwise Pakistan will be killed.
This mean person will go same as General Zia.
Which of the political party is clean and not corrupt. I mean paries including Q League but excluding Tahrek e Insaf.
All politicians play with the sentiments of general public.
Present situation is dangerous for Pakistan
@Nabeel
I am not sure how/where you got the idea that I am somehow a supporter of MQM. WTF cares about MQM. You are either new to these forums or do not pay attention to people’s responses carefully.
Pay attention to what you write or do your research before you wite it.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/16/ed.htm#3
Editorial in Dawn on Imran Khans arrest
@farhan,
I have never doubted IK’s leadership and I have always responded to those people who have criticised IK for not getting arrested or going to jail with the same argument that he does not have to go to jail to prove his leadership and this is where I was coming from.
A very good article about our hero Aitzaz Ahsan — must read.
http://micropakistan.org/blog/2007/11/16/lawyer%e2%80%99s-long-fight-for-democracy-puts-him-in-familiar-place-jail/
It was disturbing for me to see person like Ansar Burni joining Musharraf’s caretaker govt. Everybody knows Mr Burni’s profile and his services for humanity. After watching what mush has done with this country (particularly abuse of human rights), i am surprised how could such a person endorse musharraf at this time when he is politicaly the weakest. Musharraf has deceived the entire pakistani nation for personal gains. Mush and his aids have always tried to blend truth with bluff to play with this nation. Cooperating with Mush at this time is criminal, I am gravely disappointed at Mr. Burni’s act.
I just sent this message to Mr. Ansar Barni:
Dear Mr. Ansar Barni,
This letter might have harsh words for which let me apologize in advance. You will have to understand your act has forced me to write this letter and I am entitled to vent my anger at you as over the years you kept yourself protraying as human rights champion. Let me tell you honestly that our country is at such depths not only because of the dictators ruling over it for the last 60 years but also because of people like yourself who carry two faces to fool innocent people of this land of pure.
I am sure that you won’t vouchsafe to reply to this email, but let me tell you , your action of abetting the most ruthless dicatator of this country has brought you lower than the dictator himself in the eyes of people of Pakistan.
Please also me tell you please don’t try to justify your despicable act to anybody, at least be bold enough to say what a lahore judge said. “Mein tu moon kala kara aya hoon” , I have blakened my face.
thanks
@J A MALIK
you are 100% right I think we shld end all the philosophical /political discussion here and pray for what you have said…
all these ifs and buts are not gonna lead us nowhere…..the first and foremost priority for pakistan at the moment is the torturous death of this UGLY BASTARD MONSTER GENERAL BUSSHARRRAF…
suggetion: he shld be hanged till death..from his testicles…
I heard Justice Khawaja Muhammad Sharif , saying that a judge who had first agreed not to take oath under PCO , after taking oath told Justice Sharif this:
“Mein tay moon kala kara aya haan”
He said this in punjabi. I am glad that even those who are scumming to pressure realize that they are not doing anything good.
@J A MALIK
you are 100% right I think we shld end all the philosophical /political discussion here and pray for what you have said…
all these ifs and buts are not gonna lead us nowhere…..the first and foremost priority for pakistan at the moment is the torturous death of this UGLY MONSTER GENERAL suggetion: he shld be hanged till his… ..from his testicles…
@mana
I second you
Unfortunately i can see the big disturbance in our beloved country because of rigidity of only one person.
I pray i am wrong.
Can anybody tell me how can i register on pkpolitics, because sometime my comments remain pending for moderation, is it happen to all.
Thanks
Article on End of Jamiat in PU. Very informative and with inside stories on Imran’s struggle (by Harron ur Rashid in dialy express)
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=National_PAGE&Date=20071116&Pageno=3&View=1%20id=
@peja…
good job…
I would like to sen similar letters to at-least those on the cabinet whose presence has surprised me…Burni is one example…
do yo have th emails addresses?
Tipu
Punjab Police and Karachi police are slaves of Chauhdaries and MQM respectively.
There are personal goons of both these parties inside police. In addition to that additional criminals can also come at special occasions to carry special tasks along police e.g. one done in video about Sisters of Imran Khan. They might come with police in two forms
1: They wear temporarily the uniforms of Police and carry their task. who cares? Our police so far is dead consciously.
2: they can complete tasks as plain clothed people along with police. who cares? Policemen just look here and there when these criminals torture people.
These goons are fed by Chauhdaries and MQM.
They go home after mission is over.
Normal policemen even can’t stop them since they could be beaten up by the goons or even could lose their jobs!!! But days are coming INSHALLAH when those police men who have little conscience will react and they they will react against these goons and their lords!!!
However, let me share one thing: If house of neighbor is at fire and we don’t extinguish this fire and think that it is not our business then that fire could reach to our home too…!!! Then should our neighbor help us???
What happened to these females in that video can happen to anyone if we thought that it is not our business to stop. How could a criminal stop if he finds no resistance???
It is true that educated people don’t like violence and we should not have it, but we can at least at least at least protest!!! We must stop those hands raised at innocent people.
I sent mail to the address from this page
http://www.ansarburney.com/contact.html
News is that His Master Negroponte has contacted BB on telephone, any activity of Negroponte is important at this time. As this will tell what is the fate of mad General. At the moment it seems that mad general is in hot waters. He is getting more and more furstrated and BB is getting more and more vocal against him.
@J A Malik
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This mean person will go same as General Zia.
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But WHEN????????
the way IK was arrested shows how stupid he is without knowing the consequences without having a proper plan
atleast he should consult with the leadership of IJI
probably he wants to take all the credit himself
fine fine fine he is a politician but still he can do better than that
look at NS Qazi sahab and others why are they sitting quietly
because they know the ground realities
they know what are their resources how far they can stretch
when to come out from their kameengahs
IK showed he is a khan cant sit in a hidding for long
like it or not but PPP will win the race
i m sure US is supporting her financially
she can spend lots of dollars in the villages for there support
so on
just watch and enjoy for now…
General Musharraf Parody
http://www.pakistannewsroom.com/
GEO shutting down today
Geo is closed forever.
@Qutubb
Nice to hear you!
BTW, success in your dictionary means to hide, to cheat or make corruption and get cleaned, if it is so then you are right!
One must also come out for active role! If you think that if you go out you might get accident then sit at home for whole life!
One can never judge what will exactly happen in future, only Allah knows what is going to happen in future! I think sooner or later it was going to happen with Imran khan since he was in the eyes of establishment! However his act has not tarnished his image rather you can see his support.
At some point one has to stop thinking and act…so don’t try to discriminate one ethnicity like pathans.
GEO TV BEING SHUTDOWN GLOBALLY!!!!!
WAKE UP PAKISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP PAKISTAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME OUT OF YOUR COMA!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t understand how can government of Pakistan can legally force Geo network down in UAE. GEO must have been regisered as a legal company in UAE.
Geo is being closed down in UAE
I really don’t know who Ansar Burney is but a couple of years ago I happened upon his website and my first reaction was what a self-serving/self-promoting a**hole (see his news section, for example). The whole site is all promoting HIM — it’s all “Ansar Burney”, “Ansar Burney”, “Ansar Burney.”
And I never trust a person who displays even a single photo of himself with someone he thinks important, which is always an attempt to make himself look important. But his site is full of them.
Speaking of his news section, go see it once again. Here are some examples:
“Condoleezza Rice congratulates Ansar Burney on his declaration as International HERO”
and as if that was not good enough, this is too hilarious:
“United States of America declared Ansar Burney as International ‘HERO’:
The United States of America has declared the name of Mr Ansar Burney as International ‘HERO’ in the field of human rights. The United States of America has declared Mr Ansar Burney, Her Majesty Queen Silvia of Sweden, Pop Singer Ricky Martin and 8 others as ‘HEROES’ ”
The WHOLE of United States? Ricky Martin, too? Oh please. And those are not my capitalizations!
Please don’t fall for this kind of cr*p!
Or did “Ansar Burney met Ambassadors in Abu Dhabi” impress you too much?
A person who proudly displays the following was bound to be made a minister some day:
http://www.ansarburney.com/images/chairman_pic8.jpg
Geo is going to be shut down.
Tomorrow there is a protest at Pakistan Embassy in Dublin Ireland at 1 pm. I would request all to attend.
*****BREAKING NEWS ON GEO******
DR SHAHID MASOOD JUST ANNOUNCED THE BREAKING NEWS THAT GEO IS BANNED ‘WORLDWIDE’.
FROM TONIGHT GEO WILL BE TAKEN OFF AIR AND NO-ONE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE GEO IN EUROPE US ETC
Geo is not closed because I just heard the news myself on Geo. Maybe it would move to UK. And then via satellite it would telecast in Pakistan
Its realy unbeliveable that UAE govt. can be influenced by Mush. I think they might be shutting down due to financial reasons.
Oh really that is shocking
So much for “Geo Musharaf, Genay Do Musharraf!”
Asif, still believe in what you said earlier?
Well, lets not be surprised if it is UAE government shutting it down for they are much bigger scum than our government and with increasing “economic interests” in Pakistan, they are bound to listen to Musharraf. Hasn’t he be giving them thousands of acres of prime property for free???
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Islami Jamiat e Talba is a mature organisation and is a voice of thousand of students..We should use bad words for it..Long Live Jamiat
DR SHAHID IS TAKING INTERVIEWS WITH HAMID MIR, KAMRAN KHAN ETC AS FAREWELL INTERVIEWS NOW…. TRYING TO ESTABLISH WHY AND HOW THIS DECISION WAS TAKEN
I am waiting for when they shut down the net …
Geo to shut down………
Mush madness at its worst……..
Latest news:
Geo news totally shut down in Pakistan. UAE government ordered to close Geo head-office and its transmission office in Dubai……due to Pakistani government pressure.
Geo Geo Geo!!!!!Always Geo!!!!!I LOVE GEO!!!!
Hataf-3 said:
“We should use bad words for it.”
OK, We will, and gladly :p
hataf mature talba means same college for many years lots of guns gundagardi etc
Told Ya that Geo was bleeding financially!
now they have decided to shut down for good because the main reason is that they are unable to cover their day-to-day expenses without having the required sponsors to pay the bills. The government shut down on the viewer-ship of the India-Pakistan cricket series was the last nail. I doubt if Pakistan Government has anything to do with the shut-down of HQ GEO in UAE.
Allah Hafiz GEO!
Dear Friends,
I am sadly informing you that a Pakistani icon, GEO is shutting down for good. It is indeed a sad day.
Love u 4 ever geo hazar sal Geo
Parting Lesson for GEO.
If the government can giveth media freedom, it can taketh it away too!
Zulm phir zulm hai bharta hai to mit jata hai……….
Shahid Masood on Geo announcing that Geo News transmission from UAE will been closed indefinitely FROM today.
Hamid Mir is telling Shahid Masood that the government demanded:
1) Shahid Masood’s program be shut
2) Hamid Mir’s program be shut
3) Ansar Abbassi be fired from The News
4) Government to place new news anchors in Geo.
5) Geo refused to become another PTV and had to shut down
Well done Musharraf. What’s next? Will the 3 judges who refused to hear emergency petition be placed under house arrest? Or is another martial law on the way to weed out these 3 judges.
Mush is very near gonna see his own face 24/7, nothing else.
soon internet will be blocked or heavily censored.same thing with print media.people have been taken to stone age.news will be forecefed thru PTV.a dark dark time for pakistan
Geo TV being closed
Updated at 2320 PST
KARACHI: There are reports that the government of Pakistan is using its influence with a foreign country to get the Geo TV network closed down.
It should be noted that Geo news and its entire sister channels had been closed down across Pakistan after the imposition of emergency.
Earlier, the cable operators in Pakistan were forced to close all channels being operated by Geo Network and the Pakistani viewers were deprived of the great source of information. However, the Geo TV was on air from its Dubai office.
The latest developments are that the government of Pakistan has gone to the limit of seeking the closure of Geo News network across the globe through a country.
After this closure of Geo Network, the worldwide viewers would not be able to watch the great source of information worldwide.
Hang the dictator!
Dr Aamir Liaquat on Shahid Masood, criticizing govt. He’ll be in trouble with Altaf bhai for criticizing the govt.
He stopped talking suddenly, i think mqm got him
It’s at times like these that I become even more determined and stronger of purpose!
F*ck y*u Mush. Geo will be back Inshallah and soon I will be p*ssing on your grave…
We salute the management and the entire team of GEO network. Insha-allah you will be back very soon.
no lesser punishment for busharraf ….than
hang till death..
and death shouldt come with in 24 hours…
and during these 24 hrs ,,,,, nangi peeth par chitter….
mun kala kar kay uss par thooka jayay
see the picture how secret agency (actual terrorists) man behaving with woman:
http://express.com.pk/epaper/Index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=FRONT_PAGE&Date=20071116&Pageno=1
shamfull act, this army is totally destroying the respect of daughters and sisters of nation.
where are now these mullahs (agents of terrorists); if this thing happened in any democrative government, these mullahs shoot up to sky.
inshalla
We salute the management and the entire team of GEO network. Insha-allah you will be back very soon.
To all my pakistan/forign concerned brothers/sisters,
It is been decided to shut Geo completely!!
This is just another desprate attempt by the so called liberal government to hide truth from the people of Pakistan. Can’t express my worry, sorrow and dissapointment towards this decision and i hope the day the come when Geo will start its news again with the first one to announce the fall of Mushraf!
Quran says in And say in Surah Al Asra – chap 17 verse 81:
“Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.”
write to our honorable president to inform him of his ancestry:
http://www.presidentofpakistan.gov.pk
the government of Pakistan itself should be declared an extremist group…
Now there is no doubt the Mush is gone, matter of days. Geo management is also business man and their resistance indicates what is going to happen next.
sad to hear but geo with Geo..
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
The Jamaat remains wedded to an ideology suspiciously close to fascism, (which makes one wonder about the uses to which Islam has been put in this country). From Gen Yahya onwards it has worked as a handmaiden of our spook agencies, the dark forces who have always undermined democracy. As a matter of policy its student wing has practiced unabashed violence to promote its political ends. Indeed, when the definitive history of the collapse of Pakistani education is written, the Jamiat’s ‘danda-bardar’ (baton-wielding) tactics will figure prominently in it.
Therefore any chastising of the Jamaat and its works is welcome. No one has educated the Jamaat and Jamiat more than the MQM. Indeed, about the only good thing the MQM has ever done, since its baptism at Zia’s hands in the mid-1980s, is to give the Jamaat a taste of its own medicine in Karachi. For this one service, if no other, the MQM is to be applauded.
This incident underscores an important lesson: that the religious parties, at least the two biggest — Qazi Hussein’s Jamaat and Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s JUI — can never be reliable partners in the struggle for democracy. They will always have an angle of their own and they will always be wired to the establishment.
PPP, PML-N, ANP, Tehrik-i-Insaf and the Baloch nationalists constitute the core of the dream alliance–the other elements of it being lawyers and civil society– which can still take Pakistan’s ship, now tossed about on stormy seas, to safer shores. The holy fathers have proved themselves to be beyond the pale. Let them stew in their own juice.
Why cannot they establish a network in UK because if Ahmediya or Qadianis are allowed to have their network in UK why not Geo. I am sure it would be very very popular in Uk and from here it can beam across and also on internet which Pakistan government cannot close.
Watch the movie ”Lions for Lambs” by Robert Redford
http://www.lionsforlambsmovie.co.uk/
A very very relevant Movie from current Pakistani perspective
I am surprised to hear Ansar Barni interview in which he said Pakistan comes first. He accepted the Ministership – how disgraceful is he.
this is such a joke. i cant believe the pakistani dictator is pressuring the UAE dictator to shut down an independant television channel and the UAE dictator complies. time to get rid of these puppets united under the orders of America. time for a revolution all over the Islamic world starting with Pakistan. the others will soon follow. victory to the mujahideen, victory for Islam
There is only one way to deal with this situation – Get this Musharraf out once for all.
So WTF happened to Geo’s appeal that was pending in the SC/HC? The entire media should have taken the stand against the imposition of restriction. True they were suffering from financial losses but in the long run it would have been far better than the compromise.
Jo nahi juka wohi hero hey
1- CJ Chaudary
2- Aitazaz
3- Imran
and now
4-Geo
Its really amazing that UAE can do this. given the fact its becoming hub of many businesses/ industry and its liberal policies, this would impact its global business positioning…
I still can understand how ..
@traffic
UAE sheiks kidnapped our innocent kids for camel racings, they have almost finished the species eagles in our deserts. Women are summegled to them for their ayashee.
Who provide them these things? So one day the provider is pressurizing them for a favor.
2007 will be 1857….
Qatl-e-Hussain asal mai marge-Yazid hai
Islam zinda huta hai har karbala kay bad
This seems to be last nail in the coffin of mad dictator, the arrival of Negroponte and then his talk with BB, and the closure of GEO seems to be happening in a certain sequence.
@Ahmed Bhai
I agree with you they(dubai) won’t underestimate its global impact on the trade & business in Dubai.
They are also shooting on their own foot.
pejamistri:
you are right. I earlier said same and all it make sense.
But Geo is saying that UAE govt. order them..
I doubt if Mush can only have this much influence. It seems a much wider game in global politics
Mush – time to packup
@chussain
To ansar barney, ansar barney comes first. please see my post above about ansar barney…
Last 9 min on air
so its Geo news only… hummmm
lab pe aati hey is being played on geo. probably the last dua on GEO. salutations to geo. this network was not like other shameless networks. once again GEO.
All leaders of the muslim world, with the exception of iran, act as whores for the west.
ARY One World appears to be shutting down too.
March,09,2007 will be remembered as a turning point in the history of Pkistan.
But on that very day no one was aware of this relity.
Thanks to the wisdom of Naeem Bukhari….
Gone.
We salute Geo management and the entire team of Geo news.
@Kruman,
Are you watching ARY ONE? BTW are they showing Kashif Abbasi program these days.
Kadam Kadam Pay Andhayron Ka Samna Ho Ga
Jo Dhondhtay Hain Ujalay Unhain Khabar Ker Do
Geo aur Is Kutay Kay Bachay Ko Marro
ARY One World is probably next in line….
Mush’s Master are with us as usual in sad moments.
I wish Geo would use these last few minutes in some better way…
ARY One World is suddenly off the air.
Blunders of Musharraf
1. Dismissal of CJ
2. Dismissal of Supreme Court
3. PCO
4. Ban on media
5. Closure of Geo
6. DOUBLE CROSSING THE AMERICANS
minimum punishment for busharraf
hang till death..
and death shouldt come with in 24 hours…
and during these 24 hrs ,,,,, nangi peeth par chitterol….
kaala mun kia jayay aur uss kay mun par thooka jayay ….
aur thooknain walon main sab say aagay main hoon gaaa
GEO SHUT DOWN. ARY SHUT DOWN. ONLY AAJ TV OPERABLE.
If only …
All other channels would shut themselves down in protest.
WHEN WILL PKPOLITICS.COM be banned – just wondering lol
CNN reporting right now that Dubai government has ordered two pakistani networks to shutdown. I believe second is ARY.
Maybe Mush would have to lick Queen’s ______
to get PKPOLITICS.COM BE BANNED
I am ashmad to be a Pakistani.
I died once more.
I am sorry of myself.
I BELIEVE THAT TO CIRCUMVENT TEH BAN ON GEO AND OTHER NETWORKS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IS TO PUT THE VIDOES ON PKPOLITICS.COM AND ON YOUTUBE. THIS IS TEH BEST WAY TO COUNTER TEH PROBLEM
Where I live I could only watch GEO news , ARY ONE was close and merged with ARY digital channel few months back. Now GEO has gone too, therefore I just pressed 501 on my tv to see SKY news
I think KAMRAN KHAN will go to PTV …he was a misfit in geo tv ….he suits PTV more…
he is pro establishment…
@Jafri Bhai
Hazrat Ali (KW) ka kaul hai.” Main ney apney hauslon k tootney sey RUB ko pehchana”
BTW GEO looks so different without the news ticker at the bottom, picture is looking so big.
its difficult to rig elections when media is free…thats another reason to ban channels …to RIG elections without any interference….
Does anyone have GHQ and other military emails?
I think we need to tell military people that hatred against our armed forces will go up unless they depose Mush Harami !!!
I think we need to appeal to the good side of Army guys (not big generals) so that we could have our country back on democracy track.
Aaj is miserable without Bolta Pakistan and Live with Talat. Useless channel.
All my respects to GEO.
Can someone please kill the swine Musharraf and his dogs?
Thanks.
Protests visibility did the final nailing of media.
So its very important for the guys who protest make vedios & upload on Youtube to send their messege……
guies which channels shld i watch now ….plz tell me if there is any good indian channel i can add through dish network in US…
or any good american channels…
any suggetions..
this dictator has crossed all limits of beghairati. i pray that musharraf and sehba along with their children are dragged in the streets of islamabad, stripped naked and stoned to death by the public. people should realise that until they take up arms against this army and police, they will stay under occupation of these hijras. they suck our blood and money and then use it to oppress and kill us.
i pray that people all over pakistan take up arms against this army and police, just like our brave brothers have done in waziristan and swat. we should demand an end to this tyranny which has been going on for 60 years now. Islam is the only solution for us, i hope the mujahideen reach Islamabad soon and end this bullsh*t once and for all. that way we just might get the chance to hang musharraf publicly in the streets of islamabad. all politicians r two-faced b*stards, all power-hungry corrupt sell-outs. we should be looking towards the mujahideen now, not the politicians. this regime only understands the language of force, look how this p*ssy army is surrendering by the hundreds in waziristan. may Allah help the mujahideen in bringing these criminals to justice for all that they have done in the last 8 years, which has reached its limit now. ameen
My SALUTE to Geo and ARY for taking the stand and not compromising on their principles. This fascist government is going to go down soon and no one can stop it from falling.
@Traffic
By voilation we would spoil the efforts made by Judges lawyers students IK…….
This is the time we would not loose our temprament we should follow the peaceful protests as all the above did.
They did it peacefuly………..
Make vidoes of the protest and make CDs and distribute them. Musharraf has challenged the nation as a whole and we have to tell him that we would not be cowed down at all.
FM 100 % agreee Traffic
we are nearly there
Jamaat Islami is intellucally and “spritually� descended from Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan)
Ever wondered why they always choose the wrong way….from opposing Pakistan to Kidnapping Imran Khan………?
Perhaps the problem is more fundamental…..see the following link
http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/book/muslim_brotherhood.html
These Arab biddus are f*****g b*s***d*. They always show loyalties to individuals but not to the individuals. They came to save NS back in 2000; the government of Saudi Arabia had recently asked the current Pakistani government to release general Hamid Gul because they had personal relationship with them and now this. What about standing up for the masses of Pakistan. Once this turmoil is over and inshallah the civil society will emerge victorious, the behavior of these countries should be dealt with appropriately.
It proves only one thing
That Mush and his cronies’ Kameenigee has no boundaries.
Kargil and Dhaka ke Bagore, Ab Channels Fateh Kar Rahe hain
A recent article in NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Pakistan.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
I am at a loss. I don’t know what to do with the searing pain and rage inside me. This regime can not go any lower than this. Dear fellows, lets just vow our eternal allegiance to the people of Pakistan. Let us vow to bring this regime to its knees.
1. Social boycott of police and more importantly Army members among our friends and family.
2. Spread the message to our circles and convince them to do the same.
3. Boycot of all the products produced by Fauji Foundation and its subsidiaries, including among others the ASKARI brand.
4. Commit ourselves to cut this army to size by campaigning against it’s non-military activities at every forum.
5. Demand of the Western countries to stop AID to military. Trust me, no one is going to attack us and get entangled in the mess that we are in. The AID is only filling the accounts of the generals.
6. Develop networks among your colleagues and friends on a single point agenda of cutting this military to its size. Everything follows thereafter.
Let’s nip the evil in the bud before its too late. Let’s do something more meaningful with all our limitations. Let’s stop these hands before they reach our homes.
i remember one of the pieces i read some time back about Nazis. I don’t remember exactly but it goes like this.
First they came for the communists. I was not a communist. Then they came for the Jews. I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one to stand for me.
admin this is a request to start a round 2 of protests through pkunited.this time bigger and louder.all pakistanis should come out of their houses now no matter where you live
Pakistan Army No. 2 Will Play Key Role
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gk57LBPSBKhhuw1DRe8xFdU6ZdJgD8SUTJ285
U.S. envoy arrives to pressure Pakistani president
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/11/16/pakistan.negroponte/?iref=mpstoryview
US Envoy Carries Warning to Pakistan
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIE0IUn4WIiaMBpjG8SI_6H5RXzgD8SUTQD80
Get a grip or go, Pervez Musharraf told
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22773470-401,00.html
UN says rights envoy Jahangir released in Pakistan
http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSL16400879
Benazir Bhutto: “New Pakistan Government Has Committed Treason�
http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/pakistan/16127/benazir-bhutto-new-pakistan-government-has-committed-treason/
Dabbling with Democracy: The Musharraf Mess
http://nebuchadnezzarwoollyd.blogspot.com/2007/11/dabbling-with-democracy-musharraf-mess.html
People-Politics in Pakistan: Who is Protesting and Who Is Not
http://pakistaniat.com/2007/11/16/paistan-protest-pictures-emergency/
US signals Musharraf’s days may be numbered
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/15/wpak315.xml
Pakistan vs. Punditry
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20071116/cm_thenation/15252147
US cagey on Musharraf
http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=614476
Question mark over Musharraf’s future
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C16%5Cstory_16-11-2007_pg7_54
Crisis grows in Pakistan
http://www.workers.org/2007/world/pakistan-1122/#Scene_1