Important Events Today:
Protest at Common Wealth Office in London - 22 November 2007 @ 1300
Common Wealth Secretariat
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Contact: Zubair Gul 07956453448
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Attacking Law and Lawyers
Judges and Lawyers: Defenders of Democratic Values
The Crisis in Pakistan is Our Crisis
Date: 22 November 2007
Time: 6.00pm
Venue: Law Society
There will be plenty of opportunity for questions, discussion and debate
The event is free. To register, please email DDelgado@barcouncil.org.uk
Domonique Delgado
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The General Council of the Bar
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Tel: 020 7242 1289
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BREAKING NEWS:
- Benazir gives green light to PPP workers to Participate in Elections without a constitution - Geo Reports
- Qazi Hussain Ahmad takes nomination papers for elections - Jang Reports
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November 21st, 2007 at 12:06 am
My special salutation to Justice Rana Bhagwan Das, who against all odds, rises to one of the highest post in his profession. Even more, he might have sacrificed a potential position as Chief Justice for the Truth and for this nation.
November 21st, 2007 at 12:09 am
To the dictator and for every1,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5839233116413371954&q=Zain+Bhikha&total=643&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
November 21st, 2007 at 12:17 am
The way the Musharraf regime, including the caretakers, is treating two of Pakistan’s undisputed heroes, icons in their own right — Imran Khan and Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan — is unforgivable and quite shameless
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=81967
November 21st, 2007 at 12:27 am
“let the democratic system run and with passage of time the politicians will become polished and institutions strong”……..yeah right till then keep sitting while blood sucking politicians suck all the money out of Pak…..y shouldnt i be given chance till the “democratic values” mature and i transfer all funds to foriegn banks…….
To admin of this site……this site has become typical Mirc chat room…instead of concentarting on deleting comments from same person concentrate on the language being used here.
I am not anti democratic I am against the system that we think is democratic…..we live in the world where the symbol of justice UNO is being ruled by powerful countries with veto and injected aid.
November 21st, 2007 at 12:27 am
The apathy amongst the university students has also been replaced by a new activism. It was heartening to note the large-scale protests, which brought in women students in large numbers also, in the Punjab University against the Jamiat students’ mistreatment of Imran Khan. Clearly, the terror of these hooligans and the mafia-like hold they have on that campus will not have the same relevancy anymore.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=81968
November 21st, 2007 at 12:47 am
A recent anti Jamiat rally.I am so happy. A few members of Jamiat didn’t dare to come out. Protesters were showing them middle fingers!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FLV23dtotMc&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b
November 21st, 2007 at 12:51 am
@ Kami
I am not surprised the Jamaat hooligans didn’t dare to come out. Only people with strong values and faith have the courage to face challenges. Not these hypocrites.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:00 am
Everyone, I cannot wait for Imran Khan to get out and go to PU again. The reception he will get will baffle the Bhuttos, the Qazis, the Fazlus.
I wonder wheres that Jamiat Media Front guy today. Would love to show him this video.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:05 am
I’m amazed but I think the moment should not stop after demolishing Jamiat. We should not forget the primary target which is the restoration of democracy and judiciary
PU students have made us proud PU
November 21st, 2007 at 1:08 am
Madcow knows very well about the popularity of IK among youth, so he would try his best to keep IK away from the youth.
Longlive IK
November 21st, 2007 at 1:42 am
Tribute to students, judges, lawyers and civil society of Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv7YdFVe2Is
Please register your protest at and forward it to all you know.
http://www.BoltaPakistan.com
November 21st, 2007 at 1:46 am
Generals+Mullas+Lotas+Corrupt Familial Politicians = Disaster for Pakistan
Free Judiciary+Free Media+Fair Politicians = Glory for Pakistan
November 21st, 2007 at 1:53 am
Guys be ready for some Mush + Altaf lover to come and start to distract us. There haven’t been many today after admin’s warning to those who have multiple ids and try to spam the website.
A few days ago, one guy was supporting Jamiat with one ID and posting comments against some races in Pakistan with another ID. With the third ID he was writing against the Shias. He was Mush Altaf lover and wanted to distract us. I caught him because he was using one wesbsite and even that was wrong (it was just http://export). Haven’t seen him (or atleast those ids/incomplete website) since!!
Today some people might come and tell us that the US is with Mush so that we get demoralised. We know that already and we fought against corrupt generals after 9 march without US support and we will continue after 3rd november whatever the US decides.
There is God who is far more powerful than elephants of the world.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:56 am
Puppet judges reject challenge to Pervez Musharraf
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2903477.ece
November 21st, 2007 at 2:01 am
Mr Khan, 54, risked his freedom by appearing at the university because he wanted to kick-start a student movement. He seems to have got his wish. Each day since then, thousands have demonstrated on the Punjab University campuses, in scenes of student activism not witnessed in 30 years in Pakistan.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1826122007
November 21st, 2007 at 2:05 am
Imran Khan in high spirits: PTI leader
http://thepost.com.pk/ShortNewsT.aspx?shortid=4887&catid=2
November 21st, 2007 at 2:28 am
It is stunnig and amazing to see the peaceful and forceful rally by the wonderful students , boys and girls alike. I hope to see all the student to join together for one purpose only, that is to restore the judiciary and have free and fair election. Uder independent judiciary and with fair and free election you can replace all the corrupted politicians and disgraceful leaders. I furhter hope that ordinary Pakistanis would be able to join the students along with Lawyers and other members of the civil society. Now the cuntry is asking for their sacrifices. Pakistan is in turmoil and serious touble and needs help I am sure, pretty soon the security personnels will be sympathetic and will join the opressed people and would not hurt their own fellow countrymen and women. Students have always been on the forefront and had sacrificed in the past, when their country needed them and once again your country needs you. You can free yourself and Pakistan from the current oppressors. I, however, would like to caution them to be be peaceful.
November 21st, 2007 at 3:01 am
Please help me to deliver this important message to Imran Khan.
Dear Imran Khan
All Pakistan loving people loves you and pray for your health and long life. You have given us pride and hope. Pakistan needs a leader like you. We all want to follow you. Women and children would also do exactly what you ask them to do. To ask them to go on a hunger strike is no good idea. Allah has given us our lives, it is HIS amanat. We should all follow his instruction about how to live. Pakistan was also created in the name of Allah. Allah will help us to protect it. I request you in the name of Allah not to hunger strike anymore, but to do 40 ROZE instead. You should ask all Pakistan loving people to FAST with you instead of hunger strike. This was the path followed by all prophets of Allah. In that way Allah will be on our side, and we will succeed with the help of Allah!
I pray for your health, long life and success!
Allah hafiz
November 21st, 2007 at 3:07 am
We know JI ppl do the politics of alliances becuase they can won more than a couple of seat alone.
If they are right representative of ppl do participate in election alone under the symbol of JI.
But they know that would be the last day for them in politics.
They are no more than a KGM (Kabza Group Mentality)
Longlive IK, they can’t even have a good sleep after Nov14.
November 21st, 2007 at 3:34 am
@Xen
“I am not anti democratic I am against the system that we think is democratic…..we live in the world where the symbol of justice UNO is being ruled by powerful countries with veto and injected aid.”
Maybe you should have said “injected AIDS.” You are absolutely right and thanks for bringing up the point about UN. And it’s not just UN. It’s partners in crime are the IMF, WTO, and World Bank with off-springs like ADB, etc. UN is just the PR branch, hiding the wholesale robberies and genocides of the “developed” contries of the world.
All these organizations have very different agendas than advertised which a very little percentage of people are aware of. To get a sence about them you might go to “Water Privatisation: World Bank, IMF, WTO” at http://www.all4all.org/2006/10/2807.shtml. I suggest this link as it will also, if you think about it, shed some light on why Mush keeps pushing for dams like Kalabagh. Keep in mind all of them are supported by these four…
In the book “Unholy Trinity: The IMF, World Bank and WTO”, Richard “Peet explores the institutional histories of the three pillars of the global financial order, from their circumscribed beginnings at the post-war Bretton Woods Conference to their increasingly central role in many Third World economies in this detailed critique. As the IMF and World Bank condition their loans on far-reaching and draconian ‘’structural adjustment” programs, and the WTO acts as an unelected, super-government passing judgment on environmental regulations, labor standards and other supposed impediments to trade, Peet argues, these undemocratic organizations assert unprecedented levels of control over a wider and wider segment of the world’s population. While maintaining a Keynesian regulatory role over the world economy, he contends, these institutions have become standard-bearers for the neoliberal ideology favored by the ”Washington-Wall Street Alliance,” imposing on poor countries a regimen of free trade, government austerity, export-led development and deregulation and privatization of the economy. Such policies, he says, although convenient for international corporations and investors, have been disastrous for the people of these countries, resulting in slow growth, environmental devastation, and rising poverty and inequality.”
November 21st, 2007 at 3:36 am
@ asif
have u forgotten ’sahi’ who was saying the same things?? mod is loud then appeared with a different messages. when i drew attention to this, he disappeared. now after a gap, he has forgotten so he is writing with this name but repeating ’sahi’s message. You were telling him ‘jee bar ke ro lo’.
i didn’t know that this besharam will come back, i just warned everyone @ 1.53.
November 21st, 2007 at 3:38 am
Military Mulla Alliance is fully exposed. NS is distancing from Jamaat and MMA. They are highly hypocriotes and agents of Mush and USA.
Military Mulla Ittihad Thatha.
Mulla-Fauji are both butchers.
No doubt these MMA wala has become a symbol of hate along with Mush.
BB, NS and IK must unite to form a new pro-democracy alliance. Unity is all what we need. We must unite in decision to boycott or participate in elections. A strong BB+NS+IK alliance is needed on one point agenda i.e RESTORATION (Constitution, Judiaciary, democracy).
I promise that such alliance can easily win 2/3 majority in elections.
November 21st, 2007 at 3:45 am
IK is Gr8 leader and an asset for Pakistanis (not for mush). He has respect of JI and as I foresee he will continue to proceed in that way. However we should not cross limits based on any minor issue and should keep in mind the possible perspectives behind that. Thats the way of Imran and being his supporters we should try to back his stance rather crossing going against his vision. Try to be calm, wait for IKs opinion and line of action for long term struggle and then follow his vision (IF you really appreciate his leadership and wisdom).
*** Pakistan Paidabad ***
November 21st, 2007 at 3:47 am
updated the articles at radio free pakistan, still waiting for admin to send an email
November 21st, 2007 at 3:52 am
Qasmi rights in daily jang about the people who claim to be religious but they are not coming out against the governments. He says while those woman whom people call ‘maghreb-zada’ (westernised)are coming out against the west backed government, No Jamia Hafsa type female students have come out!!
http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2007-daily/21-11-2007/col3.htm
November 21st, 2007 at 4:49 am
Are we there yet? — nota
A Review of America’s ‘Investment’ in El Salvador
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/16/5269/
“Here is an eye-witness report of my visit to El Salvador last November. It illustrates the legacy of our government’s $6 billion “investmentâ€? in that war after 15 years of peace-and provides a sample of what we can expect from our $1.6 trillion and counting “investmentâ€? in Afghanistan and Iraq”
November 21st, 2007 at 4:52 am
Maybe baseless propaganda, maybe the truth:
Pak nukes already under US control: Report
By Times Of India
11/20/07 “TOI” — – WASHINGTON: Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are already under American control even as analysts are working themselves into a lather on the subject, a well-regarded intelligence journal has said.
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2673&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
November 21st, 2007 at 4:52 am
Islamabad bureaucrats fight for deposed judges to stay by Ansar Abbasi
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11266
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad bureaucrats, or the compatible baboos as they are known in common slang, have finally taken a position in support of the deposed Supreme Court judges: they do not want them to be evicted forcibly from their residence and dispatched to their hometowns.
At a high level meeting chaired by Secretary Interior Syed Kamal Shah recently, these civil bureaucrats vehemently opposed the option of forcible eviction but insisted on giving a chance to other persuasive measures to attain this objective.
November 21st, 2007 at 4:58 am
For once I agree with BB though she is a bit late on that front:
Benazir says Pakistan ‘slowly disintegrating’
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C20%5Cstory_20-11-2007_pg7_53
“It may sound dramatic, but the picture here is frightening. Pakistan is slowly disintegrating, and it seems everyone is paralysed into ignoring the calamity that is coming”
November 21st, 2007 at 5:08 am
Mush has a knack for finding them. Maybe the Federal Employment Application form reads something like “Before being considered for Ministerial position, the applicant must provide solid proof of his membership to the Kabza Group. All such claims will be fully investigated and verified.”
Or maybe there is another thing at work here:
He picks such people with the sole purpose that by these are the people with their t*sticles expos*d so they will not go against him and he can yank them anytime to get them to do anything…
Caretaker minister in widow’s house grab scandal
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11259
November 21st, 2007 at 5:15 am
Speaking of ministers, did he not also choose a Pir — Pir Of Taunsa — as his new misister for Religious Affairs?
Is this “Enlightened Moderation” or the exact opposite?
November 21st, 2007 at 5:16 am
Speaking of ministers, did he not also choose a Pir — Pir Of Taunsa — as his new minister for Religious Affa*rs?
Is this “Enlightened Moderation� or the exact opposite?
November 21st, 2007 at 5:17 am
musharrafisana$$hole.com is available for purchase.
Not, it will make a great name for your blog.
November 21st, 2007 at 5:18 am
musharrafisana$$hole.com is available for purchase.
Nota, it will make a great name for your blog.
November 21st, 2007 at 5:23 am
@ admin
what happened to the interview you had with Shahbaz Sharif? You said you would upload the video of that interview by Monday night… it’s still not here.
Please upload Shahbaz Sharif Interview
Thank you
November 21st, 2007 at 5:52 am
“Have I done anything constitutionally illegal? Yes, I did it on 3 November,”Said Musharraf in his recent interview.
Musharraf imposed Emergency /Marshal law only to get rid of the honest judges and free media and help him cling to power undefinately.
This shows he has no respect for the constitution of Pakistan, people of pakistan and for that matter pakistan.
Let me ask one question to the people lucky enough to live in western damocratic culture with Supremacy of the Constitution and independence of judiciary.
Can you imagine living even for one day without any constitution, independent judiciary with no freedom of speach ?
How will you feel if BBC/CNN/Fox News was to shut down because they speak truth and your Govt can’t take it…. the judges suspended and house arrested because they abide by the constitution and won’t support anything illeagal??
Only honest and independent Judiciary and media can ensure protection of rights of common people of pakistan, leading to democracy and development.
November 21st, 2007 at 5:53 am
BREAKING NEWS
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Source Dawn news
- Lion of Pakistan CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry trying to leave judges colony along with other judges
- His residence gate is locked
- Additional police reinforcements sent CJP’s residence
Please spread the word, people will come out enmasse when they hear about CJP Iftikhar Chaudhry’s attempt to break the siege.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:08 am
@Jeera
It would, but then again it would be too limiting. Or maybe I could start another one it certainly deserves it’s own — wonder what’s the max storage blogspot allows? :p
November 21st, 2007 at 6:09 am
Plans for disintegrating Pakistan are now up for debate
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2672&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
November 21st, 2007 at 6:12 am
Why you guys talk about Musharraff all the times. He is an Indian national and not the son of Pakistan. How come you guys expect anything called “GOOD” from this Military dictator who is meant to dissolve Pakistan. Choor commanders are equally responsible.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:15 am
@AJ on November 21st, 2007 4:52 am
“Maybe baseless propaganda, maybe the truth:
Pak nukes already under US control: Report”
I really believe this was done a LONG time ago, say soon after September 2001…
November 21st, 2007 at 6:17 am
It’s not true, But Musharraf is behaving like Saddam Hussain. Nuke VS. Oil
MUSHHSSHH is paving the way for international intervention to remove these Nukes because they believe Pak is a Rouge State. Na-PAk Army has to think now or it will be too Late.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:21 am
Is this who we should be looking up to as role models/saviors? See how America treats its own at http://videos.informationclearinghouse.info/2prison.wmv
The report’s title is “Torture, Inc.”
“They are just some of the victims of wholesale torture taking place inside the U.S. prison system that we uncovered during a four-month investigation for Channel 4 . It’s terrible to watch some of the videos and realise that you’re not only seeing torture in action but, in the most extreme cases, you are witnessing young men dying.”
November 21st, 2007 at 6:22 am
Nota,
If it intrigues you, you can buy that domain for 5-7 bucks a year and just have it point to you your blog i.e. contemptible.blogspot.com
I think it will make a great name, for it’s simplicity and honesty. I can’t think of a better name except in Punjabi.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:36 am
@Jeera
I would but I don’t have a credit card and I don’t think any local ISP will risk registering it…
November 21st, 2007 at 6:38 am
One heck of a rally going on in Islamabd kachehri. Justice Wajihuddin is there too.
Intense sloganeering by lawyers against Musharraf and for the immediate release of all lawyers.
Source: Aaj TV
November 21st, 2007 at 6:39 am
I understand Nota. I don’t want a visit from ISI or MI either.
November 21st, 2007 at 6:43 am
I have heard that Talat Hussain has resigned from AajTV. Is this true?
November 21st, 2007 at 6:54 am
A recent article in The Washington Post titled,”Where We Went Wrong In Pakistan”:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/20/AR2007112001650.html
November 21st, 2007 at 7:11 am
A newsweek article, “Choking the Channels”:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/71564
November 21st, 2007 at 7:13 am
dawn and aaj tv reporters ordered to leave SC. It is rumored that they caught Dogar the wanker on camera.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:08 am
Nice video link by Kami.
November 21st, 2007 at 8:12 am
Riyadh Keen to Send Nawaz Back
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11272
November 21st, 2007 at 8:20 am
Aitezaz Ahsan is a man of principles (unlike his party leader!)
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11281
November 21st, 2007 at 9:00 am
Pak nukes already under US control: Report
By Times Of India
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18752.htm
November 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
Please take a look at the following:
http://destogate.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/as-the-fog-clears-january-21st-2008/
November 21st, 2007 at 9:37 am
@ Raja the information of the intelligence journal is quite sensational given the stance the US government is taking. It is saying the Pak Nukes are safe and that Pak Military has taken ‘credible’ steps to ensure that! So Mush has given the Nuke control apart from other things like airbases and military bases to the US. This man is reckless and a freak. he will sure detsroy the country. Earlier I wrote what the Pak Army junior officers are thinking. One of them said no officer wants to come out with criticsm as they will be disciplined and then they loose their cahnce to get plots and other things that in pipeline only for ‘good’ officers. So who is coming out the westernized women and dudes from institutes like LUMS. The Mulla Military Allaince (MMA) will never come out. Common people are least interested! What will take to move the people? Things now rest with PPPP, ML (N), TI and other regional forces. If this does not happen in the next few days the country is not going to survive and they know it.
November 21st, 2007 at 9:41 am
Since even entertainment channels are still banned here is a something to compensate
Life is a cartoon:
Once upon a time there were four Thundercats: Jio, Ari, Aash and their cousin with the funny accent Donny. They had been fighting for years to save the Carefree Bears from the clutches of the Ancient Forces of Evil who had dominated the land since its creation. Then one day the Ancient Forces resurrected The Evil Memra to once and for all destroy the Thundercats. Sadly, Memra was able to break apart the cats by coercing Aash and Donny to stab their friends in the back. On seeing this happen many Carefree Bears raised a lot of hue and cry but to no avail. The Evil Memra, backed by the Ancient Forces, smiled with much malice. Will Jio and Ari change the course of events? Will the Free cats survive? Find out on the next episode of ……….(Blackout)
November 21st, 2007 at 11:17 am
Now here is a Man who is shoulders above the filth that surrounds us today… a man who stands steadfast for what he believes in. We salute you sir and pray that Allah (swt) bestows us with men of virtue and resolve to lead us towards the light at the end of this darkest tunnel.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11281
ps. People remember this light is there, we just can’t see it! Stand up for your rights based on the right path of truth & virtue.. as no one can switch off this light no matter how much might they may deploy.
“Jhoot” ka sir humeisha neechey aur “succh” ka bol bala. Zalim upne zulm ke saath upni saza khoob paye ga. Allah (swt) is just and He will judge us. May He (swt) guide the righteous amongst us and subdue and humiliate the wrong-doers (please guide the mis-guided to the correct path) *Ameen*
November 21st, 2007 at 11:38 am
Dear Faisal:
ASA! To make it easier on the eyes, I retyped Benazir Bhutto’s letter to Peter Galbraith (former U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia) a scanned copy of which is posted below). While Benazir was a student at Radcliffe College (an affiliate of Harvard University), Peter’s father late John Kenneth Galbraith (a Professor Emeritus of Economics at Harvard, and former U.S. Ambassador to India) had adopted Benazir and served as her God Father.
Benazir and Peter were about the same age and knew each other quite intimately since those days. He was the only Confidante of Benazir to serve as a conduit with United States government, U.S. Department of
State and various Congressmen and Senators. In her letter postted below) she mentions the name of Congressman Stephen Solarz (Democrat, NY), who happened to be a staunch supporter of Israel (being a Zionist Jew), and
arch enemy of Pakistan, now serving as a paid lobbyist for India.
Stephen Solarz was booted out of Congress in a disgracefull manner for some Bad Bank Check Cashing Fraud, and since then he has kept a low public profile. Thus Peter Galbraith (not a Senator but a former U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia) was her only confidante and conduit for communicating with the U.S. Government officicials. During her second stint as Prime Minister, she hired a paid Jewish Lobbyist [affiliated with Pakistan Embassy in washington, DC] to shine up her image as a
Public Relations agent.
Reading her letter, it makes me vomit being a Muslim, as to how could she get that way to harm Pakistan in revenge to what Ghulam Ishaq Khan did to her by firing from the post of Prime Minister. We pray to Allah, to protect Pakistan from such vultures, who have no qualms in stooping to such low depth.
Bashir A. Syed
Retired Aerospace Physicists
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mrs. Benazir Bhutto
Bilawal House
Karachi
Dear Peter Galbraith (Hand Written):
I don’t know how to thank you, for your many favors to me and my family. As you know that the order of my dismissal were drafted in the JAG branch of the GHQ, as it was not possible for me to pull along with the army and they subverted my
Government.
I already communicated to various friends in the congress and especially Stephen Solarz, to use their good office with President Bush, so as to put maximum pressure on President Ishaq, and the army in Pakistan, that they do not disqualify me from the elections, as it will be unjust and negation of all democratic principles for which we have struggled.
It would be most appropriate if military as well as economic assistance to Pakistan is stopped, and all the International gencies like the World Bank, IMF are told to squeeze the Government of Pakistan and if possible all supply to Pakistan should be gisrupted, so that normal life in Pakistan comes to standstill.
As long as I was the Prime Minister, I kept a check on the Nuclear device, but now I do not know what are the plans of the Government.
The suspension of F-16 and its spares will bring the army to its senses.
Dear Peter, Please use your influence on V.P. Singh the Indian Prime Minister, to Engage the Pakistan army on the border, so that they do not impede my way.
I wish Rajiv Gandhi had been the Prime Minister of India, things would have been easier.
Thank you and with warm regards,
Sincerely yours,
Signed: Benazir Bhutto.
Dated: 24-09-1990
National Democratic Institute for International Affairs
1717 Massachusetts Avenue, NW — Suite 503, Washington, DC 20036.
(202)329-3136 Telex 5106015068 NDIIN Fax (202)3166.
*A public service message for general awareness !
A letter from Benazir Bhutto to american senators …
Distributed for sake of information … not for promoting Pakistan
Muslim Legue !
*All right reserved by Daily Express … Published here only for
sake of public awareness.
Contents pasted here are directly taken from the original website !
November 21st, 2007 at 11:49 am
Nawaz Sharif says return to Pakistan top of agenda in Saudi talks:
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/southasia/news/article_1375299.php/Nawaz_Sharif_says_return_to_Pakistan_top_of_agenda_in_Saudi_talks
November 21st, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Dear Brothers & Sisters
You can ask any question. We are here to answer.
November 21st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
I love Jamiat
November 21st, 2007 at 12:09 pm
We protest. This is unfair to block our representation on this group.
November 21st, 2007 at 12:19 pm
@Admin
We should listen both parties. Kindly allow them to present their point of view
November 21st, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Dear Bashir sahib,
I have told by a senior journalist that the letter which has graced newspapers recently attribute to BB is a fake!
Wallah ho Alam, but I am not sure if I was to write to a confidante the I would hand write his/her name and use a surname as well. If you say they both knew each other really well as you put it. I would most likely address that person by their first name.
The letter has some basic grammatical mistakes which I would not attribute to someone who went to Oxford and has an honorary degree from Harvard as well. I would accept MANY grammatical mistakes if BB was to write in Urdu! :o)
Anyways, let’s not argue for or against individuals. Now is not the right time! Let us be single-mindedly focussed on the 1 matter at hand - PAKISTAN and what ails it at present.
In solidarity and with a lot of respect,
Salams
November 21st, 2007 at 12:39 pm
You have read a lot Now read the truth
http://www.hulchul.net/HC/lofiversion/index.php/t155101.html
November 21st, 2007 at 12:49 pm
This letter is absolutely fake - No Prime Minister would be so reckless or callous to write such a stupid letter in which she would say she wished that Rajiv Ghandi was Prime Minister rather than VP Singh.
BB can be anything but so reckless.
As for Musharraf it is now open secret that Americans are in possession of nuclear weapons of Pakistan - that is why they appear to be so relaxed and happy and Bush is supporting Musharraf to the maximum.
So Pakistan your Kashmir is gone and your nuclear weapons are gone - thanks to PM
November 21st, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Hi
I have noticed that the USA media and Karzai government of Afghanistan are not accusing Pakistan of supporting “terrorists” and Taliban anymore. Question:
Does anyone know if the Talban actions in Afghanistan have subsided?
Has Pakistan been successful in curbing the “infiltration” of Taliban from Pakistan?
Why they are quite now? Did they want Pakistan to be in turmoil? Can someone help me to solve this puzzle?
November 21st, 2007 at 12:57 pm
Zeeshan:
even if its true than all it suggests that rouge army is the cause and unless their supply chain is stopped, they will continue with their ambitions like conquering own people, kargil, and nuke etc.
army can’t respect country’s law and own it. so best is to cut their sources & resources.
indeed army can be traced back to all allegations on politicians.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:02 pm
PERVAIZ MUSHARRAF HAS INTRODUCED A NEW ORDINANCE BY WHICH HIS ACTIONS FROM 3RD NOV TO 20 NOV CANNOT BE CHALLENGED IN TEH COURT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I THINK HE IS GOING TO GIVE UP HIS UNIFORM SOON BY END OF THIS WEEK ACCORDING TO AG LOTA JUSTICE QAYUUM.
SHARIF IS PROBABLY COMING BACK TO PAKISTAN IN A WEEK
I BELIEVE THEN US DIPLOMACY IS WORKING - HOPEFULLY BUT i AM NOT SURE IF JUDGES WOULD BE REINSTATED OR NOT
BB IS CRYING THAT THERE WOULD BE RIGGING OF POLLS BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE REALISED BEFORE SHE ENTERED IN TALKS WITH MUSHARRAF. HER BIGGEST BLUNDER WAS TO TALK TO MUSHARRAF.
From the past if anything can be learnt it is that Musharraf cannot be trusted under any circumstances because he uses everyone and then dump them
November 21st, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Any news about GEO coming back?
November 21st, 2007 at 1:07 pm
S Khan:
simple is that Pakistan Army has now to fight in Pakistan and the only difference that this Army can make i.e. Nuke is now under their full control. having done so successfully, all stakeholders now want to sit aside and keep watching the show.
See who is more being killed (in numbers)? Pak Army
India is also happy because they were in once this position in Kashmir but not now
November 21st, 2007 at 1:07 pm
@S Khan
You took the point. I was thinking the same.
Yeah, I don’t know why. May be Karzai read the script from Washington tried to Mushraf to engage army so that NATO would have less numbers of casualties.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:14 pm
I don’t second these kinds of stories that nukes are under control of Americans. These stories have just sprang up in western media to furtger aggravate the situation in Pakistan.
The western media cannot be our friend. The so called nuke proliferation scam, there were many western scientist and companies involved but they deliberately hide them and tried their best to malign our hero in our eyes.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:16 pm
@Pejamistri,
Geo News update added for today.
http://pkpolitics.com/2007/11/21/news-1-21-november-07/
I will try to post 2-3 updates on daily basis from Internet.
Admin
November 21st, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Dear Admin, I wanted to send an article to you to post on the site. This is in resposnse to the article written by Ahmad Qureshi “The Plan to Topple Pakistan Military� published on his website http://www.ahmadqureshi.com on 19th Nov 2007. I feel it should be properly answered.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Sorry Admin, I was asking how to send you the article?
November 21st, 2007 at 1:20 pm
jojo:
little correction: it was in fact Pak Army General, Musharraf by name, who malign our hero. None of the Army including retired generals came in support, not even general public or judiciary. Media needs story and rest is history.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:23 pm
@Ahmad Bhai
Yeah you are quite right that mush had a big share in that story.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Imran Khan and the Rest of the leaders:
Ik is emerging as a strong leader with strong ideas, positive goal and strength of giving sacrifice to get the goal.
I feel that our old politicians, who like to have comfortable life, power sharings, zigzag deviations in their agendas, those who cheat people with beautiful words and at the end of the day smile at innocent fooled people, those who in the name of improving economy of Pakistan imrove their own and of their relatives’ economies, those who look for the support of friend-like enemy USA/UK, those who leave their own party people from accountabilities, those who are caught up in wadera/chauhdary/muhajir system, those who can’t think beyond getting votes for their party, those who get easy money through bribery/bhata, those who feel proud of their protocoles, those who take their wonderful meals before their own people could find something to eat, those who regularly call in GHQ for help atc., can’t bear a person like IK.
If IK comes into power then all these old monkies will have to correct themselves and that is something very very hard for them. Cheating, greed and lies is somehow in their bloods now.
I am not sure if old politicians would support anyone else who might be more capable, better leader, straightforward and sincere!
Lets hope that our politicains can think beyond their normal dirty politics of pulling each others legs, point scoring, vested interests and lies. Lets hope and pray.
Anyway, we must remain steadfast and focused with strong faiths, brave thinking and positive actions in all conditions.
May Allah guide and help us. Aamin.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:25 pm
chussain:
shah Irans’ likewise trials do not need any court or pco or any ordinance. Just wait for the time which is near to come.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:32 pm
I am happy with increased tyranny as this will soon reach its maximum level beyond which it has to fall back.
Now who else fall down, the whole nation? it depends on people struggle and attitude.
a further hope as well as sad news the arrest of Justice (r) Wajiuddin
November 21st, 2007 at 1:42 pm
For those who might have read the book of Ayesha Sidiqqa another excellent piece of writing by her on tbis website:
http://www.asian-affairs.com/Terrorism/siddiqa-agha.html
November 21st, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Congratulations folks! Now you can import bullet-proof vehicles without paying any custom duty…
November 21st, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Worst Conditions:
I feeling that in worst conditions(God-Forbid) we might be attacked by USA or India although they will have to think 1000 times before doing so because it will be almost impossible to contain Pakistanis, they have already learnt it in Kashmir and Afghanistan(although both these fronts were politicaly motivated). In addition to that normal lower army soldiers will be nightmare for them. Also it will be very hard to contain Pakistanis living abroad, they will really make a big difference by peaceful but determined efforts in respective countries.
Secondly, i feel that normal soldiers of PK Army(and not most of the Generals and higher ranks of Army, only sincere ones) at the end will join people of Pakistan if current situation continues. That will be real fun for all corrupt groups of the society(including Corrupt Army Generals) and they will tremble even imagining that!!! So PK Army Generals, still have sometime for self correction.
We must not be afraid since fear(from false gods) is one of the worst enemy of human beings. Maximum must be achieved through peacefuls means though.
My opinion.
November 21st, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Breaking News
Ex-Cricket Star Khan To Be Released From Jail
Updated:13:38, Wednesday November 21, 2007
Pakistani authorities will release hunger-striking cricket legend Imran Khan from jail within hours, a government official has said.
Courtesy:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1293756,00.html
November 21st, 2007 at 2:02 pm
nota:
an maybe in hurry the import non-bullet proof version as well
November 21st, 2007 at 2:06 pm
http://express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=National_PAGE&Date=20071121&Pageno=3&View=1%20id=
Chraghan by Haroon Rasheed
When I see a diehard Jamaatiya turned against Jamaatiya, its the downfall of both JI&IJT.
Longlive IK for enlightening the people.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:07 pm
BB has been clever enough for innocent pakistanis. she is mostly stressing General Musharraf these days to remove the uniform and her tone is more requesting than demanding. Wehreas the Attorney General has himself said that by this weekedn after the decision of the court, the General will doff his uniform. So she wants to take credit of this issue.
the General has conveyed the real message to shah of Saudi Arbaia that they should keep NS quiet and refrain him from coming to Pakistan. Sheer phone call was not enough in this case… Amazing.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:16 pm
@ Students
Plan to support Imran Khan, we must not let him die!!!!
@ PU/LUMS/QUI/Other students
A hunger strike at respective institutes would be a good way to support IK!!!
Please don’t be relaxed.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Asif:
Haroon Rasheed himself is severely threatened by IJT.
the best is still Abbas Ather’s column today corougeously revealing IJT/JI’s badmashee…
do read that column in express
November 21st, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Justice Wajihuddin arrested
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=32631
November 21st, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Zaheer:
Students in institutes like bahria are threatened expulsion even if found discussing politics.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:21 pm
http://express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=City_Page&Date=20071121&Pageno=2&View=1%20id=
Waris Mir the father of Hamid Mir & IJT Goondaghardi
November 21st, 2007 at 2:25 pm
@ Ahmed Bhai
Such psychological pressures will always remain there like in Bahria institute but if majority of students decides for an action then adminsitration can do very very little. If Pakistan is strong then institutes are also strong otherwise one day everything might collapse.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:26 pm
@Ahmed Bhai
Its time to get rid of all KGMs(Kabza Group Mentality), virtualy controling all of the institution & civil society as well.
Injustice gave rise to KGMs & the rise of justice is the death of KGMs.
Longlive IK for denting the KGMs
November 21st, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Very good article by Abbas Ather in express about Waris Mir.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Anneza:
One eye witness told me that in Islamabad club where Justice had lunch with western media, there were some NGOs ladies and Justice only said to them that their support is needed!!
November 21st, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Karachi & Lahore are twin cities in the sense that both are being virtualy controlled by KGMs, one religous & the other one non-religous, JI&MQM.
IK has dented very successfuly both of them. IKs movement for justice is the real threat to these KGMs, so these KGMs are trying their best to stop IK from youth.
Longlive IK, your efforts are bearing fruit.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Guys I have been getting replies from my MPs in the UK and EU parliament. If more of you write, the will put more pressure on Mush (they are Mush’s gods, you know!!). Make one or two paragraphs and keep sending them anywhere and every where!
For UK
http://www.writetothem.com/
November 21st, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Those who live in the US are requested to write to Senators. Make one or two good paragraphs, tell them that Musharraf is playing double game and he supports extremists through secret channels to get US aid. You may copy and paste those paragraphs to as many senators as you like.
To assure those who might be frightened to write (it is quite normal for Pakistanis), I have written to many world leaders and local and International bodies and no agency follows you. They are not after the people who express themselves through their writings.
For their contact information and email addresses, please visit:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
November 21st, 2007 at 2:55 pm
***************Breaking News**************
Imran Khan released!
November 21st, 2007 at 3:01 pm
good new as saw on BBC
November 21st, 2007 at 3:06 pm
For the citizens of Pakistan another great column writtenby Naeem Zehra in Khaleej Times
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/ColumnistHomeNew.asp?section=nasimzehra&col=yes