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		<title>By: Nadeem Khan</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36736</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadeem Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know what media and what GM is saying. What heppens:
1. When NS was sennt back to SA.
2. When CJ and other judges thrown out.
3. What so many people were taken into jail.
4. etc.
Nothing is going to happen in PAK. Because every one is hungry for power.
According to GM even if APDM (includiing every one) wins 91 seats out of 272, what is the guarantee that those 91 will oppose Musharad after wining the seats. 
In 2002 there was PPPP (Patriots), you can easuly get votes from those at  that time. Specially Maulana FR is ready and many others.
So all these talks are bull shit. I still lile this site but belive me nothing is happening in PAK, it will remain like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know what media and what GM is saying. What heppens:<br />
1. When NS was sennt back to SA.<br />
2. When CJ and other judges thrown out.<br />
3. What so many people were taken into jail.<br />
4. etc.<br />
Nothing is going to happen in PAK. Because every one is hungry for power.<br />
According to GM even if APDM (includiing every one) wins 91 seats out of 272, what is the guarantee that those 91 will oppose Musharad after wining the seats.<br />
In 2002 there was PPPP (Patriots), you can easuly get votes from those at  that time. Specially Maulana FR is ready and many others.<br />
So all these talks are bull shit. I still lile this site but belive me nothing is happening in PAK, it will remain like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36113</link>
		<dc:creator>Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicians and lawyers made Pakistan and only a democracy can keep it safe. It was not made for the Army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians and lawyers made Pakistan and only a democracy can keep it safe. It was not made for the Army.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36109</link>
		<dc:creator>Kami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Maan
Ahmad Qureshi's biggest tribute is to PTV world. He has insulted Pakistani media like hell (read his articles).

As for this article, it is load of bull****, but I pray that this is true because Pakistan will be stronger without R0gue army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maan<br />
Ahmad Qureshi&#8217;s biggest tribute is to PTV world. He has insulted Pakistani media like hell (read his articles).</p>
<p>As for this article, it is load of bull****, but I pray that this is true because Pakistan will be stronger without R0gue army.</p>
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		<title>By: Wajid Malik</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36098</link>
		<dc:creator>Wajid Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ahson,

No body is wise and courageous like those honorable judges and the lawyers community. They all have done us proud.

I am sure the boycott from the nation has been the best option to put real pressure on Mush to restore the judges. As from the assembly they is very little hope. The election results will be definitely engineered as Mush doesn't afford a fair election.

But the objective of boycott can only be achieved if it is done by all opposition parties. Even if fazl Ur Rehman goes in election that doesn't make much difference but when PPP, which is a major party, decided to contest elections after all efforts to convince them for boycott, the option of boycott has lost its significance and now when Q League, PPP, MQM, Fazl Ur Rehman and ANP are going in elections, the world would also accept these fraudulent elections. Under these circumstances the best option is to not divide along ourselves but to unite our forces and go in elections and make sure that Mush parties do not get 2/3rd majority to legitimize his unconstitutional acts of Nov. 03. 
All Mush parties including PPP are  not talking about restoration of judges but using the word of free judiciary as mere lip service. NS is very firmly demanding the restoration of judges even when his party is in elections (He and SS are not in elections as their papers were rejected and they didn't appeal to PCO judges).

Please do not forget the struggle of last 8 years by NS and his party. They proved as the real opposition along with IK and Achekzai where as MMA always played the role of friendly opposition.

These years have been very difficult for PML N and they stood firm. The leaders remained in jails and wer put in exile. NS remained in jail for 22 months where he was given some real tough time. Now you can understand how difficult the dictators jail can be as you know some lawyer leaders like great Munir Malik, Justice Tariq have also been through. Javed Hashmi remained in jail for long but he was denied the justice for years. 

Though I hate giving personal example, I tell you I saw my own 70 years old father in jail where I could see him in the presence of an IB person. If my father had bowed to Mush and Q League, we could get a lot.

Those sacrifices and the real opposition of Mush was NOT to shake hands with Mush. Had that been the case, PML N would have also been a FRIENDLY OPPOSITION like MMA and Qazi sb.

The stand for the restoration of judges, restoration of constitution and a democractic Pakistan free from dictatorship is a dream and InshaAllah will come true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ahson,</p>
<p>No body is wise and courageous like those honorable judges and the lawyers community. They all have done us proud.</p>
<p>I am sure the boycott from the nation has been the best option to put real pressure on Mush to restore the judges. As from the assembly they is very little hope. The election results will be definitely engineered as Mush doesn&#8217;t afford a fair election.</p>
<p>But the objective of boycott can only be achieved if it is done by all opposition parties. Even if fazl Ur Rehman goes in election that doesn&#8217;t make much difference but when PPP, which is a major party, decided to contest elections after all efforts to convince them for boycott, the option of boycott has lost its significance and now when Q League, PPP, MQM, Fazl Ur Rehman and ANP are going in elections, the world would also accept these fraudulent elections. Under these circumstances the best option is to not divide along ourselves but to unite our forces and go in elections and make sure that Mush parties do not get 2/3rd majority to legitimize his unconstitutional acts of Nov. 03.<br />
All Mush parties including PPP are  not talking about restoration of judges but using the word of free judiciary as mere lip service. NS is very firmly demanding the restoration of judges even when his party is in elections (He and SS are not in elections as their papers were rejected and they didn&#8217;t appeal to PCO judges).</p>
<p>Please do not forget the struggle of last 8 years by NS and his party. They proved as the real opposition along with IK and Achekzai where as MMA always played the role of friendly opposition.</p>
<p>These years have been very difficult for PML N and they stood firm. The leaders remained in jails and wer put in exile. NS remained in jail for 22 months where he was given some real tough time. Now you can understand how difficult the dictators jail can be as you know some lawyer leaders like great Munir Malik, Justice Tariq have also been through. Javed Hashmi remained in jail for long but he was denied the justice for years. </p>
<p>Though I hate giving personal example, I tell you I saw my own 70 years old father in jail where I could see him in the presence of an IB person. If my father had bowed to Mush and Q League, we could get a lot.</p>
<p>Those sacrifices and the real opposition of Mush was NOT to shake hands with Mush. Had that been the case, PML N would have also been a FRIENDLY OPPOSITION like MMA and Qazi sb.</p>
<p>The stand for the restoration of judges, restoration of constitution and a democractic Pakistan free from dictatorship is a dream and InshaAllah will come true.</p>
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		<title>By: Wajid Malik</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36086</link>
		<dc:creator>Wajid Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FM

I respect your opinion. I am sure you are sincere in your comments.

I believe Qazi Hussain Ahmad is the same person who voted for 17th amendment and from the same MMA who played tricks not to disolve NWFP assembly till Mush presidential election was over. They are still the same who always helped Mush in last 5 years and played the role of friendly opposition.

They are the same who gave DHARNAs against Nawaz Sharif Govt when Vajpai came to Minar-i-Pakistan rather gave bath to Minar-i-Pakistan. They are the same who started protests against NS on one point agenda of Nawaz Sharif Hatao but during Mush time they forgot all those DHUNAs and one point agendas as they did not receive instructions from ISI I guess and from back doors they always helped Mush.

This boycott thing has emerged from no where and they are now just trying to make sure that some how Mush party gets 2/3rd majority to legitimize Mush actions of Nov. 3 from the next assembly.

I know Imran Khan and Mahmood Achekzai are sincere people but about Qazi sb I have doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FM</p>
<p>I respect your opinion. I am sure you are sincere in your comments.</p>
<p>I believe Qazi Hussain Ahmad is the same person who voted for 17th amendment and from the same MMA who played tricks not to disolve NWFP assembly till Mush presidential election was over. They are still the same who always helped Mush in last 5 years and played the role of friendly opposition.</p>
<p>They are the same who gave DHARNAs against Nawaz Sharif Govt when Vajpai came to Minar-i-Pakistan rather gave bath to Minar-i-Pakistan. They are the same who started protests against NS on one point agenda of Nawaz Sharif Hatao but during Mush time they forgot all those DHUNAs and one point agendas as they did not receive instructions from ISI I guess and from back doors they always helped Mush.</p>
<p>This boycott thing has emerged from no where and they are now just trying to make sure that some how Mush party gets 2/3rd majority to legitimize Mush actions of Nov. 3 from the next assembly.</p>
<p>I know Imran Khan and Mahmood Achekzai are sincere people but about Qazi sb I have doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wajid

.How participation in election can bring the brave judges back on the job

.Do you or the leaders of participating parties are more wise and sincere to the restoration of November 03 Judiciary than Lawers leader ship and Brave Judges Them selves ,all are calling for boycott of fraudlent election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wajid</p>
<p>.How participation in election can bring the brave judges back on the job</p>
<p>.Do you or the leaders of participating parties are more wise and sincere to the restoration of November 03 Judiciary than Lawers leader ship and Brave Judges Them selves ,all are calling for boycott of fraudlent election</p>
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		<title>By: FM</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36062</link>
		<dc:creator>FM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Wajid, 

IK and Achakzai should support NS and keep away from Qazi, because he is still demanding restoration of judges and NS didn't.

And a big threat if these judges restore, NS and other corrupted leader may accountable, which they do not like at all.

GO Qazi,
GO Judges,
GO IK
GO Achakzai.

Welcome: NS, PMLQ, PPP, FAZLU, MQM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Wajid, </p>
<p>IK and Achakzai should support NS and keep away from Qazi, because he is still demanding restoration of judges and NS didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And a big threat if these judges restore, NS and other corrupted leader may accountable, which they do not like at all.</p>
<p>GO Qazi,<br />
GO Judges,<br />
GO IK<br />
GO Achakzai.</p>
<p>Welcome: NS, PMLQ, PPP, FAZLU, MQM.</p>
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		<title>By: Wajid Malik</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36050</link>
		<dc:creator>Wajid Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't really know what slogan Qanchi League is using. Secondly Q League is party of Musharraf. No body in the world is talking about them as they are NOT worth it. They have been with dictator throughout those 5 years openly.

Explicitly I condemn Q League role just to make you believe that I will be the last person on earth to ever side with those forces who are helping the dictator.

Here we are just discussing the role of opposition parties.

People of Pakistan really are Islam lovers and no so-called "enlightened moderation" is acceptable here.

That is only why 5 years back people voted for MMA as it showed that it was Anti Musharraf and Anti US but in real they always came up to help Musharraf in all difficult times and in that help whether it was Fazl Ur Rehman or Qazi Hussain Ahmad, they remained united.

In real they played the role of 'Friednly Opposition' for Mush and hence they lost their credibility. 

Had they stood firm and played real opposition role like Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif and nationalists, people of Pakistan would have been with them and they would have been in a position to win a land slide victory in these eelctions but Alas! this didn't happen. They proved themselves as hypocrites and they legitimize Mush action of 1999 through 17th amendment and they also helped him in Presidential elections by NOT dissolving the NWFP assembly. (They also enjoyed Govt. with Q League in baluchistan)

Now JI should stop playing the role of ISI. We need united when they have failed to stop fazl Ur Rehman from contesting elections. PPP is also in elections. The boycott option has become meaningless in my opinion because of them.

We need united real opposition of Musharraf and that real opposition is Nawaz Sharif, Imran Khan, Mahmood Achekzai and all nationalist parties. JI can also be there if they get rid of Fazl Ur Rehman and stops working for ISI.

Finally no Mush ever can make Pakistan a so-called 'ROSHAN KHIYAL' state.

We have our identity as Islamic State and we feel pride in that identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know what slogan Qanchi League is using. Secondly Q League is party of Musharraf. No body in the world is talking about them as they are NOT worth it. They have been with dictator throughout those 5 years openly.</p>
<p>Explicitly I condemn Q League role just to make you believe that I will be the last person on earth to ever side with those forces who are helping the dictator.</p>
<p>Here we are just discussing the role of opposition parties.</p>
<p>People of Pakistan really are Islam lovers and no so-called &#8220;enlightened moderation&#8221; is acceptable here.</p>
<p>That is only why 5 years back people voted for MMA as it showed that it was Anti Musharraf and Anti US but in real they always came up to help Musharraf in all difficult times and in that help whether it was Fazl Ur Rehman or Qazi Hussain Ahmad, they remained united.</p>
<p>In real they played the role of &#8216;Friednly Opposition&#8217; for Mush and hence they lost their credibility. </p>
<p>Had they stood firm and played real opposition role like Imran Khan and Nawaz Sharif and nationalists, people of Pakistan would have been with them and they would have been in a position to win a land slide victory in these eelctions but Alas! this didn&#8217;t happen. They proved themselves as hypocrites and they legitimize Mush action of 1999 through 17th amendment and they also helped him in Presidential elections by NOT dissolving the NWFP assembly. (They also enjoyed Govt. with Q League in baluchistan)</p>
<p>Now JI should stop playing the role of ISI. We need united when they have failed to stop fazl Ur Rehman from contesting elections. PPP is also in elections. The boycott option has become meaningless in my opinion because of them.</p>
<p>We need united real opposition of Musharraf and that real opposition is Nawaz Sharif, Imran Khan, Mahmood Achekzai and all nationalist parties. JI can also be there if they get rid of Fazl Ur Rehman and stops working for ISI.</p>
<p>Finally no Mush ever can make Pakistan a so-called &#8216;ROSHAN KHIYAL&#8217; state.</p>
<p>We have our identity as Islamic State and we feel pride in that identity.</p>
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		<title>By: maan</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/10/better-pakistan-10-december-07/#comment-36037</link>
		<dc:creator>maan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military

http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/latest_col.php?id=6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/latest_col.php?id=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahmedquraishi.com/latest_col.php?id=6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanweer Amjad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanweer Amjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way NS has been saying the same throughout his political career, in the interviews, that we will have an islamic system. And yes I remember, Mush also says this in every official religious gathering like seerat conference. Who do you think they are making fool.
for me all political parties, religious, pro-religious, secular can be good. But anti-religious parties would prove the worst of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way NS has been saying the same throughout his political career, in the interviews, that we will have an islamic system. And yes I remember, Mush also says this in every official religious gathering like seerat conference. Who do you think they are making fool.<br />
for me all political parties, religious, pro-religious, secular can be good. But anti-religious parties would prove the worst of all.</p>
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