‘BIG’ Change Expected before 15th December 07
Daily Jang says that a BIG change is expected in Pakistan before 15th December, the day Emergency is supposed to be lifted by President (i) Musharraf. Benazir Bhutto is in Dubai for meetings with some noted personalities from West.
Attorney General Malik Qayyum has followed Benazir to Dubai after last minute meetings with Sharifuddin Pirzada and Musharraf.
Benazir has reportedly offered seat adjustments to Nawaz Sharif in return for blocking 18th Amendment in the Parliament.
What could be the BIG change? Please share your views below …
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Very little is expected from BB to be positive.
NS is sucked again into seat adjustment.
boycott is only solution–18th amendment or no amendment makes no difference when Ghunda rule is the only rule.
Whole supreme court has been sacked unconstitutionally–What difference would make 18th amendment
Shakil Sheikh writes in the The News:
“They (Sharifs) begged for exile and got it in 2000 for self-interest. Now, they have retreated from challenging Musharraf. And the days are not far when the Sharifs may have a photo session with Musharraf. Come on Nawaz Sharif, do it now before it is too late!”
It can be a big change
Musharraf will resign. Nothing less than that would be a news.
Musharraf will resign. That is the only news I expect or pray for.
Its very obvious. Musharraf is finding a way to help BB win in the upcoming elections, not because he wants it, because the West would like to see it that way. The obstacle is the Chaudhrys. Musharraf is going to betray those who helped him stay in power since 1999. I would love to see the faces of Shujaat and Pervaiz Elahi after the elections when it all going to be a story of shattered dreams.
any link for this News ?
NS doesnt have a choice. PPP is the real problem. BB ran to Dubai instead of working on NS proposal.
Now NS should contest election and try to get as many seats as possible. Then work with opposition to restore Judiciary and get rid of Murdood Musharraf.
Musharrad has to go. It doesnt matter who becomes PM.
The BIG change means “block the way of civil society movement” & its getting momentum even without skin, so AALAMI SAAMRAJ can’t afford a free & vocal civil society, so by bringing the old & trusted faces they will say the change has happened , we accept it.
Beaware our objective is not a person(with or without skin), but our objective is free & vocal civil society with the backing of free & independent judiciary.
moderation for what?
I don’t get it why Musharraf would need another ammendment. He has already tweaked the constitution to legalize emergency. 17th ammendment was to legalize his presidency not the emergency. We had emergencies before (in fact we lived under emergency more than we lived without it) and I don’t see any ammendments to legalize those. Emergency is a power game, whoever has the power can impose emergency. Look at Nawaz SHarif’s emergency after nuclear explosions…what was the rationale behind it except to loot the foreign exchange accounts?
Secondly, about the big change, don’t hold your breath. I don’t see any big change in the offing. Most of the political parties (at least those that matter) have seen the light and they are going for the elections. Once in the parliment they will act as MMA did during the last five years. Musharraf will be in charge until west keep its support with him. After that, most probably, it would be Zia’s story all over again.
Most of the media is back after signing whatever they needed to sign and things will go back to normal on that front. Lawyers will have their behinds beaten for quite a while (and a bloody good thing as well because of what they do to their clients — may be thats how they are paying for their sins) and hopefully things will calm down on that front too. One thing that I am not seeing in future is (lunatic) justice Ch. sitting in the seat of chief justice of Pakistan. However he can keep all those medals he won for nothing.
I just hate with even this feeling that some western power is dictating us what to do. That why our Spineless politician are at the mercy of US begging to west all the time.
I hope Imran can keep his posture among all these Politicians who are bowing to ground in front of their masters.
big news is…
cj back to court
wajih to be the president
imran the pm
Big change? Maybe Army will kill the mad D0g.
Can’t settle for anything less!!!
Musharraf’s daughter is often seen with Mones Elahi (son of Chore Chaudhries). For me this is a big change where Mush allowed her and using her for some sort of influence in politicians.
No more big change now. That news item in Daily Jang referred to Stand off in the country and need of change being felt.
Since all big parties are taking part now, that change may not be considered inevitable.
i dont thing it is going to be any good news. This never has been since musharraf is in power.All his speeches and press conferences are suffocating. However I tell you that most disliked personality in country is probably not as much as musharraf but infact AG Malik Qayyum. Initially he disguised as a sort of arbitrator but behaved far worse than sharifuddin pirzada.Probably as he is far more ugly as well.His face is like “jagali karti hui bhains” but somebody should still punch his face I pray to make it further horrible
A fresh deal with Benazir may be unveiled to keep Musharraf to power for next 5 years..
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2007-daily/08-12-2007/index.html
MORE POWER TO MUSH TO KILL MORE PAKISTANIS
I don’t think anything bad will happen to Mush’s rule. He is needed by West in Islamabad. This big change may have to do with judiciary minus CJ. Iftikhar.
BIG news…….
Gen.R Musharaf will apologize to the nation for his bad deeds and say good bye and shift to Ankara or Istanbul.
only such kind of news would be considered;big news.
I salute CJ Iftekhar Choudhari,
BIG news…….
Gen.R Musharaf will apologize to the nation for his all bad deeds and say good bye and shift to Ankara or Istanbul.
only such kind of news would be considered;big news.
I salute CJ Iftekhar Choudhari, a real hero of us and we also depend on Imran Khan and few others. These are few in quantity but hopefully, they will bring big news for us and they will lead us towards real Pakistan,God willing.
Mush and benazir in deal to indemnify mush deeds
nothing positive will happen coz pakistani nation deserve this condition.
@ Saima Khan
its a very pessimistic way of putting things, you should rather make some distinction between the corrupt politicians, authoritarian Musharraf and the sacrifices of Judiciary and media, at least after 60 years we have some heroes now, before that people remember only 14 th August 1947 and 25th of March 1992 (when Pakistan won cricket world cup), but I’m sure that 20th July and then 3rd of November gave us more days to add in the diary. Please don’t disgrace the services of respected Chief Justice, lawyers,media and civil society. Those nations who dont respect and acknowledge the servies of their heroes (like we have done in the case of Dr. Kadir) dig the hole for theirselves.
If there is no Justice in a society you can’t expect anything good out of it.
We all need to get going …………
Dil Na Umeed Nahhe Naakaam Hee to Hai
Lumbee Hai Ghum Kee Shaam, Shaam Hee to Hai
Allah Pakistan
no big change these munafiqs played this whole drama to make pakistan people look like fools and horses.
Eventually what ever US wants will be implicated within pakistan and once again Pakistani people will live a miserable life for years to come.
shame on us and our country.
the only solution is to take out all these people and start over a new Islamic State.
and implement the Law of Allah.
@Ali Khan, So you want Mad Gen Zia back and get rid of Mad Gen Mush.
What a goleden era was Zia rule. We are still reaping the benifiting from that rule.
Or let the people decide what they want?
BB is negogiating with Musharraf in Dubai so that she is not distrubed by media there - everytime something happens or is going to happen she is in Dubia
- last time she went to Dubai and emergency was clamped
- now also she has gone there
I would request all the PPP lovers not to trust this woman - as she is using them - she has amassed immense wealth abroad, has got her kids settled in Dubai and is has a very posh life style there and now she wants to do politics on poor of Pakistan. If she is so concerned about the poor why doesnt she bring her kids to Pakistan and let them study in Pakistani colleges and schools.
She is coming to Pakistan to eat Pakistan - and Musharraf should not do a deal with her. Musharraf is thousand times better than this woman - becuase does what he says - but she is a hypocrite
She cheated the whole nation by first demanding reinstatement of CJ and then backing out of it.
She cannot be trusted under any circumstances
Ammar
I agree with you - they are going to dump CJ Iftikhar and restore the rest of judiciary as a middle way.
And as usual BB will claim victory for restoration of judiciary, lifting of emergency as they have doing for Musharraf taking off uniform.. Together with Musharraf & MQM the Washington dream team will take turns in looting the country..
These corrupt politician sold their soul to Satan, WHAT Big Change?
This all drama they all are playing for them self and with them self have no support for and from a common peoples in pakistan…
This pathetic drama should be stop already…
@Chussain
Well Stan will choose Satan to partner with!!! So did Busharaf(LA) have chosen his partner too well…
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plz no more big news plz.
Just like NS started taking credit for the uniform ( which coincidentally coincided with his arrival) BB will take credit for the emergency’s uplifting.
Sigh! There is no light at the end of this tunnel, God Help Us !
@Kashif Hussain
agreed 100%.
Nawaz Sharif taking part in the election can be extremely positive. Above anything else, right now musharraf needs parliament to give validity for his Nov 3rd actions. As it’s stand now, army chief or even president cannot sack supreme court judges or chief justice. His actions remain illegal and tantamount to high treason unless and until parliament validates them.
If ppp and Nawaz sharif had boycotted the elections, then Q-league would have sweeped all the seats in the parliment with two third majority and then musharraf would have easily gotten his amendment to constitution.
He will not get that free walk now. And Nawaz Sharif, PPP or Fazlu would not dare to be part of anything that would validate musharraf’s Nov 3 actions.
I think NS and PPP should corroborate, make seat adjustments, and make it their goal to defeat q-league and form a majority in parliament. If they work together, then civil society and lawyers movement will have powerfull allies in parliament. Don’t forget, parliament is the most powerful institution according to the constitution of Pakistan. As soon as we get away from martial law and move toward the restoration of constitution, the importance of parliament will become evident.
I think the elections might be delayed as its also a major demand of PPP and PML Q. They both want that a new election date be announced.
Plus if u read the news carefully it says ” the change will come on the pretext that judges were defiant, and things are out of control as the civil society is having protests daily……”
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2007-daily/10-12-2007/main.htm
this is the link 8 or 9th news from the bottom i pasted the link yesterday as well!!!!
No in fact PPP wants elecetions as soon as possible.. BB is etching to get on to the chair.. If you had seen her previous press conf with NS she kept saying that we want elections on 8th..
pml-n being kickedout of apdm…and rightly so..
for the first time im feeling like appreciating qazi for siding with truth..
All Gone!
ONLY 2 LEFT for the People of Pakistan.
Imran and Qazi……
See what happens next?
Aamir
But its a fact that no party is prepared for elections and as now NS has decided to contest elections even PML Q needs more time to prepare for “engineered elections” otherwise they will be kicked out from Punjab lets wait and watch, but i dont think Musharaf can restore the Judiciary even without restoring CJ because it will create a even bigger messs where will the present puppets(i dont call them judges) go?? Those who have been appointed from high courts to SC and from lower courts to HCs so restoration of judiciary is not an option at all for Musharaf.
“Verily ALLAH knows the Best”
PPP filed a reference against an other great Army Gen/PCB chief in NAB.
But now he joined PPP.
So guess what will happen to that reference?
But i just want to tell u people don’t expect anything Very BIg or positive like musharaf leaving etc because Revolutions are only caused by Masses and they just really dont occur themselves.
2008 is last year of Bush in power so they want Mush atleast for another one year.
USA has planned BB to couple with Mush to safeguard their interests.
BB has top priority to get waiver of her corruption cases. Mush&Bush have given her indemnity to digest 1.5 billion US$ so she is much obliged to act upon all advices from Bush&Mush.
Slogans of public, constitution ,judiciary etc. etc. all are true lies from BB to make the people fool. The only target is to save US$ 1.5 billion.
Lets have one free and fare elections and PPP will be exposed once for all. BB/PPP can never get more than 30% of National Assembly seats.
On 15th December or onward, big decission as expected is always to further break the foundations of Pakistan as state. Wait for another bomb explossion by Mush to break Pakistan.
nobody seconded my remarks about Malik Qayyum. Probably I cant see properly and need to get my eyesight checked.He might be very gorgeous. Regarding BB she has come back according to a plan spearheaded by USA.If she creates any problem for Musharraf USA will activate her swiss cases.Amin Faheem looked ugly yesterday when he remarked that same judges took oath on PCO in 1999.Cant he have a sense to appreciate different circumstances . PPP is playing a dirty game. Regarding Nawaz\Sharif he is a hostage to circumstances.But his role has brought no good. He offended BB in APC by calling Maulana Fazl ur rehman.Now he has offended Qazi Sb and Imran & co.Lead to breaking of ARD abd now APDM. He is no more a uniting force.His political credibility is loosing fast. We must beg both of them that if they are really anti Musharraf they must now in elections do a seat adjustment to block the election of Musharrafs chamchas so that he cannot get validation of his illegal and cruel actions of Nov.3 and afterwards.Once we get rid of this menace musharraf and co the elections can be held again where parties should contest the elections on the basis of their menifesto specially on their ideas on health and education and independent judiciary
TO ALL REVOLUTIONARIES!!
We should have a planned and systemetic change and not an overhaul overnight.
We need to show maturity in thought and actions when considering a young nation that needs continuity and change.
Please note, I am not an avid supporter of Mush or any party in particular just a concerned Pakistani who thinks we should stop having kneejerk reactions.
PPP might cut a deal with musharraf. It is plausible that ppp agree to an amendment that allows musharraf to remain president, restore the judges, and lift the ban on third time premiership.
TO ALL with AMNESIA?
Can you remember when the people celebrated when the political partices were thrown out.
We should have stood up than against DICTATOR and CORRUPT POLITICIANS.
So lets not start thinking (yet again) that the politicians will save us. Has anyone made a demand that these politicians should be cleared of ALL charges of corruption and nepotism.
Otherwise, we will see a repeat in 8-10 years…back to Dictatorship.
The key is to vote clean people on people’s Manefesto and NOT Personalities, Fear and Favouratism.
Pakistan - Zindabad
@Morad
where was this maturity couple of weeks ago. when NS was advocating for boycott & restoration of judiciary first.
Just to hack the sympathies of civil societys movement, for your kind info we are in this mess due to the far-sightedness of NS when he decided to promote madcow as chief by superceding the senior generals.
Don’t forget it.
I further want to point out the hypocracy of BB. She did not come herself to APC in London on the plea that APC was being attended by Mullahs. I think as a principle that was right but why is she now talking with Fazal ur Rehman and doing seat adjustment with him.If she is or for that reason all of them are pro democratic and anti musharraf they should now do a seat adjustment and block all the chamchas. Otherwise all the sensible people of Pakisan will be right to assume that this is all nura kushti.Also I will like to request the parties bycotting the election that they should continue protests in collaboration with civil society but dont try to stop voters from going to polls as this will be indirect facilitation of pro Musharraf people because Pro Musharraf voters (about 10-15%) will go to vote anyway but anti musharraf voters will not go to polls. So Musharraf lobby will benifit. Later on when Musharraf is kicked out there should be another election.___________how wishful.
@Asif
Please note, I do not support any of the corrupt politicians currently getting ready for their slice of the Pakistani Power matrix.
I am simply stating that countries that have kneejerk reactions lead to distruction.
We as civil society should maintain pressure on Government throughout; through Civil Society and Instituitions. NOT just wait for eight years and than rise once we have had enough. We should ensure that we do not get to this situation.
Thus you have to start from somewhere. Let the process take place and keep the pressure on MUSH and the elected goverment to stay on a clean path and evaluate performance on policies and implementation; no matter which party it is.
Its not a kneejerk reaction, its been going on for quite a while, so its a lame excuse to go for sham elections.
Whatever the supposed big change is, its not going to be for good. I don’t expect anything sincere from Benazir particularly. Moreover, after looking at PML-N and APDM, even if these guys are not as cunning and underhanded as BB, they are no better since they lack the courage to oppose and fight. Whatever change comes (if it comes) will be through blessings of US and that is enough to show that it will have a hidden agenda behind it. Our last hope of self discovery, of standing up to principles, of independence is gone. It doesn’t matter now who comes and rules, its going to be the same instability, the same hide and seek of army, politicians and judiciary. It was not about Musharraf and his uniform, it was about rule of law. Even if Benazir, with some deals, ends up decapacitating Musharraf, it will not be our triumph but of the puppeteers who pull our strings. These last few months were like a brief awakening where we showed some courage and ability to make our own choices and take our own decisions but now we are the same opiumed masses.
role of both major political parties in the past was not remarkable.However one should hope that they should learn something from their past mistakes. They probably might not be so wreckless as in past because of present public awareness and such an active media(if restored). Problem is that political parties are way forward. From this second rate leafership we might get some first grade leadership someday provided system runs. Unfortunately there is no strong national third force Imran Khan is areal hope but he is no where near getting an across the board support and likely win in elections. But he will keep these two parties on the toe. Further we know that political parties can only go to certain extent while doing illegal things because there are some checks and balances.as an example NS wanted or tried to become amir ul momineen but was blocked by senate. In the worst case there govts. were broken. In ideal circumstances in the next election people will throw them out if they still perform badly. Compare it with the extent to which people like Musharraf can go. They even do cout against themselves.violate the constitution> Nawaz Sharif send some mustandas outside Supreme court to do hooliganism outside but they did not go inside the actual building of SC. Compare this with Musharraf who has send 50+ judges home and put lot of them under house arrest.Thats why it is said that worst democracy is still better than total dictators. Thats why I differ from some of our people who think that Musharraf is better than having corrupt leadersTotally wrong approach because people like musharraf mean (ven if they might be sincere) stalemate and the total system collapses when they disappear from the system and nation has to start from scratch.By the way they never are sincere.
@Aneeza
Have trust on those including lawyers and IK.QAZI.ACKZAI who are standing firm for the restoration of brave judges
aneeza
Don’t become so dishearted! Civil society’s awakening that you mentioned has moved Pakistan into a new era. From now on, it will be much harder for a military dictator to take over. Political parties like PPP fazlu and Nawaz Sharif must follow the lead of civil society. They cannot dare back away from the demand of independence judiciary and rule of law. Even if PPP cut a deal, it will has to come through constitutional measures or amendments.
As long as people are willing to fight for rule of law, politicians will have no choice but to follow suit. It will not be business as usual.
I was shocked today to hear from Ansar Burni in Capital Talk. A person talking about human rights justifying the heavy handedness of Police and accusing the lawyers of taking law in their hands. What are his ideas about his boss(Musharraf).Hasnt he taken law in his hands by suspending the constitution. Another failure of Musharraf Aflatoon brain. He said that National Security Coucil will keep the army out of civilian affairs. So where was NSC that Chief of Army Staff has to impose the emergency rather than President doing it. We must all shame and condemn Ansar Burni.Just for 2-3 months of ministership he has blackened his face for good. Please will few of you comment
@ali bokhari
This indicate that why should not have a blind faith on any one ,a champion of some cause to day can be sold out for a price to morrow .We should stand behind those people who are on the right side ,the restoration of brave judges and boyctting the election ,rest are munafiqeen
Does anybody know where I can send a messge to NAWAZ Sharief?
I mean any email, fax etc.
Thanks for your help.
Sharifuddin Pirzada, is the number one when
comes to harm the country, is there any way we can get rid of him.
1st time in Pakistan, we started seeeing some light, But Sharifuddin Pirzada will put
us in dark again. Please get rid of him & his puppet Malik Qayyum.
A big change? Are you …… kidding me!
Lets hope I and my 170 million fellow Honorable and Brave Pakistanis become more patriotic and give up all the mischieviousness we have indulged into.
It is a fact that we Pakistanis, where ever we are, are the cuase of our Country’s disgrace.
Look at our Chinese neighbors.
Come on all of us ! It’s not Dec. 15th.
ITS NOW OR NEVER !
MUSH is going to give indemnity to BB and BB in return will get the removal of ban on 3rd time PM
@ali bokhari
Is capital Talk back on Air? What about Dr. Shahid Masood? Does anyone know?
MERA MATABIQ is going on on GEO
MUSH has tarnished the reputation of bb and ns…..very smart mr mush….you possess all the qualities of a devil…..
you have luck of a devil
brain of a devil..
but you know what your end will be the same like devil’s as well….so no matter what you do ..you will be a looser at end….
sorry above message should be read like this
BB is going to give indemnity to MSUH by 18th amendment and BB in return will get the removal of ban on 3rd time PM
No big chang is expected till the election. Every thing will go as desired or scripted by the master and sub master. As some elements in our oposition are already commited and had underhand deal with masters to work for their agenda.
However after election a drastic chang may be expected. Just like,as Benazir at stearing seat, Mush front seat passenger with break in his hand as usal, while ch.Punjab as conducter and Mulana dzl. as helper, MQM as civilized passenger but also guns in their hands.
The remaining parties and broad based civil society togather on the road shouting APDM (All Peopel, Down Musheraf)
I dont agree with NS but what choice did he have.
He tried his best to convince BB. BB is the real hypocrate.
NS is a politician. I hope his party can dislodge the Chaudry Brother’s hold.
@ali
its not about personalities…its a war bw manipulative politics and politics based on principles….
NS tilted towards the former…shame on him
what is diff bw him and lota league and bb…you tell me….
@ali
its not about personalities…its a war bw manipulative politics and politics based on principles….
NS tilted towards the former
what is diff bw him ,lota league and bb..
do you see any diff..
Nothing will happen. West needs Mush just as they have done it in Egypt with Hosni Mubarak. As long as people of Pakistan do not want change, political parties (PPP, PML, JUI) will not do anything to change the status quo.
NS and BB are both power hungry politicians. They lack vision and wisdom. Don’t expect anything but lame excuses from these opportunistic individuals. They will fool the Pakistani nation as long as we want to be fooled by thiese crooks.
Please open your eyes - all Pakistanis - there is only one genuine leader amongst you to guide you away from disaster and humiliation. Give your all out support for IK - a man of principles, wisdom and a vision for Pakistan!
/Saqib
@usman
if people themselve have to bring change then what is the role of parties…if we have to do every thing ourselves then we dont need politicians….
they are our representetives and they are paid for that…its there job to go with the populare sentiment of public and if they r not doing it then they need to be kicked out by awaam….all we can do is not to vote for these coronies anymore…dont vote at all…
@saqbi
i second u 100%
BB(shia)(jewish made brain washed nation few hundreds yrs ago) with Mush (another jewish brain washed creature) is trying to convert pk as Iraq to kill & weaken muslims in whole world. Soon, big fights will start bt shia & sunni in pk…BUT Media, students & real justice dept (if backed) could make some change.
This is not a big news though. Its happening around the world already.
@Rough Idea
I understand your views/feelings, but I think we should stop blaming west and jews for every evil going on in Pakistan. It is our duty to be honest with Pakistan and not let others/foreigners interfere in Pakistani matters. The enemy is only doing what they are allowed to by some brain damaged people (GHQ and lota politicians)
/Saqib
Times Up for Musharraf.
He has no way out. As soon as he lifts the emergency, there should be article 6 case registered in SC to include all that also helped him included the AG and Dogar for subverting the constitution. Therefore when push comes to shove, the AG and Doggar may simply accuse musharraf of forcing them to do everyting knowing that he is not the army any more.
Why do you think he is still living in the Army house, he cannot trust any civilian security force to protect him. Little does he know….
Therefore he has no choice. He may not be able to trust Doggar even or even his own AG when they all try to save their skins and accuse him forcing them to do everything.
The biggest hurt that Musharraf is facing now is that he is no longer the darling of the west, that, he cares about more than everything else. He is no longer welcome in western capitals like before, no more camp david.
He messes with NS gets the King upset, messes with BB and gets US upset. Poor guy.
Remember when the time for Zia was Up, the Americans sent their own ambassador to accompany zia all the way to the door of Jannat.
Inna Lillahi wa Inna Elaihe Rajeoon
Marhoom Acha Admi tha
BIG CHANGE??
May be this one??
Imagine this….
A new ordinance issued, which says:
- Mush declared life time president
- BB declared life time pm
- with the help of her foriegn friends BB got Mush holed up in his house
- orders issued by BB to hand over all
strategic assests to USA
- Dr AQK handed over to USA on BB’s orders
- NATO and US forces allowed to enter NWFP, FATA and Baluchistan on BB’s orders
- Missile’s program dismanteld on BB’s orders
- Indian forces allowed to enter Punjab on BB’s orders to deal with punjabis and the punjabi army
- Indian forces allowed to enter Sindh on BB’s orders and given safe passage to reach karachi to deal with MQM and other groups
- Rehman dacait (Rehman Malik) made interior minister with additional charge of governor state bank and mush forced to issue ordinance to deduct $8 billion from pakistan’s foriegn exchange ($16 bln) as interest on her frozen looted $1.5 bln
- zardari brought back to pakistan, made investment minister and handed over rest of the $8 bln to safely invest it in off shore companies with bilawal, asifa and bakhtawar as the beneficiaries.
What can you guys do? NOTHING.
What can civil society do? NOTHING.
What can handful of lawyers do? NOTHING. What can students do? Nothing.
What can poor masses do? NOTHING.
What can intelligensia do? NOTHING
what can media do? NOTHING
There is only one way out —:
USE THE POWER OF YOUR VOTE JUDICIOUSLY AND DONT VOTE FOR THIS CORRUPT MAFIA.
Wait and give a chance to a new face. Who that new face could be?
Aitizaz Ahsan? Imran Khan? Wajhiuddin?
YOU DECIDE.
Have anyone watched the Dr. Shahids program?
Inshalla Lawyers will bring a change!!!
Our only hope is Lawyers and Media!
NS, BB all are thugs and thiefs. NS has betrayed all of us again by siding with Mush
Has anyone noticed the complete blackout of NS on TV. He is the only one drawing crowds, but the media did not give any coverage to his Faisalabad rally. While Musharraf can hide this from the media, he can’t hide it from GHQ.
Mushrraf will be kicked out by Kiyani very soon.
Well the big change will be
1.BB and NS in power.
2.Chaudry brothers out because they are use less for Musharaf now.(thats what i believe).
@kruman, I saw NS really on both AAJ and Geo TV. Despite raining It was really impressive show.
We should give some credit to Geo, despite all odds they haven’t budge yet.
As per our dis-information minister, Geo can restart transmission on cable once they signed code of conduct.
Geo has not dropped their flagship anchors yet as many other channels did.
How long? Keep your fingure cross.
Mush and BB will try to consolidate their forces and to forge open alliance along with MQM.The king party will be abandoned by MUsh to dry and withere in the open under hot sun.
NS will steer his party through this election and will be able to garnish majority of the seats, more so in Punjab. He then shall be able to deny indemnity to Mr Mush and will restore the judiciary and the sacked judges.
If all nation unite and stand outside the house on any Sunday and Say
GO MUSHARAF GO
GO MUSHARAF GO
GO MUSHARAF GO
jointly he will not resist the sounds of millions n millions of people.
I hate Musharaf. I love My Chief Justice & Respect the Honourable Judges.
Long Live Chief Justice
What big news now? We’ve seen it all. The only thing that remains to be done is Pakistan being torn apart into 5 pieces. Nothing is news now. With military playing a mistress’ role to Bush, Mush being the “Dalaal” and opportunistic politicians ready to jump on a loaf thrown out to them, nothing is news. Just wait for disappearance of the Sabz Hillali Parcham for good. This country was doomed the day its military was pieced together. By the way, there remains no justification for our existence as a country now. All those idealogies we were taught at school, have been shunned or were those the real reasons for getting a separate land? Just get rid this blood-sucking military, drag them out of their palacial banglows hang them in public and never again ask for “gaurdians of the borders”. Nobobdy is going to hurt you except these blood suckers.
Big news is already here. Musharraf running after his sweethe@rt on a beach in Istanbul:
http://www.mainetoday.com/pets/dogslife/ch and f run pine.jpg
@ Jack
I understand your sentiments and agree with most of your assessment.
Ansar Burney really taken to task in Capital Talk. Why did he become part of the government who has suspended all the human rights. Mazhar Abbas clearly said to him, if you become part of an illegal system, you won’t be listened much by your previous supporters.
So shameful a person like Ansar Burney who has been an effective campaigner for human rights saying that people protesting for restoration of judges should not have taken the law in hand in Multan, Islamabad and other cities.
He mentioned all good things he is doing currently being part of the government, but unfortunately those are the ones which don’t bother human rights violators that much. He never said anything aganst the mush government since the time he is a part of this setup.
I really feel my head down sensing a person like Ansar Burni with a pro-mush thinking.
May Allah save us.
@Dr Umar
I wonder what is driving you; BB-phobia,a PhD on BB or a state of “infatuated and in denial”.
Whatever be the big news… although I am totally against the participation of NS party in elections, I have the feeling that Q-league is sensing its total defeat and they are hiding out from people. I think you can see the worst flour crossing after 2002 elections.
I saw Tauqir Zia joined PPP, and like 2002, all politicians would be told to join PPP, if they want to be in government in 2008, just like it was announced in 2002 that poloticians should join PML(Q).
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………I SINCERLY HOPE THAT MUSHARAF AND HIS GENERALS AS WELL AS ZIA’S SON, AYUB KHAN’S SONS, AKHTAR ABDUR-RAHMAN’S SONS ARE HANGED AND MADE AN EXAMPLE OF…………………………………………………………………………………………
IK and others have made another APDM, have left NS and ANP, and have vowed to protest on streets. geo tv
interestingly hamid gul was with IK and others. This means that he has left NS.
JAVIADS HASHMI’S CHANGING TUNE
http://geo.tv/details.asp?id=13631
@commoner
@Dr Umar
Is there any ambiguity or something strange whatever has mentioned by Dr Umar. Isnt it in accordance to BBs agenda which she used to point out to western media time to time. People has to kick out these two US stooges (Mush BB) out to bring peace and harmony back to pakistan…
@chussain
For one thing you r right, BB cannot be trusted… she is evil and for power she is willing to do anything… remember how shamelessly she told the media that she will handover Dr.A.Q.Khan.
But for Musharraf, I think you are wrong… he is not at all different from BB. he too has done everything to remain in power… he has destroyed every single institution…
So what is the solution? I think we have to support Imran Khan but since he is boycotting the elections best choice for Pakistanis will be to vote for Nawaz Sharif… To save Pakistan public has to go enmass to public booths and vote for Pakistan…
For Nawaz Sharif he has to promise the masses that after getting two third majority he will pave the way for the restoration of all the judiciary including Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry.
@Zenith
“JAVIADS HASHMI’S CHANGING TUNE”
No surprise there
This might be a crude example but I can’t think of one that fits better: Think of politicians as prost*tutes, only with looser morals/less ethics. There is an old American joke that goes:
These politicians are different animals all together. 
Q. What is the difference between a politician and a prost*tute?
A. There are things a prost*tute won’t do for money.
But to be truthful, this is not a joke but a statement of fact. Now I happen to know Justice Ramday’s brother personally. A very decent man and I like him very much as I have learnt a lot from him in our discussions. But you should see him since Nawaz came back. He has been running around like an excited baby. His first action on Nawaz’s return was get his papers ready for filing for the election and all the talk of boycott did not slow him down for a moment. That is one reason I did not believe Nawaz would boycott as this gentleman is high-up in the PML-N and was also the Speaker of Punjab Assembly in the previous government. Now if anyone should have been pressing for a boycott/restoration of judiciary it should have been him. And remember, he is very close to his brother Justice Ramday
Hope this is not the “‘BIG’ Change” you are referring to:
Exile speculation for former Pakistan judge
Another fraud of Musharraf – caught red handed
A few weeks back a survey conducted by the US-based International Public Opinion Polls (IPOP) was published in some Pakistani papers, it was stated that 74% of those surveyed approved that Adolf Mush would get boost in popularity after removing his skin. Now it is proved that all above survey was a fraud and there is no existence of International Public Opinion Polls (IPOP) or that survey.
A disgrace ignored or forgotten?
Article by Rauf Klasra against Malik Qayyum (Popat Raam).
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=9443
@Afzal
“A disgrace ignored or forgotten?”
Certainly not ignored neither forgotten. Remembering that is what has gotten him to where he is. Being a low-life is a prerequisite for holding any position in this government
@Afzal
Seeing the statement below, is it not a pre-requisite for his current role?
Wanted: AG
Pre-qualification: Must be able to perform “sheer abuse of state institutions including judiciary of Pakistan by any chief executive of the country for the mere satisfaction of his/her personal ego and vendetta…” We want someone “who have not only violated the Constitution of Pakistan but also crossed other human and legal limits.” Persons applying must have “also violated the provisions of their oath, which they took while taking over their high offices.” They must “have committed such a crime, which no nation on the earth would ever tolerate”
Opposition against Musharraf is based on jealousy and dislike for his ethnic background. All this rubbish about freedom, civil society and lawyer movement is crap as we all know what these words mean and have meant in Pakistan under our previous leaders.
It is about time that this movement from some semi educated people come out in open and bring the real issue to the front. This is why Pakistan unfortunately eill never succeed as a great nation. In this country people hate others on basis of ethnic background and ignore the good work.
It is mind boggling to me that according to some here Musharraf has done no good at all and all his good work is either due to 9/11 or US aid.
I used the word semi educated because education has failed to bring any change in thinking of such people. Jealousy is not the answer. You leader nawaz got a chance but he acted like a dictator, looted and destroyed the country and was punished by God as he had to leave the country and now mist hate him for that.
Musharraf on the other hand was attacked twice but Allah saved him. People were hoping that he gets killed. People wer hoping that he gets kicked out of the army but he retired gracefullu and IshaAllah we will retire from being a president as well. I actually want him to retire and leave as it is not worth it specially after you see views like what i read here.
May God bless him, May God continue to protect him, He is a patriot and he did job sincerely. Whatever he did was in interest of Pakistan and his actions against terrorists was also correct as proven by recent bombing of school kids
I just hope and pray that Pakistan does not become a nation which does not appreciate good and good people and where good people are hated because of their background and due to jealousy and insecurity of some. Such nations are sometime given a warning and I thought earthquake was such a warning so it is about time that we behave, talk truth, and act as civilized people and not like mad men vilifying one person for our freaked up views. Fear Allah before it gets too late.
@aziz
What good musharraf has done? you did not tell.Your tone looks like MQM. So he has done something good for MQM certainly. Give them total control of Karachi. Honestly I thought that MQM was a good party as it belonged to middle class people. However the way MQM leaders and members speak often made me suspicious about them but what did they do on May 12 opens anybodys eyes. You acted like Mauvalis in Indian films. MQM preferred to be an ethnic rather than a national party. Thats the only good Musharraf did for country. Otherwise hje only tried todo good for himself.
@Aziz
Just because you are insecure about your ethnicity doesn’t mean you have to be blind to truths glaring you in the face
Your first name isn’t Shauki, is it? :p
dont dislike musharraf because ofhis ethnic origin. similarly I dont think it is goodto like somebody only because of hisethnicity as mr aziz is doing.I have disliking for Musharraf for reasons.
he is a liar. He hardly speaks truth. He promised tom shed his uniform in 2004. he did not.
he conducted fraud and rigged elections in 2002. he is going to do it again.
He has made mockery of constitution. Hedestroyed it twice.
He presented a good chargesheet against his government on november3. He was in total control for last 8 years so who was rtesponsible that we were about to be defragmented as nation and going to be a failed state.
he has send more than 50 superior court judges to home. OK he has differences with Iftikhar Ch but what is the crime of other 50.Just that they refused to take oath onPCO. what do you think is superior law. A constitution made by parliament or a PCO prepared by one man overnight.
I hopeyou are not a sadist who enjoys thew scenes of policeheavy handedness, beating and pushing ladies and children.
gagging the media is one of his other achievement. Beating the drum of freeing media all last years but as soon as truth started hurting his person he resorted to tactics as of any other dictator.
On governance and economy he was trying to give steel mill to his friends on peanut price. Stock mareket crashed 3 times. Any enquiry done. PIA bankrupts anybody accountable.
Look at the sky rocketing price of Atta and this year we had record crop.
Mr Nota,
I am not for one second insecure about my ethnicity so please take that out of your head and I expect better responses than what you just said. What I have said is based on my thinking, and after I excluded all possibilities/
I am not that naive that I can’t see what’s the motivation of people here on this forum.
How do I know? because when someone trashes facts and figures and spew hatred against one person without any solid reason then there is no reaosn to think otherwise. When people have problem with one army general and not the army, when people put blame of everything on one person and not on system, when people blame the president for actions of some police officials then there is something else going besides love for freedom.
I am again requesting everyone that it is about time that we become civilized as a nation. The people that you are crying for are the same who bankrupted your country and made billions. Their faces have their character written on them. Do you expect a person who has looted billions and himself a product of Zia to be sincere to poor? Do you accept a wadera’s daughter to give u roti?
Stop this nonsense.
Mr. Bukhari,
If you have problem or are jealous of MQM or development in karachi then it’s none of my concern. You can live with that fact for the rest of your life. Learn to be happy for others. it is good for your health. When we hear that lot good is happening in Punjab then we dont get jealous of that nor we wish them any ill. That helps Pakistan overall. I am all for all areas of Pakistan getting developed and fully educated and the last time I checked the current Punjab govt has done a lot good there. So don’t get jealous at other’s happiness as God doesn’t like such people. Just my advice.
if a urdu speaking person is your problem then get you leader up there..i will be ok with it. I dont think this way and I will be happy to support anyone who is educated, has good background, and is not corrupt.
And don’t ever give me that reason that I am supportine Musharraf because I am from MQM. this tells a lot about your mindset and not anything about me. It just confirms what I have been saying
I don’t have time to responf to all your accusations as most of them are just not worth commenting and are based on the beliefs that everything should be perfect in this world. unfortunately it isnt and it will never be perfect.
Justice ifthikhar and other judges took oath under PCO in 1999 and they have no reason to complain. Musharraf wanted to leave the stage and they were creating hurdles and trying to humiliate him. They were political judges from day one and got what they deserved.
musharraf is not perfect and not everything that he has done is right and he has made lots of mistakes. Relatively speaking he is 1000 times better than leaders previous to him
Have been an avid follower of your blog for a while now. I am 66 years old and have seen lots of leaders come and go. So let me make it clear right from the start that I am not a big fan of Mr. Musharaf by any means. Though by following your blog have realized that maybe such things should happen to ungrateful inconisderate nations. I take strong exceptions to Mr. Ali Bokhari’s remarks about Malik Qayyum. I am retired advocate of the supreme court. I may not agree with Mr. Qayyum’s stance but one thing is for certain he is probably the most learned and courteous lawyer I have add the pleasure of crossing swords with. Saying stuff about one’s God given look says quite alot about the immaturity of the writer (apologies to Mr. Bokhari if I have gone over board). The first and only priority of a lawyer is his client regardless if he is a rapist, murder or pedophile. Accusing Malik Qayyum of representing his client seems a little absurd to me. You, me or even Malik Qayyum are no one to decide. It is the judges who do it. Coming onto the judges, I deeply regret what happened under the PCO. It should not have occured but if we all agree that Mr. Musharaf is not of a sound mind maybe Hon. Justice Iftikhar should have stopped acting like a hero and understood the ground realities. What has happened now? Our judiciary has been thrown back into 1947> even impartial judges have been denied oaths. Please note i do not consider Iftikhar or Ramday as impartial. Stronger heads should have prevailed. I do blame Justice Iftikhar for this equally. Sometimes 1 per cent is better than 99 per cent. he should have let him shed his uniform then do whatever you want with him. You still blame Mr. Qayyum then I guess there is no point to this blog. A lawyer pleads his case just as a doctor should save the life of jew who juist killed 10000 muslims. Taking emotional stances help no one.
Coming onto what this government provided. I live in Lahore. Let me start from the beginning 1)Rescue 1122, 2).all emergencies in Lahore are running 24/7 at free of cost providing standard care (believe had a heart attack last year and was takn to Mayo Hospital), 3). Lahore Airport though started by Shehbaz but completed by thse hooligans 4). Sundar Industrial state 5). Increase in the pay of all govt employees by 70-200 per cent 6). Extension of motor way 7). Gwadar port etc etc… Dont think too much about the negatives my dear sons and daughters. If you see something good at least have the courtesy to give a pat on the back. I for one havent seen so many successful development projects in any era or under any govt. Hope I havent offeneded anyone.
Apologies if I have.
How unfortunate we people are, we dont know who is good and who is bad in pakistan. In the past who ever was hero now is the bad guay and the people who are corrupt are Godfathers of the the nation. I m not expacting any big change because I cant see anyone who could make it done.
We Pakistani oversease are never in a position to justify our country becuase there is no logic behind any scene of Pakistan.
The only news could be that our politicions and high ups start believing on one God and aakhirat, because i think the people who believe on God and Aakhirat never do such things what they have done with us.
Wish you better pakistan everyone there..
Dear Ismail Zia,
Thanks for putting my feelings into a well constructed comment. My point was precisely this. Why is that we in Pakistan fail to appreciate “some good” done by people. When you read such blogs, and I actually like it for the videos, you almost get the feeling that nothing good is happening in the country and everything is bad. Such conlcusions from some people make people like me think that obviously this couldn’t be true and their is something else going on here and perhaps the motivation of these people is personal and not based on facts.
This blog has a great chance of becoming an important factor in politics of Pakistan but unfortunately it has chosen a path of favorsim, bias towards one candidate.
Sorry but this is what i feel. I am never going to believe that nothing good has happened in past 8 years. Karachi has improved 1000 times..that might not mean anything to you but it means a lot to me. And I am not a MQM worker so don’t give me that lame excuse again. I am happy that good things have happened in lahore so good to hear that as well
We should be happy at others success and not get jealous that this happening in karachi and not here.
@Dear Ismail Zia,
I am sure you must be kidding with us. The golden act of this Govt you described are laughable.
The way you defended AG Malik Qayyum make me wonder. Are you saying that Malik Qayyum is personal attorney of Mad Gen or attorney general of pakistan?
If some one is expecting some thing dramatic thats not gona happn, The future of pakistan is very clear old faces with new agendas trying to give pakistanis a new opium, one thing we all need to understand these politicians are bargaining for leverages from the dicators on the basis of Lawyers and media movement we will all see none of them will be able to bring CJ Iftikhar and media on the same level as it was before 3rd of november, they are just threatning Mush not army to get them selves the priminister ship.
Key things should be noted,
Army itself is a problem not Mushharaf Nawaz Sharif is Barking for Mush disposal not Armed forces role in Politics.
BB is trying to save Bhutto dinasty from Swiss cases by serving the western interest well.
And Chaudaries looking to enjoy primeminster ship again.
So where do we an our movement stand its no where and if any one of us is hoping these politicians are going to something for CJ reinstate he must be dreaming, they all are just bargaining for getting more leverage.
And most idiotic person in this whole game is NS who bring Mush for achieving his self proclaimed Demcratic dictatorship and Wanted to remove him to get back into the seat again,
So the Game is Big and critical try to assess are we struggling for own goals or serving somebody elses will to get to the throne.
@Ismail Zia
Sir, I have only one question to you (your generation), Your forefathers (the generation of Iqbal & Quaid)gave the gift of independence to you, What you have given to us(current generation)
to be honest, i am very diappointed with NS, i thought, after such a humilited past he learned somthing poisitve about building a nation, and work for & with people of Pak but sorry to say like all other selfish mean and corrupt politions (who always been a reason for some nasty general to enforce martial law) he is doing the same for sake of few bucks.
dont they think of judicial empowerment, rule of law, if so then why they are participating, why BB meet western highups, dont she believe her own nationmen? they all corrupt and trying and thinking to win election BUT a time will come very soon when civil society will break this unjust system from roots to top.
my advise to all politions is ‘for ALLAH’s sake stop thinking of making money out of this dirty business rather think to build a nation be a leader, not just a western tout’
bless you all, wassalaam
Musharaf is going to change political system… piloting is already started…
Here is what will happen to Musharraf:
Senerio 1. He will leave the country and go into exile in a middle eastern country and eventually die there.
Sererio 2. He will be forced out of power and charged for crimes against humanity (killing innocent people in Waziristan, Balochistan, swat, lal masjid, etc. Also he will be charged with lots of other crimes. The attorney general at that time will find lots of bad things done by him. He will be either hanged or spend rest of his life in prison.
Senerio 3. He will meet a fate line Zia.
I think senerio 1. is his best chance. He should consider that and leave Pakistan alone.
Hope our beloved President quit the country as soon as possible so that our country can prosper under a real democratic government.
@Zia Gondal (Korea)
Yuk na shud do shud
it will be best for us………..
aitazaz cm punjab,
cj back to court
wajih to be the president
imran the pm
kurd cm baluchistan
munir malik cm Sindh
hamid khan cm NWFP
mushraf,bb,chauhdries,N.S ,MqM in jail
Sorry for the delay in the reply. Let me make the situation crystal clear. I am not here to defend nor Musharaf nor Mr. Qayyum. What I was trying to convey to you was that th Attorney General of Pakistan means PERSONAL LAWYER OF THE GOVERNMENT. No matter what his own opinion about any issue is, he is bound by his job to defend the sitting government. He is the first line of defence of the governemnt in all cases against the government. Only my humble opinion. I am open to grilling if you see fit.
The most meaniningful response to my blog was given by Mr. Asif. In reply I to his blog I can only apologize. My generation hasnt really done anything for our future generation. What my generation did including me has only but harmed the nation more than anything. I for one can only take solace in the fact that w are a young nation. It takes time to mature. Then again when I look at India I shudder.
Thirdly, to a reply to M Khan’s statement I say only this ‘it is easy to show the path to a blind man whilst it is impossible to guide one who already knows and can see clearly.’ I do not ask you sir to love this government nor do i say you to hate it. JUst ponder over your choices. A reality check its all between NS and BB. Once again. Compare all the development in there eras combined against the last 8 years. If indeed you can see, just look into your heart and you will know the truth.
In the end again I apologize if at some point in this blog I became personal or caused disrespect to any individual. It was totally unintentional.
By the way just to make the emotional hot heads a little more at ease. I also think that Musharaf should leave the presidency and bid farewell to power politics once and for all.
Only an armed resistance can get rid of this lucifer Musharraf and his MQM and Qutta leaguers! BB is yet another pain in the a$$ and NS, with his recent decision to contest the farcical elections has lived up to the reputation of being the nation’s biggest duffer-e-azam!. If BB becomes PM again and that p|mp R.Malik as interior minister, I will tear up my ID, passport and Domicile and would refuse to recognize Pakistan for eternity!
@ismail Zia
Apologies for commenting on god made features. I have no right too comment. However I am still on my same opinion about his deeds. Historically he is corrupt. I also know he is learned.But you can also use your knowledge for evil cause.You have given a litttle account of achievements of present regime. I am happy about these petty achievements if they were. Factually speaking best achievements materialistically were in Ayub Khan days. However any achievement without a stable political system and rule of law are bound to be destroyed as after Ayubs regime. If you are advocate who should be better than you to know. Sending 60 judges of superior courts to home I salute you that you can still defend that man.That is our bankruptcy as nation
Simple!
PML(Q) will be replaced by PPP.
Some other general….may be not Kiani….. will take mush’s position and the same episode we are enjoying since last 8 years will be replayed.
Is is so disappointing?
True democracy and clear democratic process will reflect the wishes of people and wishes of people are not acceptable by anyone….. neither inside nor outside.
@Aziz
I have absolutely no problem with any urdu speaking. I myself is not urdu speaking but half of my relatives live in Karachi and Alhamdo lillah belong to urdu speaking community. It all started because you gave the comment that people are jelous and dislike Musharraf because of his ethnic background.
i dont think he speaks proper urdu language.He speaks a language of a typical arrogant Fauji. Always talk in a threatening tone and all the time his fist is in air ready to punch .(Hawa mein mukka lahrata Hey).
I gave a list of his achievements which you rejected as usual baseless accusdations.
Try to answer me the allegations and stop playing race card.
promise to shed uniform in 2004.
militarisation of all civil departments.
destroying all the institutions.
privatisation of steel mill.
Stock market crashes.
PIA destruction.
Destruction of Judiciary.
gagging of media.
Atrocities against civil right activists.
Imagine if Nawaz Sh had fired 40 generals in one go these military janta will probably would have hanged him. Do you know these superior court judges are eqivalent or senior than the rank of major general.
He declares everybody against him or even telling truth state enemy beit Tlat Hussain,Kashif Abbassi, Nusrat Javed,Mushtaq Minhas,Shahid Masud,Kamran Khan,Hamid Mir,Ansar Abbasi(all the media anti state).
Talk about facts.
Nothing personal by the way.
i dot want to defend NS but he had no choice to leave field open for LAFAFA mouth Shuja and bb to have 2/3 mojorty to pass 18th amendment.
there will be no 2/3 mojorty and election will be again there in June 2008.
if bb had cooprated with NS and had not participated in elections Maolana F never had dare to contest the election and joint movment of NS and BB mad MUS gone very fast. but she has her commitments with US. on the other hand reconcilation ordinance is still not law and after election MUSH will black mail her when this sham ordinance will expire.
BB n maolana F are b team for MUSH along with LAFAFA MOUTH SHUJA OF GUJRAT.
Pakistani politics ki alif bay pay
alif say altaf,
bay say bb
pay say pejay, kitnay saray
peja ilahi, peja musharraf,
peja kiyani, pejay nay thaani
mulk ko banaaen pejistaan
jahan rahe gi ghareeb awam
more coming in later
To my knowledge I did not observed any big change. I think now The Daily Jang should explain by himself what big change they were expecting.
Ali Bukhari
in response to your comments on Qayyuma, we all agree with you, i think he is Hitler’s lost son. he is a corrupt man and you can see launat on his face
Firstly, I applaud Mr. Ali Bokhari for his nobelity. I have participated in many blogs previously and more often than not someone gets offended over nothing and starts using the F word and all such insults. I commend you sir for showing a big heart and proving to me at least that you belong to an educated background. I sincerely hope I could say the same for Ms. Nighat Khan.
So I will leave Mr. Qayyum at that. I hav found him to be a sincere fellow. Maybe the majority wont agree. So be it. I respect your views.
Mr. Ali you have indeed shown the way. You may not agree with my position but at least we can discuss it in a civilized manner. Your comment that knowledge can be used for evil, made me think why I was bothering to defend our AG (he isnt my uncle by the way).
I agree with Mr. Ali Bokhari that indeed huge strides were made during Ayub’s regime but sadly enough nobody applauded him at that time. Believe me I was there. And here we are decades later saying he made good policies. All I wish is that if one does commit to doing something good and then delivers, please do appreciate it. Thats all I ask. You dont like Musharraf. Dont like him. Whther it be BB, NS or Chudris. I would be the first person to acknlowdge the hanky panky of the Chaudhries but in all honesty they have improved Lahore. Dont vote for them if you dont want to. But do call a spade a spade.
In the end, Ali Bokhari saab BRAVO!
Ismail Zia - thanks for your opinion. It is not the matter whether AG is personal lawyer of goverment or not. But the fact that HE CHOSE TO BECOME ONE - show his level of concience. Wasnt he the guy whose tapes were found where he was following orders to punish BB and Supreme Court was going to punish him and his case was in Supreme Judicial Council. So was that a professional thing to do as a judge.
Secondly his father was also a judge who to please Zia - wrongly convicted Bhutto of murder and got him hanged.
What CJ Iftikhar and others did was absolutely right - we dont go for apologies - for last sixty years these army goons and their minions like AG Qayum have been rap@ing Pakistan and you say that we should see good things.
Go out in market today and see people for yoruself. They are selling their valuables just to make their two ends meet - the price of roti is six ruppees - and you are praising here for Gwader port.
Shame on a person like you - you may be old but to be honest people like you are the ones who brought us to this stage.
You are a lawyer and you are protecting those who break the law. If Musharraf can break Constitution then how do you expect others to obey other laws. Then that means you are teaching 160 million Pakistanis to say goodbye to law.
It is just like asking doctor a sarkari doctor to do abortion - like you are justifying AG Qayum for his actions - after all there is a thing called consience.
I am very much ashmed to read your views and am amazed that at your age - you havent even grasped the basic of law -
Ismail Zia
by teh way even your lahore high court lota judges have issued contempt of court notice to your darling AG today because he swindled his client in one of the cases. What do you say about that?
One more thing which was even better. Today Shabaz Sharif annonced that he is not going to give ticket of PMLN to Pervez Malik (brother of AG) for Lahore. It is high time we dump the family of late Justice Akram once for all and chamchas like you.
Ismail Zia - if Chaudhries have done good for Lahore - then here are some observations
1. Firstly they themselvels live in Lahore
2. They did it because Monis Elahi is standing for election from Lahroe
3. They did it to reduce impact of NS
4. They didnt do it out of their own pocket - on all the projects they spend money from goverment money but put commision for grant of all these tenders in their pocket. - If they have spend anything in Lahore then its not their ehsan - they have used taxpayers money.
5. Ch Pervez Elahi named Multan Insitutte of Cardiology after his name as if that was built by his own money.
Kuch to sharam karo ismael sahib - kabar mein tangein latki hoi hain aur Allah say nahi dartay aur jhoot boltay ho
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