I Dont understand Hamid, and this thinking.
IF he wants to do something about Quaide Azam., he should have done a new program.
We are these guys trying to change public opinion.
Look AT Shahid M today he has done a pessimistic program.
Things to note in SM program, SUBTLE attemt to malign politics and politicians.
Read SHAHAB NAMA ayub khan Tried to malign politicinas in 1958, zia did the same and now musharaf is doing the same.
Hasan nisar is such a useles/ pessimistic person always talking about doomsday scenario, saying people are not interested.
This is whar establishment to malign politicins , so that undemocratic/ presidential system can be established.
WILL THE ANGELS COME AND IMPROVE SITUATION?.
ANSWER: Democracy and more democracy.
MUNNO BHAI AND DR SAFDAR GIVEN VERY LITTLE TIme.
HM & SM will have to mend their ways. if we have appreciated your programs , then we have reason to critcise you on your useless program.
Look AT javed malik, aaj tv election /election programs/ dhandli/
Atleast giving latest news and analysis.
Even talat did an excellent program on role of media with youth A very lively . thought provoking program
HM & SM Please dont do progrms like these, or ruin your credibility
I undestand you are under pressure, but you always give moral lectures to politicians, please ths is time to act. YOU HAVE ADMIRATON OF PEOPLE
What is the useof debate ,if JINNAH was secular or not, Will that change any thing
One thing i sure , he was man of principle, dignity and integrity.
These are the features unfortunately not seen now days.
One modern era,we have two graet statesman, Mandela and Mohatir
India has good leaders too( good for india) like nehru.
Though a repeat telecast that has been objected to with some validity as to its relevance, I think Hamid Mir has cleverly kept AA in the news where you can see him and hear his views especially as they relate to the founder of Pakistan and his vision for Pakistan.
Hamid Mir could very easily have invited some Musharaf hack for propaganda purposes and brownie points but he chose not to do that. I haven’t given up on Hamid Mir as yet… he still has his mojo in my opinion.
How are these panelists picked by the way? Who gets to decide about who will come to these shows and who will not? I wonder about this and the very criteria used in the election process.
These programmes are so Punjab oriented and Punjab centered (with some figures from urban Sindh and NWFP once in a while), with Punjabi politicians dominating the shows, to the point that Punjabi issues and even Punjabi language actually takes control of the shows at times. Almost always, issues that are so crucial to the smaller provinces, like those in Balochistan, are never discussed and people from those provinces are ubiquitous because of their absence in these shows. We don’t hear their voiices, dont’t get to know their concerns and views. I have yet to see people that I am really interested to hear in these shows.
Hamid Mir, Dr. Shahid and others of your ilk, how about inviting Rasool Bakhsh Palejo, Atta Ullah Mengal, Mehmood Khan Achakzai, Sardar Marri, Dr. Abdul Hayee Baloch et.el., to your shows just for a change? After all, they are also Pakistanis, belong to a provincial unit of the country, and are well known political figures in their respective constituencies, even if they are unknown in Punjab and irrelevent to the Punjabi elites whose, often vulgar, voices get so much coverage on your channels. Your acts of ommission in this regard, nay, your pathological indifference, to the concerns of the smaller provinces and the voices of their political figures is just another sign of an ugly phenomenon that has an ignoble history in Punjab in particular and in Pakistan in general. Remember the tragedy of 1971 and the “internally colonized” Bengalis? Learn something from your history and, for once, do the just and right thing!
they are lying, dictioary states clearly what secularism is : it means something which is not related with religion. now was pakistan not related with any religion?… why they are lying?…because if Quaid e Azam is proven as a muslim, and islamic person, Pakistan should become islamic as well…they are against islam, they are hiding in the stupid covers.
Secularism / No secularism
Anyuse of this debate.
We should have tolerance in the society, rule of law and good social values.
First beocme good human being then think about other issues.
JINNAHwas without any doubt , best leader muslim world have in last 100 years.
@ Javed.
Problem with you is that , you cannot come out of your tunnnel vision. Grow up now. Try to give logics.
You have not read my comments completly.
I said unfortunately we dont have any leader having some qualities of JINNAH.
Thisinclude BB and NS as well. BB and NS ARE NOT SIANTS and are not beyond criticism . They have their faults.
I think Capacital Talk would have been more sexy, if hosted by a person other than Hamid Mir. The questions raised by Hamid are not wieghtful. For example in one episode of Capital Talk one of the Guests (perhaps farhat Babar of PPP) was discussing a serious issue and saying that in Pak every day the constitution is amended but Hamid mir at once interrupted him and asked what amendements are made yesterday, before yesterday; So I think this is childish question becuase “every day” is used as an expression to indicate the extreme or hight of some thing.
DEAR ADMIN plz upload TALAT sahab’s program youth dialogue thats a very lively program n i hope that all friends here will like it too.secondly we all should pray that our brave journulists TALAT HUSSAIN,KASHIF ABBASI , MUSHTAQ MINHAS & NUSRAT JAVED shud come back as soon as possible n thirdly guyz like HM & SM shud learn a lesson frm them n atleast shud do sum thought provoking programs rather than spreading cynicysm
MARYIAM
It may be an old program, but it is very relevant to the raging debate amongst commentators on this site. Pls see under “DISCUSS”, the ongoing debate as to whether Pakistan should be an “Islamic” state, governed by Sharia Law, or whether it should be a Secular State.
Additionally, the fact that the program is an old one has no bearing on whether it’s a useful discussion to have or not, these days. This is a topical issue which, like any classical discussion, always has, and always will, affect peoples’ lives on an everyday basis. Hence the relevance.
Religion is a personal matter . We shold atleast become good human being.
Jinnah was the most secular person Remember his first speech to constiruent assembly.
December 25th, 2007 at 12:51 am
I Dont understand Hamid, and this thinking.
IF he wants to do something about Quaide Azam., he should have done a new program.
We are these guys trying to change public opinion.
Look AT Shahid M today he has done a pessimistic program.
Things to note in SM program, SUBTLE attemt to malign politics and politicians.
Read SHAHAB NAMA ayub khan Tried to malign politicinas in 1958, zia did the same and now musharaf is doing the same.
Hasan nisar is such a useles/ pessimistic person always talking about doomsday scenario, saying people are not interested.
This is whar establishment to malign politicins , so that undemocratic/ presidential system can be established.
WILL THE ANGELS COME AND IMPROVE SITUATION?.
ANSWER: Democracy and more democracy.
MUNNO BHAI AND DR SAFDAR GIVEN VERY LITTLE TIme.
HM & SM will have to mend their ways. if we have appreciated your programs , then we have reason to critcise you on your useless program.
Look AT javed malik, aaj tv election /election programs/ dhandli/
Atleast giving latest news and analysis.
Even talat did an excellent program on role of media with youth A very lively . thought provoking program
HM & SM Please dont do progrms like these, or ruin your credibility
I undestand you are under pressure, but you always give moral lectures to politicians, please ths is time to act. YOU HAVE ADMIRATON OF PEOPLE
December 25th, 2007 at 1:26 am
i always wonder how many lives secularism has taken and is taking more and more and still its considered sth which is savier of humanity and lives.
December 25th, 2007 at 1:30 am
What is the useof debate ,if JINNAH was secular or not, Will that change any thing
One thing i sure , he was man of principle, dignity and integrity.
These are the features unfortunately not seen now days.
One modern era,we have two graet statesman, Mandela and Mohatir
India has good leaders too( good for india) like nehru.
December 25th, 2007 at 3:12 am
DeomCAT
What about your “Quaid e Jamhooriat” Amir ul Momineen Nawaz???
December 25th, 2007 at 3:17 am
Though a repeat telecast that has been objected to with some validity as to its relevance, I think Hamid Mir has cleverly kept AA in the news where you can see him and hear his views especially as they relate to the founder of Pakistan and his vision for Pakistan.
Hamid Mir could very easily have invited some Musharaf hack for propaganda purposes and brownie points but he chose not to do that. I haven’t given up on Hamid Mir as yet… he still has his mojo in my opinion.
December 25th, 2007 at 5:28 am
How are these panelists picked by the way? Who gets to decide about who will come to these shows and who will not? I wonder about this and the very criteria used in the election process.
These programmes are so Punjab oriented and Punjab centered (with some figures from urban Sindh and NWFP once in a while), with Punjabi politicians dominating the shows, to the point that Punjabi issues and even Punjabi language actually takes control of the shows at times. Almost always, issues that are so crucial to the smaller provinces, like those in Balochistan, are never discussed and people from those provinces are ubiquitous because of their absence in these shows. We don’t hear their voiices, dont’t get to know their concerns and views. I have yet to see people that I am really interested to hear in these shows.
Hamid Mir, Dr. Shahid and others of your ilk, how about inviting Rasool Bakhsh Palejo, Atta Ullah Mengal, Mehmood Khan Achakzai, Sardar Marri, Dr. Abdul Hayee Baloch et.el., to your shows just for a change? After all, they are also Pakistanis, belong to a provincial unit of the country, and are well known political figures in their respective constituencies, even if they are unknown in Punjab and irrelevent to the Punjabi elites whose, often vulgar, voices get so much coverage on your channels. Your acts of ommission in this regard, nay, your pathological indifference, to the concerns of the smaller provinces and the voices of their political figures is just another sign of an ugly phenomenon that has an ignoble history in Punjab in particular and in Pakistan in general. Remember the tragedy of 1971 and the “internally colonized” Bengalis? Learn something from your history and, for once, do the just and right thing!
December 25th, 2007 at 7:37 am
they are lying, dictioary states clearly what secularism is : it means something which is not related with religion. now was pakistan not related with any religion?… why they are lying?…because if Quaid e Azam is proven as a muslim, and islamic person, Pakistan should become islamic as well…they are against islam, they are hiding in the stupid covers.
December 25th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Secularism / No secularism
Anyuse of this debate.
We should have tolerance in the society, rule of law and good social values.
First beocme good human being then think about other issues.
JINNAHwas without any doubt , best leader muslim world have in last 100 years.
@ Javed.
Problem with you is that , you cannot come out of your tunnnel vision. Grow up now. Try to give logics.
You have not read my comments completly.
I said unfortunately we dont have any leader having some qualities of JINNAH.
Thisinclude BB and NS as well. BB and NS ARE NOT SIANTS and are not beyond criticism . They have their faults.
December 25th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
I think Capacital Talk would have been more sexy, if hosted by a person other than Hamid Mir. The questions raised by Hamid are not wieghtful. For example in one episode of Capital Talk one of the Guests (perhaps farhat Babar of PPP) was discussing a serious issue and saying that in Pak every day the constitution is amended but Hamid mir at once interrupted him and asked what amendements are made yesterday, before yesterday; So I think this is childish question becuase “every day” is used as an expression to indicate the extreme or hight of some thing.
December 25th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
DEAR ADMIN plz upload TALAT sahab’s program youth dialogue thats a very lively program n i hope that all friends here will like it too.secondly we all should pray that our brave journulists TALAT HUSSAIN,KASHIF ABBASI , MUSHTAQ MINHAS & NUSRAT JAVED shud come back as soon as possible n thirdly guyz like HM & SM shud learn a lesson frm them n atleast shud do sum thought provoking programs rather than spreading cynicysm
MARYIAM
December 25th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
It may be an old program, but it is very relevant to the raging debate amongst commentators on this site. Pls see under “DISCUSS”, the ongoing debate as to whether Pakistan should be an “Islamic” state, governed by Sharia Law, or whether it should be a Secular State.
Additionally, the fact that the program is an old one has no bearing on whether it’s a useful discussion to have or not, these days. This is a topical issue which, like any classical discussion, always has, and always will, affect peoples’ lives on an everyday basis. Hence the relevance.
December 25th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
@ gul
Religion is a personal matter . We shold atleast become good human being.
Jinnah was the most secular person Remember his first speech to constiruent assembly.
December 26th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Definition of secularism:
allah & wahy have nothing to do with collective life, state, society,social sector or politics.