I hope like elections, every party will boycott this fake APC too until and unless mushi is brought to justice for his latest crime against humanity.

The SOB (Mush) still does not get it. It is “HE” that needs to be removed at all cost. WTF cares about APC now.

I think MMA (Fazlu) and PMLQ will still argue in not boycotting the election.

If elections get canceled, it will be a big blow for Q league as they have all the results set up for them to show them winners. Now Pervez Elahi will have nobody to blame on.

Mush always wanted to become a ‘father figure’ and lead politicians. This is another attempt.

To strengthen Pakistan, history of 1988 must be repeated when a ruler with cream of Pakistan military died.

Like 1988, a third party should become president (like Justice Wajih ud din) and hold election in 90 days. Only elected leaders can take Pakistan forward.

APC is definitely a front to save Musharraf’s sorry behind. Anyone who advocates a participation in it is an enemy of the state and an enemy of the people.

I urge the people of Pakistan to outdo the governments apparatus protecting Musharraf’s residence and drag the dog out by his feet and dispensed with street justice!

This is a desperate attempt to save his a$$.

PPP will declare war on Musharraf after their executive mtg tomorrow. They’ll boycott elections and rally people on a single point agenda, Go Musharraf Go.

tragic loss. it seems we as pakistani never lose a chance to make a spectacle of ourselves before the world. i for one would advice for patience and taking stock of the situation. it would rather be prudent for musharraf to remain for the time being and agree to a list of demands that can be set forth by the political parties. such as the reinstatement of the judiciary, dismantling of the ISI and a major overhaul of the foreign policy.

i am of the opinion that we wont be able to absorb any more chaos any longer. i think musharraf can announce a roadmap for change within the next few months, which can result in a new parliament fully functional and backed by the people. we must nt underestimate the US influence at the moment. The neo-cons will use this for thier political leverage and further malign the state of pakistan.

It is very tragic…. no words to explain. I was not very fond of her but I admired her courage and determination. May Allah rest her in peace and give strength to her family specially her children. Amen.
We used to say Komeni drinks the blood of human in breakfast but mush has crossed the limits. He is having this three times a day. Can’t he see that his desperate effort to cling to power is prooving fatal for the country. He should see that no matter what the security is if its your time to go then amoured bunker cannot save. He should learn from his predisessors. The last one was identified by his jaw (JABRA). BB died a brave death but could see the fear the terror in mush’s eyes. He has brought the cowardness in the ranks of our once brave army.

By the way APC will be another yes sir meeting coz besides Mush’e croonies every one wants Mush to go. The yes sir party Fazlu and cories of gujrat will fell on Mush’s feet begging for him to stay and save their a@@@s. Because they fully know that without Mush they have no future.

I think that the parties should go to APC.
Musharraf is at its weakest. By going to APC, parties will show that they are willing to talk for the sake of finding a way out of the present situation. However, NS/Ik/Qazi and others must use their strengthened position to demand removal of Musharraf, formation of a APC backed careftaker, restoration of judiciary and elections under new EC. It is likely that PPP will also now share these demands. Even the US might see this as the only course of action left open if further instability has to avoided.
I am not in favour of boycotting APC beacuse it will only perpetuate the deadlock.

Ibnbatuta

No APC, just one demand by all parities, step down musharaf and should form a national government for minimum 3 years. New president is necessary. that is the only solution of this tragic happening.

APC only makes sense when the political parties are willing to fight for the people they want to represent but instead it will be who can gain more support from the government.

Now why would Pakistan “Government” object to the UN resolution condemning the assassination of BB in “strongest possible terms”? What possible reason could there be to take an issue with the words “strongest possible terms”.

Is this protest alone not acceptance of guilt on Mush’s part?

If the politicians are confident that they can force Mush to step down by participation in the APC, they should do that. A president should be selected through consensus of the main political parties. I don’t think Justice Wajih could be accepted.
If they don’t see Mush would agree in this manner, they should boycot the APC during Mush presidency and prepare for long march towards presidency or army house until he hands himself over to the people for most deserving treatment.

No party should accept to participate in APC. This caretaker goverment is not neutral at all - so they can never be honest brokers.

An advice for Q members - although it is late now - dump Q league if they want to save themselves - not their ffuture as that is definitely gone now.

Arrest Pervez Elahi and his ghunda brother Wajahat Hussain and demented Shujjat Hussain

Do you see guys there is a pattern

WHOEVER NEGOGIATES WITH MUSHARRAF DIES

Be it BB, Bugti, Rashid Ghazi and so many others.

The salavation of every political leader is in that THEY SHOULD NOT NEGOGIATE WITH MUSHARRAf.

I must say Kiyani has no morals or any iota of conscience - otherwise by now he should have forced mUSHARRAF to leave and set up a caretaker goverenment.

NO APC - only one demand - Musharraf step down and he be tried under crimes against humanity.

Now what would he say - would he still blame CJ Iftikhar for derailing the democracy and would he still blame him for releasing terrorists who have come back and killed BB. Shame on Musharraf. You have no place for even a grave in this country.

I think, APC should be given a chance. The demands regarding Mush’s removal, installing of a more acceptable caretaker government, repeal of emergency related amenments, restoration of judiciary and the craetion of a neutral EC should be inflexible. Elections should only be accepted under these terms. Timeline will essential. No later then 90 days. If APC fails to agree on these and force Mush to accept them, then the way of street protests should be adopted. It will have much more legitimacy and respect in the eyes of the world. Statesmanship and not activism is needed right now. Only if negotiations fail, must we go to the streets.

Ibn Batuta…

Ibn batuta

which world are you living in. This APC shosha has been created to defuse the situation. There is only one way to get this guy out - through agitation.

Latoon kay bhoot batoon say nahi mantay - this guy has to go - even his grave would not be tolerated in Pakistan.

Second demand

Relocate grave of Zia from Faisal Masjid to Army graveyard where all dumbheads army men are buried.

We should get these guys out of public once for all.

@ chussain,

I would have fully agreed with you if you had made these points yesterday.
But BB’s death has change many variables. Mush is at its weakest. APC provides a non-violent platform to press for his stepping down. Going to street is always an option but it is a bloody option. Participating in APC will demonstrate that parties do not want blood to be shed unless it is unavoaidable. However, as I have written earlier, no flexibility on demands - the same demands taht you have articulated. If APC is unable to agree or Mush refuses to accept APC’s demands, then the way forward will be the street protest. That will give such protest far more legitimacy in the eyes of the world as well.

Ibnbatuta

Musharraf is a dishonest ruthless guy who has no morals at all - he should not be trusted at all and this APC is nothing but a smoke screen.

Look BB also negogiated with Musharraf - and what happened - in the end she was killed.

This proves this guy cannot be trusted at all.

@ c hussian,

agitation at thsi point will not be guided by one point agenda but will be an outpouring of uncontrolled emotions. different factions will fight with each other rather than against the army. Such a chaos will only make Pakistan even more ungovernable in the eyes of the world and military will be seen as even more necessary. US will support martial law and may even walk in herself to support the army.
the mediating stage of APC can help break thsi cycle of frenzy. It will also help identify leadership capable of dealing with the situation. In the presence of a united APC against Mush, US too will find it hard to continue to back him.
But, if APC fails - and it is more likely to fail than succeed - the way forward will be what you are suggesting. But by taht time, I hope, it will be posisble to give some direction to loose emotions and guide the agitation to one agenda.

Ibnbatuta

NO APC - this is to defuse the situation - remember whoever negogiated with Musharraf has been ruthelessly killed. This is history and is a fact.

BB also negogiated with Musharraf and gave him a safe passage but what did he do instead - he destroyed judiciary, brought changes to constitution , and now got BB killed.

There is only one demand - this guy has to go - AFter that yes APC can be held by Acting President with Kiyani as a guarantor if he has some moral sense.

Remember when CJ was restored at that time Musharraf was also at his weakest and then he lured BB in this and got off the hook and stabbed her in the back. This guy has no morals and the only way he can thrown out is by agitation - other wise once things are calmed he would never honour his word. He is a liar and nothing but a liar. He uses people and then stabs them.

He should not be given a chance at all - the first precondition of attending APC should be that he should step down. If he doesnt then agigation until he steps down.

USA, and Canada has called that elections should not be postponed - these guys have no idea what has happened. They are still focussed on war on terror and FBI has said that Al Qaeda has accepted the responsilibity. I want to ask from FBI - do they have special link with Al Qaeda who had time to call them and saiy guys we have killed BB

Let it be know to all those western people who think they are the most clever and intelligent guys around - No Elections until judiciary is restored and Musharraf is gone. Thats all. Nothing short of that is acceptable.

Initial medical inquiry suggests it was piece of bomb, not the bullet, which penetrated into the neck of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto. She died before reaching the hospital. Artificial breathing machines were used to rehabilitate the heart beat, but in vain.
Doctor Musaddiq Hussain, General Hospital
Source: Geo News

@ C hussain

“I want to ask from FBI - do they have special link with Al Qaeda who had time to call them and saiy guys we have killed BB”.

Well, YES brother.

All CIA, FBI, MI5 and MI6 as well as govt of Pak have “special link” with Al Qaeda.
But this is a special Al Qaeda. Not of poor OBL’s al Qaeda.
This is in the form of a small cell, located in a 4′ by 4′ room.
Whenever these agencies or their bosses are in trouble, they just ask al Qaeda (the 4′ by 4′ al qaeda) to issue a statment.
The statment is issued and the blame as well as frustration of “becaharee awam” is shifted from real issue.

@ C hussain
“I want to ask from FBI - do they have special link with Al Qaeda who had time to call them and saiy guys we have killed BB

nota:
the story is now being largely accepted by main international medias including CNN and BBC. it seems that it will favor their govts. as this is the advantage army is taking again and again.

i can accept this version if correlated with the ISI, as one of the rouge faces of the army and there is subtle difference b/w the two

An interesting analysis:
Andy Martin analyzes the murder of Benazir Bhutto, and blames Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf for her killing.

…”So why do I believe Musharraf killed Bhutto? First, the killing looks suspicious. The way the attack unfolded, with firearms first and explosions second, leads me to believe the detonations were designed to cover up the killing and indeed to create chaos as a cover for escape of the perpetrators. The bomb explosions were incidental to the murder of Bhutto. Assassins planning to use a bomb do not shoot first and bomb second.

Second, I see the security situation around Bhutto as incredibly lax and ineffective. When Bhutto landed in Pakistan several weeks ago, another bombing attack led to massive death. She had virtually no protection moments before yesterday’s attack. Either she was incredibly foolhardy, or she had been poorly advised to unnecessarily expose herself.

One of the failings of military dictatorships is that the military ceases to be the servant of the state, and becomes its oppressor. And having arrogated power to itself, Pakistan’s military is not anxious to see a restoration of civilian control. And so, the easiest way to derail a return to civil society was to kill the emissary of future democracy. Benazir Bhutto.

Sadly, her death will likely create even more unstable conditions. American foreign policy stands on the brink. We have banked on Musharraf, but his bank is bankrupt. His military has swallowed our billions with very little to show, and he lacks any future. He has lost the people. The tribal areas have become a Taliban suburb. His regime is likely to become increasingly despotic, as he tries to blame “Islamic fundamentalists” for Bhutto’s death.

Musharraf probably believed his rule would be cemented in place by the death of Bhutto. I believe he was very wrong. And I think it would be wrong to blame the fundamentalists for Bhutto’s death. Potentially, they stood to gain if Bhutto became a growing threat to Musharraf. I would not rule out a fundamentalist plot, but right now I believe Musharraf is the guilty party.”….

Another guy with the name of Mustafa Al yazid has said Al Qaeda did this and that Laskhar Jhangvi punjab wing was involved

I dont believe a word of it - see how cleverly they have involved teh religious factors and also special emphasis is on PUNJAB WING of Laskhar Jhangvi

I have no doubt that three Pervez are involved

who are

Pervez Musharraf
Pervez Kiyani (because he commands ISI )
Pervez Elahi (whose name was clearly mentioned along with Ejaz Shah)

of the people involved in this conspiracy.

Another news is that PM Somoro has said the elections are going to go ahead in anyway.

They are determined to rig the elections and now they want to exploit this

This is the time of no compromise but of agitation (without destroying public and private property) to get the goverment and the army to once for all get out of Pakistan politics.

NS should announce his own APC in which they should decide to protest until musharraf is gone and then hold elections.

Soomro is just regurgitating his masters’ voices. US, UK, Canada are all calling for elections to be held Jan 08 saying stuff like:
“Musharraf must not scrap the election entirely and reimpose martial law. The resulting political vacuum and inevitable violence would empower the terrorists yet further,”

“”The full restoration of democracy sooner rather than later has to be Ms Bhutto’s final legacy,” the paper said in its editorial.

“Ms Bhutto’s murder was designed to destroy Pakistan’s right to choose. To honour her memory Pakistan must show that democracy will always triumph over murderous extremism.”

US President George W. Bush urged Pakistanis “to honor Benazir Bhutto’s memory by continuing with the democratic process for which she so bravely gave her life.”

“All Pakistan’s leaders need to regroup around a national accord, to defeat extremism by restoring the legitimacy of its rulers and the credibility of its institutions.”

Ah, so now the Jan 08 election must be held as part of the War on Terror….

c hussain.
Brother, If you think that agitation is the only way to get rid of Musharraf than we need this agitation in front of his house not all over the country because burning the unarmed civilian people will not help getting rid of Musharraf. I think its easy to favor agitation when you and your property is safe and sound, miles away from Pakistan.

shrewed army generals have simple game plan.:rule at any cost. if situation gets worst step back for a while, this time may be by sacrificing Mush. people will again be fooled by rouge army. so whats the solution?

1- independent judiciary
2- fully fairly elected government
3- no role of army than protecting borders
4- privatization or nationalization of all army businesses

only this can prevent the economical catastrophe and disintegration.

The question remains HOW?

NEOCONS AND THE WEST TOO QUICK TO BLAME ‘AL QAEDA’ AND ‘TERRORISTS’ FOR BHUTTO ASSASSINATION
“…For the US and her allies, particularly Israel, it is essential that Musharraf retains power. Both the US and Israel are very sensitive to the fact that Pakistan does have nuclear arms and that it is a predominately Muslim nation and that there is a large element of Islamic fundamentalists within the nations political ranks who it would be reasonable to assume have a very strong chance of gaining or seizing power in Pakistan and who would have the Taliban of Afghanistan and north-west Pakistan as an ally rather than as an enemy as they are now of Musharraf. Power passing to Benazir Bhutto via an election would have been much easier to seize by Islamic fundamentalists than from Musharraf if that is their intention – another reason why it would not be in their interests to assassinate her….

So why international stock sinks with this news?

If there is no election then who is the main beneficiary?
why BB chosen to sabotaged elections? why not some one else
If BB had deal then why Mush/Army betrayed her
If Mush/Army can play game with the US, then keeping in view Zia, what will be the future US move
Can war on terror be any effective in current scenario?
If not then why the US still favors Mush
Is it the US plan to further destabilize Pakistan to take over nuke and catalyze the disintegration plan
how civil society will come over if the unrest stretches like afghanistan/iraq.

GO Kiyani Go
Go Mushrraf Go
Go Napaak army go
We just need an independent judiciary in Pakistan. Nothing less than that.
How will they get the burning Sindh under control?

APC is no solution. The only solution:
Army throw Musharraf out.
Restore the judiciary.
Fair and free elections under the judiciary as meted ouut by the poor constitution of Pakistan which thsi mad man has truly destroyed.

This country has truly become paijistan. ( the three parvez: kiyaini, musharraf, Ilahi).

I remember studying with Sindhi nationalists. These people would tell every foreigner that they came from Sindhu Desh. I tried to have debates with them and some of their grievances were very valid.

One of them, Fiaz Khuro, once told me that Bhutto family is a great traitor to Sindh. I asked him why, he said: ‘I don’t know why they want to die in Punjab when they can become Kings and Queens of Sindh’. He said that their loyalty to Pakistan is strange.

Being a NS supporter at that time (and now IK), I can realise that how important BB was for the integrity of Pakistan.

Teeth Maestro has some interesting stories:

PPP contemplating on Contesting the Elections

Condoleezza Rice calls Zardari to request for Elections on 8th !!!

Shoot to Kill Orders issued in Sindh

Nawaz Sharif pulls out of the Elections, while PML-Q, MQM & JUI - Silent

USA AND WEST WANTS TO PROTECT MUSHARRAF THATS WHY THEY ARE LAYING BLAME ON ALQAEDA.

There is no doubt that Musharraf is involved in this crime 100%. Peoples Party has rejected that Al Qaeda is involved in this crime - they clearly blame it on Musharraf.

Asif Zardari has clearly said they had been lured in teh deal and cheated by - remannts of Zia.

Musharraf has go to and if Kiyani does not act and force Musharraf to go then there would be someone from teh army itself who would make sure these guys go.

@c hussain
I hope your saying that “someone in the army itself would make sure that these guys go”. is true.
Lets hope that there are people in the army who love Pakistan and care for the country. BUT I really doubt it.

Musharraf says that his training is based on being Aggressive. He is taught ‘Kill someone before they kill you’

http://www.khabrain.com/htmls/pg24.htm

Its a proof that he was behind BB’s murder. that is a difference between a general and a politician.

I know the thread is about APC. But

Why no autopsy was performed, as now soon govt will be pushing the official statement that she died in blast because of sharpnel. Pakistani public have every right know the cause of death. Only autopsy should have given the answer.

CNN Reporting on main page

“Benazir Bhutto was killed by shrapnel from a suicide bombing, the Pakistani government said today. The bomber also shot at her with a pistol, but SHE HAD NO BULLET injury, the Pakistani Interior Ministry said.”

Now see no autopsy, but thats what we will get.

I second econfused. I have been thinking the same since last evening. Even if the govt. didn’t do that, then PPP or Mr. Zardari could have done for it from some private hospitals.

APC means: Altaf, Parvez, and Chaudhries.
He already has the APC, so why is he calling for a new APC.
Maybe he wants to thanks Kiyani by making it A2PC: Altaf, Parvez
(Mush), Parvez (Kiyani), and Chaudhries. Thsi might be to thank KIyani for not throwing him out so far.

PPP will boycott Elections on 8 January 2008 … YES / NO

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Bhutto said Musharraf failed to protect her: email WASHINGTON, Dec 28 (AFP):

Slain PPP leader Benazir Bhutto blamed President Pervez Musharraf for failing to protect her in the volatile months preceding her assassination, an email released by US media Thursday showed. If harmed in Pakistan, “I wld (would) hold Musharaf (sic) responsible,

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We know you decide the articles or polls. We need a head line, Why Postmartem was not done. Why Party leadership or Asif Zardari did not request.

@Admin
How about expanding the poll a bit:
1) Yes and I agree
2) Yes but I wish they did not
3) No and I agree
2) No but I wish they did

Video: General Musharraf’s 1999 coup - Inside story

Humorous but true reflection of the culture of pak army and paki politians.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4110459846514091561&q=military+coup+1999&total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Why did Zardari agree to the government fixed timings for jenaaza. Why did he himself did not decide how the body shoudl be transported to Sindh, and why did he not choose when the tadfeen shoudl be done?
A lot of questions about the way PPP is agreeing to Musharraf.
If they decide to contest in elections, a big question mark will be there forever.
How can they even think of contesting when their leader has been murdered ~10 days prior to elections, and all the fingers are pointing towards the current regime.

Hi Masi Barkate

I hope that your spouse or children are assasinated and then we shall see how much is left in you to make decisions of tadfeen.

That family lost everything for pakistan and it is people like you and musharaf that will find a fault and dwell on it.
……………………….

PPP elections poll updated.

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Iqbal Cheema Intereior Ministry spokesman is claiming that they have intercepted teh conversation and has said that Betullah Mehsud is behind the assassination.

He wants to achieve two targets.

One to divert teh attention of people from the goverment and lay teh blame at Al Qaeda and secondly to make a new cause with Americans to attack tribal areas.

This is the most ridiculous theory I have ever heard. -
When did the intelligence of Pakistan became so expert who could not even prevent attack on military installations.

There is no doubt that Pervez Musharraf, Pervez Kiyani via ISI and Pervez Elahi are behind the assassination. Now they are cooking up a new theory of Betullah Mehsood.

Shame on these goverment liars.

@faisal

I know you are really angry, but we cannot wish no such thing for anybody. We all know Zardari must be in shock. Party leadership was in shock, and I am sure they will come out of it. Maasi Barkate will her answers. I guess some how she/he is thinking that leader ship are not human beings and made of steel

@c Hussain

I agree with your theory. They started with the theory taht it was a suicide blast that killed her. Then Talat Hussain on aaj TV gave the facts that According to the people sitting in the car, the car had started rolling when the explosion/blast occurred.
Now the doctor of RGH si saying taht she died of injury close to her ear. Who will believe this?

Now the government has come up withthese theories about the killer , the same way that they came up with the bodies of foreigners in laal masjid which later turned out to be pakistanis.
Pakistan Intrerior ministry is just a pack of lies who has lost its credibility in Pakistan completely.

@faisal and enconfused.,

I did not mean to hurt anyones’ feelings.,
But the tadfeen shoudl not have been done so hurriedly.
They trated Bugti the same way. But his family had no say in it.
His grave is till date guarded by the army.

@c hussain
It was also Iqbal Cheema who claimed BB’s heart failed hearing the sound of the explosion…

@econfused
First it was the sound, now it is shrapnel from a suicide bombing. That’s how a cover-up works….

To add on: leadership are human beings but they have to be stronger because they have to think of the whole nation.

Well, now Cheema has done one better: Claims when BB ducked at the sound of the explosion, she hit her head on one of the latches of the sunroof which fractured her skull and probably caused her death…

So it will remain a mystry for ever.

well doen cheema. Why don’t you start writing stories.

the criminal govt is behind this fascist game in order to survive for another 5 years or so. that way their external daddy can remain fulfill their lust of power and wealth. i would say there is no benefit one can extract from the fatal Apc. this is another game plan for the fatal present govt. and the mafia regime. instead, all the opposition should gather on the APDM platform to boycott this fraud election.
restore judiciary, throw fauji out to barracks.

I believe this is very good and positive step. This is the only way out of crisis. There should be a consensus government based on all parties.
All parties should work with little harmony and counter all the forces who are trying trump up the punjabi sindhi, blochi or pathan rag.
We need to look forward not back and plunge into further chaos

Cheema has claimed that Asif Zirdari stopped them from going ahead with post-moertem of BB.

This claim is lurdicious becuase BB has been murdered and any victim of murder has to undergo post-mortem and relatives cannot refuse that - So Cheema is again misleading.

Plus BB had open heart massage to revive her - according to the doctors - which means that her chest was opened and her heart was manually massaged but she had probably died before arriving the hospital.

If the postmortem was not done according to Cheema how did anyone know that the bullet pierced her skull or sharpnel. What about bullets in other parts of the body. Were they located.

I fully believe that this Professor of Surgery is also behaving like lota cheif justice Dogar.

Jis mulk ka awaye ka awa hi bigra hua ho us ka kaun kia keh sakta hai.

There has been major cover up and I fully believe that IB, ISI and Musharraf were behind this killing.

@c hussain

I doubt they ever asked Zardar.. Last time we heard Zardari on GEO , and he was in shock and he said he wil has to see her before believing she passed away. He was not in his right state of mind. Similarly Amin Faheem was in shock. I doubt govt ever asked Zardari. Now they will try to make a deal with Zardari, or who ever gets part leadership.

maasi

can I just say something

Well they couldnt keep the body like that for hours - she was a woman and if they had decided not to carry out postmortem then under Islamic traditions a woman should be buried as soon as possible and especially before the maghrib.

So please please do not blame Zirdari and family for that - they are already under lot of pressure and its better to keep the family out of this controversy.

econfused
“I doubt govt ever asked Zardari. Now they will try to make a deal with Zardari, or who ever gets part leadership.”

this is your theory again and after few minutes some nutshell will start believeing it. If you was not with zardari and you do not know it for sure why are you making assumptions.
I have seen many times in Pakistan, where at the request of family the post mortem is not conducted. (This is not my assumption) This is fact and you can confirm with anyone.

what a mafia oriented press conference fauji cheema just did. nothing could hide the incident fauji has played.

APC should be held but under Opposition Parties i.e. PPP, PML-N, ANP,PTI, JI etc.

MUSH has no credibility for this activity. He can surely help by RESIGNING and I am sure people will be relieved.

I like yaqub2005 idea, that the APC should be held only by political parties excluding the mush. Mush should resign and handover the office to whoever becomes president with consensus in APC
I will not exclude any party from APC, not even the party which has no vote and not even a single seat, as long as they are registered their view point should be included

The claim of Cheema that BB died because her head struck on sunroof of the car in which she was travelling - is the most ridiculous explanation. How did they prove that it caused the death.

The issue is that whether they opened the skull or not to find the bullet or sharpnel or not and if they didnt - did they do any CT scan or MRI scan of head to find and locate any sharpnel or bullet.

If they havent done either of them then it is very clear that they are just presuming or assuming the cause of death.

I believe that there has been a very major cover up in this - and goverment is involved in this.

How can Prof of Surgery determine the cause of death - because it is done by the pathologist or a Forensic Surgeon after proper postmortem. As no postmortem was done therefore Cheema cannot claim at all what he is claiming.

I believe that this should be investigated by a foreign pathologist and only then we can determine the cause of death.

There is no doubt that goverment is involved in this killing.

The thing is that if they can intercept the conversation between Baitullah Mehsood and the person to whom he was talking to - I am sure they can trace the source of call and also where he is located and can locate him - so why not they trace him and kill him if after all they have got the evidence.

musharraf is trying to make a fool out of us - nothing more.

Pakistani govt is announcing that they have now strong evidence to prove Al-Qaida is behind this killing.

I am sure very soon police will present to the media a person claiming to be Beth-ullah Mehsood and will say “I am the one who ordered the killing”
Just like an elephant who will say ” I am a dear” ” I am a dear”

It is disgusting to watch these killers on tv to come and try to make fool of people. These napak fauj is on a killing spree all over Pakistan, these blood thristy hounds are on the rampage.

Geo Vs Aaj TV:

Is it just me or somebody else is feeling that Aaj TV coverage is better than Geo. Geo seems to be like PTV? I am watching Aaj on jumptv and there was a program with Talat in it.

Fauji kuttay have played a clever but failed gamble. By eliminating BB they thought they could strengthen their hold to power and by giving her assassination a colour of Al-Qaeda they could scare the West into further support for them. This aspect of the plan is quite obvious as western media speaks of al-qaeda venturing into target killings. Eversince 9/11 fauji kuttay have used and abused the terrorism card to their advantage, and their attempt to eliminate BB from the scene and using it to their advantage will fail miserably, insha’Allah.

If those of us, sick and tired of fauji kuttay, can forge a united front against them, we can send the troops back to the barracks and the Generalissmos to the gallows.

Ayaz Amir once wrote in his column

” Even if we throw this half million army into the Arabian sea. Nothing would happen to the security of Pakistan”.

That’s very true peterpan, the self proclaimed guardian of the country’s integrity has done nothing but damage that very integrity.

@shaan11235
“I have seen many times in Pakistan, where at the request of family the post mortem is not conducted. (This is not my assumption) This is fact and you can confirm with anyone.”

you have seen many times in pakistan that an ordinary person killed wouldn’t have postmortem performed on family’s request, but what about the person whose murder has put country into chaos and up to now more than 100 people are dead. even if the family insisted, there should had been a postmortem done because its not only the family who is affected but the whole country for generations to come.

I have been watching both the channels. Aaj TV coverage was definitely much better. Geo was not as bad as PTV, but there were no analysts or talk shows on geo.

BB was buried in sucha haste to avoid post mortme. That is why Cheem was lying between his teeth today knowing tahts he had been nuried. Why did he not do this press conference yesterday. And why si the DR. from RGH saying it was an injury behind the ear that was the cause of her daeth today. Why did he not say that yesterday when she was not buried.
Evetrything si a link.
The family truly woudl be under a lot of pressure. But post mortem shoudl have been conducted.