Well… AA and few others who were not at good terms with BB seems to be trying to score points I am afraid with their ‘wet’ voices.. while talking to media. Grief and Utter grief is there and should be there but real approach and serious thought is missing which is sad and shows hollowness of leadership. I heard Raza Rabbani saying that “all these riots were “Lazim” means compulsary after this … ” rather than showing some maturity and asking PPP wokers to calm down ( I agree no one will listen to them at this point but at least he /they should show geniune maturity and patriotic sensitivity )…Not sensible to say at this time but cant stop saying that we are so miserable that our leaders are dangerous for country once alive and more dangerous if dead …

NJ was spot on.

great clip, thanks

A pathan friend of mine called me and pointed out to this fraud and lies by the government.

Listen to the second video @ 23: 00 on the link below.

Govt Spokesperson says that it is a translation of Pushto into Urdu. He says that there was a mistake of gender. A pathan can make a mistake in Urdu about male/female but how can he make a mistake in his own language??? That is why no audio was available. Liar Government must be arranging actors for voices. Probably he forgot that it was a ‘translation’ because a liar has a weak memory.

http://pkpolitics.com/2007/12/28/government-press-conference/

@optimist…
I agree with you and another reasoning can be…
Maybe Mehsood and his people are talking about there some other (male) enemy. Afterall, they are at WAR. I heard the entire urdu translation and I don’t think they are actually using the name of “Benazir”. or that the victim was “Female”. First of all, govt can fabricate the entire story. and secondly, even if the release the actual audio conversation, it doesn’t necessarily imply that they are actually talking about this incident.

Another thing is…Taliban and other people are “IDIOTICALY” rigid. Its more important for them to stick to their vaules (not killing a lady) than to gain any political benefit. They would never go against a lady even if Benazir bacame 10 times more strict against them.

Sorry admin for off-topic post…

Maybe we should have defense agreement with China or US and get rid of army

After all there are more than 24 countries without army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces

We all are saddened and grieved by the suden denise of BB. AA is similarly affected and is in mourning. I would like to offer my condolence to him. I, however, respectfully disagree with AA over the statement he had made.
His statement: ” AAj agar main bhee sindhi hota to to Aag laganain main shaamal hota”.

We should not condone the unlawful actions of rioters who are currently involved in looting, and destroying govt and private properties. These looters, possible PPPworkers must be stopped immediately. I urge leadersof PPP to advise their workers and others to stop this carnige. I also ask governmental official to protect people’s live and the property. We all need to control our emotions and refrain fro illegal actions.

I APPEAL TO ALL FELLOW PAKISTANIS TO PLEASE UNITE TO SAVE PAKISTAN.AT THIS CRITICAL JUNCTURE, WE HAVE NO OPTION BUT JOIN OUR HANDS TO SAVE AND PROTECT PAKISTAN

I appeal to all to remain calm and refrain from sensless killing and other unlawful actions. Leaders of PPP have the responsibility to ask their workers to stop killing, looting and destroying properties. Let us not provide another opportunity for the third marshal law.

This tragedy is like all tragedies - is a defining moment. This is true for the PPP and the country. Let us look at PPP.

1.Who is chosen to lead PPP will say more about the future of this political organisation than anything else . If a family member is chosen- then future will be bleak in the long term ,If they chose a leader in a democratic fashion( election)

2. The difficult question must be answered and that is why did PPP -( or BB) tried to cooperate with Musharraf regime. Specifically why did she NOT insist on restoration of the Judges. If she had done that- she might have changed history.

3. As to what policy is followed- one can only wish and hope but my fear is that we are NOW dealing with Lilliputian midgets in charge of the country on all levels.

How to recognise MQM MUNAFIQs (not talking about sincere supporters)

1. They play patriotism card (in other words save Mush)

2. They play US conspiracy theory (Mush is biggest chamcha of the US)

3. They tell us about feudals and forget about Murderes

4. They pretend to be supporters of another party and after that they start their ususal rubbish which points to their support of Mush/MQM

I think these so called leaders of PPP calling it a party of all four provinces are exposed.
It also tells that they are hostage to a bunch of “corrupt crimnal narrow minded coward ppl” from one particular province whom very existance depend on the the phlosophy they showed when nawaz sharif went there with other ppl from APDM(”I dont like Nawaz Sharif, a hypocrat himself”).

They dont have the courage to confront the real culprits the Taliban etc behind the killing of Benazir but they would blame Punjab and only Punjab.

And now I see head of these bunch of corrupt ppl, Mr. 10%, ruling this party, what a pity.

PPP consists most of corrupt politicians, including the late Benazir Bhutto, one of the most courageous women and one of the most corrupt politicians.

Islam teaches me to remember the one who has passed away in good or reasonable manner, otherwise i was never in favour of Benazir Bhutto and her policies. Now she is dead, I intend not to fabricate my opinion but I must say she was a corrupt politician and to me corrupt people have no respect, they are looters like dacoits.

I never liked these politicians i.e Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto because they have never been fully loyal to Pakistan, being a pakistan my conscience does not allow me to overestimate their loyalty. I therefore think that civil society should play a great role in today’s crisis and save their interests, these politicians have never gave us anything. Today Bhutto has died, tomorrow it could be Nawaz Sharif, their not gods, they are ordinary people among us, if you think they are extraordinary then someone among us could be extraordinary too, come up with your courage and rise with your passion to save yourself, save Pakistan. For Allah’s sake save Pakistan we are going through a wrost time.

@The Hope
I want to call you such bad names …. but don’t know your mentality can only guess. I give you these stars just change them according to your filth in you mind.
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Aitzaz Ahsan is absolutely right on . If punjabis want to save the country they can save otherwise this country can not survive. CIA report in 2005 already predicted that Pakistan will come apart in the next decade.

@The Hope
Doesn’t your Islam tells you not to put tuhmat on others without proof.
Doesn’t civilzed norms and sense of justice compel you to prove your allegations and don’t you believe that anybody and everybody is INNOCENT until proved otherwise.
Shame on you.

i agree with pejamistri and commoner

Speaking of Pakistan coming apart, look at this so-called friend of BB writing in the Washington Post. Here is some background about him.

@ optimist

Bro it’s very unfair to say that I am taking much space and that this site is not for religious discussion. You are free to take as much space as u can but try not to fill the space with such irrational comments. As for as religious discussion is concern, we are all Muslims and our criteria to judge things must be Islam. When I judge these rulers by the criteria defined by Islam, I get to the conclusion that these are not our rulers rather enemies of Muslims. I am still stick to my point and that is the rulers of the Muslim world are partner in crimes with USA, there hands are full with the blood of innocent Muslims, there for we should not shed tears for them, If you still wants to cry, cry I am not stopping you from this but I hold this opinion and you carry on with yours.

Your comments about HT show your ignorance about this party. Try to re-verify your views and information.

As for as our views regarding Osama and zawahri, we believe that the method they have adopted is not from Islam, It is not allowed to kill innocent human being. More over no body know where Osama is? I don’t believe in media’s propaganda and linking Osama with Islam and khilafah in order to malign Islam and create islamo-phobia in the world.

The west know that the issue is much more bigger then Osama, the problem which they are facing in Ideological challenge from Islam and those people who are struggling for this radical ideological change in the world and challenging capitalism, therefore you could see they are desperate and crazy and saying khilafah and shairia law in the Muslim world in none negotiable. In almost every speech Bush, Blair, john Howard, Godden Brown coats Islam and khilafah being a violent and evil idea and they will not let it happen. But they will not be successful in there planes and victory will belongs to Muslims by the well of Allah (swt).

HT is a known organization in the world for its non-violent methodology and is active in more then 40 Muslims countries. We believe in the method of Prophet (saw) which is changing society through political and intellectual means.

In order to clear your self about the myth of democracy and free speech please refer to my previous posts.

Regards

Asalamo Alikum,

The problems of Pakistan are growing day by day in all sectors of life. I believe the reason behind all these problems are the ruling class of Pakistan and the system of secular democracy which has brought Pakistan on this brink of disaster. The option left with us is neither democracy nor dictatorship; rather the only viable solution is Islam and the system of khilafah.
We have tried all types of systems in Pakistan and these systems were doomed to fail because it does not represent believe of the people and the ruler never reflect the feeling and emotions of the people and the masses. The system of democracy has not just failed in Pakistan rather in the whole world. Capitalism is unable to look after the affairs of people in the world.

Indeed the world is in dire need of Ideological change and the vacuum created by capitalism could only be filled with the ideology of Islam. So we should not refer to the system which is the root cause of all our problems which always bring elites in the ruling not only in Pakistan but in those countries which are considered as models of democracy like India, USA and Britain. Only a handful people are enjoying a luxuries life at the expense of millions and billions of people.

In Pakistan in the last 60 years we have seen only those people could come into power who are land lords, industrialists and business men. They spent millions of rupees to secure seat in the parliament because they know that after becoming a parliamentarian they would play the role of God. What ever they say would become a law for others, they can make right wrong and a wrong right.

Khilafah state will implement Islam in all sectors of life and will re-unify the Ummah and will use abounded of recourses for the welfare of this ummah and will protect the Blood, dignity, wealth, resources, unity and above all aqeedah of this Ummah. Khilafah will not only take the Muslim ummah out from this severe intellectual and political decay rather it will also take the whole of humanity out from the severe darkness of capitalism to the light of Islam.

It is not the only solution left with us rather it is obligatory to work for the re-establishment of khilafah state.

Regards

Dear Brother Asalam-o-alikum,

I am very very pleased that you like what I wrote on pk politics.

Brother as for as using secular democracy to bring khilafah it’s wrong and invalid method in Islam. As we believe that Islam is a complete code of life so there has to be a method for implementing Islam. Islam is basically a fikra means theory and Tareeka means method. So the method must be from the fikra and not from our own selves. Our aim and method of achieving that aim must be from Islam, and secular democracy does not fit in Islam rather contradicting Islam because of the principles it stands. Those people who say that in fact they are taking part in the system in order to bring Islam; they are naive and deceiving them selves and others. From reality we can see that in the history we have not seen any big change took place where people first participated in the system and then changed that system to another. Communist, capitalist or secular and Islamic revolutions came through a process in which people who were struggling for these systems remained out of the existing system and tried to change it with there own.

As per you second question bro, khalifa is elected for life time in Islam on the condition that he will implement Islam and people will obey him, The method of removing a caliph when he start implementing open kufr is obligatory upon us to remove. This is what Islam teaches us. This is the thing which will work as a deterrent and the khalifa will always live with in the boundaries of Islam and he will never dare to implement anything other then Islam.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Regards
On 12/29/07, doc wrote:
Brother salam
I am a very simple Muslim. I found your article and subsequent comments on pkpolitics very informative.

After reading your article I arrived at an conclusion that I want to confirm. The conclusion/inference is “it is possible that while struggling to establish khilafat we might come across a person/party that will qualify to be khalifa. It can happen in the countries where secular democracy is practiced. In other words, we Muslims can use the secular democracy as a strategy to elect khalifa and bring khalifat”. Is it correct. As I trust your opinion you do not need to quote any authority or a source and thus keep your opinion short.

Second, if the elected khalifa deviates [open kufr] then instead of using a sword we can use ballot to remove him and replace him by another suitable person” Is it correct or do we have to use sword? Again please do not quote source. If I need I will ask you later.

Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge.
Regards
Dr. Mian

Sorry but you have not understood properly. Khilafah is brought through political and intellectual struggle and not as a result of a holy war, in fact the term holy war does not exist in Islam. Caliph is not replaced through the process of holy war. We can replace caliph through filing case against him in a court of Qazi Mazalim and can create pressure upon him through mobilizing masses to leave the post, but in case he implements open kufr then we are obliged to stand against him and remove him by force.

As for as the question that can we conceder the era after the four khaleefa as khilafat? The answer is yes. The thing which people often mix and get confuse because of it is that people mix person with state. There were good and bed khulufa in the history but it does not mean that if the caliph is corrupt or oppress people, the whole khilafah state will cease to exist. Through out the history Islam was implemented in all sectors of state weather Ruling, Economics, Education, social, foreign policy and judiciary,
More over in the history we see that there was struggle to get the post and they sometime killed each other but the question never was that weather khilafah should exist as a system or not.

Regards

Asalamo Alikum to all Brother and sisters,

1-I would urge you to read ‘Reluctant Fundamentalist’ to see what your organization is doing to ordinary people�?

You have again adopted a very unfair and childish approach to discuss issues. I don’t want to know through this book what our org is doing because I know and I am active in calling for Islam and khilafah. So I need not to know what the author believe.

2- As far masses don’t support BB & NS, I can only say that there is no point arguing with you. Go fight an election against NS and I will see who votes your Tehrir party. For us, that is a test of popularity?

Bro recently in Indonesia we had an international conference arranged in the 2nd largest football ground and over 10, 00, 00 people attended that conference. We had seminars and conference in almost all corners of the world where huge number of people attended the conferences and seminars despite of the fact that we are banned in almost all the Muslims countries. In Pakistan we are banned just after working 3 years. So you can imagine the intellectual strength of HT and the fear of the rulers. Try to read the reports of American think tanks and see what they say about HT and khilafah. They can not fight the war of ideas rather they resort to banning our voice and killing our members and putting them behind the bars just because we believe in Islam and want to bring back khilafah and uproot DEMON-CRAZY.

The reason why we don’t take part in the current system is because we are following the foot steps of our beloved Prophet (Saw), who refused to take part in Dadun-nadwa. Please buy some books of seerah and rear it careful and don’t relay on BBC and CNN.

3- You have failed to condemn CIA agent Bin Laden?

If you don’t understand simple words this is not my fault. I said we don’t agree with there agenda and method to achieve that. As I said I don’t know him personally, I only get information about him through media channels and I don’t rely and believe in media news blindly like you because if I start believing BBC and CNN then I will have leave Islam because its Barbaric according to them (God forbid).

4- I threw away the pamphlet because it was full of annoying rubbish?

Why don’t you accept that you lied and failed to provide evidence for what you said? In Islam we call such blame as Tohmat and there is severe punishment for such people who say things with out prove.

5-New night’s allegation:

It’s again childish. Listen to Gorge Galloway a British MP who despite of having political rivalry with HT agreed that News Night did a stupid attempt to defame HT. More over our media representative responded to this allegation on Islam channel, Taji Mustafa and exposed the cheap attempt made by News Night.

6-HT exposed.com.

Try to come up with new allegations these are old one rose by Salafees and were answered.
In short we don’t say that we don’t believe in Khabare Ahad rather what we say is that we do tasdeeq but as it is not decisive and is Thanni (non-decisive) there for we can not take it in Aqeedah because Aqeedah Must be based on Qatai (decisive evidence like Quran and Hadith Mutawatir). Try to do your own research and come up with your own arguments rather copy and pasting other people’s opinions. Your knowledge will increase as well.

Please don’t hesitate to raise points but I would request you to do some research before raising issues.

Regards

Mr.Atizaz has rightly said that now is the time to save the country. The only way to save Pakistan is to bring a radical change in the system and to bring khilafah in Pakistan and remove these Elites along with there Eletocracy, which is the main cause of our miseries and all sorts of Evils present in Pakistan.

This Elitocracy has made politics a dirty game a politics which was the duty of the prophets. In one of the hadith of prophet Muhammad(saw) he said The politics of Bani Israel was done by there prophets, but there would be no prophet after me and there would be khuluffa so the companions of the prophet(saw) asked. What do you order us O’Massenger of Allah (swt), so the prophet replied do bait one after another.

It is the time to understand the real cause of all our problems and to treat it from its roots and just symptoms.

Regards

(sorry for mistake in fact the massege i wanted to post it this)

Aslamo Alikum to all bro and sis,

Mr.Atizaz has rightly said that now is the time to save the country. The only way to save Pakistan is to bring a radical change in the system and to bring khilafah in Pakistan and remove these Elites along with there Eletocracy, which is the main cause of our miseries and all sorts of Evils present in Pakistan.

This Elitocracy has made politics a dirty game a politics which was the duty of the prophets. In one of the hadith of prophet Muhammad(saw) he said The politics of Bani Israel was done by there prophets, but there would be no prophet after me and there would be khuluffa so the companions of the prophet(saw) asked. What do you order us O’Massenger of Allah (swt), so the prophet replied do bait one after another.

It is the time to understand the real cause of all our problems and to treat it from its roots and just symptoms.

Regards

Nota
Thanks for revealing the truth. You look an informed person, I would like your opinion on Fatima Bhutto.I just saw a clip on GEO in which Fatima Bhutto spoke English and couldn’t complete a sentence in broken Urdu.

This looks very important News http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/30/top1.htm

@hope and those who criticise him/her..

i agree with hope 100% we cannot change our mindset due to the death of an individual , that is something inevitable! ppl were dying to touch her tomb? is this islam lol anyway god bless her soul . and those who now deny she had any corruption links lol references were ready in the PM house she has been convicted in switzerland! the american media calls her husband a corrupt person ? how can the husband be corrupt and wife be hero? lol and if she was the hero tel me what she did for me? IK got me the world cup! imran khan has knowledge he is the march forward

@Javed
I really don’t know much about her. She recently came on my radar after BB’s arrival and was saying all the right things and seemed to be VERY anti-BB. I thought now thee is a Bhutto I can support. But then what really disappointed me was reading that her mother Ghinva joined PML-Q just last week. Now that is beyond my comprehension. And Fatima now saying how much her aunt loved her and vice-versa also certainly goes against what Fatima has been writing. She practically blames BB for her father Murtaza’s assassination and where this sudden change comes from I don’t know!!!

@Revivalist
“In Pakistan in the last 60 years we have seen only those people could come into power who are land lords, industrialists and business men.”

Aren’t you forgetting someone here? Like the ARMY???

@Revivalist
And BRIEF answer, PLEASE!!!

BB spoke same urdu in her early days. probably quaid’s urdu was also no that good. it is sufficient that they try to speak and learn and consider it as medium of communication across country…

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the context is not corruption and even that does not justify this kind of killing. who has got ultimate right to make such decisions? only constitution and not the rouge army. although this rouge army thinks that after getting nuke in hands no one can conquer them and so to rule this country.

i think revivalist should have used a composite term ii.e. ARMY instead

Nota
Bro you are right. Fatima Bhutto was the one who called PPP, “Pervez Peoples Party”. But just wondering that in future, how will she lead the public in Larkana, Sindh and Pakistan if she is not able to communicate with them.

Pejamistri
Peja bro, I always have regards and respect for you because I see you as a thoughtful person. Just a little shocked to see you using such a rough language.

@Javed
I am unable to control myself for the last 3 days. Having high blood pressure, trying to keep away from computer and news but can not. Will probably be able to compose myself with the pessage of time…… Pordon me please.

Revivalist
You should compile all these long comments and publish them as a book. Let me know when you do so because I can’t read your all long tiring comments.

Why CNN is mourning Benazir more than any other channel in the world?

Robert Fisk: They don’t blame al-Qa’ida. They blame Musharraf:

We Pakistani’s are big believers of conspiracy theories but why not this time with NS:

Q. Which Political Party/Leader gains most after BB’s state murder?
A. Nawaz Sharif being second biggest pakistani party.
Q. Which political Party gains most after NS announced boycott?
A. PML(Q) and Chaudary’s because PML(Q) had only one rival in real terms. Q-league candidates faced only competition from N-participants.

If NS didn’t wanted to take part in elections because of BB’s death, he would have said:
- we will not take part in elections but support PPP in election campaign
-OR we will atke part in elections to crush PML-Q in Punjab and support PPP in parliment.

Any wise man would have thought of these points.

Is NS not wise or he is in same team???

from nota’s link:

…Over all this, however, looms the shocking power of Pakistan’s ISI, the Inter Services Intelligence.

This vast institution – corrupt, venal and brutal – works for Musharraf.

But it also worked – and still works – for the Taliban. It also works for the Americans. In fact, it works for everybody. But it is the key which Musharraf can use to open talks with America’s enemies when he feels threatened or wants to put pressure on Afghanistan or wants to appease the ” extremists” and “terrorists” who so oppress George Bush. And let us remember, by the way, that Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal reporter beheaded by his Islamist captors in Karachi, actually made his fatal appointment with his future murderers from an ISI commander’s office. Ahmed Rashid’s book Taliban provides riveting proof of the ISI’s web of corruption and violence. Read it, and all of the above makes more sense….

now or never ,,,pakistan at edge ,people of pakistan should wake up from 60 year long sleep…….our nation should get rid of army rule ad interferance in politics for ever also american supermacy……religious extremist are being used as escape goats for all the criminal actions of goverment of pakistan and american agencies…………..ijaz ul haq,sheik rasheed,chudry and busharaff along with crroupt army personale should thrown out of country…..may allah keep our nation safe

@Revivalist.

Please try living in the real world. I bet you live in the some modern/democratic / western country have a full stomach and sipping hot tea with free enough time to ponder on ideas like god and his/her khalifa.

My I suggest that you move to (take your pick) Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan and try practicing what your preach.

Last but not least, FYI Secularism doesn’t mean no religion, it means all religions.

After the arrival of new pictures/videos clearly showing following

1) A youngman with glasses aims at BB from close distance are fires 3 shots. He can hardly miss from that distance when he looked comfortable in aiming.

2) BB fell down immediately into the B-6 bullt/bomb proof car and died as she was unconscious and did not talk.

3) When a PPP jiala got hold of him, he expoded and that is why the rear side of vehicle is more damaged then front side.

The lever did not hit her as is clear from the pics.

Cheema did not appear today as he must be feeling ashamed after appearance of latest pics/videos.

Cheema (govt spokesman) made a blunder in his last press conference when he was reading a PUSHTO translation in urdu and claimed that Bait Ullah Mehsood made a gender mistake in Pushto.

He also did not provide the recording. Why? I think it is clear, why.

Any ways enough is enough and we should vote for democracy as that is the only way forward and if govt. decides to postpone the elections then a country wide protest to do what? Ans. “GO MUSHARAF GO” & “GO QATIL LEAGUE GO”. BB has blamed MUSH in one of her letters.

What is the criteria to be a democrate

1 You should be anti-goverment
2 You should be anti-musharraf
3 Always think negative, speak disaster, say opposite of anything goverment is saying and finally through using a bunch of criminals and drug addicts, burn trains, burn cars, public offices and do any possible cowardly action possible to blackmail and yet portray yourself as the victim.

This is the strategy of PPP as long as I know, THE SINDH card.
Fortunately these ppl can no longer hide because of media.

@nota

Drear Bro Nota, This is what I am trying to point out that in democracy, not only in Pakistan but in all countries where democracy is implemented, only a handful people and families are in ruling. The reason why these Elite people wants to spent Millions is that they know once they will get a seat in the parliament they would perform the duty of Allah(Swt) (Allah forbid). Every word of them would become a law for others. They can then earn double and triple of the amount then sent on election campaign. For them politics is a profession and a business now and there for there emerged a new term “PROFFESSIONAL POLITICIANS� That’s why Democracy is a system worse then all and contradictory to the Islamic Ruling system khilafah. Islam does not give right to humans to legislate laws according to there wishes and desires, Islam has kept the law making away from humans and only Allah(swt) is worthy of it.

Knowing all these ills in democracy we don’t take part in it and asking people not to do so, rather understand Islam and its ruling system and try to replace the current corrupt system which the system of khilafah.

In Islam as there would be no charm for those who seek to get a seat in order to secure there personal interests and to loot the resources of the people, Therefore only sincere people would come up, even if a corrupt person come into power Islam has a very strict policy of accountably unlike democracy where you are free to express your views, if you don’t want to express its your personal will. Vote and go to sleep for 5 years. In Islam it is obligatory upon Muslims to enjoin people towards good and forbid them from evil and the same applies to rulers as well.

Regards

@ Bro javed

Dear Bro javed you are not forced to read all my comments. If you could just read the headlines you can get the idea out of it. Anyways its not that much lengthy which you cant read:-)

Regards

@brumby

Dear Bro I am living in the real world the world where Muslims are suffering each and every moment. Islam has makes it an obligatory upon me and you to do something in order to bring the Ummah out from this severe oppression of enemies and of our own rulers and obviously the system of capitalism/secularism/dictatorship and democracy, to the light of Islam.

For you information I am in one of these countries you have mentioned.

Pondering upon these ideas does not always need full stomach I said again and again it is obligation (farz) upon us to think about it and to act upon it being a Muslim.

Secularism means seclusion of religion from the affairs of state. As we see after renascence Christianity was taken out from the affairs of state and I believe rightly so, because Christianity is not able to solve the problems of the humanity. As for as Islam is concern it is a complete Ideology, having socio-economic and Ruling system, in great detail. In short secularism does not mean all religions rather it means religion limited to Mosque, church and Mandir. It believes humans should be a part time employee of God and when they come out from these places of worship they should lock their God inside.

Regards

AA u were wrong there is no sindhi punjabi separation BB was leader of punjaabis too zardari is right.

well wat i think that BB’s assasination is very sad event although we have conflicting views with her regarding national matters but this is sad.we shud b united at this time n stop claiming being punjabis,sindies,pathans &balochies.lets b pakistanis.
secondly in the present circumstances free elections r simply impossible in pakistan so we shud prepare ourselves 4 yet another disaster.
third dear admin plz upload remainig episodes of this wonderful discussion n wat i believe this discussion (ALL EPISODES) is very worthy as it cover all aspects.TALAT N HIS TEAM R GREAT