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		<title>By: chau</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-48813</link>
		<dc:creator>chau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayesha!
You are right that, "After BB, the party needs a Bhutto, and that, " This is the dilemma of Pakistani nation".
Its always the government of the Bhuttos, by the Bhuttos and for the Bhuttos.
Long live dynastic rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayesha!<br />
You are right that, &#8220;After BB, the party needs a Bhutto, and that, &#8221; This is the dilemma of Pakistani nation&#8221;.<br />
Its always the government of the Bhuttos, by the Bhuttos and for the Bhuttos.<br />
Long live dynastic rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayesha</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-47523</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gul, 
             Great analysis. Pakistans political system must not be compared with the western world, dynastic or not. After BB, the party needs a Bhutto. Rural vote bank is Bhutto's, not PPP's. Establishment is aware of it. They had been dealing with BB not PPP.  Its difficult to comprehend that a teenager who has hardly spent few years of his life in Pakistan, probably has very few (or no) Pakistani friends, perhaps has never felt for the miseries of a common Pakistani, is required to lead the party with the slogan of "Roti, Kapra aur Makan". Does he understand the "meaning" of these three words? This is the dilemma of Pakistani nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gul,<br />
             Great analysis. Pakistans political system must not be compared with the western world, dynastic or not. After BB, the party needs a Bhutto. Rural vote bank is Bhutto&#8217;s, not PPP&#8217;s. Establishment is aware of it. They had been dealing with BB not PPP.  Its difficult to comprehend that a teenager who has hardly spent few years of his life in Pakistan, probably has very few (or no) Pakistani friends, perhaps has never felt for the miseries of a common Pakistani, is required to lead the party with the slogan of &#8220;Roti, Kapra aur Makan&#8221;. Does he understand the &#8220;meaning&#8221; of these three words? This is the dilemma of Pakistani nation.</p>
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		<title>By: ziza</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-47009</link>
		<dc:creator>ziza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's interesting that all the PPP decisions took place in Naudero where no one would DARE speak against Zirdari's coronation.  Even the media that was present shyed from asking hard hitting questions because I'm sure they all wanted to make it home alive.
The Bhuttos have never let the PPP emerge into a democratic force.  Charimanships for life and questionable wills and annointments are a far cry from being democratic.  Also I'm wondering why BB didn't support the CJ and AA just a litle more whole heartedly.....could it b because they were ACTUALLY emerging as popular authentic leaders for people and not just some feudal pin up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that all the PPP decisions took place in Naudero where no one would DARE speak against Zirdari&#8217;s coronation.  Even the media that was present shyed from asking hard hitting questions because I&#8217;m sure they all wanted to make it home alive.<br />
The Bhuttos have never let the PPP emerge into a democratic force.  Charimanships for life and questionable wills and annointments are a far cry from being democratic.  Also I&#8217;m wondering why BB didn&#8217;t support the CJ and AA just a litle more whole heartedly&#8230;..could it b because they were ACTUALLY emerging as popular authentic leaders for people and not just some feudal pin up?</p>
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		<title>By: econfused</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-46165</link>
		<dc:creator>econfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@siqbal00

Aitezaz Ahsan and lawyers movement is now waiting for elections. My support is unconditional for them, "no ifs and buts"

The option has to be out in the open. The alternative solution has to come out. Right now even the alternative solution is waiting on the sidelines.

At any given time, strategy should be multi-pronged, you cannot put all eggs in one basket. One strategy is support the forces who are against Army rule. The second and long term strategy is work with civil societies movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@siqbal00</p>
<p>Aitezaz Ahsan and lawyers movement is now waiting for elections. My support is unconditional for them, &#8220;no ifs and buts&#8221;</p>
<p>The option has to be out in the open. The alternative solution has to come out. Right now even the alternative solution is waiting on the sidelines.</p>
<p>At any given time, strategy should be multi-pronged, you cannot put all eggs in one basket. One strategy is support the forces who are against Army rule. The second and long term strategy is work with civil societies movement.</p>
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		<title>By: siqbal00</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-46164</link>
		<dc:creator>siqbal00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@C Hussain

This theory (rehman&#38; zardari nexus) is getting stronger by the day. GOD knows who has the motives behind it. Clearly zardari is in position to gain most out of this  tragedy
Both have the reputation to do anything for money .. Rehman's statement is highly skeptical which he gave after BB's assassination
What you expect from the guy who was head of FIA and broke all records .. i doubt even zardari can match him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@C Hussain</p>
<p>This theory (rehman&amp; zardari nexus) is getting stronger by the day. GOD knows who has the motives behind it. Clearly zardari is in position to gain most out of this  tragedy<br />
Both have the reputation to do anything for money .. Rehman&#8217;s statement is highly skeptical which he gave after BB&#8217;s assassination<br />
What you expect from the guy who was head of FIA and broke all records .. i doubt even zardari can match him</p>
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		<title>By: siqbal00</title>
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		<dc:creator>siqbal00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@econfused

"You have to say which is “No evil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@econfused</p>
<p>&#8220;You have to say which is “No evil</p>
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		<title>By: c hussain</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-46145</link>
		<dc:creator>c hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zardari has left for Dubai although he had claimed that he would remain here until Chelum. He has gone there to make sure all her property is transferred to his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zardari has left for Dubai although he had claimed that he would remain here until Chelum. He has gone there to make sure all her property is transferred to his name.</p>
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		<title>By: c hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>c hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is being a very strong reaction among PPP workers and leaders in Punjab against the election of Zardari as Co Chairman. They dont dispute Bilwal but certainly they dont want Zardari because his reputation is very bad and it seems teh party is becoming more like a Sindhi party now and even in Sindh, the elevation of Zardari as Co Chairman has not been welcomed. 

Some people are even purpoting a conspiracy theory that maybe Zardari and Rehman Malik have a hand in this and some even say that because Sherry Rehman and Naheed Khan were there in the vehicle - maybe they might have done it 

Russian intelligence agencies report that there were three people involved in this murder. 

Only Allah knows the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is being a very strong reaction among PPP workers and leaders in Punjab against the election of Zardari as Co Chairman. They dont dispute Bilwal but certainly they dont want Zardari because his reputation is very bad and it seems teh party is becoming more like a Sindhi party now and even in Sindh, the elevation of Zardari as Co Chairman has not been welcomed. </p>
<p>Some people are even purpoting a conspiracy theory that maybe Zardari and Rehman Malik have a hand in this and some even say that because Sherry Rehman and Naheed Khan were there in the vehicle - maybe they might have done it </p>
<p>Russian intelligence agencies report that there were three people involved in this murder. </p>
<p>Only Allah knows the best</p>
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		<title>By: econfused</title>
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		<dc:creator>econfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sigbal00

I am glad I am still able to surprise you. If you think PPP leaders has the courage, what is stopping them to come out and speak against Zardari. I support stance of anybody who is against Army rule be it PPP or PML-N, PTI or anybody else. 

You know we cannot have angels to lead Pakistan. I have been saying with the LIMITED choices available, I will pick lesser evil. I know you do not want to pick any kind of evil and I respect that.  May be I am not on that level of honesty where you are at the moment. May be I still have hope for my country. 

You have to say which is "No evil" viable option available at the moment, I am more than willing to change my stance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sigbal00</p>
<p>I am glad I am still able to surprise you. If you think PPP leaders has the courage, what is stopping them to come out and speak against Zardari. I support stance of anybody who is against Army rule be it PPP or PML-N, PTI or anybody else. </p>
<p>You know we cannot have angels to lead Pakistan. I have been saying with the LIMITED choices available, I will pick lesser evil. I know you do not want to pick any kind of evil and I respect that.  May be I am not on that level of honesty where you are at the moment. May be I still have hope for my country. </p>
<p>You have to say which is &#8220;No evil&#8221; viable option available at the moment, I am more than willing to change my stance.</p>
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		<title>By: theamenableone</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/01/05/mistaken-comparisons-political-families-vs-dynasties/#comment-46093</link>
		<dc:creator>theamenableone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gul,
 
You make a good case but you are making out the American political system to be some system that is totally judged on merit when in fact the electoral system is heavily flawed. Hilary Clinton may be having to "prove" herself but a few months ago she was considered the unequivocal nominee of the Democratic Party because she was Bill Clinton's wife, her credentials notwithstanding. Had she been someone else's spouse, say the spouse of Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine no one would have given her a second glance. She has had it easy because of who she is married to. There is no doubt that she considers or rather considered until a few months ago that the Democratic nomination was hers by right. Secondly, George W. Bush became the heir apparent to his father George Herbert Walker Bush not because he is smart or possesses the credentials, but simply cos his family has been engaged in politics since time immemorial. And now that mantle is being passed onto George Prescott Bush, Jeb Bush's son, to take it to the next level. There may be a bit of merit (and I say that cringing), but in the US as in Pakistan your family connections and money actually drives your election to a post. I agree that Bilawal Bhutto is far from ready to take on this post and should never have been appointed to be the torch bearer for the Bhuttos, but using your argument one can make the case that Benazir Bhutto was singularly qualified to take on her father's mantle when she came in 1986, given her trial by fire. She came and campaigned like any other and was eventually elected prime minister. 
Keep up the writing. How about something on the unravelling of Musharraf now?
Cheers,
theamenableone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gul,</p>
<p>You make a good case but you are making out the American political system to be some system that is totally judged on merit when in fact the electoral system is heavily flawed. Hilary Clinton may be having to &#8220;prove&#8221; herself but a few months ago she was considered the unequivocal nominee of the Democratic Party because she was Bill Clinton&#8217;s wife, her credentials notwithstanding. Had she been someone else&#8217;s spouse, say the spouse of Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine no one would have given her a second glance. She has had it easy because of who she is married to. There is no doubt that she considers or rather considered until a few months ago that the Democratic nomination was hers by right. Secondly, George W. Bush became the heir apparent to his father George Herbert Walker Bush not because he is smart or possesses the credentials, but simply cos his family has been engaged in politics since time immemorial. And now that mantle is being passed onto George Prescott Bush, Jeb Bush&#8217;s son, to take it to the next level. There may be a bit of merit (and I say that cringing), but in the US as in Pakistan your family connections and money actually drives your election to a post. I agree that Bilawal Bhutto is far from ready to take on this post and should never have been appointed to be the torch bearer for the Bhuttos, but using your argument one can make the case that Benazir Bhutto was singularly qualified to take on her father&#8217;s mantle when she came in 1986, given her trial by fire. She came and campaigned like any other and was eventually elected prime minister.<br />
Keep up the writing. How about something on the unravelling of Musharraf now?<br />
Cheers,<br />
theamenableone</p>
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