The difference is basic, I want people should decide and not a sarkari mulazim. If a sarkar mulazim wants to be a leader, constitution gives him and process. I for one do not have any say in PPP decision. If people still want to vote for that party, I don’t have any problem. I have different version of Kargil, as reported by world media (Now you will say biased media). Lets for sake we accept that NS did it (I don’t agree), He was Prime Miniser, if people hated him, he would have been gone in next elections.

Please If you are serious in discussion, try to understand how democracy works. It is the will of people. There is no silver bullet. I hereby DENOUNCE ARMY RULE, if its not patriotic, I do not want that label.

I was trying to make a point that your government did not provided enough security and allowed the KILLING of politician i.e. BB. I do not condone any form of violence against any one. I was giving you example what happened to politicians.

As for corruption of CJ is concerned, you only have a letter of Naeem Bokari as a proof. While I was looking for some thing concrete, that you would list his decisions or cases which he has taken as CJ

Personally I have problem with speaking Hindi or Dari, because people are still speaking Bengali in Bangladesh (no hindi). I cannot give this credit to Army. We have seen what this army has done in 1965, 1971 and Kargil. I have nothing more to say. If you did not know, then I have to inform you, Army did not conquer Pakistan in 1947. It was an act of british parliament because of peoples movement. Even then we have landlords and feudals.

I understand the feudal system and landlords, and my question to what do you got in Kings party? angels. I do not even have problem with kings party, if they win election fairly.

As people of Pakistan not coming to street, same was being said for Bengalis not coming to street. When you put all the leaders in Jail or under house arrest and think the movement is gone? Its called Wishful thinking.

Last, lets for the sake of argument, CJ is corrupt, what about 60 others? I mean if your whole proof is based on letter, then there are stories that ISI made videos of certain judges/relative who are now PCO judges? Should I believe in that also. Personally I only care, if law as followed in any decision.

Alright so more stooges coming for Musharraf. I can certainly appreciate that you side with Army. If CJ is corrupt, then we have to bring record for al the cases he has done as CJ, and point where was teh corruption?

We don’t care if the parties has no democracy, becaause in election it is a common man who still votes for them and that is a definition of democracy. We do not want army to run the government, because if we don’t like their policies for whatever reason, we cannot throw army out. Now in case of politicians, there is always a chance that he will be either kicked out or KILLED.

econfused on January 12th, 2008 6:19 pm

As your login name sugegsts you are really confused. I never knew people on this forum are allowed to propagate hatered to an extent where they will be promoting killing of individuals. See thats what people like you believe in hatered and killing. It is very hypocritical to call your self a human being with those embedded in you. There are only 8 urban areas in Pakistan where people have autonomy towards electing a politicial leader( who by the way does not believe in elections in their own party) where as in rest of the country it is either landlords or industrialists who force an ordinary Pakistani to vote for them ( a form of fascism). My friend if army would ot be there you will either be speeking Hindi or Dari. So my advice to you is to thank God for what you have and stop falling for the empty promises made by your beloved politicians who don’t even know when do they want to participate in elections and when they don’t. Also if you want to know about the corruption of CJ just read the letter by Naeem Bokhari written to the president. I think People of Pakistan are much smarter than you that is why they don’t come on the streets in protest of CJ’s detention. When are you invited next to either Raiwind or Larkana!!!!

Ya,I second your view, and I think when we can have confidence building measures,people to people contact and dialogues with India why not within our country,with our fellow peoples of different provinces.There is need of sincere efforts to integrate people and enhance people to people contact,keeping aside controversial issues like KALA BAAGH DAM,Gawadar Port etc for the time being and make a min consensus on all socio political agenda.

Dialogue and only dialogue can help us in ending mistrust.Biggest challenge I see is mistrust between all provinces and center.AT all levels,we need to intiate with all capacity dialogue and people to people contact.

@Admin can also upload prgs and some times folk music or documentries relating to other smaller provinces.It may also help to integrate.It is high time,we all educated buddies should play our role before it is too late.

Musnif Sindhi

I have alreay said provincialautonomy and control of resources is th basic pint f starting fresh.
I AGREEWITH YOU.
Dialogue and people to peple contact is goodthing.
Good bless all provinces and fedration of pakistan

The propaganda that channels are foriegn paid must be coming from the Fauji uncle or father. Jang Group of publication has been here since forever. It is biggest in Pakistan. So unles you have some hard facts about foriegn money flowing in you should bring up that, otherwise it is just yor say against them.

Now we do know that millions do come for Army, its been reported every where.

Alright so more stooges coming for Musharraf. I can certainly appreciate that you side with Army. If CJ is corrupt, then we have to bring record for al the cases he has done as CJ, and point where was teh corruption?

We don’t care if the parties has no democracy, becaause in election it is a common man who still votes for them and that is a definition of democracy. We do not want army to run the government, because if we don’t like their policies for whatever reason, we cannot throw army out. Now in case of politicians, there is always a chance that he will be either kicked out or KILLED.