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February 4, 2008
Two Million Rupees a Night
Musharraf’s stay, at a luxury hotel opposite to Hyde Park, has cost Rs. 2 Million or roughly £17,000 per night to Pakistani tax payers. A four night stay would roughly amount to 8 Million Rupees and this does not include the cost of rooms for the entire team that accompanied Musharraf during his unofficial European trip.
Senior British journalists have reported to be smiling all the time while Musharraf was disgracefully distributing charge sheet against Chief Justice of his own country to foreigners related to fuel/medical expenses, and probably his son’s admission in Medical College that happened a decade ago.
While Musharraf recently added a $60 Million (Rs 3.6 Billion) Learjet into his fleet of 14 VVIP aircrafts, Chief Justice, who is much more senior than the Army Chief, was accused of using Mercedes car.
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I sorry to say BUT,
B**********NCh***********D!!!!!!!
MA**********CH***********D!!!!!!!
What the hell mann!!!!!!
Which hotel is that — 17000 quids per night!!!!
Thats bloody unbelieveable, Hilton don’t charge anything close to that amout and thats right in front of Hyde Park—–
I mean hilton charge like a few hundred pounds per night and it is a bloody
5 star, and I believe Burj Al Arab Hotel in Dubai is the only 7 star hotel in the world.
And besides Burj Al Arab dont even charge that kind of money.The cost of staying in a SUITE begins at $1,000 or £500 per night and increases to over $15,000 or £7500 per night.
For the ROYAL MOST SUITE their charges are around
£14000/night or $28000.
Kia Kamray kay saath Paris Hilton bhi milti hai????
ye us ka pakistan hai jo sadre pakistan hai
Please I am no Mush Fan but he is the Preident of Pakistan ,what would you like that he stay at Motel 6 Have some perspective
YE US KA PAKISTAN HAI JO SADRE PAKISTAN HAI
POORAY PAKISTAN MAIN AIK HI INSANE HAI WOH SADRE PAKISTAN HAI
JO PAKISTAN KA BERA GHAK KAR SAKTA HAI WOH CURRENT SADRE PAKISTAN HAI
JISKO SAB PAKISTANI HATE KARTAY HAIN FOR CURRENT SADRE PAKISTAN HAI
…..it’s getting cuter and cuter….let’s make this poem and publish it in Jang newspaper……let’s do it…I know there are many smart minds out there…..
All this expenditure must have to be recovered from the funds of PMLQ and Chaudry Pervaiz illahi ,Sh. Rasheed ,Sher Afghan etc., as the madman (declared by his Rtd. army officers) represents them and not Nation . His tour/excurtion was totally unnessary . Has brought no benifit to the Nation in gernal except wastage of money , energy and time .
This man needs be to removed from from power, and be accountable for all the crimes he had comitted against the people of Pakistan. He also be made liable for all expences incured during his recent visit. I firmly believe that many of his foreign trips were unnecessary, particularly his last visit.
Look what happened again in Pakistan…..when our President is having some fun…..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7225551.stm
I would love for this A**hole to get the “Saddam Treatment” …
@asim
“Please I am no Mush Fan but he is the Preident of Pakistan ,what would you like that he stay at Motel 6 Have some perspective”
again one of the same guy who starts with “although I am not pro-mushi but …..”
bhaijan can a self-imposed president of a country where 70% of population lives under poverty line afford to have this luxury. If US president does this then he has a excuse of being the president of the wealthiest country of the world but still he will not dare because he is accountable to his people who are watching how each and every penny of tax payer’s money is spent.
Anybody have any estimates on this? I’m sure if this was a duly elected prime minister our jiyaala fucking jurnails would already be jumping the walls of the prime minister house and PTV at 1:00 am in the morning…
GawD these f*kers!!!.. They’re completely useless pieces of shit!
I think this is a gup that his daily cost for Mush is 17000 quids….I don’t believe this rumour unless someone mentions the name of the hotel where he is staying…..there is nothing in west that expansive….chornay walay bhi khuli chortay hain…..mana kay mush ga….du hai but he is g…nd maring to the whole nation…..that is the problem…..he should be eliminated like Zia…..
@ asim
your saying is
“Please I am no Mush Fan but he is the Preident of Pakistan ,what would you like that he stay at Motel 6 Have some perspective”
I disagree with you. He is not the President of Pakistan he is unconstitutional President of Pakistan. His case is still in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
What do you expect that why he spent 9 days there and what was the reason of this tour. People are fighting to get the “ata” and “bijli” and he is enjoying and playing bridge. How can you say that you are not the fan of this brutal Mush. I am sorry to say this. He is the offensive.
Allah Pakistan ko is mujrim say bachaye. Ameen
@ bechari-awam
I agree with you. Look how asim is saying that he is not the fan of Mush but……… You are absolutely right.
100% Rumour — unless someone disclose the hotel information and I get the information myself
Mush does not even deserve Motel 6 because he has no respect for Pakistani people. I was extremely shocked when he said about pakistani journalists, who are courageous, that they should be beaten up if required to shut their mouths.
EXTREMELY PATHETIC STATEMENT AS A SO CALLED PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN!!!!
tera pakistan hai na maira pakistan hai
Mush ka pakistan hai jo sadre pakistan hai
is pai ham qurban is pai ham hee qurban hain
iski bunyadoun mai hai tera lahoo mera lahooo
roshan khayali,baigairati, munafiqat hee to sab ki shan hai
zulam, zayadati, gurbat, fahashi mai to awami jan hai
or mai kiya kiya kahooon or mai kiya kahooon
tera pakistan hai na maira pakistan hai
Mush ka pakistan hai jo sadre pakistan hai
is pai ham qurban is pai ham hee qurban hain
amar bil maruf, khaufai khuda is which we did not doooooo,
namaz, rasool is the basics which we have forgot tooo
Mush ka less or its our fault yai hamri hi fault hai
is pai deen qurban or islam bhi qurban hai
To my knowledge the Executive suite in Hilton Manchester was 2150 British Pounds during the cristmas period, donno if its a bit less now?
I reckon 17000 per night would hav been the cost of stay for all the d**k heads!
@Asim
I know man you got so many comments already, i just wanna share one thing
Musharaf has to learn some thing from MAHTEER MUHAMMAD (ex- president of Malysia), Most of the time when he visited any foreign country, he stayed at ambasador house to save money for his country.
Here is our SADR, aqal say kissi sardar say kum nai hai yeh.
As usual, no body is pointing out his scandal of expenses bcos he is in power BUT wait and see. Once he is out of power, everything will come up in scene.
@ kamran
very well pointed out sir. No wonder Mush wants to stay in power. It may be an exaggerated figure but general musharraf spends a lot really a lot on himself. and his security, while pakistan is engulfed in flames.
Rumours abound that while in Pakistan, top notch hoteliers / businessmen take turns in making one night of the ‘ boss , as ‘ lively & comfortable ‘ as possible’
by arranging a dinner & dance party, expensive wines & . . . . ‘ kababs & shababs ‘ ?
Is that CORRECT or just RUMOURS & RUBBISH ? Could somebody please CONFIRM or DENY ?
That is how these corrupt rulers are spending the money of this ummah at the time when the Ummah is suffering from severe poverty and hardships. Anyway the day is not far when they will be answerable for what ever crime they have to done to this noble Ummah by the will of Allah (Swt).
Regards
SnrCtzn
SO what else is new. Lavish parties in farm houses of almost all major cities are held by the elites. everything is available, which is termed as modernization.
I never hate anybody until today but i hate only rtd general paja and Q(kutey wali)leage,
Shoe of CJ grater then head of rtd general pervez
GO TO GOOGLE AND FIND THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOTEL IN THE WORLD.THAN YOU WILL FIND THE RESULTS.BASICALLY BROTHER OF MR SHUJAAT HUSSAIN WAS ARRESTED BECAUSE HE SMUGGLED MILLIONS OF DOLLERS IN CASH FOR MR MUSHARRAF .SHUJAAT BROTHERS HOLD ALL OF MUSHARAFF MONEY WHICH IS IN BILLIONS OF DOLLERS.$17000.00 IS NOTHING FOR THEM.WHY ALL OF YOU ARE WORRIED ?WHEN MUSHARAFF WILL ESCAPE FROM PAKISTAN THROUGH AFGHANISTAN TO LONDON OR USA THEN HE WILL GET MONEY FROM SHUJAAT & COMPANY .
Nothing will happen to Mush….wins or looses power….he has good relations with Bush…he will leave pakistan and no one will be able to do or prove anything…in the end….anything that he has done, will become our past….that’s how pakistan politics is….when they have power, they have full access to pakistan resources…..it’s like billi ko doodh ki rakhwali kay liay chor dain….if our institutions are not strong and there are no solid processes, pakistan will go downhill day by day…..look back and you will agree with me….
Mush has called an emergency meeting after that incident in rawalpindi, probably deciding to stay in power and let these incidents take place.
just another piece of crap from rauf klasra. i bet there is no hotel in the whole england which charges 17000 pound per night. Jang group is famous for promoting columnists like this who are clearly lieing to its readers. According to the daily telegraph, the most expensive hotel suit is the Ty Warner Penthouse on the 52nd floor of the Four Seasons Hotel, that standard-bearer of discreet wealth and impeccable taste in mid-Manhattan, New York. Checking in costs nearly £15,000 a night – hardly a bargain compared to the next most expensive contenders: the Imperial Suite at the Hotel President Wilson in Geneva (£11,500) and the Presidential Suite at the Martinez in Cannes (£9,000).
There is no excuse whatsoever for this gross and vulgar display of wealth by a man as intellectually poor and morally bankrupt as musharraf! This is our money that he is using! How dare we let him! I say Pakistanis should stop paying taxes, let the army suffer, let these monsters suffer!
Why arent we taking to the streets over this? It should be enough to make enrage every Pakistani, the pain should be tantamount to losing a loved one, we are losing this country, please, for the sake of whatever that you hold dear and sacred make your voices heard! Join the movement for the restoration of democracy, for the release the illegally imprisoned judges and lawyers, for the restoration of the 1973 Constitution, for the protection of basic human rights!
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, however small you may think it is. Let us not go to our graves regretting that we did not even speak out against the injustice and tyranny.
Pakistan Zindabad!
I think the charges would be higher if you incllude special security arrangements. To me that might be the reason. Whatever rates have been quoted here by fellow members are standard rates. But if we include the security and related charges for a stooge like Mush. They can go up to that extent.
Just a guess……
Many rumours are being circulated about the whys and wherefores of this Chaudhry episode. One colourful rumour, probably all hot air, has it that Brother Wajahat and his son, when in Spain, spent cash lavishly on purchasing as many properties as possible in the chic southern coastal regions. The Spanish police tipped off the Brits about the cash-laden Chaudhries and the family was taken off the plane at Gatwick airport. Their ordeal was no worse, undoubtedly, than that suffered by many an adventurous traveller who forgets that he is not in his own land but in a land where the law prevails.
May be many rooms have been hired for him and his companions. Think the issue is not heavy spending; all head would be doing same without notice. It becomes funny news item when he blames CJ for petty cash embezzlements and does not see his own spending and style.
It is also important to note that this is not his OFFICIAL visit. Govt. of UK has not invited him to visit so I do not think that he is representing Pakistan here.
Please do not forget that when Mush goes to any country, Pakistan government doesn’t rely on ONE or FEW rooms. They rent out whole floors ‘for security reasons’.
They are so shameless and so are his Mush lovers who come and say ‘please I am not Mush lover but….’
And I think the hotel they are talking about is Dorchester, not Hilton (not 100% sure but generally Mush uses that.
Chief Justice Iftikhar was doing bigger corruption. According to references against him, he was buying tooth paste without paying.
Oh My God: Pakistani people were charged 30 rupees for tooth paste. Mush is right to save us that 30 rupees.
He was staying at Rochester Hotel opposite Hyde Park. Actually the cost of 1700 pounds per night doesnt reflect that of the room but being President of Pakistan he had to have a very high security and therefore additional rooms are also booked and the hotel also loses a lot because not everyone is welcome there then due to VIP stay - so thats why they then charge such exhobirant amount of money. Thats why usually suct trips to Europe and USA are undertaken only if they officially invited because then the cost is borne by the country which invites but in this case - MANN NA MANN MEIN TERE MEHMAN - so here he was without any invitation and hence it included all the cost of security.
He is a ruthless person without any consicience and Q league which support him should be ashamed of him
@ahsan,
I dont know if you are aware or not, but illegal usurper Musharraf was NOT invited by the British govt. Why did he go in the first place? if he wants to play bridge with brigadier Niaz or screw white women or whatever drives his desire to fly to foreign countries every few days, then he should pay for it.
@ c hussain
Thanks for endorisng my views.
Unchi dokan
Pheeka Pakwan
Khaki wardi
Qaum ka qabrastan
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9U2Z6zc0FRQ
the name of the hotel is Lanesborough and for a night in its executive suite it does charge an emormous amount..and he might have stayed with a whole bunch of his staff..
I think our leader always been doing that and using Pakistan as their personal property. I was in new york when Benazir Shaheed came for UNO meeting she was staying as Waldorf Astoria with her whole team. I dont remember exact numbers but when Newyork post gave the numbers Benazir expence was number 4 after all the rich arab states among all the world leader. Singapore president had least expence because he came with one team member and they stayed with their relatives.
this is sad the amount this person has spent likely was enough to feed the whole village for months.
Oh, Sybarite generals and low paid foot soldiers of the nuclear armed poor nation of Pakitan. Shame, Shame
Mush was staying at Dorchester Hotel and the top floor suite was booked for him for security. Dorchester is the 2nd most expensive after Lanesboro Hotel (around the corner from Dorchester) where Ex PM SA used to stay. Mush didnt stay there because Lanesboro is just off the main road and not as secure (as a Commando of Pak Army desrves!)
all PMs and Presidents of Pak should stay at High Commissioner’s residence (its a lavish 12 bed House in Kenwood, Hampstead). After all American Pres Bush stayed at his Ambassador’s house when he visited UK
By the way Mush also claimed TA/DA during his stay
One thing more you guys missed and that is even more amusing
BARYEY MIAN TO BAREY MIAN CHOTAY MIAN SUBHANALLAH
The caretaken prime minsiter Somorro visits Yemen and SA. Now one may ask him what had you gone there for - you job is to just hold elections and go back to your job - what were you doing there for - Pakistan wouldnt have lost anything if that visit could have been deferred until the elected Prime Minister came.
And Yemen - what was the important thing about that country - where just the ambassador should be enough to do things - why did this Somorro had to go there for.
Any PM comes he starts taking this country for a ride.
All caretakers should be banned from travelling abroad - as they have no business to go out of the country. Somooro even did Umra at the expense of Pakistan - shame on him - why would Allah accept Umra of a person who has stolen tax payers money?
Sorry for mistake - it was Dochester hotel - I dont know why Rochester was clicking in my mind - maybe I had read somewhere. Any sorry for that. But the essense is same - just to defame Chaudhry Iftikhar this guy had come shamelessly to UK and other countries - thinking people here would buy his lies - typical of MQM style - kay jhoot itna bolo kay sach lagnay lagay.
Altaf Hussain has said yesterday that we should accept the new PCO judges because we accepted the old ones also - What an argument and what a logic. If once a woman has grudgingly accepted the fate that she has been raped then that means she can be raped again and again because she was helpless the first time and could not protest. Shame on you Altaf Ghunda.
I am feeling that Mr. Musharraf is now having only few supporters and most of them are in MQM. I don’t know but i am feeling that these people are supported by some invisible external hands too, i might be wrong here too.
MQM is one of the biggest test for the people of Pakistan, one can see how came the decision of Sindh High Court!!! Clear killings by the MQM were thrown into dust bin.
For MQM, there are no limits; they take it as a war and say in war everything is justified including lies, killings, injustice, corruption… They also use the pretext that since all are corrupt so they must also be corrupt, what a logic. I think they are blind towards so many nice people in Pakistan who are not corrupt.
Their building is built on lies, killings and corruption so they have to save their building and it would be most probably saved through same corrupt means. I hope that they could see things through open, neutral and realistic eyes. Even if there have been some injustices against MQM, they can’t be used as a excuse to do all what they like otherwise this process of wrongdoings will stop no where!!!
This was indeed reprehensible that in a country where more and more people are now struggling to make ends meet, where flour has gotten out of the reach of common people, where clean drinking water is now becoming a luxuary that common people do not have access to, these people are spending people’s tax money lavishly on themselves. This is, unfortunately, not a new phenomenon as this was also done in the past by other rulers where herds of people were flown with the heads of the states.
Benazir alongwith hudreds of others have given their lives in order to save Pakistan and “MARHABA” many more are ready to follow their footsteps. Make no mistake however, you are dealing with ruthless Musharraf and his gang who are prepared to do their worst yet. I feel in my bones that this lot will have to go but they are not going to go easily.
I ask all Pakistanis we are a poor country yet I am sure it can be made a better place. Why do we need such a huge army and its good for nothing Generals?
Just a small army enough to take care of the nuclear weapons should have to do.
Most of the released could be engaged in trhe agriculture field.
The hotel was dorchester and its second best to lansborough. mush always stays there, whenever he has come to london after the take over of the country not only this time around. And well he also roams around in style, with a fleet of quite a few rolce phantoms. i think news like these should bought forward by the media so that future leaders of our country are discouraged from such abuse of pakistan’s wealth.
Mush sees himself going down and wanted to avail probably this last opportunity to use tax payers money for his travel targetting personal PR. (Agree/Disagree?)
dorcester cost 600 pounds per night.. he stayed for three days so 1800 pounds… I dont agree with admin..
hehehehe 17000 pound per night, i think Aish won’t take that much to stay with Mush as well, please don’t put these kinda news on ur website otherwise u will lose ur credibility. But again my point is even if we replaced every one like Musharraf, MQM, PML-Q,N, PPP but do u guys think that the problem will be solved….. the biggest problem of Pakistan is Establishment that includes only few Punjabi Feudals and corrupts Army Generals (not people from province of Punjab as I know better that they are also facing same problems as other Pakistani). We should understand as wht the grass root problem is. I am not expecting any change in Pakistan but things might slightly change if you give provincial autonomy to provincess as mentioned in 1973 const. as well so that no province will raise the finger towards only one province and the guys who beleive that Feudals from Punjab are controlling ESTABLISHMENT with provincial autonomy they will not be able to intervene in the issues of other provincess and things might silghtly move in a better direction….. please comments ….
@frrana,
Please refer to the Jang Column link under the article. BTW, the dorchester website is showing rates up to £4,200 per night for the suite, so I am not sure where you come up with £600 a day.
Admin
The most expensive roof/terrace suites are around 6500 BP/Night.
Check out the decor of those rooms for yourselves. FA Fail? No problem, just make sure you have the “courage” to put a gun to your mother’s head to steal some money she’s been saving for your sisters wedding! (Well, a Fauji coup is basically an equivalent of that scenario)
http://www.thedorchester.com/rooms_suites/terrace_suite.html
I can see how they could have charged him 18000 GBP/night because they probably had to rent the 3 suites below for his cronies and the security people.
Let’s say they spent 50,000 GBP per night. So just the hotel stay would be around 250,000 … I really hope this incompetent is worth spending this kind of National money on!
Given that a large majority of Pakistani’s lives on around 2GBP a day, it is a matter of shame that our goddamned ILLEGAL USURPER “president” gets to blow this much on a weekend stay for an UNINVITED visit to Britain!
@ Admin
Did he stayed in a SUITE ?? £350-525 website shows for junior suite room. which is per night with out 17.5% VAT. There it come £600.
Even then I am not saying mush ( **TTA) did right that is my poor nation money.
admin please upload capital talk.. ages never heard some hot discussion.. 3rd nov ke bad, politics mein spice kam hota ja raha ahi.. I am waiting for 18 feb ..
@ frrana
You have all the signs of MQM Munafiq.
HOW FRRANA DEFENDS MUSH/MQM
One there was a news about MQM and everyone was condemning Altaf (his letter to Sindhis), I remember Frrana tried to change the discussion and said
‘ @ admin: have you been bought by the government? where is Capital Talk?’
Now Frrana comes here telling us that Suite price of junior suite and tells us that Mush (Kutta) is not his/her favourite!!!!
Mush stayed in Switzerland and many other places in Europe.
It was his 80th visit.
Just imagine how much money has been plundered!!
amaaN @frrana bhayyiaa! khayaal kaRnaa kaheeN bechaari Qaum kay Gham maeN AaNsoo bahaatay bahaatay Aankh maeN moch nah Aa jaavey!
Where Pakistan’s money going??
“How can a nation build a middle class? The first key is to build an education system that delivers hope and real opportunity. Good public educational opportunity is the key to the economic and political progress of nations, and it can be so in the Islamic world as well. But in Pakistan $4.5 billion is spent on the military each year – an astounding 1,400% more than on education.”
(Source Benazir Bhutto’s new book ‘Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy & the West’)
Please note that above amount does not mention ‘indirect’ money laundering, secret money to fund covert operations and a recent $10 billion from the US for NaPak Generals.
the most interesting comment in fact most dumbest comment Did mush stay in a suite. He could have stayed in junior suite. the guy who would plan trips with public money without being invited and uses the visit to malign the CJ (and takes a team of sycophants on state expense to accompany him) and get personal gain would stay in a junior suite: what a joke. are we dumb or do we just pretend to be? or may be we consider others to be.
may i add that i am no mush supporter but……………..oops sorry still can’t find anything positive about him
Hey guys I’m not a genocide supporter.. but ummm… what if whe just cruelly drowned everyone in Karachi by causing a massive flood?
I mean don’t get me wrong.. I hate this death thingy as much as the next dood, but gee wouldn’t it just be SWELL if we could just drown the whole of karachi?
I mean don’t get me wrong… I’m just saying…
I am not a Tab’an Khamosh supporter BUT I think he has a valid point. After all, genocide have happened in the history. We should listen to him very carefully.
£17,625
Royal Penthouse The Dorchester, London
Few people except heads of state know about the Royal Penthouse. The Dorchester has a Howard Hughes-style shyness of publicity about the four-bedroom duplex – formerly the Sultan of Brunei’s London pad.
Occupying the eighth and ninth floors above Park Lane, it’s decorated in empire and classical 18th-century style, with a scenic trompe l’oeil and a master bathroom of 24-carat gold plate and black marble. It has two dining rooms, two drawing rooms, a hairdressing room and a cinema. The vast terrace overlooks Hyde Park and Mayfair – though, if you’re staying here, you probably own chunks of that already.
As in the other suites, exotic materials are an obsession: rare marbles, Italian drapes and a New Zealand wool carpet with more than twice the normal number of tufts and a design picked out in 22-carat gold threads. The sultan would surely approve.
020 7629 8888, http://www.thedorchester.com
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/article2320293.ece
@ Ali
well done. Thanks for the link.
@ frrana
FYI even a half decent hotel cost about 350-500 a night in the US.
@Optimist
You are right on the money. @frrana is definitely a munafiq.
@Tab’an Khamosh
I missed your point on the theory of drowing everyone in Karachi. Can you elaborate on it.
Bhai Sahib,
YEH HARAMI APNI ZINDIGI KAY AKHARI LAMHAY GUZAR RAHA HAY, AKHAR KO TO IS KO DOZIGH MEI JANA HAY IS LIYAH US KI YEH AKHARI KHAWAISH SAMAJ KER MOAAF KER DO
@Amir Hameed: I was going for sarcasm there.. I got nothing against Karachi bro.
“Butcher of Waziristan meets Butcher of Palestine”
Recent reports have reached Pakistan that General Musharraf held a clandestine meeting with Ehud Barak in Paris on 23/1/08. According to a report on a pro-Israeli web-site ynetnews Barak said, “We support your people and back you due to your significance in securing world peace,” Barak said. Musharraf placed his hand on Barak’s shoulder and replied, “Thank you very much. God willing, I hope you will make progress in the peace process.” In fact so eager was Musharraf to strengthen his relationship with Israel that he convened a second meeting which lasted for an hour. With the spilt blood of Muslims as a common platform between the two leaders, it was reported that they discussed Iran and extremism as mutual topics of interest.
Over the years Musharraf has tirelessly positioned himself before the Pakistani people as the champion of the Palestinian cause; however, Musharraf like the other rulers of the Muslim world has already abandoned Palestinians in exchange for Israeli recognition. Once again, Musharraf like the other rulers is looking for a convenient opportunity to publicly announce his full fledged support for Israel and its belligerent policies against the Palestinians.
The problem of Palestine like the other burning issues of the Muslim world must be treated comprehensively, and the ummah must work hard to remove the despotic leaders who readily embrace her enemies by working hard to re-establish the Islamic Khilafah.
REgards
This is for Mr. Aosaf who I don’t know why is trying to act childish. It is part of a common sense that whenever a Prime Minister, President or any other such important personal stays somewhere, the security agencies have to rent out all the surrounding rooms or flats, houses .. depends upon the situation. Same would be the case in Mr. Mousearraf where he would have rented out every single room around his room. Thats why the cost of one night’s living becomes this much.
@Saladin: I understand the logic, I just don’t understand why the palatial ambassadorial residence (20 rooms from what I gather) isn’t good enough for Herr Prezzuuhdunt (illegal) Mushie ??
Is this not the same man who came under the umbrella of propaganda that the “so called jamhoori hukmaraan” were engaging in these kinds of activities… ? I remember him making trips to the US in 2001 in regular PIA planes and all the Pakistanis gushing over what Patriot he was??
1999 wasn’t that long ago you know.
Admin
Another important news by BBC has been reported that Asif Ali Zardari has said that he can also be Prime Minister - please put it up for comments and discussion as this is a very important development - it shows true colours of this guy and I think he has sold himself to Pervez Musharraf but I feel very very sad for PPP because if this is announced then that is end of PPP in Punjab and in Sindh also there would be a big reaction to him - he is a highly controversial figure and no one would ever - not even PPP - would accept him as Prime Minister
Another related news is that leaking of BB’s book which is soon going to be published and it says that BB has nominated one of OBL and Mehsood Baitullah to be after her life - now this is also very controversial
Asif Zardari is upto something - he cannot change himself - his greed would never end.
Admin please do put up this - he was giving interview in Newsweek in which he has claimed that there not a single person in PPP who is so well known
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2008/02/080205_asif_zardari_pm_ra.shtml
@c hussain: Makhdoom Amin Fahim was duped! to make him pliant at the critical time of getting everyones agreement on the will..
Zardari started doing all the media interviews almost immediately afterwards and pushed M.A.F in the background literally two days after announcing he was ‘co chairman’
Benazir’s will contains a Key word: “Aboori”. So this Zardari “appointment” even if not faked, is only transitory. And a transition/caretaker post cannot confer the position to someone else in the family.
But this is Pakistani politics and for everyone who would say this is not the right way to do it you’ll find thousands (lakhs even?) who would just follow the bloodline blindly. Peoples Party was publicly sacrificed at the altar of realpolitik in 86 when the likes of Naheed and Jahangir Badar showed up and the likes of Farooq Laghaari openly auctioned PPP tickets to the highest bidder.
It has been downhill since The Lahore Return.
When Bush came to Pakistan, he stayed at the Islamabad residence of US ambassador.
When he came to London, he stayed at the residence of ambassador in London.
What a cost effective, logical and safe way. Even Bush can work out that!!!!!!!
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/where_to_stay/article2320293.ece
go to this site and see £17,625 Royal Penthouse The Dorchester, London …. well this B******D needs to be treated like Saddam. He has forgotten ALLAH. He thinks he will live for ever… but Inshallah he along with his general party will be IBRAT for those who want to fill his boots. How can this man sleep while the nation is dying…..? most dirty piece of SH*T
why are people crying for such.He is pure dictator and want to live like royals.He can never see the pains and trouble of common man as he is not a common man.That’s why he fired jamali and hired an alien who continously told him that there is no poor class in pakistan all are becoming richer and richest in his tenure.These kind of people always opted to live in lavish security where no poor like culture can even penetrate to disturb their lifestyles.Those people who are wailling on his expenditures must go and see the lavish adventures of his subordinates generals who are working in army or sister organistaions of army, NAB and many many more.They entitled them selves of frequent foriegn tours that include first class business travels in foriegn airlines usually with spouses, top class hotels with always royal suites,luxurious imported cars for themselves and families, huge TA/DA in euros, and each one is using such huge expenditures on the name of development of country for last many many years.So one can under stand that how our army mangement is living and never thought of saying anything against their boss unless they start recieving pensions.Our history shows that the national spirit of all our bureacrates and generals usually ooze out after getting their retirement benfits.
Hi guys
At the moment I am busy ..
I will answer all you who call me munafiq.. Just hurrying for practical ..
I will answer your questions..
Faisal
@ frrana
Don’t worry for answers. Your answers will be even more twisted. I saw someone named ‘Faisal, UK’ on comments section in Suday Times (UK) and he had written:
‘Though I don’t support Musharraf and I think he should resign BUT it would be foolish to blame him for Benazir’s murder. I think same extremists are trying to target Musharraf who murdered Benazir Bhutto’.
Was that Faisal you? Or was it a co-incidence??
Hello everybody
-First of all it is sad to hear that some of you seem annoyed at me. For optimist, it is very easy for you to call ‘muafiq’ to some body. How can you guess that. I haven’t said mush is good. 17000 £ to me is just too much. I just couldn’t believe that. Neither I am that rich to go to Big hotels (and being a student you are always poor) nor I know how big there prices are. I just checked on Dorchester website to see whether it was true, first page page I scrolled says 600 £ so i just take that causually. I didn’t go that deep to dig out and or call dorcester to confirm.
Besides all That you say I am supporting musharraf. Two facts make it very clear that I stand for democracy and independent judiciary.
- I am son of Judge who is standing by the lawyers and fight agaisnt the 3rd NOv emergency. When Ever we call we have one topic, when judges are being reinstated.
- If not all, I do attend anti musharraf protests. I attended 28 jan protest in front of the downing street.
It makes me fell embarrssing when you are directing your guns at me. So I thought to answer it politely. I am not defending musharraf, just that for me 17000 pounds too big a money to even dream of spending in 1 or 3 nights.
I hope a positive response..
Frrana
@ frrana (Faisal)
Well if you are not pro-Musharraf, welcome to the group. You can guess that even hint of being pro Musharraf can be a dangerous thing. Glad to hear that you are anti-Musharraf. We hope to see many comments against Mush from you in near future.
It seems your father is a hero. What is his name? We would like to show our solidarity with him and call him if you allow us. We have been calling many prominent judges and lawyers. Maybe we have called him already.
Proof that Musharraf is not a Muslim in his own words.
To be a Muslim one has to have faith in certain things and that includes imaan in heaven and hell and the after-life. Musharraf in his book “In the line of fire” says this on page 168.
“Like all those who believe in an afterlife and regard temporal existence as transitory, religious extremists like the Taliban and al Qaeda
believe that death, the “right” death, is of little consequence.”
it clearly shows that he doesnt believe in an afterlife, it also gives us an insight into the criminal’s mind. he doesnt believe that he will ever be held accountable for his deeds, thats why he feels free to kill, rape, loot and plot as he pleases, without any fear of God whatsoever. all his efforts are directed towards one goal: staying in power till death. may Allah destroy him. ameen
in his view those who believe in an afterlife and regard this life as transitory(which is the basis of Islam, Quran and sunnah btw) are religious extremists. shame on this criminal.
whoever say one word in favour of Mush..Mr. Optimist will throw him out from this forum. he is doing what Mush doing with Pakistan!!!
And he will call them with different words like Munafiq blah blah.
so thats why he call himself a Optimist so pls leave him alone.
lol here we go again. another munafiq by the name of geonjeeneydo, dont they get sick of this?
@ geongeeneydo
you are a known Munafiq. Do u need us to give reference to your previous posts?
This is not your house where you can use derogatory language about women. We know it is ok in your house to do that.
@ admin
Could you ban him for bad language against women belonging to political opponents of Altaf Chore. We don’t want his family atmosphere in our discussion boards.
@ admin
i agree with @optimist. please ban these MQM people from this site. they have very filthy tongues, its ok if they want to use it at home, but they need to be civilized if they’re to participate in discussions.
Admin…pls beware of both Optimist and Traffic, they are same person with different IDs. both are munafiq and running NS campaign here both are paid by PML N. thanks
@ Optimistic
I am never with musharraf, at least you believe it now. but you have misunderstood one thing now again. I said
”I am son of Judge who is standing by the lawyers and fight agaisnt the 3rd NOv emergency. When Ever we call we have one topic, when judges are being reinstated”
- My father is Sessions judge which is district judge not high court or supreme court. Currently at Jhang. The judges of higher courts are bound to take oath under PCO. My father was unaffected but indirectly it shattered the basis of the judiciary, so there is support from him side for all the 60 judges. My father is returning officer of NA 78 if I am not wrong…
So I am very closely knitted to judiciary as a family.. Pray for dere reinstatement..
Faisal
Who is geongeeneydo?? Who does he support? In his OWN words.
On Nawaz Sharif he writes:
‘I beleive that if NS and his party win this election (Which is not gonna happen, my opinion) he will just collect all of his remaining money and go back to UK.’
When everyone was blaming Musharraf for BB’s death, he came with a plea not to ‘blame eachother’ (I think he calls Mush ‘eachother’ with love):
“God Save Pakistan. Whatever happened was sad. Please don’t blame each other’.
On my comments against MQM Munafiq:
‘@ optimist: Why are you against people from Karachi?’
AND
‘@ Optimist: You are top poster against MQM. Has MQM done anything to you in London.
When I told him that I am not against people of Karachi and I was talking about MQM’s criminal and Munafiq element, he played down like this because he realised his Munafiqat was getting exposed:
‘I just wanted to say Keep it up!’ He also mentioned that He is a great supporter of NS.
Now this so called supporter of NS has come to defend Mush to the extent that he is using abusive language what his family has taught him. I think if someone’s family teaches them abusive language, then we should make sure that we teach them manners.
@ admin
please listen to geongeendo’s request and check my IP id and clear whether I am using more than one id. Please also check his ID and tell us whether he is using more than one or not.
geonjeeneydo TWO DAYS AGO:
“I was not a big fan of NS but now I must say he changed my views after arrival in
Pakistan, now he is a true leader!
Its bad to hear again that AA is detained by Mush…Long live AA and all Lawyers”
He was calling NS a true leader.
geonjeeneydo TODAY:
‘Admin…pls beware of both Optimist and Traffic, they are same person with different IDs. both are munafiq and running NS campaign here both are paid by PML N. thanks’
@ TO Everyone
@ Admin
Who is Munafiq? You judge for yourself.
God’s curse upon Liars (Quran).
A liar has weak memory (Hadith)
@ Optimist
lol dont take these idiots seriously man. its only these people who need to come on here with different ID’s to support Mush/MQM. i dont blame them though, they dont have a lot of “public support”, so they have to show that Mush has lots of supporters. lol what a loser this guy @geonjeenaydo is. may Allah’s curse be upon the liars. ameen
MQM and PML Q are MUNAFIQ supporting mush for their personal intrests. They don’t care about pakistan.
MQM doesn’t even represent Mahajirs. After 60 years of independence i do not belive any one as Mahajir they are Pakistani.
MQM try to spread ethnicity and make propagandas against others. MQM says they are against establishment but they do support dictators and support for house arrest of 60 most senior judges by supporting MUSH. Shame on you MQMs and Q league. History will never forgive you.
Imran khan has exposed the Altaf reality. imran is a great courageous leader and the only true politician. so what you MQM want to say against imran khan we don’t bother.
Pakistan zindabad
insaf Zindabad
Cheif justice iftikhar Zindabad
Messages from jeonjeenaydo’s IP:
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
whoever say one word in favour of Mush..Mr. Optimist will throw him out from this forum. he is doing what Mush doing with Pakistan!!!
And he will call them with different words like Munafiq blah blah.
so thats why he call himself a Optimist so pls leave him alone.
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
@Optimist
dont take it personally, i was just curious to know why you always includes this MQM in your views now I just wanna tell you that “Keep it up”
I was not a big fan of NS but now I must say he changed my views after arrival in Pakistan, now he is a true leader!
Its bad to hear again that AA is detained by Mush…Long live AA and all Lawyers.
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
@optimist
seems that you are the top most person who is against MQM…just curious to know, have MQM done anything with you in London
I have seen in all of your comments you bring up MQM in your views wether the thread is related or unrelated but never saw any warning from Admin.
but If I out my views reltaed to NS then got blocked.
thanks
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
Nawaz Sharif is a true leader I love this man after he grew his hairs now he got some sense.
cheema | zahidcheema@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
OH sorry I forgot name of some biggest baigairat JI and all Mullah.
cheema | zahidcheema@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
and now you even cant say anything against PPP also coz NS is going to take PPP shoulder for getting KURSI this is called MUNAFIKAT THEY (Including PML Q, PML N, PPP, ANP, IK, MQM AND MUSH) are all doing bad politics just for thier own profit…they change thier colour like girgit.
cheema | zahidcheema@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
@adnan21 and rehan77
yaar bhaag ja yaha sey, is forum mai jo bhi NS ya IK key khilaf kuch kehta hai woh Munafik and MQM supporter hota hai and these guys will get rid off Mush and Altaf by this attitude…they dont have any tolerance!!
just look for any other forum and post your unbiased views.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD, ALL POLITICIAN MURDABAD.
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
@shaan11234
Nothing u can write here in this forum which is in favour of Mush and thier allies even army they will say all bull shits coz Mush was belong to army…if these ppls who say bad words to army tell them to come back to country and do something instead of giving bad words to Army here.
Only NS and IK supporters here, can write thier views here. this site is not open for any other party.
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
God save our country! whatever happened was very sad.
BB was a great leader. but please dont blame each other just give a solution that will help our Pakistan.
geonjeeneydo | siddiquijawad@yahoo.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
I beleive that if NS and his party win this election (Which is not gonna happen, my opinion) he will just collect all of his remaining money and go back to UK.
He is just doing his politics (Pakistan’s typical politics) and just making judiciary as bali ka bakra!! even if he win this election you will see what he wil do with azad adlia in the past…they are just politician…either we support them or not they will just play for thier own benefits…after winning they will forget awam.
(just my thoughts)
innocent | inocent@google.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
Imran Khan and JI are also baigarat coz they are not taking part in election just to give all other politician giving chance to participate in the parliment…in this way they will be out from Pakistan politics for 5 years…so thier political game is going be end now. specially IK who just started his immature politics.
Jawad | jawad@jawad.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
I guess only MQM is the party who is not influenced by any jageerdars, wadiaras and choudry’s but belongs to middle class educated ppl of Pakistan.
see thier election plan…how organised this party is…
All other politicians are corrupted.
What happened with IK’s case against Altaf? I am waiting to hear any results.
Jawad | mjawadsiddiqui@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
Congrats!!
Just have one question…If you say your site supports “freedom of expression” but why you guys block my comments if I support MQM views?
Thanks
Jawad | mjawadsiddiqui@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
Whatever you talking is the past, I just came back from khi and have discussed with so many ppl of khi…these ppls are tired of NS, BB and mush also just want to get rid of these pls who are making fun of Pakistan around the world.
It make me embrassed here when gora ask me different kinds of questions abt BB, NS even in Toronto the immigration officer asked me when he saw that I am coming from khi…you know what he asked me…he asked what do u think who will win the election NS or Butto?
I said no one, and he made a little smile.
and I guess IK doesn want to boycott election and let NS out of the game whatever he did in his 2 times PM is not forgiven!
Jawad | mjawadsiddiqui@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
@asif
seems that u also belong to wadaira or jaageer dar brothery!!! go and see khi and see 80% ppl are poor and 35% ppl come from different provinces just for work and they are also poor.
Go and see and ask them what MQM is doing for them…I am not supporting MQM and I live in Canada but I just came from khi after 2 months visit.
Jawad | mjawadsiddiqui@hotmail.com | IP: 99.230.211.117
forget the past, only MQM bring changes into Pkaitsan politics! if you ask anyone in khi even punjabi, pathan and sindhi they all like MQM because of thier work for poor ppl of Sindh.
They will get mandate in this election again just bcz of thier work not because of fake votes go to streets of SINDH specially khi and you will find how they love MQM…just face the fact and except it!!
Thanks
I think I should give myself an Award for recognising Munafig Mush/MQM supporter.
Mr geonjeeneydo should be ashamed of himself. Such people just look at themselves critically. I mean they should stop supporting a Party which cannot be defended without lying and cheating.
Someone asked Holy Prophet that he had many sins and only want to leave one. Prophet asked him to leave lying.
Truth shall set you free (Bible).
hhahahahhahahaaha OMG that string of posts by the MQM munafiq was so funny. admin i think you should really ban that IP address. this hypocrite has got no life, he needs to get a life, or just kill himself. is it possible to check through the IP adress where this munafiq posts those lies from? lmao the funniest part is when he writes comments like these:
“coz NS is going to take PPP shoulder for getting KURSI this is called MUNAFIKAT”
“they change thier colour like girgit.”
man people like these are the scum of the earth, just like their masters mushi and altaf baji. may Allah curse them.
Musharraf is an Indian agent who destroyed balance of power between India and Pakistan (that was there after nuclear blasts) by starting Kargil adventure (Gen Hamid Gull and Gen Chishti)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2008/02/080205_ex_servicemen_mush_ra.shtml
@ admin
I think you should not block him for a few more days. I would like to see what he says now. Anyways we will be in touch with him through email, NOT.
There have been many interesting opinions / views by various visitors to this column, who seem to be well informed about details of charges for one-night stay in a London hotel by a ‘ Paki ‘ V V I P ?
Just out of curiosity , may I ask,( if any gentleman may enlighten us, here, ) as to following, ( in case one can find out from ones friends in London ) : -
1. Why a only a PENTHOUSE is booked for a V V I P ? As per the dictionary meaning, it is, ‘ an appt located on top floors of a building. ‘
2. Friends tell me that it has a swiming pool a beauty & massage parlour,
private cinema, & what-not, with many ‘ trappings, ‘ FIT only for an Arabian prince?
3. In what activities our V VIPs NEED TO ‘ engage ‘ themselves, so as to require
a ‘ room at the top.?
4. Why cannot Pakistani V VIPs, travel ‘ light ‘ with one or two assistants, like Mahtir Mohammed, ex- PM of Malaysia ?
Your valuable comments please ? THANKS to all in advance.
P.S. Admin Pk.Politics is also ALSO requested / invited to plz contribute to these questions.
i wish tyrant did waste such money. instead he could have save that money; could have build a town in pakistan for kashmiri womens. he could have bring kashmiri womens from that jungle to pakistan.
It is very sad to see the plunder of Pakistan. Even more sad is the reality that those who support Mus have no shame. They just defend murderers and dictators and the logic they give is that our ‘lover’ is better!
What these people need to do is to join us in condemnation. A unanimous condemnation can change attitudes and in future rulers will be more careful because they would know what kind of publicity such act will bring.
Munafaqat will take Mush/MQM/Q league supporters no where. geonjeeneydo has been EXPOSED, I did expose GuyFawkes too. There are many who come here and claim ‘national security’ to divert our attention, forgetting that Mush is the only person who is a biggest threat to the unity of Pakistan.
Well to confirm the news, i contacted Rauf Klassra who wrote the column in Jang and he replied as below:
dear adeel.
first many thanks for your email.
Whenever, any journalist writes about a top gun like President or prime minister in his news or column, he or she has to be 100 confirmed about such kind of things as one I mentioned in my column.
Otherwise, we can face a lot of legal and personal difficulties. The name of hotel where Musharraf spent four nights in London is Dorchester. The room where he stayed was Royal suite whose rent is 16500 pounds per night. Do one thing-either visit the website of the hotel “thedorchester.com” or ask any friend in London to check the rates. Or pick up your phone and dialled 0044-2076298888 to know the rent of Royal suite ( its hotel phone number in London). I had written the amount of the one night rent after cofirming from the concerned hotel desk.
Rgds
rauf klasra
mush ma**r c***d is fighting for his survival.he knows what is gonna happen to him and his family,the moment he steps down’he is got one way ticket only?
badmaash musharraf ke baare mein mashhoor hai “bas ek botal aur ek aurat ka sawaal hai” . everyone knows he’s a badkaar sharaabi. So far whatever he has done is anti-islam so it might be true that he’s not a muslim.
He loves indian culture . He ’s a great fan of mujras.He regularly visits farm houses of where pimps arrange ayaashi ka samaan for him. no wonder our television channels show dances and zina so openly now. he’s destroying our culture, our youth, and our country.
musharraf mqm ka tatoo hai
lol at all of you hypocrites!!
did any of you see that article that broke down Benazir Bhutto’s personal assets? She has become a BILLIONAIRE with the pakistani money.
you guys are crying over a hotel stay? you all are pathetic.
can someone even confirm this story? what hotel costs 17k pounds per night?
just checked the room rate and its 1700 per night NOT 17000.
you guys are terrible.
@ insider
although this has already been posted as comment above, but just for your information again, so u can recheck that rate is 17000 ( 17 THOUSAND)
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/article2320293.ece
£17,625
Royal Penthouse The Dorchester, London
Few people except heads of state know about the Royal Penthouse. The Dorchester has a Howard Hughes-style shyness of publicity about the four-bedroom duplex – formerly the Sultan of Brunei’s London pad.
Occupying the eighth and ninth floors above Park Lane, it’s decorated in empire and classical 18th-century style, with a scenic trompe l’oeil and a master bathroom of 24-carat gold plate and black marble. It has two dining rooms, two drawing rooms, a hairdressing room and a cinema. The vast terrace overlooks Hyde Park and Mayfair – though, if you’re staying here, you probably own chunks of that already.
As in the other suites, exotic materials are an obsession: rare marbles, Italian drapes and a New Zealand wool carpet with more than twice the normal number of tufts and a design picked out in 22-carat gold threads. The sultan would surely approve.
020 7629 8888, http://www.thedorchester.com
yeh idiot (MUSH) OOkaaat se bahir ho gaya hai
Bloody retarded general. What is his qualification? What was his lifestyle before joining PAK ARMY. He should be hanged till death.
If you guys are wondering that how a room can be so expensive then here is the proof, web link of the following information is at the end:
“£17,625
Royal Penthouse The Dorchester, London
Few people except heads of state know about the Royal Penthouse. The Dorchester has a Howard Hughes-style shyness of publicity about the four-bedroom duplex – formerly the Sultan of Brunei’s London pad.
Occupying the eighth and ninth floors above Park Lane, it’s decorated in empire and classical 18th-century style, with a scenic trompe l’oeil and a master bathroom of 24-carat gold plate and black marble. It has two dining rooms, two drawing rooms, a hairdressing room and a cinema. The vast terrace overlooks Hyde Park and Mayfair – though, if you’re staying here, you probably own chunks of that already.
As in the other suites, exotic materials are an obsession: rare marbles, Italian drapes and a New Zealand wool carpet with more than twice the normal number of tufts and a design picked out in 22-carat gold threads. The sultan would surely approve.”
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/where_to_stay/article2320293.ece