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Farooq sitar said in his speach that in 2013 election the prime minister will be mqm nominated. can i ask are guys thinking that musharaf will last that long or another musharaf will be born to help you achive this goal because with out any help you can not be in this possion where altaf bahi will be able to nominate next prime minister.
another quwestion altaf hussain is out of pakistan for 18 years i don’t think he will ever go back to pakistan question is when he will die will his body be taken back to pakistan or not?
As Musharraf wil be kicked out of power very soon. So, will MQM offer a place to Pervez Muharraf in their party? Considering that Musharraf is Urdu speaking, migrated somewhere near from dehli, an ex commando, a lot of experience of killing Pakistani people during 8 years and an admirer of Altaf Bhai and MQM.
In my humble opinion Muharraf fits completely in a party like MQM, keeping in view his previous achievenets particularly in bloodshed and ge could become a fruitful addition in MQM killing and torturing cell..
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@pk4318
don’t take it to your heart man just face it i think educated peoples do not support peoples like altaf hussain who can not even go back to pakistan because of his history . and do you ever heard his addressing peoples of mqm. i bet you peoples all over the world laugh at him but mqm workers sit down and listen him because they want to go back home at the end of his speach with out getting killed.
so don’t tell me that mqm supporters are educated and if his supporters are educated then i rater be un educated like other pakistanis
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@ Munsif Sindhi
Beyond any shadow of doubt, it is clear that MQM employs fascist tactics. Same is true for IJT & JI and MSF in Punjab. MQM adopted the tactics of IJT and took those to new heights. The only difference is that MQM has taken the whole city as a hostage while IJT is left with Punjab University and few other colleges. MSF is almost a non-entity but still Diyal Singh College and some other colleges in Lahore. All these are criminals which must be dealt with the iron fist of law. I stress iron fist of law i.e, arrest, trial, and punishment.
Dear Raja,
You are right and I agree you and I think if rule of Law n justice prevail in our country,all fascist forces can be controlled.As per a quote that any country (society) can run wid Kufar n shirk but Not with injustice and Zulam.
I have heard that MQM wants to be a national party like the PPP. Can an MQM supporter tell me what their strategy is and how they hope to go about getting seats in Punjab, NWFP and Balochistan?
“I have heard that MQM wants to be a national party like the PPP.”
Before even they learn to type the “N” of word national, they should lift the ban of Imran Khan to come to Karachi.
sic5770:
I am laughing at what you wrote, but you have to understand the point of this forum is for MQM supporters to answer questions not for us to gang up on them.
sorry – this forum = this thread.
why dont these guyz have democracy in their own party?
I have couple of questions when Altaf will come back. People of Karachi would love to see him back.
When MQM will ask government to investigate the killing of Tariq Aseem
I want to know from MQM
1) MQM is with establishment or against establishment? They always scream abt army and establishment being against them but than they were the biggest supporters of dirty Mush’s army raj.
2) Why Altaf is not coming back to Pakistan when his party is in Govt for last 5 years?
3) Who killed Azeem Tariq? Don’t they want to have a free investigation for their founder leader.
4) Who killed Hakim Saeed?
Some questions commonly asked by people, ON May 12
Why did MQM plan a rally on the same day as on the visit of the chief justice?
If MQM stands for democracy why is MQM supporting a dictator, a power usurper, who encoarched the country undemocratically?
Who were the people who were roaming freely on that day with automatic weapons and MQM flags?
Why wasn’t anyone arrested in karachi?
Why wasn’t no credible inquiry committee was established?
Why didn’t the new SHC give a proper verdict regarding this incident?
If MQM-Altaf terms MQM-Haqiqi a violent group and got them arrested, why haven’t things settled down after their arrests?
What do you have to say about the recent MQM rigging videos and a 140% voter turnout in Karachi?
Why is imran khan not allowed in karachi, while BB was allowed to lead a proccession, MQM gathers many people?
Some general questions:-
Why do you consider Pakistan’s creation a blunder?
Why doesn’t your leader come to Pakistan, even though he is an ally of Musharraf?
Where does MQM generate its Monetary sums from?
If you consider youself a middle class movement , you would not mind telling, what does your leader do for a living?
Why are your people launching personal attacks on Imran Khan and NS, while your own leader was divorced?
What in your opinion is an independent judiciary?
Why has MQM been declared a fascist organization by some countries?
On democracy
No party is perfect, but how come Mr. Altaf seems to be a life long chairman or leader like the rest of the parties?
If Altaf Hussain isleading a Pakistani political party, why has he taken British nationality?
He could have remained in UK on assylum as a Pakistani but he voluntarily chose to become a British national and pledged allegiance to Britain.
1. Why has MQM kept Karachi and its inhabitants in a state of fear (under gun-point).
2. Why does MQM rely on terroristic tactics?
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a question for MQM supporters.
is Altaf hussain thinking of comming backany time soon?
- Danish Khawajah
@ JKS
I think i can answer your questions.
1) which party in Pakistan is against establishment, MQM tried its best to go against establishment i exactly don’t remember the date but i guess it was in 1992 when a full fledge army operation was launched at the behest of Nawaz Sharif government. They were able to find out maps of Jinnah pur, torture cells and so forth. Funny isn’t it? Altaf was made to run away by Jam Sadiq Ali, Jam has the authority to allow Altaf leave the country without army permission? So army was invloved in two ways, arresting the “sepratist” of MQM and allowing its leader to flee the country. something fishy here right? MQM always support for uplift of a common man, they became MPA’s, MNA’s. which party in Pakistan has a moral courage to do this. But yes, when you are living in this country where all go by double faces, why would you expect MQM to be different from them. Chaudhry Nisar for PML (N) has long list of relatives in Army, you expect him to go against the Army? In this way all political parties have maternal links with Army, Bureaucracy etc. They are all the same, MQM has realised it after a while cause they know, the present system can not be changed with one party being revolutionary. Do you really think Nawaz wants to ouster Musharraf for his love of democracy and betterment of ordinary citizens of Paksitan. No. Its a personal revenge, plus if you have forgotten how he was during his two tenure as Prime Minister of Pakistan, where corrupt of corrupt Saif ur Rahman was the head of NAB. Its the same old monkeys playing the same trick again. be patient and see it will surely not take long before you know what he is upto. They kept on saying, that we will resign from the assemblies if Musharraf tries to re-elect. but what happened ? they provided him legitimacy by keeping their candidature intact with the assembly and Musharraf got elected again. Neither PPPP nor the PML(N) had the courage to resign from the assembly. Their MNA’s and MPA’s were getting monthly salaries and benefits from the hard earned money of tax payers? is this what you called anti-establishment? So if all are not changing why you expect one party to change for all.
2) Why Altaf is not coming back? I have an answer but probably you will not like this answer.. Army dont want him to come back. Musharraf is not army for your information. He has a right fear that he will be killed ince he land in Pakistan. what has happened to Benazir? she was also told not to comeback but she refused and came back and what happened you know it well. Here you can say that Altaf is coward but that blame is OK for a while.
3 & 4) who killed Liaquat Ali Khan? who killed Shahnawaz Bhutto? in her own sister prime ministership? who killed Benazir Bhutto? who killed Hayat Mohammad Sherpao? there is a long list of martyrs in Pakistan. I feel one should focus on finding facts about all those killings before going after Hakim Saeed and Azeem Tariq. If you able to fin out the killers of above mentioned personalities you will surely have a link to Azim Tariq and Hakim Saeen killers.
is mqm only limited to political hit jobs? if they are open then I have few oppurtunities for them. also I would like to know the rates.
would u like to give any hint about ur terror network structure?
My biggest concern about MQM is:
- The terror activities. 12.th may is a horrible example.
- They claim to be anti-establishment, but in reality they work with them. Just have a look back at their history. They have just finished working with a likeminded party PML-Q (which also believes in gun culture) and a DICTATOR!
- They are heavily involved in “Bhatta business”.
- How do they run their offices in UK?
- They think Karachi is their “Jageer”.
- Pakistani citizens are not allowed to travel to Karachi if MQM don’t like the particular indicidual.
- They believe in the bullet and NOT in the ballot
/Saqib
@Scorpion
In many cases you don’t answer the questions. You do what is the habit of MQM people. You ask counter questions. This is weird. Answer the questions and if you want to ask questions about other parties then do it in some of the other threads. You cannot legitimise MQM actions by referring to wrongdoings in other parties. This is NOT acceptable. Be fair!
/Saqib
@ Saqib
I have given the answers. In this corrupt country, why you want MQM to be a polished star. I believe all are same. some are born thugs and some became or made thugs. I hate targeting certain party and forgeting the sins of old campaigners.
Treat all equally. Everyone has done good or bad in the past. if someone has grown hairs after 8 years, this would not change his standing. he is still the same. The people of Pakistan have very short memory about a Feudal and an Industrialists. why? Just because one of them has changed his slogan to win elections…. I am not emotional unlike rest of Pakistanis brothers and sisters. i have seen how things move in Pakistan, just be patient and you will see what future unfolds.
I heard altaf bhai was a cab driver in chicago before isi brought him back and found mqm. is it true that he was caby?
@londoner007
It depends on the condition in Pakistan. Mir Murtaza Bhutto was murdered in the government of his sister BB. The political demography of Urban Sindh is quite different from rest of Pakistan. As you might have observed that most of constituencies in Pakistan is driven by strong candidate rather than parties due to feudal and tribal system except for the case of Lahore, peshawar and Quetta where you will find educated class of people so people in these cities vote according to situation. Contrary to this, Urban Sindh is not driven by strong candidate rather it is driven by leadership. That is why, supporters of MQM do not allow AH to come Pakistan, yes there are also some fake cases made by establishment but it is not a big deal, if he wants to come he can make a deal with establishment but it is not so. So the only reason to be in London is security. I think in this case, Rabta Committe is quite justified
@ sleepingnation
Please do not make this issue as lingual issue, we are here to discuss MQM.
We have already lost too much on such issues
@Jawad Raja
What do you mean by fascist tactics?
As for as politics in education institution is concerned, every party is supporting it to play their part
MSF
SPSF
JTI
APMSO
@thehustler
MQM manifesto believes in representing middle-class family. The only key to be National party is to get rid of feudal and tribal system. Literacy rate can also be a pivotal point.
If people start to vote not looking at candidate rather looking at manifesto then i think that day is not far MQM will be the national party
@amirkhan
Yes definately, not only Tareeq Azeem but also all the people who has lost their lives in 1992 operation will brought to be justice.
@Scorpion
I agree with that the other parties also commit crimes, though it is far from the level MQM has opted for. Maybe PML-Q can be compared to MQM, but none of the other parties comes anyway nearby MQM in criminal activities. AND You are still defending MQM actions by pointing fingers at other parties. Please don’t use other parties wrongdoings as excuse for criminal activities. Civilised people don’t use such tactics. Bring order in your own house first and then try to bring order in the rest of Pakistan.
/Saqib
My basic disagreement with MQM is their emphasis on being “muhajir” and being victims of discrimination. I do not deny the tragedies or the losses related to partition but having said that, was only the Urdu speaking community subjected to them? Both my parents migrated from from Punjab in Hindustan (Batala and Amritsar) and both were from quite well off families there. Having arrived in Pakistan (on foot, losing relatives and friends on the way to the atrocities) their families could never get anything in claims etc and whatever they managed to become was through shear hard work and personal effort. My point: “mohajirs” were everywhere (even in Punjab which the mafia chief of MQM thinks is the brook of prosperity) so what is so additionally sorrowful about the people in Karachi? I always draw an analogy of MQM with the Jews. Jews use Holocaust as an ultimate weapon for emotional blackmailing of the world. You can’t say Jews are doing atrocities in Palestine as they would start the sorry story of Anne Frank and the victims of Holocaust (Hello…!! Just because you were victimized, is it a justification for victimizing others? And plus have you been the only victims in the world?) The same is true for MQM.
@ Jlughmani
Please review the definition of terrorism and do not apply that definition only from 2002 rather go back in 1990s so you will find your answer
@lughmani
Sorry lughmani
Your name typo – sorry brother
@Aneeza
The fact is that every poor man/woman in Pakistan lives in the fear of being mistreated. It does not matter whether you live in Sind, Balochistan, Punjab, NWFP or elsewhere. As it is now “might is right”.
How can we bring a change to our society? By keeping on using excuses for own shortcomings? Almost all the established parties use such tactics. If you point out a fault they will try to point out ten faults in other parties. They should have a progressive thinking, but unfortunately they are satisfied with satus quo. These parties need a vision they really want to work for!
/Saqib
@ILU90
thanks for ur reply but i would like to say
AH must have done some thing thats why he is not going back and see NS and BB went back with out any fear and BB even lost her life. but i think NS and BB are braver then AH. AH wants to go back when his ring leaders taken controll of pakistan but i am sure AH might need to born again and again to see that day i can’t see that happening in million years
@ Saqib
Its not the matter of bringing order. I dont know whether you live in Karachi or not. Every household in Karachi belonging to any ethinic community have stores of arsenal. They display openly these ammunition during the festivities especially sighting of eid moon, marraiges, child birth and so forth. These weapons are also used on the roads, in colleges and in universities. MQM did not brought the weapons in the game. Karachi is a home to settlers from almost all of the Pakistan.
Initially it was MQM workers who got hit by bullets, either at Sohrab Goth or at the universities by Jamiat terror squad. So naturally the bullets has to be replied by bullets. The other issue you talked about is criminal activity. I wonder what criminal activity you are talking about. If some criminal elements in MQM are invloved in Bhutta Khori they have been dealt accordingly by expulsion from the party etc. The party run on funds. MQM is not invloved in looting and plundering of the nations money which is done by the two elite parties, this public money is used to fill in ones own vault and to finance the party activities. APDM conference in London was not an old event. How and from where it was financed? so one way or another its been going on.
about 12th May, yes i personally condemn it, but Sir, you have seen 12th May, but you forgot the other terrorist activities carried out in 2007 and just yesterday one incident also happened. how many have died in these incidents? Does anyone counted that? our beloved Agencies are behind that for sure.
Lastly, we all dont know what really takes place behind the scenes, but on 12th May all were carrying guns irrespective to which party they belong to.
Karachi is a home to settlers from all part of the country. For sure there are criminal elements in operation who work for money. They can be used by paying the right price. You just cant label all the activities to MQM if they have occured in Karachi…
@londoner007
Right…One can say much about past bad politics about NS and BB, but they definetly have shown bravery. They refused to stay indoor and stay isolated from the public. BB lost her life but refused to stay isolated.
It is not only Don ALtaf who is afraid of the Pakistani public. Also the PML-Q politicians and especially Mush are all afraid of the public. They prefer to keep hiding in their bunkers for a while.
/Saqib
@Scorpion
If MQM are that clean then let there be an independent inquiry into 12.th May 2007 terrorism.
Why did MQM oppose an independent inquiry?
Why did MQM stage a drama on the very same day as the CJ was planned to come to Karachi?
Why ws IK not allowed to travel to Karachi?
/Saqib
@ Aneeza
I am amazed at your knowledge of history and jews but at the same time i am also surprised of your no knowledge of Pakistan especially Karachi. MQM and its followers are effectees of QUOTA system. Where the educated people are deprived of opportunities in Public Sector due to not belonging to certain areas of Pakistan. This Quota system is still intact and religiously followed in all federal and provincial services.
for your information the link below tells you how it was extended for another 20 years by Nawaz Sharif.
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/amendments/TheNews_16thAmendment_28July1999.html
So please before labelling anyone or showing your personal grudges and biasedness against any community, do the research and then enlight your readers.
@ Saqib
Most of your concerns have been answered (becuase you have only these few questions in your pocket like opposition but not a big deal to defend ). So please do not repeat it. I want to just repond on two concerns:
1. About Bhutta system :
People better know that Bhutta was taken by those people who wanted to damage the struggle of MQM for mid-class families and their rights. If you come Karachi then visit the house of Mustafa Kamal, the mayor of financial hub of Pakistan. You will be stunned to witness that how a mayor of such a big city can lead such a simple life. I have seen him by my own eyes on development site in Karachi at 4:00 AM, just want to deliver what his party has promised.
Name the only single minister of MQM from previous cabinet who have been involved in corruption.
You better know! The name of all the political icons whose sons and daughters are getting education overseas (and you also know their financial conditions and tax paying system).
If for the sake of discussion i take your hypothesis that MQM believes in Bhutta culture then
why the ministers of MQM missed this great opportunity of being in government?
why do not they make their own bank balance from the money which have been reserved for development projects?
Why they have put their extra-ordinary effort in earthquake relief operation in Kashmir?
So be realistic
2. Ruling city by gun
My dear brother! a city of more than 15 million population cannot be ruled by gun, it is only possible by commitment and progress. Even the unfortunate turmoil at national level failed to shake the mandate of MQM. Only because of their progress
So you should respect the mandate of MQM
Get the truth otherwise truth will get you!
@ Saqib
Well i am in favor of independent inquiry, but what i have read and saw that it was politically motivated. The effectee judiciary became so active in facts findings of one event and they forgot that history of Pakistan is full of un-explained events and no judiciary ever had the guts to probe in those issues. Even Murtaza Bhutto killing alos had the judicial inquiry but can anyone tell me what were the findings? the key witness was killed, was it done by MQM? So i would say that it was all a politically motivated drama.
Regarding your allegation about Imran Khan, before this give me just one answer, Why all the party leaders including Imran Khan, Qazi, Asfandyar wali khan and others were not available in Karachi to welcome CJ? Was there any reason for them to absent on this historic occassion?
Imran Khan doesn’t have the guts to admit his illegitimate child and he talks of bringing democracy and rule of law in Pakistan. The whole world knows about it and i personally think if he admit that, he would have been pardoned by the people of Pakistan, but surely this require guts which i am afraid he doesn’t possess.
@ Saqib
Imran Khan will be welcomed in Karachi provided he does not ruin the peacful environment of our beloved city.
He wants to drag karachi back in 90s like establishement did by plotting racial conflicts.
If he has something to develop our beloved city or want to meet someone then he is welcomed, Karachi belongs to whole pakistan. But we will resist such element who wants to drag us back just for their political career
@Scorpion & ILU90
This is business as usual. You people are taught to talk about other issues than you are asked about. You have a habit of playing the victims role all the time. Grow up and get out the victims role. Btw, You are not the only victims in Pakistan. Poor people in Punjab, Balochistan, NWFP are treated in the same inhuman way by the establishment. The same establishment you claim is your opponnent, but whenever you get the opportunity you play (foul) with peoples feeling and collaborate with them. You have just been doing it with Mush. You have still NOT answered my questions. What you have done is posing new questions and put forward lame excuses. I am still waiting for valid arguments!
/Saqib
@ Saqib
One can only understand if he is free from ethinic bias.
@ILU90
we have so many questions for you guys infact you only have one answer for every question that we are middle class party bla bla bla
you are afraid of imran khan before you was afraid of jamte islami and then anp and now IK because you guys know if all these get togather you wont be able to win a single seat in karachi and i can see that day very soon inshalla
by the way my brother lives in south africa and he told me that MQM collect bhata in south africa too can you tell me why you do this sin
@Scorpion
I am myself a Punjabi and I don’t have aything against any ethnicity. Nor in Pakistan or anywhere else. I consider law abiding Karachi citizens of all ethnicities as my equals and brothers.
What I am discussing are issues not indviduals or ethnicity. In other words problems within an organisation MQM. It has nothing to do with ethnnicity. I have the same view about some parts of the PML-Q. They use the same tactics and they are Punjabi just like me. So please don’t play the ethnicity card. It is not suitable to play a poor victim all the time.
/Saqib
@@ILU90
you mentioned in one of your reply that why we went to kashmir earth quack area for help so dear answer is to show off that you are doing such a good thing thats why your leader AH came soon after on tv and claim we are the first to send help in kashmir . like he said the other day i am the first who condemd BB murder. give up man AH is a big joker and i can say he need a doctor and you too need to go to the doctor
thank you
@ Saqib
I dont think there is any problem with MQM. Basically, either you dont know the ground realities in Pakistan or you are pretending to shy away from them. The rules of the game are well defined in Pakistan and all political parties make their move accordingly.
I have replied you earnestly but if you didn’t find what you are looking for then obviously there is a difference of opinion and interpretion.
@ londoner007
Thanks dude for making the valuable information known about Jamat, IK, Anp and especially South Africa.
@ londoner007
Helping Kashmiris was a show off? I am sorry to say but please dont go off limits in your personal hate.
MQM means (mutahida qatal movement)
@Scorpion
I know what you saying but also i know what i am saying too i told before that AH repeated and his peoples in karachi too that we are the only peoples who went to help kashmires first we done this we done that it shows that it was to show off. don’t you think NS and PPP or jamat or IK did not do any thing but they never claim we did this we did that .i think abdul sitar iddi done more then every one but no a single word from him its only AH who tried to take all the credit
@Scorpion
In fact you haven’t replied properly yet…I have only seen the same MQM propagada as you people always put forward. I repeat my questions:
- If you people are in favor of independent inquiry why is this not done?
- Why did MQM stage a drama on the very same day as the CJ was planned to come to Karachi?
- Your explanation is NOT accepted about refusal eof entry to IK as there where NO even an indication of ethnicity related visit.
And PLEASE don’t play VICTIM again!!!!!!!!!
/Saqib
Another thing that bothers me a lot is the air time Don Altaf is getting on GEO TV. My question is; does MQM pay for it or do they force GEO to do it?
Or is it because they have planted some MQM members in the organisation of GEO like the socalled “doctor” Amir Liaqat
/Saqib
@ Sunny Sool
Brother, We are here for a Q/A session, what are you doing? It will only start ‘Fuzool’ Comments, plz let’s not spread hatred. If you will start these comments then there will be no MQM supporter left to reply.
Admin has started this to hold a Clean, Educating & Informative debate. Let’s stick to it.
@ Saqib
You are just playing with words , you have same questions (asking again and again). So please read all the comments, you will find your answers, do not try to mislead others
You even consider that GEO is hijacked by MQM, look at your paranoia.
@ Saqib
Thanks, atleast you accepted that MQM is victimized
If MQM-Altaf terms MQM-Haqiqi a violent group and got them arrested, why haven’t things settled down after their arrests?
Most of MQM-haqiqi activists have already joined the MQM after realizing their mistake, some of them have gathered under the platform of JI since they can not simply resist their dna of terrorism, so they are magnitized by JI, a suicidal bomb for peacful Karachi.
What do you have to say about the recent MQM rigging videos and a 140% voter turnout in Karachi?
This fake drama is already proved wrong logically as well as by real fact and figures
Why do you consider Pakistan’s creation a blunder?
First, it is comment given by an individual not represent a party slogan. Second, he has already given the explanation of that in the same talk. You are referring this out of context, first try to get whole story in what context this statement is given. Then review this question do not behave like morons
Where does MQM generate its Monetary sums from?
Like other democratic parties, Monetary is generated through Funds
If you consider youself a middle class movement , you would not mind telling, what does your leader do for a living?
He is a prolific writer and great speaker, so please do not worry about his living. He does not need bank balance or villas, he earns enough to spread his message based on Haq.
Why has MQM been declared a fascist organization by some countries?
Which country has declared, there were just statements posed by some people who has nothing to do with the political system of that country. Those same people has declared that Pakistan is failed state. Pakistan is more dangerous than Iraq. Why do not you own those statements? Are they really realistic?
@ILU90
No that is NOT the case. I said they are PLAYING the victims role. According to me the masses of Pakistan are victimised by those people you have been working/collaborating with (MUSH and PML-Q).
/Saqib
Many of my questions were not answered so, I have to write them again.
Some questions commonly asked by people, ON May 12
Why did MQM plan a rally on the same day as on the visit of the chief justice?
If MQM stands for democracy why is MQM supporting a dictator, a power usurper, who encoarched the country undemocratically?
Who were the people who were roaming freely on that day with automatic weapons and MQM flags?
Why wasn’t anyone arrested in karachi?
Why wasn’t no credible inquiry committee was established?
Why didn’t the new SHC give a proper verdict regarding this incident?
I have done some research on karachi’s history and on which I would ask you a question?
If MQM-Altaf terms MQM-Haqiqi a violent group and got them arrested, why haven’t things settled down after their arrests?
What do you have to say about the recent MQM rigging videos and a 140% voter turnout in Karachi?
Why is imran khan not allowed in karachi, while BB was allowed to lead a proccession, MQM gathers many people?
Some general questions:-
Why do you consider Pakistan’s creation a blunder?
Why doesn’t your leader come to Pakistan, even though he is an ally of Musharraf?
Where does MQM generate its Monetary sums from?
If you consider youself a middle class movement , you would not mind telling, what does your leader do for a living?
Why are your people launching personal attacks on Imran Khan and NS, while your own leader was divorced?
What in your opinion is an independent judiciary?
Why has MQM been declared a fascist organization by some countries?
On democracy
No party is perfect, but how come Mr. Altaf seems to be a life long chairman or leader like the rest of the parties?
mqm terrorism is reality. question is how we dealt with these terrorist.
if mush bomb innocent people in wazirestan ,swat and lal masjid then y not culminate these real terrorist?
@ Saqib
1) I dont consider judiciary led by Iftikhar Chaudhry as independent . It is led by judges who were already under PCO Oath. So any inquiry by the PCO judges will never be independent and free. There were judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui who opted not to take oath under PCO and resigned from the post and this has happened in the past on number of occassions.
2) I believe it was not a drama, before the CJ arrival much hype was created that MQM is no more the political force in Karachi. It was a show to remind the flop parties that they can not gain popularity riding on CJ shoulders. These parties never had a vote Bank, for the last 5 years they were not able to move or bring on road a single person for agitation and were only looking for an issue. CJ has provided them this issue. I think if we minus the politcal parties from CJ rallies then there is noone to go behind CJ. In order to remind political parties of their proper place MQM has to stage or hold a rally showing that they still hold power in karachi.
3) Imran Khan is the racist and he has special hatred against the people of Karachi. This is a well know and established fact among the people of Karachi. If he denied the entry then it was and still is a wise move.
@lughmani
Thanks your advise is noted.
Questions for MQM:
- Why do any ruling party need to hold daily or weekly rallies or big meetings? Show me example of any democratic party in the entire world.
- Why do Altaf need to address his party so frequently?
- What is the outcome of these meetings?
- Who bears the financial expenses of these meetings?
- Why many areas of Karachi are out of electricity but every MQM meeting is lit with thousands of lights? Do you think this wastage of electricity is justified?
Please compare your actions with actions of any other civilized country in the world and tell me what you say about them.
@ Scorpio
“Imran Khan is the racist and he has special hatred against the people of Karachi. This is a well know and established fact among the people of Karachi. If he denied the entry then it was and still is a wise move.”
Altaf hussain is the biggest terrorist and harbours special hatred against the people of punjab. This is a well known fact and established amongst the people pf punjab.
If we are living on perceptions, our future is not worth mentioning.
I am have asked quite a lot of questions in proper format again, and I dont know why they are withheld for moderation. If anyone wants to answer them He/She can refer back to the top its the 16th comment in descending order.
@Scorpion
1) Then let retired judges make the inquiry. They could be chosen by mutual understanding. There are honest retired judges who could have done that.My opnion is that MQM will never accept any result from an independent inquiry.
2)Aha….MQM wanted to show who was the boss in the town? These are true colors. At least you had the guts to admit that it HAD to be done on the same day as the CJP would come to KHI……MQM gangsters
3) Your claim about IK is ridicolous. Do you know the definition of a racist?
/Saqib
@ Rasheed
All you questions except the last one, is the true essence of democratic institution. You are representing people, so you should be keep in contact with them and keep them aware about your progress and your issues. That is one of the reason why MQM enjoy such a huge mandate. Your questions are also your answers as they lead to the definition of democracy.
Yeah, Karachi is badly effected by electricity but this is a federal issue. MQM has submitted lot of proposals related to this issue in Islamabad. I hope soon , Karachi will get rid of this issue. KESC has been privitized, if it is so as you are saying then i think no one will be interested to give a bid. There are funds allocated for such events
MQM is not popler how they win election one should see youtube election ranging ………..
Some more Questions for MQM … I will keep repeating them until I get an answer:
- Why did MQM support an Army dictator for 8 years? Will MQM continue supporting Army dictators in future?
- Will MQM partner with any political party that has opposite ideology that of MQM? If big parties have lots of landlords and feudal lords, then would MQM make alliances with them and make them stronger?
- What is MQM stance of Lal-Masjid?
- Would MQM support more unconstitutional activities like 3rd November?
- Would MQM support closure of media channels again?
- Would MQM support kicking out 60% judiciary again regardless if it was PCO or not?
- Would MQM support manhandling and arrest of Chief Justice and his children regardless of his earlier PCO oath or not?
- Does MQM fully support Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin?
- Does MQM also support the stance of Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin that Justice Iftikhar Pre-3rd November Judiciary must be restored?
Thanks and I will keep on repeating my questions until I get an answer. I want direct answer, not blaming on some other parties or external entities.
@ Zenith
we have responded you questions, most of them are already answered.
Our answers are also ” awaiting moderation”
@ Admin
What is ” awaiting moderation” ?
they did a lot for karachi this time a lot and thats what i care bout all this killing bullshit all parties do that they cant survive widout guns from JUI TO PPP and u al no bout choudhry brothers weapons even the hero u idolised had weapons in his party ZA Bhutto` so stop dis shit bout mqm is a killing party all parties in pakistan r but queston is do they deliver? means justify the end!
@ILU90,
I am not going to leave you so easily.
You are saying that you are democratic party and need to touch with people so often.
- I need example of any other party in the entire world. Are you the only democratic party in the world?
- Why do you need update about your progress after 2 days? Don’t you think this time could be more utilized in development rather than 3-4 hours of meetings?
- Why MQM has electricity while other areas of Karachi are in darkness?
- Why did MQM oppose Kalabagh which could have solved electricity crisis? What has MQM government done in last 5 years of government to add more electricity?
Awaiting your direct answer, don’t twist them and please be direct and point by point, not in summary.
@rasheed
I am quite sure you will not get any satisfactory ANSWERS. On contrary you will get counter questions about all the other evils in society. Every MQM supporter does it this way and ridicolously claim to be speaking on behalf of all the Urdu speaking community in KHI.
/Saqib
@rasheed
There is no need to put an example , if you are doing something right. Why you need that ? You better study what is democracy?
I would rather say MQM should set some media policy to aware people on daily bases. People are our mandate
If you want any example then in Pakistan there is only MQM, rest of other parties are full of feudals. Why will feudals want to aware people?
Please follow the instructions set by Admin. Do not repeat question
@ILU90,
I will keep on repeating questions unless you give me straight direct answer.
1- I want answer in context to politics. Are you saying MQM is totally different that any other political party of the ENTIRE WORLD just because MQM people have given them mandate?
2- I want to know some list of “progress” that you told people in last 4-5- meetings.
Some more questions that I did not get answers of:
3- What is the outcome of these meetings?
4- Who bears the financial expenses of these meetings?
5- Why many areas of Karachi are out of electricity but every MQM meeting is lit with thousands of lights? Do you think this wastage of electricity is justified?
Please answer your questions line by line for items 1 2 3 4 and 5.
Thanks
I am still waiting for the answers to my questions. My typed-again questions have come out of moderation. It is now the 17th comment from the bottom.
thanks.
@ Zenith
I think there is some problem, our response is still at “waiting moderation”
Thanks
Currently the moderation queue is empty. Please repost any replies again.
Thanks, Admin
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I think the MQM “victims” lost all interest to give a clear answer. I never expected any relevant reply. They will rather speak about mistakes committed by other parties and use these mistakes as excuses for their own criminal activities.
/Saqib
Why isnt any1 answering in favour of MQM.In contrast to all other parties listed in this forum MQM seems to be the most disgraced party. I wonder why??????
@Scorpion
Thanks for your answers.
1) I agree with your first answer where you have admitted that MQM is with establishment as their agenda is to remain in power at all costs. I agree with you that most of the other parties are in the same boat. Right now NS and IK are the one that are showing courage and I will be the first one to critisize them if they will stop supporting CJ or start supporting army rule.
2) I agree with second answer where you have admitted that Altaf is a coward and that is why he is not coming back. You have said that he is scared from army but I think he is more sacred from the opposite wing of MQM and the families of innocent victims in KHI.
3) Your answers to question 3 & 4 are not convincing because Azeem Tariq was a founder member of MQM and MQM should have been most interested to investigate the murder case. If we don’t know the murderers of Liaqat Ali Khan than it does not mean than we should stop investgation process for ever.
Believe me or not we love KHi as any other part of Pakistan and we really want to see KHI controlled by some educated and sincere leadership and not by a bunch of criminals. I also agree that we should also condemn other parties like PML-Q/ JUI for supporting Mushharaf and we should have a close eye on PPP and PML-N for future.
Pakistan Zindabad.
Scorpion,
You are a innocent Pakistani, and are also a victim of MQM propaganda.
MQM is not the mother of all problem but do not try to defend its policies by giving example of wrong doing of others.
This is our city our province and our country. No body is going any where and we have to live together.
The words you use “setlers” “native” shows how deep the problem is. Be positive do not call our country current it is few people. And why should we join them why not oppose them
Altaf Husain is enjoying on poor people money.
Just tell me 12 May what MQM did what is the justification for that. This Musharaf will go sooner or later Altaf is not coming back. How MQM will be playing anti-army card or anti punjab card now after having working with currupt chodries from gujrat and Mush.
@ Rasheed Well I am not a MQM worker but I do favour MQM …
- Why did MQM support an Army dictator for 8 years? Will MQM continue supporting Army dictators in future?
Ans. Well MQM was the only party who boycott local election under Musharraf even when Imran was supporting Musharraf. MQM instance was clear on this policy they ask every party to sign that they will never sit in the lap of a dictator as Nawaz Sharif was also a big supporter of dictator moreover they have also asked political parties not to give seat to feudals or Wadaira. You makesure no more dictator and feudals anymore MQM will never support anyone, otherwise don’t ask this dullard question again.
- Will MQM partner with any political party that has opposite ideology that of MQM? If big parties have lots of landlords and feudal lords, then would MQM make alliances with them and make them stronger?
Ans. It’s a very good question and they should stuck with their own ideology, U people never ask question from PPP and PML-Q to stop giving tickets to the above guys as MQM has never given tickets to any landlords or feudals. I think MQM has realized if big political parties supports feudals only they should not combat with these political parties and should work together for Pakistan and keep on promoting educated and hardworking people within their party.
- What is MQM stance of Lal-Masjid?
They were very clear no one should challenge government rid, but u have seen Altaf’s speech during the operation of Lal MAsjid and they urged officials not to take action as still many innocent people were inside and asked to give them free path.
- Would MQM support more unconstitutional activities like 3rd November?
No never but depends on the situation as well.
- Would MQM support closure of media channels again?
I think every one knows the answers.
- Would MQM support kicking out 60% judiciary again regardless if it was PCO or not?
Kicked out judge also took oath on PCO, so this is a lame question, but courts should be free from external pressure and interference, well this topics needs more discussion.
- Would MQM support manhandling and arrest of Chief Justice and his children regardless of his earlier PCO oath or not?
No, he was a CJ but i think political parties are playing their politics on the shoulder of CJ.
- Does MQM fully support Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin?
NON- PCO judges are always credible but it doesn’t mean they took PCO once and then they reject it..
- Does MQM also support the stance of Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin that Justice Iftikhar Pre-3rd November Judiciary must be restored?
But how will u guaranteed that the problems will be solved, the problem for judiciary should be solved in a better way restoration of these judges will not guaranteed a proper solution, this question should be discussed as a separate topic, well did they took oath b4 or not…
Why is Altaf a british national now when he could have stayed in UK on Pakistani passport?
How appropriate is it for a British national who has taken oath of allegiance to UK to be heading a so called political party in Pakistan?
nam said:Ans. Well MQM was the only party who boycott local election under Musharraf even when Imran was supporting Musharraf. MQM instance was clear on this policy they ask every party to sign that they will never sit in the lap of a dictator as Nawaz Sharif was also a big supporter of dictator moreover they have also asked political parties not to give seat to feudals or Wadaira. You makesure no more dictator and feudals anymore MQM will never support anyone, otherwise don’t ask this dullard question again.
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MQM has always been against dictators and feudals (although it was created by a military dictator) and it was the only party that boycotted the local election that was to be held under Musharraf. But then a miracle happened and god filled hearts of the “petite bourgeois” living in the ghettos of Karachi with love for Musharraf. At the end it was the only pyarty that jumped in the lap of the same military dictator, formed a collation governmetn with PMLQ that was purely a party of landlords, played a crucial role in all the sheganigans of Musharraf and went every length to make sure that Musharraf keep in power. What about PMLN? PLM-N’s vote bank is largely limited to Central and Northern Punjab which is not feudal. But now the changes are happening at a much faster pace throughout Pakistand, and rural Pakistan is not an exception.
http://www.newstatesman.com/200802210026
William Dalrymple
Yet this is now clearly beginning to change, and this change has been give huge impetus by the national polls. The election results show that the old stranglehold on Pakistani politics that used to reduce national polls to a kind of elective feudalism may finally be beginning to break down. In Jhang district of the rural Punjab, for example, as many as ten of the 11 winning candidates are from middle-class backgrounds: sons of revenue officers, senior policemen, functionaries in the civil bureaucracy and so on, rather than the usual zamindars.
The Punjab is the richest and most developed part of rural Pakistan; but even in backward Sindh there are signs of change, too. Khairpur, on the banks of the Indus, is the heartland of exactly the sort of unreformed local landowners who epitomise the stereotype painted by metropolitan Pakistani sophisticates when they roll their eyes and talk about “the feudals”. Yet even here, members of the local middle class have just stood successfully for election against the local zamindars.
Nafisa Shah is the impeccably middle-class daughter of a local lawyer promoted in the PPP by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in the 1970s; she is currently at Oxford doing a PhD in honour killings. She was standing in the same constituency as Sadruddin Shah, who is often held up as the epitome of feudal excess, and who went electioneering with five pick-up trucks full of his private militia, armed with pump-action shotguns.
As you drive along the bypass his face, complete with Dick Dastardly moustache, sneers down from hoardings placed every 50 yards along the road. In the past week the local press had been full of stories of his men shooting at crowds of little boys shouting pro-Benazir slogans. Shah was standing, as usual, for no fewer than three different seats; this time, however, to the amazement of locals, the PhD student and her PPP allies have all but wiped out Shah and his fellow candidates of the PML-Functional, so that Shah himself won only in his own home town.
Even the most benign feudal lords suffered astonishing reverses. Mian Najibuddin Owaisi was not just the popular feudal lord of the village of Khanqah Sharif in the southern Punjab, he was also the sajjada nasheen, the descendant of the local Sufi saint, and so regarded as a holy man as well as the local landowner. But recently Najibuddin made the ill-timed switch from supporting Nawaz Sharif’s PML-N to the pro-Musharraf Q-league. Talking to the people in the bazaar before the election, his followers announced that they did not like Musharraf, but they would still vote for their landlord:
“Prices are rising,” said Haji Sadiq, the cloth salesman, sitting amid bolts of textiles. “There is less and less electricity and gas.”
“And what was done to Benazir was quite wrong,” agreed his friend Salman.
“But Najib Sahib is our protector,” said the haji. “Whatever party he chooses, we will vote for him. Even the Q-league.”
“Why?” I asked.
“Because with him in power we have someone we can call if we are in trouble with the police, or need someone to speak to the adminstration,” he said.
“When we really need him he looks after us.”
“We vote according to local issues only. Who cares about parties?”
Because of Najibuddin’s personal popularity, his vote stood up better than many other pro-Musharraf feudals and he polled 38,000 votes. But he still lost, to an independent candidate from a non-feudal, middle-class background named Amir Waran, who took 59,000 votes and ousted the Owaisi family from control of the constituency for the first time since they entered politics in the elections of 1975.
@ Bhutto
All the questions have been answered, Yeah there are some people who are just repeating same questions becuase they just want to hear answers accroding to their own perception, we have no remedy for them. We have tried our best to answer all the questions
If you have any question , then you are welcome…
Thanks
@ILU90
It is very unfortunate that you are NOT willing to give a direct answer to relevant questions. Do you want them repeated again and again?
Please give clear answers and don’t play the usual victims role!
/Saqib
@ asfand1 , just point out one guy in MQM who is from feudal or landlord family. Please don’t post any lame posts, the middle class that u post from rural Punjab, are they still poor or from middle class family. Only the powerful people get tickets, yeah these guys are not son of feudals but may be the son of corrupted senior police officers, beurocrate etc. Yeah there are good people as well from middle class i totally agree with U but how many in terms of % in other parties.
@nam,
Thanks for detailed reply and giving every answer between YES and NO.
I would translate your answers as follows:
- Why did MQM support an Army dictator for 8 years? Will MQM continue supporting Army dictators in future?
Bla bla bla … Nawaz Sharif bla bla bla .. Imran Khan bla bla bla .. Feudal bla bla bla ..
Answer: We will support Dictators whenever we get chance!!!
- Will MQM partner with any political party that has opposite ideology that of MQM? If big parties have lots of landlords and feudal lords, then would MQM make alliances with them and make them stronger?
PPP feudals bla bla bla … PMLQ feudals bla bla bla ..
Answer: WE will make alliance with all parties that support Feudals
- What is MQM stance on Lal-Masjid?
I saw to many protests and speeches against Lal-Masjid guys by MQM. Why I did not see any single statement against “MUSHARRAF” when he was murdering children?”
Answer: We did good and we will continue same
- Would MQM support more unconstitutional activities like 3rd November?
Depends !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Answer: oh YES oh YES oh YES
- Would MQM support closure of media channels again?
Everyone knows bla bla bla …
Answer: Everyone knows that MQM supported it and will again support it
- Would MQM support kicking out 60% judiciary again regardless if it was PCO or not?
Question is LAME bla bla bla bla bla
Answer: Oh definitely YES YES YES!!!!
- Would MQM support manhandling and arrest of Chief Justice and his children regardless of his earlier PCO oath or not?
No … “BUT” political parties bla bla bla ???? Can MQM ever say YES or NO without BUT????
Answer: Yes we will support arrest of CJ and Children if bla bla bla ….
- Does MQM fully support Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin?
Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla
No Answer
- Does MQM also support the stance of Non-PCO Judges like Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui and Justice Wajihuddin that Justice Iftikhar Pre-3rd November Judiciary must be restored?
BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT ….. bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla ….
Answer: NO, MQM don’t support EVEN clean Honorable Judges like Saeeduzzaman and Wajiuddin.
Thanks for the answer .. they were exactly 100% as I was expecting from any MQM Munafiq supporter.
@rasheed: OUCH! Good Fisking Bro! You demolished the poor guy!
@ nam: just point out one guy in MQM who is from feudal or landlord family. Please don’t post any lame posts, the middle class that u post from rural Punjab, are they still poor or from middle class family. Only the powerful people get tickets, yeah these guys are not son of feudals but may be the son of corrupted senior police officers, beurocrate etc. Yeah there are good people as well from middle class i totally agree with U but how many in terms of % in other parties.
What is your problem brother? Did I say anywhere in my post that MQM is a party of feudal landlords? And instead of asking silly questions please read the whole article. You will get your the answers to your questions if you pay attention.
Iam still waiting for the answers. Already posted twice? Someone said that their response was in moderation, it hasn’t come out since. Even one line answers are enough for those questions. I am not rewriting them, as they take some time to come out of moderation.
thanks.
MQM is only karachi based party. Karachi does not have any agriculture, so by definition MQM can not have a feudal lord. However MQM by supporting Chaudhrys and other Feudal is accomplice in perpatuation of feudal structure in Pakistan. Military dictatorship is a form of feudal system where one man make decision for the whole society. The argument that we dont deserve democracy because of the feudal system is used by our colonial rulers, as we dont deserve freedom because we are not westernised or educated enough. Dictatorship breads feudalism as it is in dictators best interest where he deals with only one person and not the whole community. That is what Brits had done in India all the nawabs and sardars were basically a product of colnial rule. MQM is designed as the fascist party of Italy was it does not have any set political agenda, it rather revolves around a personality.
@ rasheed
Superb post !!!!
I don’t know why my posts on this thread are not being displayed.
@Fahim23,
Because you are not posting anything here.
Admin
From the MQM supporters here, I would like to ask why did Altaf hussain not want the revival of judiciary (for the reason that they were not given the justice when they were the victims in 1990s), but supported BB (the same lady who ordered killing of many MQM activists), when she come back last year?
Can it be true that he wanted to be her ally for the higher purpose but rejected the judiciary for victim’s reason? Can you explain the contradiction?
Sorry I didnt realise that this question has been asked before. Was just wondering where was the answer!
@rasheed great job… you have outstanding ethics to talk on issues…
keep it up man we need more people like you.
cheers!!!
As I am not a MQM worker or representative so please don’t take my answers as MQM answers, secondly I have seen some bullshit comments and appraised by someone as well so shows the hatred and enmity in their mind. Well cghah wht do u mean by revival, man it has to be done from grass root, try to understand my point I can’t get one thing when CJ Sajjad Ali was sacked it was the victory of judiaciary and now if CJ Iftikhar is sacked it ‘s against judiciary. The same CJ declined Javaid Hashmi application and took oaths on PCO, it cannot be resolved by only bringing CJ back but it really needs some good measures, as I’ve told u that i can write full page but it’s not a topic related to the discussion ….
@nam,
Again some out of context bulls**t against Justice Iftikhar. You probably think people here are like zombies who fall for daily speeches of Altaf Hussain?
Almost everyone here is very educated and well informed, and does not fall for typical MQM propaganda.
It is a useless exercise for zombies, but here is quick comparison for those who think that they can impress others by comparing Shah and Iftikhar:
CJ Shah:
- CJ Sajjad Ali Shah was removed from “Chief Justice” position by 11 senior judges of Supreme Court. He was still a normal judge of supreme court afterwards but he resigned.
- Shah thought he was above the Parliament and he started hearing Leghari’s petition against the removal of 58-2B that was done by entire parliament including both PMLN PPP.
- A day before SC attack, 11 member bench gave verdict that Sajjad Ali Shah cannot hear petition against the constitutional changes done by parliament, but he continued hearing it.
- As per Justice Saeeduzzam Siddiqui, Shah was warned as he was always found having meetings and dinners with politicians.
Now for CJ Iftikhar:
- He was removed by the Army Chief/President and was restored by 13 member SC bench after finding that he was illegally removed
- CJ Iftikhar was the FIRST CJ that confronted Musharraf led security chiefs who were shamelessly kidnapping, disappearing and selling hundreds of Pakistanis. He also cleared backlog of thousands of pending cases in SC and stopped the RS. 200 Billion Steel Mill corruption that Musharraf regime had almost got their hands on.
- Lets say that firing of 60% judiciary on 3rd November 2007 was justified by Army Chief because they had already taken PCO oath once. How would you rate your Musharraf when he fired 17 judges in 2000 who did not want to switch their oaths from 1973 constitution to PCO?
- CJ Iftikhar can’t be good because he took PCO oath once and refused second time? Well Chief Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui refused to take oath under PCO when Musharraf took over but Siddiqui already had taken PCO oath during Zia time and Siddiqui is indisputably considered as a model judge. Tomorrow MQM supporters will say that Quaid-e-Azam cannot be good since he was in Ghandhi led Congress before he made or joined Muslim League.
Finally I am sure you can write not a complete page, but a complete book full of meaningless bla bla bla bla against anything just like your initial detailed reply. Please keep it up and I will continue exposing your bla bla bla.
MQM Election Rigging Videos:-
http://www.naitazi.com/2008/02/24/mqm-election-rigging-videos-works-without-youtube
thats why mqm is said to be a terrorist organization. the truth is speaking itself.
Whos says MQM is not a feudal party? .. MQM is the biggest Feudal Party in Pakistan. They have one Peer Altaf bhai. They control the largest Fiefdom in Pakistan (Karachi). They collect forced bhatta from their Fiefdom. If any citizen of its Fiefdom gets out of line the coward terrorists of Pir sahib are sent to teach them a lesson or kill them. They black mail, extort money, terrorize and kill anyone who makes a stand against them. They ally themselves with the other fedual party (Qaaf league) and dictators in Pakistan. MQM is the true definition of a feudal party based on ethnic prejudice, elitism and cult personality worship.
@Rasheed
Great work….Hats of for your sincerity and your honest effort to describe the real happenings.
I am totally at loss how these MQM wannabe debaters can sleep with such a bad conscience. They keep on putting up side down regarding their terrorist activities. It really must be very hard to tell lies all the time
Thanks a lot Rasheed!
/Saqib
@ MQM supporters (and nam)
I don’t think your arguments answer my question. My question was regarding the policy of Altaf Hussain, which contradicts in many ways. If he is ready to accommodate PPP in KHI, than why is he not ready to accept the judiciary back in power, given he has the same reason to dislike both? I would appreciate if you clarify.
**The lawyer’s movement does not represent CJ; it’s the rule of law that it represents. Hand picking of judges and god like powers to politicians is what we want to eliminate. If you don’t agree, than I have not much to debate on**
MQM is doing pathetic politics after the elections. Some times it says that ts mandate must be respected and given sare in govt and then it says that it does not want to become part of govt. If they beleive in supremacy of parliment then why they will not accept restoration of judicary when majority of MNAs do it.
Is MQM on a suiside mission to protect MUSH?
@Saqib
When you frequently lie, it becomes truth for you. This is the severest punishment of telling lies a one can have, that s/he deceives him/herself.
Same is the case with MQM, they lie, lie and lie and forget that they are lying.
@Admin
Yea, sorry I got confused between threads. Thanks anyways.
Regards
Where is MQM to respond here?
helo to all
i just wana ask all of you one question
how many off u have ever visited the great city of Karachi n if u have for how long?
you guys dont know shit about karachi n MQM!! its so funny the way u guys are posting ur comments saying MQM IS DOING PATHETIC POLITICS n bla bla BECOZZ u like fuedals like nawaz n zardari who looted the nations money n own houses n every f…….. corner of pakistan n world!!
tell me how many of MQM ministers own their houses even the CITY nazim of karachi lives on rent
karachi is way differnt then sarghoda n bhawalpur n toba thek singh so dont tell karachites what to do …they are educated ppl n they know better who to support n who not too??? you have to face the bitterness of the reality tht karachi who generates the 70% of pakistan’s revenues is completely ruled n run by the MQM for ur info ITS MUTTAHIDA QOMI MOVEMENT NOT MUHAJIR qomi movement!!
if any one of u have proper question to ask u may go ahead or if wana bullshit around then A PERSON GETS WHAT HE DESERVEEEEEEEEEEEE
My Question are:
Where was, and where is “His highness” Mr Altaf Hussain?
Will he ever come back to our homeland ,Pakistan, or will prefer living and dying in UK and speaking for the wishes of India?
Is it so that he did not even trust his own party’s givernment in Sindh, so that he did not tried to come back to Pakistan?
Why Imran Khan is not allowed to visit Karachi? Is it Democratic?
Mr Altaf Hussain is a man,I suppose,then he should at least take a lesson from a brave woman of Sindh,Who died for Pakistan.
When will MQM’s top leadership going to stop the terrorism(like on 12th May) and Bhatta based party governance?
I love Karachi.Kaarchi is the city of Quaid, the Mini Pakistan, and all the Karachians are as much sincere to Pakistan as that of any other city.BUT when MQM is going to stop the dictatorship and letting the people of Karachi to vote on their own?
MQM persons are mostly well educated and living for good causes,but Mr Altaf and his elite leadership speak for India, go for GUN and TERROR. WHY?
now about imran khan as we all know wat he said n still say about mqm n altaf hussain(which is the local ruling party n local leader )MQM is not allowing him into karachireason is simple if GOD FORBID somebody try n attack him its will be taken as an attack from MQM n tht will b the last thing MQM want so they r tryin to keep it safe for them for imran kha himself let me tell u imran khn is not very famous in karachi
your last question for ur infomation in karachi the sectarian violenece is ZERO PERCENT under MQM rule(last 5 years) its was just 12 may day that brought chaos n so amny ppl wer killed which is regretful
it is very un comfortable when people who have never been to karachi talk most about tht cityyy ppl are educated in karachi thts the reason y they vote for mqm nobody is perfect mqm did mistakes but they are way better than other parties
peace to all GOD BLESS ALL
@captainjack
If MQM was to be the ruling party in Karachi or Sindh then there is no problem…but using voilence to obtain the results is no way of doing it.
your so called quaid altaf hussain said in India that Pakistan was a mistake! How can you defend that?
Canada has declared MQM as terrorist organization, I don’t know what U.K. is waiting for, where your quaid is hiding.
Who would attack Imran Khan in Karachi beside MQM?
@ captainjack
Tell me how many times you are robbed in karachi, My three brothers, cousins, 4 very close friends are robbed not once number of times from cell snatching to car theft to home robbery?
Every month they charge 100 Rs bhatta from almost every flats in the university road.
Where is the Altaf brother’s widow and her family ????
I am SOOOOO surprized that no body has asked MQM the very fundamental question yet, which is the following:
What happened to your original goals and promises which resonated with many Karachiites
1)Abolishing the ‘Quota system
2)Bringing back starnded Pakistanis in Bangladesh (so called Biharis)
Why is “altaf Bhai” not even talking about them any more??? was MQM just exploiting a popular sentiment at the time to gain popularity?
and one more thing:
3)How does MQM explain the following phenomenon?:
Whereas all over the country, masses of common man thouroughly trashed and humiliated all Musharraf allies but MQM (as they claim) managed to get EVEN more votes then 2002 election Are Karachiites so out of sync of the reality that has dawned upon rest of the country’s masses or should we suspect something fishy here??
Could it be that that while the country is finally beginning to rid itself from feudalism, zaat and biradri (thanks to media), poor karachiites are still hostage to systematic fear and extortion.
http://www.geocities.com/sheikh.javed/diwana.jpg
Can anyone through light on the creation of MQM
MQM was created by ISI to divide Sindh in Rural and Urban division. This was patronized by Zia Shaitan. Later ISI saw that Altaf Hussain was gifting the biggest cake on GM Syed birthday . Hummmmmmmmm their plan did not work.
Guys the greatest enemy of Pakistan is Paki Generals and ISI. As long as ISI and its political wing stays intact, there will never be a peaceful Pakistan.
@CaptainJack. This is 2008 and you don’t have to be physically in KHI to understand what is going on. Videos of May12th are available all over the world. Mobiles snatching, robbing and Bhatta stories are told by Karachites themselves again and again. You tried to make fun of Bhawalpur and Toba Tek Singh but these cities are more peaceful than KHI as they don’t have to face bhatta khor criminals every day.
All the country is united against Musharraf and his supporters (PMLQ,MQM, Fazlu) but if MQM is still winning in KHI than it is clear rigging or votes are solely based on ethinicity not on national issues.
woooooooooo lot of questions here ….. LIKE IT!!!!
i will answer you guys one by one as i HAVE .. @ JKS you are pathetic my frend you really dont know nothin about KHI somebody told me when i was a kid ….THT DONT BELEIVE IN WAT U HEAR ONLY BELEIVE IN WAT U SEEE soo you r one of those PPL who beleive in stories i m sure u r from the bigger province n have never visited KHI – KHI is the biggest City of pakistan n 8 biggest in the world so dont compare khi’s law n order with bhalwapur n mianwali MQM since 88 is unianimous winner IN KARACHI for u i can just say GET WELL SOON
try n b real n sometimes use ur brain…..
@ jamshed khan you r right when u say THe problem of our country is ISI n Establishment there are mixxed stories About MQM’s creation But IF MQM wud b a tool of ISI Ther WUD NOT B A ARMY OPERATION FOR SEVEN YEARS sooooooooooo
@ FAHIM23 LOL u make me laugh reallyyy!!! u said ur brothers n cousin n frends get robbed BUT NOT YOU RIGHT again STORIESS and i dont say ther is no robberies or mobile snatching HOW CAN U SAY THEY WER MQM GUYS ?? DID UR COUSIN BROTHER ASKED THEM OF THEIR POLITICAL PARTY LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL grow up my frend!!
I M Living in tht city since i m born n i have lived in so many places even gulshan (that includes university road) n we have never paid any bhatta for my Flat as u said khair koshish achi theeeee hahahahahah get well soon
@MOODY bhai meray dost MQM as i said is the UNIANIMOUS WINNER in karachi since 88 but whole of 90th decade(ie 91 to 99) Mqm was under ARMY operation so how can u expect them to do all they said they wud doo?? in last five years karachi wer facing more grave task then quota system n biharis The major problems wer SECTARIAN VIOLENCE suicide bombing n HEAVY TRAFFIC — SECTARIAN violence n suicide attacks has gone to ZERO (check ur stats)n for traffics problems ther have done HELL lot of work on ground that includes building bridges underpasses express ways thanks to musharf n MQM Thats y i say GO TO KARACHI N HAVE A LOOK u might feel better………. peaceeeeeeeeeeeee
@captainjack:
You have a typical MQM way of answering questions. Bla bla and try to change the topic.
Anyway I asked how come all Pakistan has voted against Mush and his supporters PML-Q/MQM but only in KHI Mush’s party is winning? As far as development is concerned Parvez Ilahi has a lot more development in Punjab than what MQM has done in KHI but still PMP-Q got washed out as people were voting on national issues like free judiciary. So u r telling me that for KHI only voting criteria is a few flyovers and they don’t care abt any other issue. I don’t what is your problem about coming to KHI and see the facts as I have been to KHI quite a few times,almost 50% of my family is in KHI and according to MQM’s definition I am also a mohajir but I don’t call myself a mohajir as we are all Pakistanis now. I know very well the ground realities in KHI and I am 100% sure that these lunatics like Altaf are not representatives of majority of Karachites.
BTW: just a suggestion for you that you are not winning any friends here if you keep on making fun of small cities. I was right in commenting that these small cities are much more peaceful than KHI. Crime rates in KHI are more than any city in Pakistan.
Pakistan Zindabad..
Pakistn zinda o paindabad!!!!!!!!!!!!
@captainjact.
MQM
Election Rigging Videos:-
http://www.naitazi.com/2008/02/24/mqm-election-rigging-videos-works-without-youtube
Why Altaf bhai london wala not come in karachi and run to his party? He is delivering order from London? Blintly support the military dictatorship in country.
Shame on MQM.
Long live imran khan.
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