why sometimes they (journalists) become so stupid, why they try to reach conclusions before time. too early to discuss YRG charachter. let him run the Govt. for few months
Talat has such a great grip on any subject he picks up for discussion. He commands the guests on the subject…avoids subject detracking and cheap argument/conflict development.
Talat was quite boorish and I do not like the way they ahve started pre-judging the government even before they have started the job. They should be given some time.
Nusrat was the sanest voice of all. Naseem Zehra disappointed with her analysis on Gillani being a stopgap PM. The analysis was not based on,logic but on gutt feeling.
The worse thing is the treatment of Makhdoom Amin Fahim by both media and PPP. PPP should publicly appologize to the veteran leader for treating him like a tissue paper. This was mishandled and still is being mishandled. If Zardari can talk to the Don of London, then he should surely talk with Amin Fahim.
you are simply awesome,you will be my guest when ever you come to london,its a small house n i dont drive as my license got cancelled for overspeeding but you will still get a free stay and free food
Lol @ not speaking good english!
it’s not his first language, even I can’t speak good english, i don’t think the chinese and japenese leaders speak english or even other countries’ leaders, they speak their own language and have translators.
shujjat hussain has been named PM even for 40 days,english is far ahead he cant even speak proper punjabi i m sure n even if he does no body can understand that
so this is a lame excuse that he cant speak good english
you need to come out of the slavery mind of english
I don’t want to sound like a pessimisist, but surely all this is going to be overshadowed by the real issues that will arise in Parliament once NS and his cronies start to push for what THEY want, rather than what the public NEEDS.
I have not been a huge fan of Pakistani politics and nothing i have seen lately will change my mind- we have all seen it before- empty promises followed by more empty promises… Can someone please tell me if they REALLY believe that any of these politicians give a monkey’s about the poor people of our beautiful country???
In the end, as we have seen in the PM leadership farce within the PPP, ( or is it PPPP?) most of thes highly ambitious and SELFISH people only care about one’s self and will blame others ( already started) once they ultimately fail to deliver on their promises.
I pray that my assessment is proven wrong and our country flourishes and the average poor man on the street can at least feed his family..
@MukMkaa
Thank you very much for the info and I will send him this challenge Immediatly. And will let you know if he agrees to a public debat on national TV.
Read my post carefully because here is a challenge.
Allhamdulillah thummah Alhamdulillah. I have the ability to bring All of the other Scholars this Ghamidy is saying are not willing to talk to him on Talat’s programme if he is willing to host them.
I make this challenge with full responsibility and promise that I can deliver what I said.
It was very unprofessional of Talat to invite Ghamidy and not invite those who might oppose his views.
So if Aaj TV has any substance, then accept my proposal and, inshallah within a month I will have the Ulema on Talats show. However Ghamidy raises Issues that require detailed answers for those who have no religious knowledge so it would only be appropriate for Aaj to host a series of shows so that his concerns can be addressed accordingly.
If you do not want to oblige yourself to this challenge then do not host one side shows of people like Ghamidy who have a very questionable agenda and do not have the majority of the public behind them.
Recently, you were seen on Aaj TV with Talat Hussain. Where you promoted your unfounded beliefs and claimed that the Ulamaye Haq are not willing to have dialogue with you. I Challenge to bring the afore mentioned Ulama in a debate with you on Aaj TV if they are willing to host a series of programmes where you can put forward your views and present your argument. If Aaj are not willing to host I am hope full that some other TV satation will accommodate this debate.
I will initiate the process once you have accepted my proposal.
Please don’t repeat same message on multiple pages and don’t paste unrelated items as per the rules below.
In case you “definitely” need to share something important, then please open a new topic in discuss and paste the link for that topic in the comments here to get attention.
@m5433d ,
religion is a very serious and sensitive issue …
u have to be consious and resposible enough to make these kind of statements and through these kinds of challenges at a public forum.
@Beenai
I appreciate and thank you for your concern. This is precisely what I have been arguing on this forum. A lot of people here think that deen is Just a joke. That anyone can come along and interpret any thing the way they like it or the way it suits them. Obviously, if this was the case Allah would have not bothered with messengers and would have just sent the books through a postal service.
What I have been telling these people is that just like a barber cannot go and perform brain surgery or just like a doctor cannot ask the opinion of his patient on a scientific paper of a science journal, you can’t expect a person of no suitable religious knowledge and qualification to give judgment on which religious doctrine is right and which is wrong, especially, without reading across the broad spectrum of different qualified opinions. But some people here find it disturbing that the worldly sciences should be guarded and should have set standards for professionals but it is only Allah’s deen that is worthless and needs no Qualification before you open your mouth.
As I said I appreciate your concern, But Alhamdulillah, I cannot thank Allah enough that he gave me the opportunity to understand deen from the Ulamaye Haq and then the opportunity to question it as well.
@Beenai
Also, please have a look at my post on Talats show on 21st of march that had Ghamidy on it and you will have a better Idea of what I am talking about.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm
always good to listen to bolta pakistan duo….
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:30 pm
why sometimes they (journalists) become so stupid, why they try to reach conclusions before time. too early to discuss YRG charachter. let him run the Govt. for few months
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
@atif, it is their job to put representatives of the people of Pakistan under a microscope.
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Talat has such a great grip on any subject he picks up for discussion. He commands the guests on the subject…avoids subject detracking and cheap argument/conflict development.
He is the Best Guy on the scene.
Thanks Admin.
Long Live Pkpolitics.
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Why MQM decided to quit from PM race,
http://www.ummatpublication.com/cartoons942629427/index.php?album=&image=80323.jpg
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Yousaf Raza Gillani cannot speak good english.
March 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Talat was quite boorish and I do not like the way they ahve started pre-judging the government even before they have started the job. They should be given some time.
Nusrat was the sanest voice of all. Naseem Zehra disappointed with her analysis on Gillani being a stopgap PM. The analysis was not based on,logic but on gutt feeling.
The worse thing is the treatment of Makhdoom Amin Fahim by both media and PPP. PPP should publicly appologize to the veteran leader for treating him like a tissue paper. This was mishandled and still is being mishandled. If Zardari can talk to the Don of London, then he should surely talk with Amin Fahim.
March 24th, 2008 at 12:29 am
admin
you are simply awesome,you will be my guest when ever you come to london,its a small house n i dont drive as my license got cancelled for overspeeding but you will still get a free stay and free food
its a deal
keep it up
March 24th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Lol @ not speaking good english!
it’s not his first language, even I can’t speak good english, i don’t think the chinese and japenese leaders speak english or even other countries’ leaders, they speak their own language and have translators.
March 24th, 2008 at 1:22 am
shujjat hussain has been named PM even for 40 days,english is far ahead he cant even speak proper punjabi i m sure n even if he does no body can understand that
so this is a lame excuse that he cant speak good english
you need to come out of the slavery mind of english
March 24th, 2008 at 1:53 am
I love the “dil jalaa” style of Nusrat Javed! What was that jibe at seraiki’s though.. (oooh seraiki’s are sneaky! boo hoo!)
March 24th, 2008 at 3:33 am
exellent program. specially Nusrat comments about rashid Qureshi
March 24th, 2008 at 4:09 am
@admin
what r u goint to post tonight? please give us some update
March 24th, 2008 at 5:27 am
Well a good programme like always and here is the situation of the Government in Baluchistan…. its a strong opposition. Chori sb did a real good work in uniting the Qs there
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2008/03/080323_baloch_assembly_rr.shtml
March 24th, 2008 at 7:04 am
well said abt rashid qureshi’s associations, hes a dumb ARS,
MINHAS has a gud assessment,
all 6 guys ve gud analysis, better than G E O kids
March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Yesterday’s ‘Pachas Minute’ is very good…if possible, please put it online here…
thanks
March 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
@Kalim Why does have to speak good english?
March 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I don’t want to sound like a pessimisist, but surely all this is going to be overshadowed by the real issues that will arise in Parliament once NS and his cronies start to push for what THEY want, rather than what the public NEEDS.
I have not been a huge fan of Pakistani politics and nothing i have seen lately will change my mind- we have all seen it before- empty promises followed by more empty promises… Can someone please tell me if they REALLY believe that any of these politicians give a monkey’s about the poor people of our beautiful country???
In the end, as we have seen in the PM leadership farce within the PPP, ( or is it PPPP?) most of thes highly ambitious and SELFISH people only care about one’s self and will blame others ( already started) once they ultimately fail to deliver on their promises.
I pray that my assessment is proven wrong and our country flourishes and the average poor man on the street can at least feed his family..
But i won’t be holding my breath…..
March 24th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
@m5433d
I really wana help you as it seems our reliogion is in deep danger , Please contact him and do let us know once everything is sorted out.
Address: 51-K Block Model Town Lahore , Pakistan.
Phone No: ( 92) 42-583 4306, 42-585 7528-9
Fax: ( 92) 42-5864856
E-Mail: info@ghamidi.org
March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
@MukMkaa
Thank you very much for the info and I will send him this challenge Immediatly. And will let you know if he agrees to a public debat on national TV.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
following e-mail has been sent to Aaj TV
@ Talat Hussain
Special episode of Live with Talat with Ghamdi
Read my post carefully because here is a challenge.
Allhamdulillah thummah Alhamdulillah. I have the ability to bring All of the other Scholars this Ghamidy is saying are not willing to talk to him on Talat’s programme if he is willing to host them.
I make this challenge with full responsibility and promise that I can deliver what I said.
It was very unprofessional of Talat to invite Ghamidy and not invite those who might oppose his views.
So if Aaj TV has any substance, then accept my proposal and, inshallah within a month I will have the Ulema on Talats show. However Ghamidy raises Issues that require detailed answers for those who have no religious knowledge so it would only be appropriate for Aaj to host a series of shows so that his concerns can be addressed accordingly.
If you do not want to oblige yourself to this challenge then do not host one side shows of people like Ghamidy who have a very questionable agenda and do not have the majority of the public behind them.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
@ m5433d
Yeh baat
Make sure you copy paste the same email at the following web page
http://www.aaj.tv/contactus.php
It has a comments section- I usually use this page to send any messages..
BTW who is the man on your side??
March 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
following has been sent to ino@ghamidi.org
Mr Javed Ghamidy
Recently, you were seen on Aaj TV with Talat Hussain. Where you promoted your unfounded beliefs and claimed that the Ulamaye Haq are not willing to have dialogue with you. I Challenge to bring the afore mentioned Ulama in a debate with you on Aaj TV if they are willing to host a series of programmes where you can put forward your views and present your argument. If Aaj are not willing to host I am hope full that some other TV satation will accommodate this debate.
I will initiate the process once you have accepted my proposal.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
@Pessimist
thanks for info, thats the link I used
March 24th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
@m5433d,
Please don’t repeat same message on multiple pages and don’t paste unrelated items as per the rules below.
In case you “definitely” need to share something important, then please open a new topic in discuss and paste the link for that topic in the comments here to get attention.
Thanks for understanding.
Admin
March 24th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
@admin
Ok accept my appologies. will use the discuss feature
March 25th, 2008 at 4:56 am
@m5433d ,
religion is a very serious and sensitive issue …
u have to be consious and resposible enough to make these kind of statements and through these kinds of challenges at a public forum.
March 25th, 2008 at 5:43 am
@Beenai
I appreciate and thank you for your concern. This is precisely what I have been arguing on this forum. A lot of people here think that deen is Just a joke. That anyone can come along and interpret any thing the way they like it or the way it suits them. Obviously, if this was the case Allah would have not bothered with messengers and would have just sent the books through a postal service.
What I have been telling these people is that just like a barber cannot go and perform brain surgery or just like a doctor cannot ask the opinion of his patient on a scientific paper of a science journal, you can’t expect a person of no suitable religious knowledge and qualification to give judgment on which religious doctrine is right and which is wrong, especially, without reading across the broad spectrum of different qualified opinions. But some people here find it disturbing that the worldly sciences should be guarded and should have set standards for professionals but it is only Allah’s deen that is worthless and needs no Qualification before you open your mouth.
As I said I appreciate your concern, But Alhamdulillah, I cannot thank Allah enough that he gave me the opportunity to understand deen from the Ulamaye Haq and then the opportunity to question it as well.
March 25th, 2008 at 6:00 am
@Beenai
Also, please have a look at my post on Talats show on 21st of march that had Ghamidy on it and you will have a better Idea of what I am talking about.