Comments on: Discuss: Law and Order http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/ pkpolitics.com Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:11:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: KHANGEE http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-88012 KHANGEE Wed, 28 May 2008 09:34:02 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-88012 We need to have rule of LAW in our beloved country, why our culture is changed to WORST, because we see NO respect of law from top of the butchers of Pakistan, and than every one as per his/her capacity doing the same to feel self-pride. Need to change the culture from these LEECHES !!! question is, are we ready for this change ? We need to have rule of LAW in our beloved country, why our culture is changed to WORST, because we see NO respect of law from top of the butchers of Pakistan, and than every one as per his/her capacity doing the same to feel self-pride. Need to change the culture from these LEECHES !!! question is, are we ready for this change ?

]]> By: muhammad zain mushtaq http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-79625 muhammad zain mushtaq Mon, 05 May 2008 06:51:55 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-79625 first of these proposals are wrong (high salaries,talented etc) when the poeple are ethically at a very lowest standards the all these dont matter. second thing is the street power is wrongly utilized either in case of political party or religious political party .the majorty of all party workers are unemployed and are paid for what tont want . the leaders advicxe them to be tolerate and themself enjoy all luxuries. so they and we r their actual power and usually provide them our unanimous support and never ask for gurantee and accountibility. they get our support on perfect issue but never worked in that practically.so that people are continuosly dividing themselves. first of these proposals are wrong (high salaries,talented etc) when the poeple are ethically at a very lowest standards the all these dont matter.
second thing is the street power is wrongly utilized either in case of political party or religious political party .the majorty of all party workers are unemployed and are paid for what tont want .
the leaders advicxe them to be tolerate and themself enjoy all luxuries.
so they and we r their actual power and usually provide them our unanimous support and never ask for gurantee and accountibility.
they get our support on perfect issue but never worked in that practically.so that people are continuosly dividing themselves.

]]> By: fsg.93200 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-74131 fsg.93200 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:04:15 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-74131 as a member said we need to reform our POLICE FORCE, yes i have some suggestions: 1. removing of our present police force 2. make a uniforme police but only for petroling on roads and controlling traffic, same police can control traffic and petrolling. this police must linked with 15 rescue and in case of emergency they should go for rescue. so with this we can save money 3. making a regular investigating police with out uniform fully equiped with good labotries and expets. all other present police investigating forces must be removed( FIA, CID )and others investigation agencies which aree opreating sepratly must be abolished and experts will work in the new investigating police agency and i have a name for it . It can be named CID also. 4. a IB(inteligence bureau) based with out uniform police our present IB must given more power, they must be doing petroling on roads and they must not be recognizeable from cicil people. this force will arrest those peopel who are suspects. 5. All IG's must be appointed by PM or government but no body should be allowed to disturbs these IG's and these IG's will appoint SHO's SP's, DSP's and all . Police must be a institution like army PM has power to appoint services chiefs but not any other LT OR COL. so there should be a same system for police. 6. Computerization of POLICE, all police stations must be linked with each other and it must be on country wide not province wide. 7. CIVIL DEFENCE must be given to FEDRATION not to provinces and only fedration can control POLICE, and all POLICE force must answerable to fed. interior ministry and PM not to PROV HOME DEP. as a member said we need to reform our POLICE FORCE, yes i have some suggestions:

1. removing of our present police force
2. make a uniforme police but only for petroling on roads and controlling traffic, same police can control traffic and petrolling. this police must linked with 15 rescue and in case of emergency they should go for rescue. so with this we can save money

3. making a regular investigating police with out uniform fully equiped with good labotries and expets. all other present police investigating forces must be removed( FIA, CID )and others investigation agencies which aree opreating sepratly must be abolished and experts will work in the new investigating police agency and i have a name for it . It can be named CID also.

4. a IB(inteligence bureau) based with out uniform police our present IB must given more power, they must be doing petroling on roads and they must not be recognizeable from cicil people. this force will arrest those peopel who are suspects.

5. All IG’s must be appointed by PM or government but no body should be allowed to disturbs these IG’s and these IG’s will appoint SHO’s SP’s, DSP’s and all . Police must be a institution like army PM has power to appoint services chiefs but not any other LT OR COL. so there should be a same system for police.

6. Computerization of POLICE, all police stations must be linked with each other and it must be on country wide not province wide.

7. CIVIL DEFENCE must be given to FEDRATION not to provinces and only fedration can control POLICE, and all POLICE force must answerable to fed. interior ministry and PM not to PROV HOME DEP.

]]> By: la51 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-73446 la51 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:58:12 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-73446 We need to reform our police force, I'll start with :- 1. Make police independent of governments . A Minister / MP should not be able to Order Police to take actions on his wish / Command. Police force should be free of all interference in regards to ,(a). fulfiling its duties.( b). Its work force should be granted job security , ie , transfers, promotions,etc. should be on merit and should not be influenced by rulers / politicians or any body else. 2. A permanent Judicial Commission to oversee accountability with powers to dismiss / sack police man / officers. An ordinary citizen's complain should be seriosly taken / acted upon. This process should be Transparent / open to public to inspect. 3. Selection criteria , training , education should reflect public expectations . A good pass in HSC & 25yrs age should be min. Continued training incl forensics should be compulsory for investigation officers. 4. A good wage and work close to home are essential for a happy and satisfied police force. We need to reform our police force, I’ll start with :- 1. Make police independent of governments . A Minister / MP should not be able to Order Police to take actions on his wish / Command. Police force should be free of all interference in regards to ,(a). fulfiling its duties.( b). Its work force should be granted job security , ie , transfers, promotions,etc. should be on merit and should not be influenced by rulers / politicians or any body else. 2. A permanent Judicial Commission to oversee accountability with powers to dismiss / sack police man / officers. An ordinary citizen’s complain should be seriosly taken / acted upon. This process should be Transparent / open to public to inspect. 3. Selection criteria , training , education should reflect public expectations . A good pass in HSC & 25yrs age should be min. Continued training incl forensics should be compulsory for investigation officers. 4. A good wage and work close to home are essential for a happy and satisfied police force.

]]> By: Ahmed Bhai http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67957 Ahmed Bhai Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:24:24 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67957 or a change like this ? http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/04/top8.htm or a change like this ?

http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/04/top8.htm

]]> By: khudakayliye http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67948 khudakayliye Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:02:12 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67948 Public punishment of offenders. An indigenous body in all the provinces to monitor the performance of the police and law enforcement agencies.Who better than ISI.For GOD sake if they can control some corrupt polititians they can easily control some dodgy policemen. Public punishment of offenders. An indigenous body in all the provinces to monitor the performance of the police and law enforcement agencies.Who better than ISI.For GOD sake if they can control some corrupt polititians they can easily control some dodgy policemen.

]]> By: quadpower http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67497 quadpower Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:48:59 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67497 First of all we need to strengthen the judicial system. yes power of police has to be taken care of but it will not impact much if we make the law supreme. Parliament should be supreme but not above law First of all we need to strengthen the judicial system. yes power of police has to be taken care of but it will not impact much if we make the law supreme. Parliament should be supreme but not above law

]]> By: ninetykman http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67474 ninetykman Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:55:24 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67474 I have serious doubts about the intentions of PPP as far as the restoration of the Judiciary is concerned. I have serious doubts about the intentions of PPP as far as the restoration of the Judiciary is concerned.

]]> By: ninetykman http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67472 ninetykman Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:54:20 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67472 Why is Rehman Malik meeting with AG Malik Qayuum. Why is MQ is till the AG. Is there no qualified lawyer in PPP to replace enemy of the people Malik Q. Plus Farooq Naik is also not reliable. Why is Rehman Malik meeting with AG Malik Qayuum.

Why is MQ is till the AG. Is there no qualified lawyer in PPP to replace enemy of the people Malik Q.

Plus Farooq Naik is also not reliable.

]]> By: Asif http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67433 Asif Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:04:22 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/03/31/discuss-law-and-order-2/#comment-67433 Don't repeat the mistake of 90s of appointing the gangsters as SHOs. Let hold open compitition for new recruitments jsut like CSS. Make the police also independent like Judiciary & held them accountable if they dont serve the public office with its spirits. Don’t repeat the mistake of 90s of appointing the gangsters as SHOs. Let hold open compitition for new recruitments jsut like CSS.
Make the police also independent like Judiciary & held them accountable if they dont serve the public office with its spirits.

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