Quite young (34-35 i guess). He is interim CM but looks and talks reasonable unlike his predecessor (Parhey likhey Punjab ka Jahil CM).
Difference? Atchison GC as compared to FC College or may be its part of their character.
Comparing the two CMs (just a personality check) took me here last year video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmNpL4EFGI
The Hanooman claims the biggest credit “25, 30 saal baad assembly ne 5 saal poorey keye hain, Musharraf sb kee waja se”
im a bit inclined towards pmln and think NS is a better leader than others in pakistan (except ik)…but i beg to disagree with khosa that we were not allowed to work in punjab ,we were in opposition most of the time even in 90s…this is incorrect khosa sb……….NS has been CM of punjab from 85 to 90.////and then he was pm for 5 years (from 90-93 and then from 97to 99) he was a minister before 85…so in 17 years he was on power for 14 years and leader of opposition for 3 years (83-96)…
@TK,
Thanks for posting Imran Khan speech. I would like to say something here, which is not part of his speech or part of politics.
I would like to mention about the LUMS here. I have never seen LUMS but i heard a lot about it.
The students of LUMS supposed to be cream of Pakistan.This is one of the expensive university of Pakistan and the students are from rich and high class family.
But If you notice the senario in which Imran Khan gave speech look like a third class place, where seems no organised team, no sitting place, some students are standing,some students are sitting, Mic is not working, there is no place for Imran Khan to come in, there seems no system, only choas, even Imran Khan came late, but the students of LUMS did not took advantage to arrange themselves,seems like a fish market .
If this happened in such a high profile place like LUMS, how could we accept with all our Pakistani fellow who are studing in low level university, or government university.
The main problem in Pakistan is not the education system, but lack of the social education,ethics education.
i feel shame on LUMS now, and from here I can understand that LUMS has no high education but only rich people children are studing and they are as mentally poor as all the other Pakistani.
This is only my opinion.
waiting for reply.
This guy seems to be pretty ok, and being the son of Zulfiqar khosa his loyalty with the party is beyond doubt. Then why he has to be an interim CM and not a permanent one. Why each and every PMLN CM from punjab has to be a kashmiri? Q league turned punjab into Juttland, PMLN should not turn it into Buttland.
You will be glad to know the new government in Punjab has asked LUMS to fix our public school educational system.
The problem is not just LUMS but our society and the issue is again equating money/language with quality. LUMS is considered best here because it’s fees are the highest and it foreign educated faculty who get paid salaries that are much higher than other educational institutions around here. These two factors leads to the assumption by most that LUMS is a great institution.
Do you think the students at LUMS will be competing for jobs like the rest of the graduates? Hardly. It will be their connections getting them the high-paying jobs and any criticisms would be set aside by “But he/she’s a LUMS graduate!” so of course he/she deserves the job.
But let’s not single them out. The same is true all over over here. Teachers in these “best”schools are hired not for their teaching ability but how skimpy they can dress and their pay scale is again not based on ability but how much accent they can throw speaking English.
Two of my kids go to such schools though I am getting my son (KG) out at the end of this session — June — and will home-school him if I have to. Instead of learning stuff he is forgetting what I had taught him. My daughter (Grade 2) is happy with her school so I am keeping her there though not for educational reasons– I cannot provide her with company of girls her age right now as most her cousins are boys. But all teaching for her is done at home.
Just thinking loud..
One thing baffles me is that in Pakistan Govt in power also says that “Sazih ho gayee”. They should investigate and make the findings public.
Another thing which always confuses me when MQM says that establishment is against them and doing consiparcies against them (even when they were in Goverment). What I dont understand who do they refer when they say “establishment” keeping in mind they openely support Mushi.
I myself am a GIKIan but from lower middle economic class. I agree to most of what you wrote but you need to maintain a balance. When I graduated from GIKI some 9-10 years back, I faced a discriminatory attitude from most people at soem interviews. A UET guy would judge me as a rich incompetent person just because I graduated from GIKI. Fortunately I was lucky enough to get to Denmark and make myself a decent career. It was hard to convince my countrymen about my talents but it was relatively much easier in Denmark. Point being … maintain a sense of balance … quality always comes with an associated monetary cost. If a common man cannot afford GIKI or LUMS … the problem lies elsewhere.
@kurkosmici: If you have kids or plan to have ‘em, send them to North korea for schooling. Over there, you will find everything you’re looking for if you wish to permanently institutionaize your childeren as yourself. I also highly recommend chistia ghousia line of madrassas which suits your description well.
I have been to LUMS once. It is indeed a source of pride for every Pakistani. The observations regarding lack of discipline are correct but the discipline is not the basic or primary virtue as is generally believed atleast for the creative and adventorous souls. And also it is incorrect that LUMS is for elites only. The admission criteria is tough. But if a student manage to get admission, then, even if he is poor, LUMS would support his/her education. I am doing my M.Sc. from UK now and I believe that the standard of Education in LUMS is at par if not better than the western instituion. In my view, institutions like LUMS should be followed and replicated in every nook and corner of the country.
If ever, I would go for my doctorate in management studies, I would prefer LUMS over many elite Western Universities. But it is difficult to get into LUMS than to universities abroad.
Lastly friends, lets celebrate the new and refreshing dawn of democracy. I am keeping my fingers crossed for the restoration of judges and impeachment of Musharaf.
I think one of the best interviews. So precise questioning and made the chief minister to answer with full responsibility. Not a bad response by the CM. i wish if he could be the CM for 5 years, but he has to leave in favour of SS. thanks for adding this nice program.
Khosa seems to be a show off novice in the limelight and eager to show his (not so fluent) English capabilities. I am not sure he is fit for this position, but maybe it was not the intention……SS is maybe the real CM just like AZ is pulling the wires in the YRG case
If my assumption is right then it is highly regretabble way to introduce democracy:-(
I don’t think it is that sorrowful a situation. Talat was actually wrong in pointing that ‘you are not actually the CM and SS is not eligible to advice you’. Khosa doesn’t represent himself to be the chief, he has been nominated by the party to lead the province. Whatever he will do, it has to be with the consent of his party leadership. He can not have his own personal agenda. He has to follow the agenda he has been mentioning in his party election campaign. And above all, he won the seat… not because of himself but in fact it was PML(N) who won the seat.
Please convy my massage to the hosts of all the political shows, before they start their program, they should request or instruct their guests to speak in our national language Urdu. Why these politician are knowingly ignorant ? The majority audiance or viewer cant understand English. The goal of politician should be to convy their massage to the broader public. Its only possible if they speak simple Urdu or other regional language by explioting this opportunity to be on the television. Look, Imran khan, Asfand Wali and so on.
Talat Hussain has a mind that works like clockwork. He doesn’t let politicians deviate from the question. Superb points raised
- How can you NOT accept the Presidency of Musharraf, and subsequently, the Governor of Punjab (because he was appointed by Musharraf) BUT accept the election commissioner and the elections UNDER Musharraf which gave you power?
- How can you improve the whole of Punjab when you couldnt even improve your own area (regardless of how long you were in power [3-5 years should have ])displayed some development]) ?
looking at previous CM interview i would like to add how shamelessly Pervaiz Ellahi lied about the tenure of the illegal President as in unfortunate 17th amendment the Presidential election could not be held before 15th November 2007 and 17th amendment allowed mushi kutta to hold office for the fixed term upto 15th November so there was no justification in having him elected by the same puppet parliament.
Secondly when the new coilation wants/ tends to go by constitutionally i would like to add to deal with two number people like mushy you need to deal in the same language which they understand as they are illegal they can be removed by same way they assumed power. “Diamond cuts Diamond”. Mushy plus MQM wants anarchy in the country as both do not regard constitution of this country. So both public enemies must be dealt in the same manner as you can’t get rid of these pests easily they must be sprayed leathly. I would say about PML (Q), MQM and all Army Governers and the illegal Mushy that they are “Divided by interests and UNITED BY CRIME”.
To take these public enemies to justice there is only one justice slain them publically.
its alive
nothing could be better for democracy then 2 guys debating and arguing and fighting about “issues”
nice to see elected people speaking truth.
not working man
was working before i dunno whats up now
@rawk,
I just tuned and restarted server, please let me know if it is okay now.
Admin
no dada no response it was working like an hourish ago.. but not now.. could it be the same thing happened again
i think its the updates thing can you have a check please
@everyone,
Is anyone else having same problem?
Admin
@admin: working for me.. streaming works too.. I just seek’d to a couple places.. worked fine.
I also played the video on 3 computers simultaneously across atlantic and there was no issue.
@rawk, can you do a speed test at speedtest.net?
Admin
video worked fine for me as well
working now
Quite young (34-35 i guess). He is interim CM but looks and talks reasonable unlike his predecessor (Parhey likhey Punjab ka Jahil CM).
Difference? Atchison GC as compared to FC College or may be its part of their character.
Comparing the two CMs (just a personality check) took me here last year video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmNpL4EFGI
The Hanooman claims the biggest credit “25, 30 saal baad assembly ne 5 saal poorey keye hain, Musharraf sb kee waja se”
Imran Khan speech Nov 03 2007 at LUMS
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6289251613396804529
(I thought he was underground then?)
skip the first 7 minutes of teenage chicks gushing all over Imran Khan.. (one of those chicks is a guy actually)
They just heard the news about the emergency.. interesting talk…
Free version added.
Admin
sorry.. I thought it was the visitors thread.. oops!
thanks TK
never seen this…but he did mention this somewhere I remember.
im a bit inclined towards pmln and think NS is a better leader than others in pakistan (except ik)…but i beg to disagree with khosa that we were not allowed to work in punjab ,we were in opposition most of the time even in 90s…this is incorrect khosa sb……….NS has been CM of punjab from 85 to 90.////and then he was pm for 5 years (from 90-93 and then from 97to 99) he was a minister before 85…so in 17 years he was on power for 14 years and leader of opposition for 3 years (83-96)…
@TK
Imran Khan speech Nov 03 2007 at LUMS
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6289251613396804529
(I thought he was underground then?)
This speech was before they came to arrest him and before he goes underground. Do not spread misinformation please.
@TK,
Thanks for posting Imran Khan speech. I would like to say something here, which is not part of his speech or part of politics.
I would like to mention about the LUMS here. I have never seen LUMS but i heard a lot about it.
The students of LUMS supposed to be cream of Pakistan.This is one of the expensive university of Pakistan and the students are from rich and high class family.
But If you notice the senario in which Imran Khan gave speech look like a third class place, where seems no organised team, no sitting place, some students are standing,some students are sitting, Mic is not working, there is no place for Imran Khan to come in, there seems no system, only choas, even Imran Khan came late, but the students of LUMS did not took advantage to arrange themselves,seems like a fish market .
If this happened in such a high profile place like LUMS, how could we accept with all our Pakistani fellow who are studing in low level university, or government university.
The main problem in Pakistan is not the education system, but lack of the social education,ethics education.
i feel shame on LUMS now, and from here I can understand that LUMS has no high education but only rich people children are studing and they are as mentally poor as all the other Pakistani.
This is only my opinion.
waiting for reply.
This guy seems to be pretty ok, and being the son of Zulfiqar khosa his loyalty with the party is beyond doubt. Then why he has to be an interim CM and not a permanent one. Why each and every PMLN CM from punjab has to be a kashmiri? Q league turned punjab into Juttland, PMLN should not turn it into Buttland.
@kurkosmici
You will be glad to know the new government in Punjab has asked LUMS to fix our public school educational system.
The problem is not just LUMS but our society and the issue is again equating money/language with quality. LUMS is considered best here because it’s fees are the highest and it foreign educated faculty who get paid salaries that are much higher than other educational institutions around here. These two factors leads to the assumption by most that LUMS is a great institution.
Do you think the students at LUMS will be competing for jobs like the rest of the graduates? Hardly. It will be their connections getting them the high-paying jobs and any criticisms would be set aside by “But he/she’s a LUMS graduate!” so of course he/she deserves the job.
But let’s not single them out. The same is true all over over here. Teachers in these “best”schools are hired not for their teaching ability but how skimpy they can dress and their pay scale is again not based on ability but how much accent they can throw speaking English.
Two of my kids go to such schools though I am getting my son (KG) out at the end of this session — June — and will home-school him if I have to. Instead of learning stuff he is forgetting what I had taught him. My daughter (Grade 2) is happy with her school so I am keeping her there though not for educational reasons– I cannot provide her with company of girls her age right now as most her cousins are boys. But all teaching for her is done at home.
Just thinking loud..
One thing baffles me is that in Pakistan Govt in power also says that “Sazih ho gayee”. They should investigate and make the findings public.
Another thing which always confuses me when MQM says that establishment is against them and doing consiparcies against them (even when they were in Goverment). What I dont understand who do they refer when they say “establishment” keeping in mind they openely support Mushi.
Can anybody enlighten me?
You would always remain baffled if you try to find any logic in an uttering of that imbecile chief of MQM.
@kurkosmici
I myself am a GIKIan but from lower middle economic class. I agree to most of what you wrote but you need to maintain a balance. When I graduated from GIKI some 9-10 years back, I faced a discriminatory attitude from most people at soem interviews. A UET guy would judge me as a rich incompetent person just because I graduated from GIKI. Fortunately I was lucky enough to get to Denmark and make myself a decent career. It was hard to convince my countrymen about my talents but it was relatively much easier in Denmark. Point being … maintain a sense of balance … quality always comes with an associated monetary cost. If a common man cannot afford GIKI or LUMS … the problem lies elsewhere.
@kurkosmici: If you have kids or plan to have ‘em, send them to North korea for schooling. Over there, you will find everything you’re looking for if you wish to permanently institutionaize your childeren as yourself. I also highly recommend chistia ghousia line of madrassas which suits your description well.
I have been to LUMS once. It is indeed a source of pride for every Pakistani. The observations regarding lack of discipline are correct but the discipline is not the basic or primary virtue as is generally believed atleast for the creative and adventorous souls. And also it is incorrect that LUMS is for elites only. The admission criteria is tough. But if a student manage to get admission, then, even if he is poor, LUMS would support his/her education. I am doing my M.Sc. from UK now and I believe that the standard of Education in LUMS is at par if not better than the western instituion. In my view, institutions like LUMS should be followed and replicated in every nook and corner of the country.
If ever, I would go for my doctorate in management studies, I would prefer LUMS over many elite Western Universities. But it is difficult to get into LUMS than to universities abroad.
Lastly friends, lets celebrate the new and refreshing dawn of democracy. I am keeping my fingers crossed for the restoration of judges and impeachment of Musharaf.
@fas: hahaha! I needed that laugh!
I think one of the best interviews. So precise questioning and made the chief minister to answer with full responsibility. Not a bad response by the CM. i wish if he could be the CM for 5 years, but he has to leave in favour of SS. thanks for adding this nice program.
Khosa seems to be a show off novice in the limelight and eager to show his (not so fluent) English capabilities. I am not sure he is fit for this position, but maybe it was not the intention……SS is maybe the real CM just like AZ is pulling the wires in the YRG case
If my assumption is right then it is highly regretabble way to introduce democracy:-(
/Saqib
I don’t think it is that sorrowful a situation. Talat was actually wrong in pointing that ‘you are not actually the CM and SS is not eligible to advice you’. Khosa doesn’t represent himself to be the chief, he has been nominated by the party to lead the province. Whatever he will do, it has to be with the consent of his party leadership. He can not have his own personal agenda. He has to follow the agenda he has been mentioning in his party election campaign. And above all, he won the seat… not because of himself but in fact it was PML(N) who won the seat.
@ Admin
Please convy my massage to the hosts of all the political shows, before they start their program, they should request or instruct their guests to speak in our national language Urdu. Why these politician are knowingly ignorant ? The majority audiance or viewer cant understand English. The goal of politician should be to convy their massage to the broader public. Its only possible if they speak simple Urdu or other regional language by explioting this opportunity to be on the television. Look, Imran khan, Asfand Wali and so on.
Talat Hussain has a mind that works like clockwork. He doesn’t let politicians deviate from the question. Superb points raised
- How can you NOT accept the Presidency of Musharraf, and subsequently, the Governor of Punjab (because he was appointed by Musharraf) BUT accept the election commissioner and the elections UNDER Musharraf which gave you power?
- How can you improve the whole of Punjab when you couldnt even improve your own area (regardless of how long you were in power [3-5 years should have ])displayed some development]) ?
looking at previous CM interview i would like to add how shamelessly Pervaiz Ellahi lied about the tenure of the illegal President as in unfortunate 17th amendment the Presidential election could not be held before 15th November 2007 and 17th amendment allowed mushi kutta to hold office for the fixed term upto 15th November so there was no justification in having him elected by the same puppet parliament.
Secondly when the new coilation wants/ tends to go by constitutionally i would like to add to deal with two number people like mushy you need to deal in the same language which they understand as they are illegal they can be removed by same way they assumed power. “Diamond cuts Diamond”. Mushy plus MQM wants anarchy in the country as both do not regard constitution of this country. So both public enemies must be dealt in the same manner as you can’t get rid of these pests easily they must be sprayed leathly. I would say about PML (Q), MQM and all Army Governers and the illegal Mushy that they are “Divided by interests and UNITED BY CRIME”.
To take these public enemies to justice there is only one justice slain them publically.
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