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As a nation we have become monsters, this image is so shameful and gross. It shows there is no law at all. Oh!!!! law?? what is that thing?
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/15-05-2008/topst/m.2.jpg
@savage
fully agreed with you. could you please add text of the news.
News added at this link.
Welcome to my Country, Pakistan.
Fortunately we have managed to free this country from any laws prevailing on this globe. We feel that the laws put on restrictions, and we are not ready to accept any restriction.
We are a free nation and hence we do take pride in freeing ourselves from all the moral and social laws. Thanks to our great Generals ruling us who taught us that Constitution is a piece of papers which can be teared and thrown away any time.
We invite you to this part of the world where we choose our leaders on basis of their corruption. We developed this great idea that corrupt people are Genius people. We therefore choose these Genius people to rule us.
We have said goodbye to all social bindings and laws. Why should we stop at a red Signal ? We are a free nation and hence do not want to obey the cheap limitations imposed by these superficial laws.
We dont mind if somebody has conspired to kill our dear ones. If it results in us having indemnity and save all the wealth that we have accumulated, we very gladly accept the killers. See how open minded we are !!!
We are a country who do believe on God and for that reason we do not have any health system for poors. Believing in God tells us that when the time comes, one will die. We hence do not feel that their is a necessity of providing them with health care, God willing and they die !!!
Pakistan Zindabad
To be continued……
Ansar Abbasi: Punjab Govt asking Rs 7 million from Musharaf’s friend for aircraft fees: http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=112593
didn’t Musharaff once said ” Pakistan 1st ”
NS nomination papers from NA123 Lahore accepted!!!
Ch. Shujaat, Ch. Pervaiz Ilahi and Hamid Nasir Chatta met with Musharaff today and addressed the media together afterwards…..
there is some thing BIG in the making and it certainly wont be a forward group of PMLQ, infact I see a Complete PMLQ supporting PPP for GOVT and hence a Push to PMLN….
Its time for NS to get out from this Zardari romance before AZ hits on NS’s self esteem……………APDM is also waiting for NS’s decision….. cz the “Shab Deag” is ready for him……………………………!!
A new ‘charm offensive’ aimed at the Pakistani Public ??
Current Supreme court is taking Suo Moto action against the 54 Billion Loans “Forgiven” by the previous Shauka Chore govt:
http://dailywaqt.com/150508/Images/bp-08.gif
WTF? Any guru’s care to comment on this ??
@Riddle: In mush’s mind “pakistan” means “pervez Musharrf”.. please do this translation in head as he does it as well…
So, after translation, repeat after me:
“Musharrf First!”
@TK,
I believe this loan issue is being opened by Musharraf Kutta to pull strings of Chaudhry brothers who refused to leave the PMLQ leadership and may also look towards PML-N camp. The main issue is the number game in Parliament to legalize the actions of November 3rd and Chaudhry brothers can either make or break this deal.
One of the main beneficiary of “Loan Forgiving” were Chaudhry brothers.
@rasheed: aaah! for a second I thought these EVIL ba$tard$ had grown a heart in the pitch black cavities inside them
@admin
Naseem Zehra was talking to Kh. Asif. Wondering if we can video of that interview
And of course the Chaudhries ran to Mush so it must be working ….
PPP Foreigh Ofice as khasi as Mush’s:
FO refuses to comment on Bajaur attack
@nota
Whenever their is a talk on peace process, this thing happens. Before missile attack, there were news that troops moved their positioins from Waziristan, it was all to jeopardize peace process. Expect a new row of khud-kush attacks, and tall claims “Sar mill geya hai”.
By the way did you notice how quick Indian traced Jaypur masterminds, they have published it’s sketch, and our world famous agencies.. Oh never mind, they are for different use.
“Capital Talk” is discussing PPP reconcilian policy at gross root, they just reported that Layari crime rate has dropped in recent time because PPP handed layari’s “aman-o-amaan” to Rehmn Dekait, so vertually no law and order forces are working… Well done Nabeel Ghobol for imposing writ of state this quick.
PPP is right who needs these judges any more. Layari to Rahman Dekait, Pakistan to Zardari, PEACE…ZZZZZzzzzzzz ZZZZZZzzzzz ZZZZzzz
Just look at the protocol Moshe gets.. Who wants to leave that kind of “Aish” ???
http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=2845
“The role of the president of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel”
Finally someone speaks the truth . The guy is not a lefty. I think he did not realize he is NOT supposed to expose such things Bet he will get in trouble for this.
Did anyone just see what happened on the Kamran Khan show? The show began and Rahimullah Yusufzai was about to speak on the Bajaur missile strike and then they immediately went to commercial. The show was only on for 2 minutes! Now they’ve been doing commercials for 10 minutes in a row. The commercials began just as Yusufzai, the first guest, was to speak. STRANGE.
WHAT? Now Ghamidi is on now!
@billy
thats your ppp’s freedom of speech policy. they are champions of these democratic values. Recently they held elections for their leadership and elected the most experienced and deserving chairman as well.
@BilllyBhuttoZardari
They did start it later. Don’t know when but I caught the end of it where he had one of the ANP guys whom said rightly that the first Bajour missle attack, our army claimed responsibility. Karman LIED and said they did not. ANP guy said they did. Kamran dropped him immediately and repeated the LIE once again. And that was the end of the show. (Remember the first reporter to report the incident as a US missle strike was picked up by intelligence agancies and murdered. And just a little time ago his widow was murdered as well by a b*mb planted outside her home.)
Here is a link to the story :
82 die as missiles rain on Bajaur: Pakistan owns up to strike; locals blame US drones
And of our govt. taking credit for the murder:
Bajaur operation not under any pressure: FO
Bajaur dead were all militants, says Musharraf
President Musharraf told an international gathering that anyone saying innocent people were killed in the air strike was lying.
“They were all militants. They were doing military training there. We were working on them for last six, seven days and we know who they were and what they were doing,” the president said at the opening of a seminar on security in South Asia.
Commanders to discuss Bajaur bombing
“He defended the attack and said it was conducted by Pakistani forces and not by US or any other foreign forces.”
But it was US that exposed Mush’s lies (Al Qaeda was target of Bajaur attack: US ) but he still continued to insist all the killed were militants. In fact he even released a video of them “training” at Fajir time.
KAMRAN KHAN: YOU ARE A LY!NG SACK OF SH!T!
@nota
You are giving all these logics as if establishment and west consider us humans. Do you remember in defence of his unconstitutional act,on 3rd Nov 2007 , Busharraf gave the logic on his televised speech that Pakistanis donot deserve the same human rights and democracy as people in west do. This is the problem. We are missing the fundamental question here. All these logics will fall on deaf ears because people n power (including fudels of PPP) donot consider us worthy of any of these rights. I agree with NS and APDM that this is the fight for another independence. I have a strong intution that atta crisis and all other crisis are self created by establishment because asking for justice is athe level of self actualization whereas establishment eants to keep them at first step of Maslow’s pyramid.
Hey! anyone know the names of all the people in the Establishment and where they live?
@TK
Establishment is a dynamic phenomenon and to understand it you have to understand the fourth dimention.
This is a term loosely applied to the ruling class elite. However in lay terms it is a cult that most of the people deprived of their basic needs wish to and dream to join.
Once you hve been part of it even foor a while, you are given a different status in the society so this is a different cast and crede system with a history of of millions of years. Have you ever thought why people still keep the titles like RAJput,Mughal,etc(no offencxe to any of thses royals hanging around among us commons). So establishment, in another way is probably a social behaviour without the boundries of any formal institutions.
Now who is establishment? You suggest and we will add.
Everybody in House is busy in cashing the judiciary issue. But no one is sincere in resolving the issue. PMLN being a part of government failed to convince the coalition on restoration od judiciary(good on talk but still no walk).
Boycotted Tasser\’s oath ceremoney but eventualy will have to work with him(again good on talk but still no walk), how long the can boycott, Its just a dinner away to get away with boycott.
Sharifs paper accpeted this time without any change in Judiciary. So the decisions made by courts are still political & heavily influenced by the ruling party.
The people yet again are the victims of ruling classes\’ injustice & brutalities, with the only exception of change of label from PMLQ to PPP PMLN ANP.
Can these goons change their nature? if can\’t then they would be the next to be burned alive like the street robbers the other day. It seemz to be no more fiction but a bitter reality………
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@TK on May 15th, 2008 5:45 pm
Man i dont think its mush convoy he has 9 mercedes convoy plus 2 dummy convoys (ie 27 mercs ) This look more like governor or cm they had 2/3 mercs/bmw.
Lawyers: We will not support Aitezaz Ahsan on PPP ticket for election: http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/16-05-2008/main.htm
@Riddle, most of office bearer at different Bar council around Pakistan are from forum of Pakistan People Party’s lawyer forum. So forget about any street demonstration of large magnatuted. NS did not learn any thing from his past mistake. Although I agree that his cheque does not come directly from US. He should start thinking about Pakistan.
18th Feb, election produce hung parlaiment as Gen Mush said it would. It was great of Zardari and PPP to go in partnership with NS instead of PMLQ which they could have easily. NS should be thank ful of that instead of quarling like six year old.
As far as judge are concern they are corrupt. who allowed to the General of Pakistan Army to rule over Pakistan CJ iftakar. Well if you kill some one and than say sorry and accept that law will not take it course and you are living in fools paradise. CJ would and should feel very lucky if is reinstate. I would vote for him not to be restored.
While Deposed judges blast charity offer of reappointment, two stories in The News give opposite takes on Aitzaz’s press conference:
Aitzaz supports Asif over proposed resolution
“…Aitzaz Ahsan on Thursday said a joint resolution by parliament for the restoration of the judges, as recommended by PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari, would be an appropriate step…” WTF?
PPP has disappointed nation: Aitzaz
“…He said he had always apprised PPP Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari of his stance on the restoration of judiciary but he did not agree to his stance.”
Did anyone watch Aitzaz news conference?
Acceptance of (NS / SS) papers raises new fears by Ansar Abbasi
ISLAMABAD: The credibility of the Election Commission took a battering on Thursday when the nomination papers of the PML-N leaders, Mian Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif, were accepted by the returning officers. The decision came months after the rejection of their papers on certain grounds.
However, a new crisis could develop if the returning officers’ decision is challenged in the High Court or the Supreme Court where the PCO judges would conduct the proceedings. Nawaz Sharif would not contest his case as a matter of principle as he does not recognise the PCO courts. Thus, Nawaz may lose the case by default….
Speaker NA Dr. Fahmida Mirza asking for New Couches….~ !
http://statesman.com.pk/pictures/APP39-15Islamabad.jpg
http://statesman.com.pk/pictures/APP41-15Islamabad.jpg
http://statesman.com.pk/pictures/APP40-15Islamabad.jpg
Half of Karachi without electricity-man climbs 300 feet high power lines
AAJ, Express TV reporting LIVE
! ? ! > $
Same court, same EC accepts NS papers. And now NS calls it first step towards independent judiciary. On one side, PML is going nuts over Taseer’s appointment, on the other hand they accept the old system.
PML-N can’t continue to take moral high ground for long if they continue supporting Federal govt and enjoy power in Punjab. Awam and Media will soon get tired of this “karwi goli” politics.
Police brutality in Pakistan:
http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12267
@democrat: re: “establishment”
If you don’t know who your enemy is how are you going to fight it? Can you pinpoint what people (actual humans) this ‘pahaaRi Jinn” called ‘establishment’ consists of?
BTW, I have violently disagreed with the misinformation spread by the kleptocracy that “establishment” is a dynamic phenomenon.. very ver very hard to know who it is..
The question was rhetorical and to force an acknowledgement that we don’t know what the FRUK this ‘establishment’ is.. but we keep harping about it.. In the meantime, this ‘establishment’ keeps affecting real and brutal change and degeneration in our society..
so.. what gives?
I want names!
P.S. I’ve tried to explain this issue and the ‘establishment’ in the Pakistani context in my blog.. I think our opinions differ on this.
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/16-05-2008/col3.htm
Naji, The A–Hole
looks like Naji recieved a big fat poTli of cash from the secret accounts of the “ministry of Information”..
what a shameless lifafa journalist!
PPP-Q is going to be the bit$h of the year and Chaudry Asif Ali Ghadari the son of the bit$h.
kamran khan is a disgrace to journalism!
Why the hell is Zardari getting briefing from ISI ? He is not a member of parliament, not even senate, has NO portfolio and has NOT signed ANY “secrets act”
how the hell is this guy going to bring about “supremacy of Parliament” when he himself has NO IDEA what it means to follow proper procedure?
WHY the hell is ISI giving top secret briefings to this guy? How the F*K is this different than a one man rule that Mushie was accused of? How is this following the rule of law and procedures of national security? And why the he!! is National “Security” Council quiet on this matter?
http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=_Zm3FoO-6rU
@TK,
I had raised this exact same point long time ago. I think it was the first ‘briefing’ in which NS and AZ were present. I was told by @Peja, it’s their right because they have people’s ‘mandate’.
@Rashid: well that makes the two of us.
@admin: some javascript on the “blacksheep” page and visitor page kills my FireFox when I follow any of the links to “most recent comments” from the front page.. it just dies and says “reading from pagead2.googlesyndicate.com” or something like that…
it happens a lot.. I have firefox latest version.
@TK
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Why the hell is Zardari getting briefing from ISI ? He is not a member of parliament, not even senate, has NO portfolio ….
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It is simple because he is getting the fokking protocol for complying with the GHQ, not touching Moshe and obediently bowing to the US. What a fokking joke PPP has become becuse of the likes of these so-called “beloved leaders”.
@kinnare
Man, I don’t know whether I should laugh at your statements or feel sorry for you and the others like you who “seriously” believe that Zardari is a great leader. What a fokking joke.
@TK:
“Why the hell is Zardari getting briefing from ISI ? He is not a member of parliament, not even senate, has NO portfolio and has NOT signed ANY “secrets act”
how the hell is this guy going to bring about “supremacy of Parliament” when he himself has NO IDEA what it means to follow proper procedure?”
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It is not very hard to understand. When you see Pervez Ellah talk about Mao and Che, Zardari can yap his flap about the Parliament being sovereign.
Remember when he came back right after BB’s death, he had the same Ghunda mustache, the same Khopra glasses…Must have been Sherry Rehman who gave the pickpocket a makeover with a clipped mustache and rimless glasses. And it must have been Hussain Haqqani. the mirror image of Mushahid Hussain, who taught him these ‘big words’ to Zardari, the Lutaira of Larkana.
The so called democracy has become a joke all around. We have a puppet Prime Joker in YRG, AZ snake roaming around at Mush’s will, Farooq H sNaeks making a mockery of the whole situation, Rehman “The Snake” Malik also roaming around at Bush’s will. How can jiyalas tolerate this? Don’t they have any respect left?
Obviously not
/Saqib
@tk, rashid
we dont know what the extent of the briefing was…why it was deemed important at this point in time……and from which ‘mouth’ of the faujistanisi establishment it came..
@mbokhari: totally.I think it is HH who’s been coaching this douche! and I think he did all that goofy sultan rahi stache with thick rimmed glasses n walking stick BS to try to fool BB with all that shtick!
This guy is No Hakim Ali Zardari.. let alone Bhutto! What the hell are we doing?
@ashahid
Stop being a cl0wn and stop spreading lies. You are also violating pkpolitics policy by copy/pasting “articles”
Well I raised the issue of NS and Zardari getting briefing from Kiyani and the other jurnails and I was thouroughly attacked by all the jiyalas (who seem to have disappeared off the FACE OF THE EARTH!!!)
I’m not counting the M.Q.M transvestites still pretending to be PPP “jiyalas”
@TK
Just change the issue and they will all readily jump back to participate in the debate.
/Saqib
@econfused:
I noticed that too.. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is the guy himself.. ..
@ashahid: Please don’t post that rupee-news tripe verbatim.. if you must point out an email use a snippet posting/pasting service.
I wonder what’s going to happen in the near future….I give the current Snake-administration around 6 months when the Atta, power, inflation will catch up with them. I was reading something the other day and some PPP-Q guy was saying that the lawyers have no jigra to get beat up on roads in this searing heat. I kept thinking, isn’t it PRECISELY like last year? These were the days between the first sacking and restoration, between March 9 and July 20th. If the lawyers destroyed Mush’s credibility then, they can certainly do it now.
I am really hoping for some ugly confrontation so that the PPP-Q can be completely exposed. A Long March to really test the nerves of Rehman Malik will be just the thing the lawyers need. The Public Sympathy will be with the lawyers, NS and IK even more if they focus on the economic crunch. The PPP-Q will surely help destroy their own image within the Jiyalas with Zardari’s protocol, Mercedez, new corruption scandals etc…
The Q era is not a distant memory and it is easier to label PPP as the new Q while the iron is hot.. A significant period of time between the Q and PPP-Q will enable Zardari to further strengthen his hold on power. The time is now. NS really needs to make some dama dam qalandar. Especially since they have the excuse of Salman Taseer now….I wouldn’t be surprised if Ch. Nisar’s ballistic press conference was a prelude to EXACTLY this order of battle.
Asia Time’s report on Pakistan “Enlightened Moderation”
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In Pakistan, a dark trade comes to light
…..”Rumors abound online that female TV stars and actresses can be hired for sex. “You can get film stars for 50,000 to 100,000 rupees but you need good contacts for that,” one blogger wrote after a trip to Lahore.
“…..
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JE17Df02.html
“Muhtaaj Qaum” to become even more dependet.
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USA offers installing mobile power plant at Karachi
porthttp://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?200531
@mbokhari
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NS really needs to make some dama dam qalandar.
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O paa jee! asee tay pailaaN ee kaih ditta si.. as soon as the watching of the interview of the Nawaz of the Sharif 2 of the days ago!
Nawaz Sharif said, and I quote “Meray 4 din unkay saath achchay guzray haiN” and he called this pco judges with real judges “Munaafiqat”
E’laan-e jaNg to usi din ho gaya thaa baaQi sab khanah puri hai.. but I think they’re thinking a non-street game.
@TK
I am not so sure about the non-street game and its success. We have to concede one thing: The longer the judges stay deposed, the harder it is going to get to bring them back to the bench. I think the hearty protest marches post March 9 were more due to a sense of moral outrage and shock than to the finer points of Law.
I fear we have gotten over that shock. Like the beGhairat nation that we are, we have accepted that and soon it will be harder to rile up the masses to wait for IMC as he drives from ISB to Lahore like before. Thats what the game plan of PPP traitors is, exactly true as Mushahid called it, the Zia Response. Essentially, prevaricating on an issue until the cows come home.
I just read this article by Aftab Iqbal in Nawai Waqt and he says N and Q are planning a merger to forestall any decapitation moves by Mush. He thinks the Chaudhry brothers will publicly apologize to NS and support the Restoration of Judiciary.
Ever since Ch. Nisar’s press conference, this N plus Q is looking more and more like the rational response to PPP plus Musharraf. I think NS has a choice to make. If he gets Q on board, he will have short term benefits. He will get to keep Punjab and may even capture the Center. He may be able to get rid of Musharraf and restore the judges. But the long term blowback will be horrendous. He will lose all his moral superiority and PPP will assume again the mantle of Shahadat.
If NS ditches Q overtures, he stands to gain a windfall of public sympathy and may get 2/3rd again whenever the elections are held. But the downside of this Long War will be, the judges restoration will become even more unlikely.
I don’t envy the pressure N people must be. To fuqq PPP over by merging with their bette noire, the Q guys. Or, to do a long term suicide bombing on PPP with the prospect of a Jannat where only N exists and both Q and PPP have been obliterated.
hmmmm….
Actually, I think the only viable way for PML-N is to get Q on side. If they can. Mushahid Hussain could help out in this regard.
If Zardari can sit with Altaf Chooran Wala, then I say to NS, FUGGIT! Bring Q on-board with an oath to CoD and commitment to judges issue.
They are natural allies.
@TK
Ugh…I said precisely that but my long comment is in moderation…..infamy!!!
Karachi land scam officer receives death threats
ISLAMABAD: The Estate Officer of Pakistan, Sher Afzal Khan, who had unearthed the Rs 450 billion scam of government properties in Karachi, is now facing serious threats to his life.
“On one occasion, I was directly threatened by one politician, who on May 15 repeated his threat through his private secretary, who visited me in my office, with dire consequences. Even today, I received a message from the TCS company that eight shipments had been delivered to some destinations and my cell number had been written on the packets.
Since I had sent no shipment to anyone, I called the TCS who informed me that these shipments had been sent to the president of Pakistan, the prime minister, the chairman Senate, Senator Babar Awan, Senator Mohammad Ali Brohi, Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Senator Maulana Samiul Haq. I have sent no shipment to the above noted persons and the move appears to be an act of harassment. I very well know the forces of evil who are after me, particularly the politician who has himself passed threats to me and I have informed my family members and my tribesmen about these individuals and for any wrong that may be done to me, these people will be responsible.”
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Teendoo mentality at its worse. It’s the same from Chooran Devi down to the lowly thugs in shiitholes like Ranchore Lines.
@mbokhari: GRREEAT!!! Now I look like captain obvious! oooh boy!
I guess we were on the same track.. interesting. Could it be that the road to Islamabad Goes thru Gujrat?
IF that she-dog Anne Patterson starts meeting with the mumble-brothers.. then you know we’re on the right track.. that should happen within a day or so hehehe
@mbokhari: dude I said that without even reading anything…I guess it’s become so obvious now.. as the only alternative to street-protest which no-one really wants.. even the lawyers are prolly hoping they don’t have to do this ahageeen!
You see, this was the whole point in the delaying tactic.. to stall the lawyers until it was godawful hot!! (or could be that Zardari is a douche? .. take ur pick)
@TK
Looks like N and Q wont be getting together after all. Shujaat has publicly endorsed Governor Taseer and is now trying to mend fences with Musharraf.
Poor NS. Poor Lawyers. Poor Judges. Poor Pakistan.
We didn’t deserve IMC. Who let the D0ggar out? Who? Who?
Us, it seems.
The only reason I’m suspicious of a “Tehreek” is because JI is in it… Everytime these DOUCHES are supporting a “cause” it ends up anu$-furging the Nation.
So, I say, do whatever the hell Jamat Islami is telling you to do. May the force be with you!
Because people can tell me “Qazi is a cute little teddy bear, and Jamaat is Shooo Noiche now!”
Lekin, Main naa maanooN kiraaRi kaa naam Ghulaam Fatima!
aaaaaaaaargh!
“So, I say, do whatever the hell Jamat Islami is telling you to do. May the force be with you!”
should read
So, I say, do THE OPPOSITE OF whatever the hell Jamat Islami is telling you to do. May the force be with you!
@mbokhari:
“Ekla Cholo ray!”
I say Fugg all them niggiz! For once someone should fight for a principle in this land before it is smashed to bits by it’s enemies.
Finally some piece of good news about Pakistan. This is by Khaled AlMaeena who is a Saudi journalist and sort of an expert on Pakistan. He speaks fluent Urdu.
Pakistan Revisited — VI: A Time for Reflection
On the day of our departure for Jeddah, with our bags packed and goodbyes dispensed with, our group found itself together at the coffee shop of the hotel. There each one of us talked about whether this trip had changed our opinions of Pakistan and its people.
with more than 100 universities and 150 research institutes, Pakistan produces 100,000 engineering graduates annually, and another 100,000 technically trained graduates.
More than 50 foreign companies have set up R&D facilities in Pakistan recently. Some of these include multinationals such as GE, DuPont, Bell Labs, IBM and Microsoft. In the business of automobiles, Pakistan manufactures and sells engine components to five of the world’s largest manufacturers. Suzuki and Hyundai are recent entrants to the manufacturing buzz in Pakistan setting up full-fledged plants, with Pakistan taking its rank as the ninth largest automobile manufacturer in the world.
nawaz sharif was the chief guest in the recent launch of salman taseer’s urdu newspaper….!!!
cmn’ ppl stop decieving the poor illiterate people of Pakistan. ….u all r chorr… chorr n chorr.. this is all topi drama from u ………….
Million Dollar Question!!!
What is the difference between PML(Q) and PPP?
In the current politics, it is just two parties with difference in names. Both have Musharraf as the chief head. Shujaat has been replaced by Zardari.
Rest of the analogies you could develop yourself.
One says Parha Likha Punjab and the other says Karkun Shaeed Bhutto Roti Kapra Makan
Both got support of JUI(F) and MQM
I think the difference is only support of ANP. I think it will change soon as well.
@tanweer, it is hard for most of drawing room politician to understand between PPP and PMLQ or PMLN..
I will try to make some sense for you their are two parties in Pakistan since 1970 one PPP and other is establishment. PMLN PMLQ, MQM, IJI, JUI, JI are all part establishment. This has to be appriciate that NS cheque come from Bank of America, through its branch in Saudi Arabia.
“Karachi land scam officer receives death threats”:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112982
Is there a need to have the justice system protect people who reveal these types of scams against the mighties? Not in the dictionary of Zardari the snake.
“PPP MNA tells strongman Zardari to restore judges”
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112978
I give kudos to Nasreen Chaudhry, MNA from Multan, for telling Zardari the snake on his face that the judges need to be restored.
BTW, AA is frustrating the heck out of me. I am so close to start calling him a wuss. He can not have it both ways. He needs to make a decision on which side he is. Otherwise, he will loose all the respect that he has gained. I am also tired of his same rant on every TV program about Moshe KKB (Kutti Ka Bachcha) that how he is an illegal president and that how he sent those 60 judges home with the stroke of a pen. Oh, we get it, now what? Are you going to do something about Zardari’s tripple-standard politics or not. At least have the courage to pass right comments on what he has been doing.
@kinnare
This seems to be your favourite phrase … there are two parties … blah blah blah … yatti yatti yatta.
Try to reason with logic and not with cliches.
@TK
“So, I say, do THE OPPOSITE OF whatever the hell Jamat Islami is telling you to do. May the force be with you!”
Haha…Reminds me of that old Seinfeld episode where George decides to do exactly opposite of what he has been doing all his life. Works out just fine for him. I remember he flipped back to his old self but I don’t remember why.
I think NS has great potential to be a revolutionary. He could be what IK could never be and what Qazi has wet dreams of being. It won’t be a problem even with Qazi on board as the lawyers will cancel the Qazi out…::-)
Nawaz Sharif has been doing ‘ekla cholo re’ in pursuit of principles ever since he came back. I hope that he ignores the terror of the thunder, the darkness of the night and ignites his heart with the lightning of our suffering and walk in its light.
Ekla Cholo re. Nawaz Sharif, you have Tagore’s blessings.
@mbokhari
“More than 50 foreign companies have set up R&D facilities in Pakistan recently. Some of these include multinationals such as GE, DuPont, Bell Labs, IBM and Microsoft. In the business of automobiles, Pakistan manufactures and sells engine components to five of the world’s largest manufacturers. Suzuki and Hyundai are recent entrants to the manufacturing buzz in Pakistan setting up full-fledged plants, with Pakistan taking its rank as the ninth largest automobile manufacturer in the world.”
But what good is ANY of it if brings no benefit to the people of Pakistan (except a tiny segment)? Reminded me of the documentary on Nike that showed that though supplying the world with shoes, most of their factory workers can not afford shoes them selves.
@nota
I guess you are talking about the whole sweatshop, capitalist pig thing. I agree. Outsourcing and globalisation of labor has led to exploitation and unfair trade. But still, these enterprises have tertiary benefits that trickle down to the poorest. The factories provide at least survival wages. The MNC’s keep the engine of economy humming. More people can afford atta, medicines and banaspati ghee.
But, anyway, take this guy with a pinch of salt. He is not a real journalist. No Saudi journalists are real journalists, they are just hacks hired to be mouthpieces of the police state.
What is real and actual exploitation in Pakistan is price fixing, hoarding and speculation in real estate, currency and stock exchanges. Thats the “dribble down” theory of Stephen Colbert. The fatcats gobble up all resources, some of the crumbs and juices dribble down their beards where the poor cling to tbe beard, climb up and slobber up the dribbled nutirtion….
The good Sharif:
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112995
Battleground Punjab:
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112990
Managing a coalition:
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112993
It’s amazing to see PPP getting exposed allover in the media, and now people of Pakistan are aware where PPP stands. And I think PPP is mistaken just like Q-league that whatever the media may say, people won’t give a damn about it, and they can continue with their hypocrisy.
Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan Tariq AzizudDin has been released after 96 days.
lawyers march 10 june??..can someone throw light on why they have given this 23 day gap period?? are ‘they’ trying to fizzle it out…give time to ppp-z…whats the logic behind this particular date? who is asif ali zardari to instruct the law minister (to pay the deposed judges?) what a bloody sham? YRG…shove your PMship up your ppp-ZIT !!
@kafka8
I was afraid of this. Dare I say it has to do with Aittzaz being a jiyala first?
YRG is off to Egypt to meet his masters at the WEF and share a drink with Hosni so doubt he will be listening.
@kafka8: that _is_ thuthpithious! maybe they are giving them time to do this in the budget session? Could also be that AA is trying to do AAZ a favor… ?? like he did when he told people to “forget may12″ … You see, now it seems he already knew Zardaro’s tack so he was starting to smooth out the lawyer’s resistance to it.. months in advance..
anyways.. I don’t want to malign AA too much.. but I sometimes get a whiff of opportunist-ambition from his side too which kind of startles me.. but then everything is hunkey-dorey for a few more weeks..
P.S Zardari has already started to refer to the govt. as “Meri GuvminT” ,”Ham Hukm deNgay” etc… YRG is a rubberstamp.. I wish he really _was_ the PM with the powers… wouldn’t that be great.. a half decent guy with the power to govern instead of reptiles incharge?
Hussain Haqqani defends Unkle Sam:
http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20080517/Sub_Images/1100408208-1.gif
Does a bear sh!t in the woods?
@kafka8
Just wanted to add:
Aitzaz reminds me of US presidents / presidential candidates who are only fully committed to one thing: “UNCONDITIONAL support to Israel.”
@TK and NOTA
ah…Aitezaz !! prove our fears wrong…!
NikhaTToo Jurnails worth 500 MILLION DOLLARS Each!
The common soldier doesn’t even get proper pension:
http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20080517/Sub_Images/1100408456-2.gif
Just wait till these soldiers join the rest of the bhukka naNgaa’s of Pakistan.
@TK
“Hussain Haqqani defends Unkle Sam:”
Man you should have heard the 2 minute advert GEO did on Haqqani disguised as news on GEO News last night. It went something like:
“Haqqani is the best ambassador Pakistan could have appointed, said Senator X. Senator Y said it does not matter who wins election in US as Haqqani has great relationship with both. Senator Kennedy sais Haqqani is very smart and intelligent and can express himself eloquently. Senator Z said Pakistan has nothing to worry since Haqqani is there……” and it went on and on and on. It was so bl**dy ridiculous.
(sorry I just remember the name Kennedy)
@nota
i saw that too….GEO can be downright shameless at times….nay, is shameless most of the times. Hamid mir…and Shahid masood are rare exceptions. i think the article was in Washington Post.
isn’t VOA carried on GEO too…wonder how much GEO makes on that cockabull per-ad-vert ?
“Hussain Haqqani defends Unkle Sam:”
Please for God’s sake, spare him.
He is only performing his duties whole heartedly.
@tk and nota
and with the coming of muck, it can only get muckier!! mucking mhit!
@nota: “you should have heard the 2 minute advert GEO did on Haqqani disguised as news on GEO News last night”
I guess this was to make up for the drubbing he got from that hack Dr. Shahid Masood!
@mbokhari
“I think NS has great potential to be a revolutionary.”
Lol….We have had many potential Che Guevara’s, Fidel Castro’s etc. but unfortunately whenever they had the possibility the screwed up all the chances to deliver what is required. The oppressed people of Pakistan has just been left gaping almost each and every time. I agree that NS and his second string has had the right STATEMENTS, but what is required is the RIGHT ACTIONS, when you have power. In my opinion it is too early to say whether NS has changed himself to a real democrat or he is just another AZ waiting for his part of the cake.
All the talk about a merger between N and Q is also worrying since it is only a short term solution i.e. like p!ssing in the pants to keep warm. I would advice for long term solutions to break the back of parties like PPP-Q, but for that NS may have to wait for next elections. The question is he able to control himself and other politicians from the party to be patient? Maybe they need someone else as a leader to have such patient work. I would much rather see a man like JV as the spearhead for PML-N.
Btw I don’t think the next elections are too far away. If PML-N can hold it’s nerves then they will be able to form a formidable alliance with PTI to crush all the political wh0res.
/Saqib
@nota:
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US presidents / presidential candidates who are only fully committed to one thing: “UNCONDITIONAL support to Israel.”
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OT, but it boggles my mind.. how did the Jews in america accomplish this? while the arabs/muslims have just managed to look slightly better than child molesters? (the population sizes are not that different .. the Jews have been here longer .. but really.. what’s the geedaR singhi?)
I know the mullah types say “kufur is ummat-e wahid” but really.. has anyone studied as to what makes the Jews “Tick” ?? … in _any_ society.
be it
Egyptions
Greeks
Romans
Muslims
Christians
Modern Europe..
United States..
There is something to study and research here. What makes the US Presidents turn into little b!tches in front of only one group?
@TK
I think it has been studied more than enough but those who do are side-lined as crazies and “anti-semites”….
@TK anf others
Did I miss the press conference of Aitezaz and lawyers convention OR te news channels has decided not to provide TV coverage. I noticed GEO was running ticker about long march, while AAJ was showing that dumb Rehman Malik conference.
Without media coverage lawyers movement can definitely be toned down.
@Saqib:
“I would advice for long term solutions to break the back of parties like PPP-Q, ”
Although I agree with your general sentiment, I think Q or any other Lota Parties are an emergent phenomenon based on the Feudal mindset and injustice that exists in the society.
The only thing that has and can break Q’s be they PPP or PML would be the rising level of awareness in the population (and education)…
Otherwise, these very same people will just make another party and call it somethingelse-Q or F or J or whatever..
@nota:
Oh yeah.. forgot about that… but you know that itself is part of the “network” that acts in unison while appearing to be ‘co-incidental and non-connected”
hmmm ..
Nazir Naji is a true SOB. In todays Pachas Minute on geo, he is spewing out venom against PML-N and lawyers.
@Admin,
Based on what we are seeing of Aitezaz Ahsen recently, I would suggest that you open a topic on something like “Is AA still sincere to the lawyers cause” or something along these lines.
One caller in Bolta Pakistan had hoped/wished, based on the decoits’ burning incident in Karachi, when these politicians who have done nothing but weaken the country would meet the same fate. Moshe KKB (Kutti Ka Bachcha) should be the first in line along with a few four star generals, followed by the likes of Zardari the snake, lotas from Q league, Maulana Diesel, and the list goes on.
BTW, it is my opinion that this reptile Zardari’s GUDDI will not stay that high for too long. He is just a pawn or a little piece in the larger game plan of US, UK, Moshe KKB and the our army brass. He will meet his well deserved fate in the future at the hand of the same people who he is trying to give a safe passage.
Ayaz Amir: “A country in the grip of small men”
http://www.thenews.com.pk/arc_news.asp?id=9
Ayaz Amir is changing his tone slowly and it is quite evident from his recent articles:
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Whatever their differences on the judges’ issue there are other issues on which they are in broad agreement. The popular mood is ugly and is getting desperate. Except for the very well-off, everyone else is feeling the impact of inflation.
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@Amir Hameed:
I think so too.. To get a sense of how Umreeka Bahadur treats its slaves, check out final moments of their maha-b!tches, Mr. Saddam himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBF8p9lsAb0&feature=related
Those who live like Dogs, deserve to die like dogs at the hands of their foreign masters.
Shireen Mazari Sacked by Haqqani and friend on 15 minute notices
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112973
@Amir Hameed: ur link is broken
“Is Zardari a leech or a parasite?
A PML sympathizer asked this question and was thence trashed on being so base and mean.
“Is Sharif corrupt or hypocrite?”
The Jiyala in turn asked this question and was thence trashed on being so base and mean.
and then kali matia said ..jo altaf ka ghaddar hai…woh maut ka haqdar hai….and thence another kali matia burnt him alive.
@muchng: I’m waiting for you to bestow your pearls of wisdom regarding one Altaf Chooran Wala upon us mere mortals.
@TK,
Here is the complete aricle from Amir Ayaz. The link was part of the back issues and for some reason was not pointing correctly:
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A country in the grip of small men
Friday, May 16, 2008
By Ayaz Amir
Just last week I was saying (or was it opining?) that this coalition would endure. Well, that wasn’t analysis; it was the triumph of hope over reality. I was expressing a wish and making the wish sound like a profound appraisal of the national situation. It has taken just a week–a long time in politics, didn’t Harold Wilson say?–for my enduring coalition to come unstuck, or at least under strain, with PML-N ministers walking out of the federal cabinet on the judges’ issue. So much for wishful thinking.
Somehow happiness doesn’t last very long in our climate. The euphoria sparked by the Feb 18 election has already evaporated. The people of Pakistan voted for change. What they are getting is more of the same. Somehow we just can’t manage things. Getting things right politically, ensuring stability, focusing on basic issues ailing the nation seem beyond the capability of our political or governing classes.
The people proved, not for the first time, their acute sense of political judgment, giving a thrashing long to be remembered to the stalwarts, symbols and pillars of the Musharraf order. But what are they getting for their pains? The political leadership, all its leading lights throwbacks to an earlier era, is failing to measure up to popular expectations. While the wisdom of the Pakistani people stands vindicated, the inadequacy of the political leadership stands exposed.
This is not a conscious betrayal of popular expectations; it is a betrayal by default, brought about by shallowness and opportunism of the worst kind. We always knew that the political leadership was inadequate and that it would have to show exceptional wisdom and maturity to get the transition from authoritarianism to democracy right this time. But that it would show signs of stress and failure so soon comes as a surprise even for hardened pessimists. The people of Pakistan are being prepared for another lesson in higher cynicism.
When the country needed, above anything else, calm and stability, it is being pushed into another round of uncertainty and instability. The exploration of new allies for the PPP government at the centre has already started while in Punjab various horses and forward blocs (always a sign of danger) are out in the field, sizing up different options and conjuring up various permutations of change.
My all-time favourite intriguer, someone in a class of his own, is friend and National Assembly colleague, Mian Manzoor Wattoo. There is a new glint in his eyes these days. Indeed, all those who thrive in a climate of intrigue–and there is no shortage of this kind in the lush political fields of Punjab–have come alive all of a sudden. The people of Pakistan be damned; the political elite is bracing itself for exciting times.
Even the projected appointment as Punjab governor of Salmaan Taseer (congratulations Salmaan for finally making it up the greasy pole) is a pointer to what may be brewing in the minds of the PPP leadership. It would be surprising if appointing a sharp one like him to this position at this juncture is just an accident. Remember Governor Altaf Hussain and the role he played in the Punjab crisis of mid-1993? Together with Manzoor Wattoo, who earned his political spurs during that tumultuous interlude, Governor Altaf engineered the downfall of the PML-N government in Punjab. Governor Taseer is not being appointed to count the trees in the Governor’s House.
Will Taseer be up to the task? I have my doubts (although like my fond prediction of the enduring-ness of the federal coalition I could be wrong yet again). Altaf had a feel for Punjab politics which Taseer, a drawing room champion, may lack. All the same, Mark Antony comes to mind. Having worked up the Roman mob after Caesar’s killing, what does he say? “Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot, Take thou what course thou wilt.” Exaggeration? Perhaps, but not far off the mark considering that the post-election euphoria has already given way to a sense of foreboding.
Part of the problem was us, the Pakistani people, looking for heroes where none existed. We put exaggerated hopes in Asif Zardari who was pulled centre-stage after the assassination of his wife, Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto. We withheld judgment and gave him an extended period of grace, shutting our eyes to the fact that he had skeletons in his cupboard and his past made him a hostage if not to fortune at least to unfolding events. So even though banal phrases played on his lips we gave him the benefit of the doubt by reading in them the cadences of the statesman who existed only in our imagination.
Now reality is coming home to roost and we are dismayed. Zardari was never going to be instrumental in restoring the judges. He made his intent loud and clear to whoever talked to him in private. But in public he spoke with what now can only be called a forked tongue and Nawaz Sharif believed him or pretended to believe him. But Nawaz Sharif had little choice. He could not restore the judges on his own and as he had gone out on a limb on this issue–even requiring PML-N candidates before the election to take an oath for their restoration–he had no choice except to believe, or pretend to believe, Zardari’s honeyed assurances.
But too many deals were involved, too many assurances given to third-party mediators or interlocutors. For being able to make a bid for power, the PPP and Zardari were beholden to the United States in large measure and even to Pervez Musharraf in a limited sense. The reprieve or pardon that Zardari received via that piece of hilarious comedy, the National Reconciliation Ordinance, was part of the understandings arrived at between the concerned parties much before the people of Pakistan delivered their verdict on Feb 18.
So how was Zardari a free agent? And if he wasn’t that it was foolish to invest high hopes in him regarding the restoration of the judges. The triumphant return of My Lord Iftikhar Chaudhry to the Supreme Court, to national applause, was just not part of the agreed scenario. The PML-N’s mistake lies in not giving due importance to this circumstance. It believed the honeyed assurances when there were enough grounds to be sceptical and, consequently, cautious.
Zardari counters by urging ‘pragmatism’ (in Pakistan often near-cousin to hypocrisy) because he says it is not the struggle of the Pakistani people but the role of outside powers (for which read the United States) which has been vital in Pakistan’s transition to democracy. He is right up to a point. The United States put pressure on Musharraf to take off his uniform. That is what undercut his position because if he had still been army chief he would have been in a better position to influence the elections.
But Zardari is wrong in not giving enough credit to judicial resistance and the lawyers’ movement, the real factors which weakened Musharraf and made him look a stricken figure in western eyes. Musharraf’s unravelling began on March 9 last year when My Lord Chaudhry stood up to him. Everything else followed. A weakened Musharraf was more susceptible to American pressure. A strong Musharraf could have insisted on his original game plan of holding elections while still in uniform.
Zardari thus may be beholden to America but he forgets the obligation he and his party owe to the Pakistani people, the judges who confronted Musharraf and the lawyers who kept the flames of resistance alive throughout 2007.
But enough of carping. Whether anyone likes it or not, Asif Zardari and Nawaz Sharif are the key players on the national scene and the task of steadying the nation’s ship and warding off the ghosts of uncertainty and instability devolve upon their shoulders. Whatever their differences on the judges’ issue there are other issues on which they are in broad agreement. The popular mood is ugly and is getting desperate. Except for the very well-off, everyone else is feeling the impact of inflation. We are in for a long, hot summer in any case. The last thing Pakistan needs is another round of open or surreptitious political warfare.
Email: chakwal@comsats.net.pk
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@ ALL except kinnare
Leave kinnare alone coz he is too dumb. He does not make any sense. His info is incorrect. He thinks and believes that crow is white and not black and that is his firm position. For example you tell him that PML WAS IN SOLID FORM WHEN PPP WAS NOT EVEN IN ITS LIQUID FORM. But he will disagree with you. He will say 1970 PPP came into being so PPP is the oldest party. He says1970 means older than 1947. So you see we cannot argue with him. HIS CROW IS WHITE.
I HAVE ASKED HIM SO MANY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER WITH REASONS BUT HE NEVER USED A REASON. On the other hand, he start saying NS check comes from Bank of America via Saudia and if you ask him for the source of his info or evidence then he starts saying something else. I thought might he works for NS to bring his money from BOA to saudia and then to NS.
“Is Altaf Hussain a Bhai or Don”
Both Jiyala and PML worker were gunned down. These workers might not have this fate, had they known that AH is a Ter******
@TK
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….Mazari clearly told him that her sacking was because of her independent views that had upset the US camp, which was dictating to the PPP government…..
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A well-planned purge process is being carried out by the fokking servants of the US. Mazari was one of the vocal critics of the US policies and it is of no surprise that she was asked to leave in a humiliated manner. Haqqani has been given a list of tasks by his US masters and he will execute them to their wishes.
You know how we relate black sheeps and moles to “Mir Jaffer”; I wonder if it is time to change this analagy because if we look around, we will see many who have clearly surpassed the then “Mir Jaffar”.
@BABU
LOL
I am going to log out guys. Allah Hafiz.
REAL QUESTION
“Is Altaf Hussain a Goat or a Hindu Goddess?”
Tough Question.
@dmin
anything being uploaded anytime soon??
@mbokhari,
This is an easy one. Altaf Hussain is the reincarnation of a Hindu goddess in the shape of a goat.
I hope that Lawyers would march toward GHQ in Rawalpindi and not toward parlaiment to weaken the parliament.
Ayaz Amir is another hater of PPP he was part and parcel of Establishment.
@ Kinnare
Its a news for me that Ayaz Amir was part n parcel of Establishment and he is a PPP hater.
Please do give me a reference or apologise and feel ashamed for telling lies.
Now for your information, his father Amir Khan was MNA from chakwal on PPP ticket in 1970.
@kinnare
The parliment has no powers, thanks to the fokking reptile, Zardari, and the likes of him for strengthening the Establishment. And Yes, we know that there are two political parties in Pakistan… blah blah blah …. yatti yatti yatta.
And, yes, those who criticize PPP must be PPP haters and not because they have some brain that they use from time to time. PPP is part of establishment now.
@amir Hameed, I think you are wrong PPP is not part of establishment and will newer be. If Parliment has now power it is not because of PPP but the reason is seventeen amendment. which was done with the help of JI JUI and other People inthe parlaiment of that time.
I do not mind if some one criticize PPP, but the fact remain what it is. PPP media trail start as soon as PPP comes to government this nothing new I am looking this for last forfty years.
@GM, Ayaz Amir was in Pakistan Army.
admin…any new ones for the viewing..sire?
Latest News..
Manzoor wattoo appointed as Advisor to Prime Minister
@GM
“Manzoor wattoo appointed as Advisor to Prime Minister”
A big slap for kinnare like peoples. Keep it PPP show us your real face, don’t be shy ,you still have supporters, right Kinnare sir?
@savage, Thank you for title. HA HA HA
@GM and Kinara
I know ayaz amir from university time .yes he was in the army but was inducted in civil service by bhutto government .he was third secretary in russia when his father a PPP mna from chakwal was murdered .later he did his master in .He is any thing but pro establishment . He was part PSF in his university time .he is considered the most progressive thought and hates the religious parties
@TK
“Shireen Mazari Sacked by Haqqani and friend on 15 minute notices
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=112973”
So I was right
Here is my post from 3 days ago:
nota on May 14th, 2008 9:46 am
Shireen Mazari removed from Institute of Strategic Studies.
No surprise there since her latest articles were pointing finger at U.S. So I guess U.S. State Dept told Haqqani who told Qureshi who obliged.
Another feather in the cap of PPP for Jiyalas to be proud of.
Fixed link to A country in the grip of small men
this bit about shireen mazari is odd….she is supposedly part of the ‘establishment’ …you dont get to be Director ISS without ;connections’
that the umreeki face of the establishment has an upper hand is obvious, but how long will the ‘other’ one stay dormant.???
Shireen Mazari is part of the establishment–her father was an MNA.
Her brother worked as a DC in the bureaucracy.
It is only during the last few years that they did not get their “DUE” share in the plunder and that led her to write against Uncle Sam.
@muchng
According to pejamistri and the News she certainly was getting her right share…
@Kinnare
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If Parliment has now power it is not because of PPP but the reason is seventeen amendment. which was done with the help of JI JUI and other People inthe parlaiment of that time.
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Huh! dude, if what you were trying to say was that the powers were given to the presedent by JUI-F in the form of 17th ammendment and not by PPP then you are right. BUT, how would you explain: a) PPP in bed with the same Fazlu who had bestowed this “meharbani” on the nation? b) Now that PPP is in a position to do something about it because of support from PML-N and the civil society is also willing to back it up if it does the right thing then why is this reptile Zardari’s legs shaking and instead of doing the right thing he is also in bed with Moshe? Care to explain it? Look around and you will see how those who were not even elected by the masses are running the show. Care to explain why?
@nota
She deserved much more than a mere pennies— $130 K is nothing much for these sharks. She was knew too much for being just offered a paltry 130 K.
She wanted deers not mere chickens.
admin…any hint on whats to come tonight and when?
Slaman Taseer’s Son Dressed up as Captain Cond0m
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http://www.newsindia-times.com/nit/2005/01/21/wedding-26top.html
Lady Ella Gabriella, daughter of Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, and an aspiring journalist, is planning to marry her Indian boyfriend Aatish Taseer, a trainee reporter for Time magazine in London, according to news reports.
Lady Gabriella, 23, the 30th in line to the British throne, met Taseer when she was studying Spanish and English literature at Brown University in the United States and he was at Amherst College, Massachusetts, working part-time as a segxual health campaigner dressing up as ‘Captain Cond0m.’
Lady Gabriella, 23, the 30th in line to the British throne, met Taseer when she was studying Spanish and English literature at Brown University, Rhode Island, and he was at Amherst College, Massachusetts.
Taseer, 24, who was born in Mumbai, is the son of Salman Taseer, a Muslim from Pakistan, and noted journalist Tavleen Singh.
“Prince and Princess Michael of Kent will announce that their elegant 23-year-old daughter is to marry Aatish early this year,” The Sunday Telegraph was quoted as saying.
The Prince and the Princess are both Catholics but they have no problem with Taseer who, although born of a Muslim father, is said to be a practicing Sikh. In fact, the Princess, who considers Taseer as one of the most handsome young men, has been quoted in newspapers as saying she would have no objection if Prince Williams married a Muslim girl. The Prince and Princess had reportedly flown earlier to meet Taseer’s mother in New Delhi, reports said.
The couple are likely to live in India after Taseer’s stint as a trainee in London gets over.
“I will be heading back to India to pursue my career,” Taseer was quoted as saying in The Times of India. “The opportunities in media out there are excellent and I am determined to give it a go. I have lived here in London and in New York, but Delhi is where I am from and where I want to be,” he told the newspaper.
@nota
but she stood up when moshe began to sell off pakistan bit by bit…
i think i saw her taking part in the lawyers march too.
@kafka8
Exactly. Must say I was surprised by her latest stand and so not surprised by her firing. That is why when i heard about it, the first thing that popped into my head was “Haqqani did it!”
@Kruman
“Taseer who, although born of a Muslim father, is said to be a practicing Sikh”
One could say:
“Salman who, although born of a Muslim father, is said to be a Sick mofo”
@nota
there should be a “people to watch’ list ….and haqqani should be on it.
@kafka8
“there should be a “people to watch’ list ….and haqqani should be on it.”
He’s been on my watch list for years
Shiren Mazari is the dauhter of Bikh shir Mazari and a white mother .No doubt his father is fedual but also the brother of shir baz khan mazari.
Again she represents the progressive forces not the feudal forces .
Million Dollar question put by Ayaz Amir at the end of ‘Pachaas Minute’
Only one person took the cases of poor people in the highest court of Pakistan, and that hero is finding it difficult to find justice for himself by a high mandate party.
I am unable to copy it since it was put in a better way.
Justice is the biggest issue. And if Zardari is not here in Pakistan because of NRO or any under-table deal he should be brave enough to face all cases in the true court.
@ admin
Will you be uploading today’s “50 Minutes” sooner or later..?
nazir naji is epitome of yellow journalism.
@sota
Shirin Mazari ….is she daughter of Balkh Mazari or Aashiq Mazari???
@Tanweer Amjad, can you name the CJ who allow General of Pakistan Army to rule over the country and make amemdment in constitution.
Shahid Kinnare
@kinnare
Can you name a CJ who said NO to an army dictator which had never happened in the history of this country. Can you name a CJ who took up cases of missing persons?
Ask yourself, why is CJ so popular? Has any CJ ever became so popular?
“Smiling all the way, Chaudhrys outsmart Musharraf, Nisar”
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=113275
Interesting.
A shocking article in Expess
AA stands up!! gives up his ticket for NA55!
Hey…!!! The Documents Section has a lot of goodies in it now! wow! Thanks @dmin and whomever put this list together!
http://pkpolitics.com/documents/
@tk
you watching AA mate? feel rejuvenated..over here.
@ ALL>> Kinnare CROW IS STILL WHITE AND WILL REMAIN WHITE UNTIL HE HIMSELF OWN HIS EYES AND MIND. HE NEVER DARE TO ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.
First he raised the question that CJ was corrupt and when I confronted him with this that if CJ was really a corrupt person then why mush with all his power along with Zalil A.G and Khabees haramzada could not prove CJ a corrupt person in SC. But he still calls them corrupt. So he keep insisting that crow is white and not black.
I told him already Fazlu the big fat lota have helped mush with 17th. ammendment. YA SHAYEED HI KINNARE LAGGA.
Holy Jumping Batman! TK….
That’s what we need in the documents section. Could it be nota? or perhaps @dmin himself…
Thanks…and please keep adding more stuff.
i MEANT>>>>OPEN HIS EYES AND MIND
@kafka8: TK is standing up, applauding AA’s actions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U04ZSXyfH3k
Wake UP!! B!tches! The Time is NOW!
@mbokhari: Come on! take a bow.. (maybe not yet..) Admin needs to get @nota in the loop too…
I need that Tarikh-Al-Tabari! Dang it!!!
Arts and Litrature needs more love!
Thanks Admin!
One of the Forgotten Pakistatni Heroes. Lets start to appriciate them.
Prof Asghar Sodai’s verse “Pakistan Ka Matlab Kia – La Ilaha Illallah” became the central slogan of the Pakistan Movement which was read by every Muslim of the Subcontinent and became the basis of the country.
Hes passed away yesterday living a very simple & modest life. I happened to see him once. He was very down to earth person that I can never forget. May Allah rest his soul in peace. Ameen
@Asif, I am sorry but I would like to state the facts about creation of Pakistan. First, Pakistan was not made for Islam. Actually Ulema of India were totally against creation of Pakistan. Mohammad Ali Jinnah was called Kafir. and their was a big resistance toward the creation of Pakistan. As every thing is lie from the establishment people Prof Asghar Sodai verse was not creat until after creation of Pakista
@ Kinnare
i totally disagree with u. u r always here for ur irrational comments and far from reality and facts.
It is NOT true that ulema of India were against creation of Pakistan.
Only Mulla of a certain faction were against and those Munafiq Mullas are the first Love of ur beloved zardari (Mulla fazlu).
Infact majority of muslim ulema not only supported Pakistan movement , they also had active participation in Pakistan movement. Refer to All India Sunni conference In Banaras (1946) where the resolution stated that even if Mr. Jinnah disowns the demand for an independent state for Muslims (Pakistan), we will continue this struggle.
Most of the ulemas were active members of Muslim League and MSF (like Molana abdusSattar niazi)
So please dont distort the facts. If in ur eyes hypo Mullas like Fazlu are’ulemas’, then no one can help you out.
If you want to see Yellow Journalism at it’s
bestWORST! … watch the 50 minutes of 17 May…Imtiaz Alam and Nazir Naaji have let go of _any_ sense of propriety and respect for the intelligence of the Pakistani People and are supporting the NON-Democratic agenda to the hilt!
@ TK
actually there is some difference of programme schedule (b/w UK and Pakistan)for some of GEO programmes (like Left Right and 50 Minutes). So i think it will be uploaded on Pkpolitics in cpl of days.
MARDAN: 13 people have been killed and 22 others have been injured in blast in Mardan, the reports said. The blast occurred in a bakery in PRC market of Cant area of the city, media reports said.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=45797
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It is aftermath of Bajaur missile strike, poor jawans are again at receiving end just because they are soft targets.
@ Kinnare
If you don’t know Prof Asghar Sodai, then keep your nose poking into your dears & near ones to whom ever you like, I won’t mind.
I have met with that great man & happened to spend a day with him while at an award ceremoney at a school. So keep these people away from our stagnant & stinky thinking.
Soory for any comments that appears to you be offensive.
aoa
good decision by AA to withdraw his papers from NA55.
@aftab
its a good decision but it made me worried that shiekh rasheed might win again…….can ppp or pmln still put some candidate on na 55??
The state of Mental Health Care in pakistan:
http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20080518/Sub_Images/1100408934-1.gif
Also, the state the Mental Health in Pakistan: (graphic picture)
http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20080518/Sub_Images/1100408911-1.jpg
Who are these people? and why do “educated” people accuse their enemies of “blasphemy” ?
http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20080518/Sub_Images/1100408973-1.jpg
Another paRha likha Jaahil like TeeNDoo could probably answer this question.
Pakistani Politics explained in the context of game theory.
Capital suggestion-Game theory and the PPP by Dr Farrukh Saleem
http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=113297
@atraxis
thanks for the link. great read. totally agree with the author.
aoa
which candidate will fight for NA55 any idea guys.
cont
sorry i meant from N-league
@Kinara
One of the great alam Syed Jamat ALI shah of Ali pur Saidin (Narowal District) worked for pakistan movement even when he was ill and people in those days do not have cars to go from village to village and they used charpis to take him from one village to another village because he was unable to walk .Anothe great name is Maulana Shabbir ahmed Usmani who worked very hard for pakistan movement .
While I applaud and appreciate AA’s decison to withdraw from by-elections, I still believe that he should not have opted to participate in them to begin with.
Now that he has made up his mind not to contest, he should try and make the long march as successful as possible. This may be the last chance to get all the pro-judiciary forces together because people will eventually get tired and give up after repeatedly seeing all their efforts go in vain and this is excatly what the establishment , including Moshe, PPP, PML-Q, MQM and JUI-F want to see.
Lateef Kinaare how is weather in TN, must be hot
@sota, when history talk of Ulema they mean the main stream Uleam like JI, kamal Azad, JUI Hind, etc. Even Guradian of Kaaba called Sir Syed Ahmed and Sir Sultan Mohammad Shah Kafir because ulema of Hind send a delegation to Kaaba to exclaim to theGuradian how this people are working against the nation (HInd) and Islam.
@amir Hameed, totally agree with you but one little point PPP,PMLQ, MQM,JII_F from the majoriy. And in democracy do not we have agree with majority. So that means that nation do want to restore Judges according to your logic.
@Aftab
i think Syed Zafar Ali Shah will be the candidate of PMLN.
aoa
@gm thnx never heard of the guy is he from pindi
@ aftab
Zafar ali shah is senior vice president of PMLN and he was candidate from the same constituency in 2002 elections.
MQM thug getting 1st rate treatment in USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAKso58KtEU
and then u wonder why Boucher, Negroponte and Ann Paterson are visiting him…..
@All
Look at the condition of family of Founder of Pakistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQpNGecR8rQ&feature=related
That man donated his whole property to Pakistan. His home is in Karachi at least that can be given to his family for free! We are really pathetic!
@Fahim23: It’s weird how nobody knows the “Aaga peecha” of the founder of this nation.. I’m wondering why would he donate his property to Pakistan when he had family members that needed help… Is this guy the son of Dina Jinnah? Because she lives abroad. Or is it Fatima Jinna’s son even then he’d be nephew not grandson…
leave it to our “investigative journalists” to focus on the melodrama… facts can be established anytime.
OMG!
17yrs old girl (student) raped by 60 yrs old Muallim ( molvi )
@mbokhari
I would say it did not happen, but don’t you believe in innocent until proven guilt?
@fahim23
Wow, so you are still lurking on these forums
so what are your thoughts on leader of PPP?
@kinnare
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….one little point PPP,PMLQ, MQM,JII_F from the majoriy. And in democracy do not we have agree with majority. So that means that nation do want to restore Judges according to your logic….
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Here is a little point for you as well. The nation did give mandate to these ba$tards to work for them and not to sell their souls to the devil, which is exactly what they they have done. You see, on paper, MMA (JUI-F, JI, etc.) had the mandate of people in the previous government but do you think that their sell out for the 17th ammendment was done as a representative entity of the masses? think long and hard and then try to come up with a logical answer.
ANsar Abbasi reports: “Package on judges within a fortnight”
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=14783
I support the formula that no CJ Iftakar no CJ Dogar. Complete selection of new judges who have never taken oath under PCO. This would be according to Charter of Democracy.
Hamid Mir reports: “Tension between Zardari, Shahbaz mounts over jailed chief editor”
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=14784
This coalition will not last for too long now. This also highlights the need of an independent and strong judiciary so that everyone can get justice. It also shows that how those who are friends of someone in the government have far better chances of getting released than those who do not, which is over 99% of this nation.
@amir Hameed, I never said that we have to agree with majority. But you have to respect majority.
Second, MMA what ever you so say did voted for 17thamdent rest of parlaimnet had accept it. even today it is a law which is keep MUSH in the power.
Third, PPP did not get singl vote for the restroration judge. Yes it was an issue but it was not the only issue like PMLN. For PMLN thay thoudh that they would rule the country for next five if they won the election on only one issue very sad for Pakistan.
Brig Ejaz Shah moves to Australia
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=14792
This is what they do; fock the country and then go live abroad.
@kinnare,
You said “Removal of CJ will be according to Charter of Democracy”.
Can you tell which clause of CoD says that?
@amir Hameed, that what they have been doing for last sixty years. Do you know that General of Pakistan get 250 acres of land. I ask why?know
Do you Gen Mush is Numadar of Chack 13 Bhawalpur.
@rasheed, clause 3, 3a, and 3b their are several programme that explain that.
@Kinnare,
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….with majority. But you have to respect majority….
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Have you seen the latest gallop survey that over 80% Pakistani people want the judiciary to be restored.
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Third, PPP did not get singl vote for the restroration judge….
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Yeah, this is the latest sh!t that the split-tounge reptile, Zardari, and the other NRO beneficiaries have coined recently. Why did not they say it openly as part of their stand before the elections that “restoration of judges will not be their priority”. But wait, then they would have gotten diddly in votes.
@kinnare
This is what BB and the foking Zardari did.
@kinnare
fair enough of that formula…..but nov 3rd was an illegal act n so does NRO….n if the whole setup who brings the new judges agrees that those new comin judges are totally independant and free which they have to in the presence of vibrant media now a days….the fate of the nov 3rd action n NRO will still be decided again…..would you agree on that too….
i can give you in writing ppp is scared like a little chicken head about their NRO paper work….1.2 billion dollar reportedly have been freed to use now for AZ……would he be that stupid to let Dogar court go n hav independant and free judges to come over on which all part of society agrees……
zafar ali shah from pml-n is still in contest from NA-55 n he is able to beat the sh!t out of that moron sheikh rasheed…..who truns like a little devil every now n than…
i was amazed at his statement today that i had never seen a deadline of a long march like that before…..
but if lawyers wud had given a closest date he would be the first person cryin out about oh….these are the forces who are ready for confrontation n dnt wana see democracy flourish…..the jerks like sheikh rasheed needs to be defeated on every 3 months…
like some one wins from NA-55 and resign n than sheikh rasheed fights again from there n lose until or unless he says that enough for me….
thats wt some one said on bolta pakistan long time ago…
@kinnare,
Here are all clauses from CoD that contain the word “PCO” in it:
3. (a) The recommendations for appointment of judges to superior judiciary shall be formulated through a commission, which shall comprise of the following:
i. The chairman shall be a chief justice, who has never previously taken oath under the PCO.
ii. The members of the commission shall be the chief justices of the provincial high courts who have not taken oath under the PCO, failing which the senior most judge of that high court who has not taken oath shall be the member
3. (b) No judge shall take oath under any Provisional Constitutional Order or any other oath that is contradictory to the exact language of the original oath prescribed in the Constitution of 1973.
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- The first 2 clauses are only for “commission”, not the judges themselves.
- The last clause says “SHALL”, which means “Future”. This shall be implemented from the date CoD is signed. This clause can never be considered for past, otherwise both BB or NS would have to fire the entire SC and HCs just like Musharraf did on 3rd November to implement CoD.
@econfused
dear mam…I think AZ moved sensibly and then all of sudden messed up!
I just hope and pray for better.
What PPP got through NRO is Coffin of BB.
MQM settle 2500 cases.
we dont know wheter establishment issue NRO ordinance just malign PPP. In the other we for sure know that NS did sign deal with Gen Mush. Because whole nation saw the documents.
Gallop polls are for opinion making they hold no value in Parlaiment system.
@farhan
Yeah, I remember someone saying it on Bolta Pakistan. But Sheeda Tully is so be-ghairat that he will keep contesting.
@rcasheed that what I meant that they can appoint new set of Judges. let go both Dogar Court and Iftakar Court. I do not see any harm it. It should be acceptable to all
@kinnare,
Again you are continuing your propaganda.
Only 2 documents exist related to Nawaz Sharif.
1- NS signed the agreement with Saudi Government
2- President Rafiq Tarrar pardoning Nawaz Sharif and members of his family who were not even charged with any crime.
Can you show me any reference to any other document?
imtiaz alam
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/19-05-2008/col9.htm
hamid mir
http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/19-05-2008/col6.htm
after reading these two articles and put them in accordance with recent events….one can easily get the idea who is working for the ppp media cell…..i m stayin neutral….any body put the light will be great…
Zardari screwed everyone! He took advantage of the goodwill that the nation had after the feb 18th win.
I hope this fu**er pays for his treachery.
@kinnare
Actually, what BB got was trying to deviate from the script that her masters had written for her and trying to be over-smart. Why did anyone in PPP not ask the question about the whereabouts of Rehman Malik who was incharge of BB’s security? Keep in mind that Rahman Malik is a close friend of Zardari.
@Rasheed, So you do agree that President did pardon NS so why you are angry if President pardon Zardari.
@kinnare
That is not what Rasheed is saying above. Read the third clause and pay attention to the word “shall”.
It is not the entire PPP that does not want the CJ to be restored; it is the Zardari and his cronies who do not want it because they have tainted past and they are afraid that CJ will void NRO and rightfully so. The reason Moshe does not want CJ to be restored is obvious, because his mansion in Turkey is probably not ready yet and he can not pack up and go there on a short notice.
@kinnare,
First of all, I am still interested in seeing the documents between NS and Mush that
“whole nation saw” and I missed it.
Secondly, I don’t consider Mush a President.
Thirdly, I don’t mind Mush pardoning Zardari or BB, as they already suffered too much. I am pissed off of NRO due to MQM getting hundreds of their killers released.
@Amir Hameed even if your agruement is accepted. PPP again easly bring bill in parlaiment to forgive Zardari’s unproven crimes and the problem will be solved. So PPP does not need NRO.
Yes word is shall so because it was signed in past today could be shall. I think every one should be happy if both Dogar Court and Iftakar Court and we should apoint new CJ who has never taken oath under is PCO at any point in his life nothing wrong with that.
the question lies should be that if zardari n nawaz sharif got pardoned off just coz they were big fishes than why not that guy who commited suicide for just 40,000 rs.
n if zardari had to be pardoned off for $1.2 billions than why not let those robbers go in karachi who had been set on fire alive…..
why make an exception for just zardari…..
if zardari or his cronies in ppp thinks that NRO was right than they should come on the national media and spread the message to the ppl that dont burn those robbers(which was wrong any way)n let them come under NRO as it covered all the crimes done by mqm n ppp….so why not few more robbers…eh?
say it to public n ppp will get the clear answer…
@rasheed, Prince Turki of Saudia showed the document to whole nation in Pakistan I am sure you call Geo or Aaj they can pulled out from their archive.
@kinnare,
This is what I also confirmed that NS signed a deal with Saudis. That document was shown on many channels and was also shown in Supreme Court. It was proved that there was no deal between “Nawaz Sharif and General Musharraf”.
Can you find that image of that document where NS signed a deal with General Mush as you originally claimed.
@rasheed, it seem you want to live in your allusion. You are welcome.
@kinnare
so you finally realise that some one else is living in illusion not allusion…apart from you….
thats wt every here in this blog tries to tell you from ages that you are living in illusion but you never listen but finally you decided that some one else living in illusion….wow
News item about another robber who was beaten and nearly killed in Lahore:
http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12331
Coming to Memri TV near you!
http://vidpk.com/view_video.php?vid=12337
WTF is wrong with these ppl?
@rasheed
I didnt wanted to jump in the party bashing but you wrote:
This is what I also confirmed that NS signed a deal with Saudis.
Just to make things clear who made deal with whom, I would ask you few questions and if you would be honest to yourself replying those then you will know whether NS made deal with Saudies or Musharaf (it doesn’t matter really as in both cases he made a DEAL, which is bad word only for PPP)!
1- Who was in authority to free him?
2- How Saudis reached him when he was under arrest?
3- Who pardoned him?
In nutshell
##- In whose custody NS was when he did that deal?
NS stance until this document surfaced was that he has NOT made deal with anybody, please watch Dr. Shahid Masood’s program on this issue. BB at least never denied that there is no deal between PPP and Musharaf and on right time she accepted it also.
@TK,
AZ has tripled his personal security since the burning of the robbers.
Why is he so afraid?
ROBBERS BURNT TO DEATH IN KARACHI
burnt alive the robbers is a good act by citizens. I think now people are exhausted by lawand order situation, joblessness, hike the prices of essential commodities. all these factors which motivated the people to act like this manner. they have no any hope from government bodies to ease their sufferings now they opted their own way and made their own laws to punish all those who commited the illegal act at the spot. you all people know that some time ago Altaf (MQM) said that this not afghanistan this a secular city of pakistan. now i think Altaf must have to change his statement and accept the realities that Karachi is now a part of Afghanistan. but all is out come of Altaf’s terrorist activities which he has maitained since long time in the name of patriot Muhajir. To bunrt to death the roobers means now Karachian wants independence from MQM’s illegal rule over karachi.
IFTIKHAR
this thing “burning alive”thing is so horondous and absurd that any one has got no idea where its goin to stop……
just yesterday i read a newstory about a little collision b/w a pick up and a bike in khi….both the parties were start arguing and all of a sudden the pick up driver start accusing those 2 bike riders of roberring and all of a sudden there was a mob and some one in that mob start urging masses to burn those 2 boys alive…..in the meantime that pick up driver just ran away n those 2 boys got rarely saved by police…
this is so dangerous and any body could be of victim in that such situation…..
i would like admin to spread the message through this website that even though they were robbering but its not ppls job to decide to punish n in a burning way…..
these things could lead to anarchy……i dont see any of these progressive or liberal minded journalists writing any thing on these issues who had spend their nights n days writing on talibans,lal masjid n so called extremism…….
this is the real extremism comin from the city who always claims they are the most educated part of pakistan…burnt alive 4 ppl in 3 days….
wt r we cryin for talinas than……
i dint see any daily times writing articles by najam sethi like the way he writes against tribal persons….
i dont see writing of hasan nisar,nazir najee,agha masood hussain…or so many others about it…mqm dont even say a word about it any more who claims that they were the best in changing the course of the city…
@admin…
you got to promote the message from your website that these things should be stopped n infact put this in headline format….if this could lead to other part of the country than this could lead to the anarchy…..any body could blame any one n he could end up in burning alive…just think about it…
appreciated…
cryin for talibans
Hamid Mir:Zardari wants relief for his Drug Dealer friend
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/19-05-2008/main2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqANqcqZO-E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhDrf0uOwbg&NR=1
This is the height of our disgrace…. Thank u mush for dropping us so low that we cannot see the difference between filth and us….. One should not forget that we are MUSLIMS first….
aoa
what i want to know is NRO going to extend to genuine innocent people in pakistani dungeons
@Kinnare,
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…..PPP again easly bring bill in parlaiment to forgive Zardari’s unproven crimes and the problem will be solved. So PPP does not need NRO….
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Now that is what I call the joke of the day; Zardari does not need NRO!!!
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…Yes word is shall so because it was signed in past today could be shall….
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Huh?
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….I think every one should be happy if both Dogar Court and Iftakar Court and ….
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Replace with word “everyone” with the “Snake Zardari and his cronies”
@aftab
My friend, you are living in dreams if you think/wish that an NRO type law will ever include common people. This was tailor made for corrupts like BB, Zardari, Rehman Malik, PML-Q lotas, MQM killers (and the list goes on) so that Moshe could get a relief which he certainly has.
@Amir Hameed et. al:
Does anyone have the text of the NRO ? I looked at the pakistani.org website and this is what I found:
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/2007/NationalReconciliationOrdinance.html
I’m wondering if there is a more detailed version that covers more specific cases?
(thanks to @peja for providing a link to this site )
@TK
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/2007/NationalReconciliationOrdinance.html
/Saqib
@TK
Sorry…it is the same link
/Saqib
@Faheem23,
My statement was in response to Kinnare’s statement that entire nation saw the paper between “NS and General Mush”. No such paper exist and it is proven in Supreme Court of Pakistan.
Secondly, please now show me reference to your statement where NS said that no deal exist with anyone.
Thanks and awaiting for response.
http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/musharraf-zardari-dogar.jpg
God bless Pakistan…
Cup Bearer
Cup Bearer, fill the flagon, fill it high,
Khushal shall sing of war in revelry,
Now blood has stained the hands of the pashtun youth,
The talons of the hawke that knows no ruth,
For full 5 years the tribal sword has flashed,
keen edged and bright, since first the battle clashed,
Upon tatara’s peak, where at one blow,
Twice twenty thousand of the moghul foe,
Perished, wives, sisters, all that they held dear,
Fell captive to the all conquering afghan spear,
Next in Daoba smote we Hussain Bek,
& Crushed his unclean head, that venomous snake,
In all our gain was glory, our glory gain,
Minstrels shall sing of us “Yea! these were men!”
– Khush Haal Khan KhaTTak
@Asif Ali Zardari:
@FAHIM23>> First of all you have mixed apple and oranges. But let me clear few things here.
Lets start from oct 1999 since its more like between NS and mush.
1.who broke the constituition>>mush
2. who took over an elected government illegaly by force>>mush
3. who put the PM NS under arrest and detained illegaly>>> mush
4.who used the SC in his favour against NS>>>mush
5.who used all the instituitions in his favour and also in favour of all those who submitted to him>>mush
6.who broke the constituition and the laws >>mush
7.who was judge,jury,prosecutor and executioner>>mush
Since mush illegaly did all this on his own now let me start answering your questions.
1. you asked : who was in authority to free him>> First of all NS should not be detained or arrested in the first place but mush arrested him illegaly>>then mush free him.
2.How saudis reached him when he was under arrest>> you need to ask that to mush>>but why the saudis were there in the first place coz NS was detained illegaly and they wanted him to be free >>they used their pressure on mush to let NS free. so mush took U TURN and freed NS.
3. who pardoned him>> No one pardoned him>>coz NS was not convicted by an independent judiciary>> mush had no choice but to let him free.
4. In whose custody he was when he made the deal>>> He was illegaly in mush custody >> if he made a deal or not >> in my opinion he did not make a deal with mush >> reasons>> There was no deal paper provided in the court>> only paper provided was a statement with NS signatures ONLY but if it was a deal then there should be the other party who must have signed. A Deal must have at least two parties and at least both have to sign. other reason FREE WILL is necessary for deal.
NOW YOU SEE WHY WE NEED INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY. LET ME MAKE YOU CLEAR ON ONE POINT THAT IF SOMEONE DID CRIME REGARDLESS WHO HE/SHE IS MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE AND JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED. Does not matter if it is NS,AZ,mush or anyone else.
Now let me tell you about NRO. If AZ is really not guilty then why he choosed NRO over an independent trail. If NS committed a crime then he should be brought to independent judiciary and if convicted then must be punished and for others the same criteria.
FOR YOUR INFO AZ HAS BEEN CONVICTED IN SWISS COURT BY DANIEL DEVAUD. YOU CAN DO YOUR RESEARCH. TRY GOOGLE.
Now just answer my one question:
DO YOU THINK NRO IS RIGHT OR WRONG FROM YOUR HEART???
aoa
@amir hameed
i know very well that this will not extend to poor innocent people but my point is that if it does not then they should at least change the name to RFC – Reconciliation For Crooks
Had Iqbal been alive today, he would have killed his “Shaheen’ and burreid it in GHQ.
India to press Pak for concrete action on terror
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2&id=204596&theme=
Colonel’s wife and 2 sons murdered – Batman suspected (no not THAT batman silly!)
http://dailywaqt.com/190508/Images/fp-08.gif
Given the kind of treatment these poor souls get, I’m surprised more of them don’t end up murdering their mai-baap’s
I’ts interesting how Moshe and Moshe-Qatil-Movement have completely disappeared from the media?
I don’t EVER see any Chooran Wala’s on any talk shows? anyone got any theories?
MunafiQ ki nishaani:
Va’adah karay to poora nah karay!
FIRING ON AAJ TV TEAM close to Islamabad>> LUCKLY EVERYONE IS SAFE. One person is arrested.