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The third analyst is actually General (r) Assad Durrani former ISI head who chaired the meeting of ex-service men society.

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Ikram Sehgal is musharrafs bitch

You know it really makes me angry that our chief executive have to take permission from the US president before changing a govt servant in Pakistan. ??

Why has our Army who we pay for and hired to protect us, humiliated us like this?

Looks like Mr. Sehgal recieved a big lifaafah from Moshe. What a douche! defending 58-2b just so the army doesn’t have to “risk treason” … oh I see.. it’s all about YOUR fKCING convenience isn’t it? You want dissolve the representatives of the people, but can’t be bothered with any chances of treason!

This ikram sehgal guy sounds like a clone of Rashid Qureishi. Another mouthpiece of ‘the presidency’.. ethnic struggle? what ethnic struggle???

@TK,

Here is what I believe:

Mush foresee what is going to happen with him. Mush wants to remind everyone that he still has some constitution powers that he can misuse and he wants to remind that he is still naughty. He tells his friend (lifafa journalist & fake defense analyst) to plant a story in his column that Mush can even replace Kiyani if there is any conspiracy against him.

The propaganda Mush wants to plant goes through Sehgals Column and gets special attention in Kamran Khan puppet show and tickers on Geo TV.

Rashid Qureshi who actually managed planting the cheap stuff in media, comes himself on the media and denies everything and says that Kiyani SHOULD complete his three year term, which again seems like a warning message from Mush Kutta.

Dr. Shahid Masood calls 2 lifafa journalists and an FA passed general to get their views, instead of talking to someone who can talk sense, and tries to dramatize this childish attempt.

I don’t know on which side Dr. Shahid Masood is, but I am amazed why Dr. Shahid calls pro-Mush lifafa journalists like Najam Sethi on every alternate show. Even when Dr. Shahid brings anyone anti-Mush, he deliberately brings someone lame like ex-general. If by chance someone with sense comes on his show, Dr. Shahid would intentionally not allow them to complete their sentence to dilute the whole show.

Dr shahid’s program is going down big time. he is talking to these sold Lifafa journalist like Ikram Sehgal, Nejam sethi and then to Sheeda Talli etc. He tries to defend Zardari also quite out of the way.

Javiad,
SM has to play these games (defending AZ) to bring out stuff from Musharraf’s mouthpieces. I don’t like Sethis and Shegal myself. However Sethi is the closest to Mush in the media, this is why SM brings him on so often, to find out what Mushies camp thinks.

@rasheed: I agree with you analysis on the planting scenario. And re: the lopsidedness of the ‘analysts’ I noticed this too.. It is ironic that the only one you could possibly suspect of being impartial was the ex ISI chief (who has been acting rather faux-patriotic lately)

but I was wondering why the hell would he only talk to these ppl? Ikram and then Najm ??? WTF? (and Asad Durrani to ‘balance’ things out?)… maybe he expected some kind of slip up by them?

What I’m really wondering about is.. Is Moshe becoming so reckless that he is willing to needle the COAS like this, what exactly is going to be Kiyaani’s reaction? could it be that he is with moshe ??? and would do something so fvking braindamaged that only moshe in his late stage of stupor and derangement be able to pull off out of sheer stupidity?

So far kiyaani has behaved rather prudently. Perhaps he will allow himself to be kicked out easily?

See, my theory is that the ‘new order’ is supposed to be Zardari and Kiyani ruling the roost. Moshe is aani-jaani cheez. His days are numbered. Maybe there _is_ some truth to the rumor and maybe _that_ is why the Americans have not given the signal to humiliate moshe..

anyways.. I’m just speculating way too much here.. but zardari’s latest biyans are kind of perplexing (even though Najam Sethi tried to blow it off as anohter ‘political’ statement by that rascal of a lovable scamp.. jurrdaari!

@TK,

After reading your comments, I would want to bring another contradictory theory.

This news could be planted by Kiyani himself, since lifafa journalists should be more loyal to Army Chief than to President, and the time is ripe to switch sides.

If this is the case, then Mush and Rashid Queshi should be genuinely pissed at this time, because army chiefs always start an effective propaganda campaign against their targets before attack.

If this theory is true by mistake, then I would genuinely wish for article 6 to be applied on Mush Kutta and would also want Kiyani to stay outside politics after this adventure.

@rasheed: hmmmmmm… intriguing prospect!!… maybe this is a hint indeed, but from Kiyani!! good point! (baRi door ki koRi laai haiN aap!)
couple other things that have been simmering on the back-burner without anyone noticing is that the “ex servicemen society” has not let up the pressure and not only that.. they have started talking about “their base of hundreds of thousands of retired personnel” like the lawyers…

So this is an interesting development, that the fauj is willing to become a pressure group like other pressure groups (interest group/lobby) within the body politic and that I somehow take as a good sign (ie they’re not willing to go the way of Burma)

Another thing is that all these jabs by the ex-servicemen prolly have tacit approval of Kiyani.. because one thing they’re talking about is moshe’s eviction from the Army House. so this is a subtle, constant reminder to moshe that he may have overstayed his welcome (at least in the army house)…

I hope it doesn’t have to come to another jurnail interfering in the affairs of a government…

I’m also surprised that there are very few protests against the constant “visits” of these american bar$tards!

Ikram Sehgal is FULL OF %*$%^&, I wanted to slap this guy when he talked about compromising , not to impeach the illegal president. What a do*che bag.

well said “Ikram Sehgal is musharrafs bitch”

I think Dr, SM has deep relation with Najam Sethi …..who know what?
cus every time he is taking his opinion like non other explain like him.

some of Dog always barking againt society and always discouraging and depressing us.They are so called analysts and giving priority to self supremacy which is propaganda of establishment

1. Sh. Rasheed
2. Najam sethi
3. Imtiaz Alam
4. Hassan Nisar

People with hope and courge

1. Asnsaar Abasi
2. Irfan Siddiqui
3. Rauf Klasra
4. Rt. Gen.. Talat Masood
5. Rt. Gen Hameed Gul

if i missed someone u can include in the list

Genera retired Talat Masood ,never trust ,he can play on both sides ,

Raulf Clasra .Be very vigilant some people seems ant establishment ,but really not ,

Irfan siddique . he is a remarkable person but at the movement is core supporter of NAWAZ Sharif Just like Hussain haqani ,

Ansar Abbasi.do not know him much ,he is doing great job at the movement but he belongs to JANG GROUP that could be any thing but INDEPENDET MEDIA GROUP . So do not follow him blindly ,

FEW EXAMPLES OF COMPLICATED PERSONALITIES :

Sher Afghan was a great democrate when opposing ZIA in 1985 assembly ,

Sardar Asif Ahmed Ali was playing the similiar role at that time .

ooh how can i forget the worst deep shi** ” Humayon Gohar”

Do we have similarity what Akram Sehgal (Mush’s chumcha) and Altaf Bhai have to say: http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/26-05-2008/update.htm#30

Both of them are serving the same dog!

Dr. Shahid Masood is mixture of PPPilya and MQM from inside. How many times he has talked about May 12 and April 9th in his programs. He always skips MQM topic with guests. He was the one who went and interviewed Altaf Hussain 4 years ago. Here is the link to it. Please click ‘video’ tab on left hand side. http://www.mqm.com/

Dr. Shahid brings Najam Sethi to portray PPP’s ideas.

President Musharaf , what a bad guy he is ?.
-Bad guy joined the army on merit, put his life on line, fought several wars for the country.
-Bad guy saved Pakistan after 9/11. Read US senate committee repot on 9/11
-Bad guy saved Pakistan from going bankrupt.
-Bad guy gave women their rights ,changed rape law where victom has to provide three male wittneses of her rape or she was charged for adultry. None of these big mouth politicians had courage to even talk about the bizzare rape law change.
-Bad guy commenced Constructions of big dams.
-Bad guy held fairest elections in the history of Pakistan, If he had rigged the elections.PML/Q would have won most of the seats in punjab, Sindh and Balochistan.
-Bad guy allowed fifty more private tv channels while good guy before him allowed one “PTV”. Thank-less news media ” we won it, no one gave us”, what stopped you from winning before Musharaf was president.
-Bad guy did not robbed the country or stole zakat funds, no %.
-Bad guy did not appoint his son, daughter or in-laws to high positins in Govt , did not helped them to win seats in assemblies.
Goodluck you found the good guys now. prosperity every where in Pakistan, people are safe and happy, every one is getting a job and a house , paradize is being created on earth for them.

go mush-kutta go!

@J.a.g.
No No dirty Mush was a very good guy because
He killed innocent children in Lal Masjid
He enjoyed killing of 50 innocents on May 12th in Karachi
He humiliated Chief Justice of Pakistan because CJ refused to follow his illegal orders.
He is behind killing of Benazir Bhutto
He claimed in US media that Pakistani Women are willing to get raped to get a visa.
As far as corruption is concerned, wait till dirty Mush is out of Govt and than you will know all his corruption stories. Steel Mill is just an example of what was happening in Mush’s tenure.

I don’t have more time otherwise this list can go for ever…

@sota

I agree with most of what you say but what is wrong with supporting NS’s ideological stances that are in line with public mood?

@sota
Just to elaborate, Irfan Siddiqui is not someone who would support NS blindly nor is he dictated by foreign masters, therefore he cannot be compared with bikawoo Maal such as Hussain Haqqaani. IS a true patriot who would support any one with patriotic policies.

This was clearly exhibited by him when he was praising Zardari after he joined PMLN instead of and MQM.

IS was also positive on Zardari after Murre declaration.
IS, in my view is the most intelligent and patriotic analysts in the print and televised media today.

@J.a.g

WTH!!
a rare Mush supporter. My first one ever. What next, second coming of dinosaurs?

That long list of his A’maal naama is exactly why every Pakistani wants to see him die!!! Again and again and again and again and again and again and again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and die he will.

I can’t believe Moshe has fallen so low that he is getting his family members to respond at places like pkpolitics.

By the way how are you related to him?

@all

Ive had a very disturbing thought, could it be that J.a.g is Moshe himself?

Who else could defend him now?

I really hated the fact that when Ikram Sehgal told a BALD FACED LIE about the Armed Forces “only obeying the orders of the Supreme Commander, Moshe” .. DakTurr Shahid Masood didn’t even bother to challenge this patent horsesh!t !!

Also, whye the he!! is army so interested in dissolving the government? and keeping the power in the “National Security Council” ??? Would we accept it if WAPDA were saying.. “The power to dissolve the assemblies should devolve from the chairman of WAPDA to the Water and Power Council”..

WHAT THE FUQQ is WRONG WITH THIS NATION?? And our “analysts” don’t even realize what the hell they’re tacitly approving when they say “jeee!” like the obedient b!tches that they’ve been trained to be! FFS!!

@m5433d: It is quite possible that musharraf family sometimes tries to defend him. quite a few of them are settled in the states as indicated by a recent report (a report which actually tried to imply that Mush extended family is actually against him ‘because they support the democrats and Obama’)

Is this three in one bargain? Quite mind boggling why Shahid massod brings in three of almost same kind in one show? Where is the debate if there is nobody to challenge these comrades of mush? Couldn

watch these and i think there will not remain an ounce of a doubt in your mind who did 9/11… its called 9/11 coincidences… watch all 19 parts on youtube…

Their is a phrase which is true most of the time. No matter how much good or bad some-one is, 1/3 will love him, 1/3 will hate him and 1/3 don’t realy care. Same applies to most of our past and present leaders, people have liberty to form their own opinions and this the beauty of a democratic society. who gave any one right to criticize me if I like Imran Khan or Musharaf or Sheikh Rashid, at least i do not fallow the mass like sheeps fallow their horde. Just be honest to yourself and to your God.