about time this sob was thrown out on the streets of pakistan .
Let the oppressed people of pakistan dish out the same justice he delivered to the orphans of Lal Masjid . May be then this thick skinned sob will feel the pain of a nation that he brutalised for 9 years . Let the same bombs that he used to burn our nations children burn his thick skin.
His list of crimes is endless .
How long will it take for this nation to break free from the chains of slavery that this bastard gifted to his masters . And for what ? so he could continue to stay in Army House ……. let us make an example of this bastard . Never again should any mother fucking general dare to impose his will on this nation of helpless peole.
Rise the poor but brave people of pakistan and lets turn this Army House into a GENERALS GRAVEYARD……..
Once again disappointed with the language used by Rasheed comments using the word B…….. & F…….. is disgrace and I feel ashamed that such people exits and they should not have any rights to write comments. I am sure many literary would have read this. Going back to the comment, democracy is a dream of nations but unfortunately it has not lasted for long because of corrupt politician. However we must not forget that Pakistan fought four wars to defend the country and the nation and must never treat those who have and sacrificed their lives to protect and provide the freedom that we have enjoyed. No Pakistani nationalist and patriot should tolerate such comment against an officer of the Pakistan Army. Every time a General Came to power he was greeted by the nation. Lets pray and hope that no General will have an excuse to intervene in the true and honest democracy. Today Pakistan faces many chalenge, let us fight together those chalanges. Lal Masgid was a terrorist den and tried to create a state within state. I am a Pakistani first and I shall defend my country against the evil whatever their beliefs may. Pakistan Zindabad.
@Claremont,
“Every time a General Came to power he was greeted by the nation.”
What nonsense! If so; let your favorite General Mush contest election. With the exception of MQM, he would not get even 1% votes. Its sad to see some people advocating Genrals like Mush and Aslam Baig who are professionally incompetent and morally perversive and evil.
This guy and his friends like Shortkut Aziz needs to be procecuted for life term imprisonment. Let them stay alive in a small room with no light in it.
Even its a very light punisment for the people who killed innocent girls in lal masjid…as Rasheed said the list of their crimes is endless.
claremont …obviously has a general in his extended family . These corrupt generals are not fit to defend this country from an invading army of boy scouts !!!!!
I am ashamed that we have people like him to still defend these corrupt SOBs who have pillaged and raped their own country and all in the name of PATRIOTISM.
Just look at India . They got independence same time as us . Today they are a regional economic and military power . We have in 60 years managed to replace a British Viceroy with an American . Our people are worse off than what they were 60 years ago and some one like Claremont has the audacity to defend these corrupt generals . We should disband this self-occupation army if we are to progress to the nations of developed countries!!!!!!!!!
btw it is not only the corrupt generals . Now we have our soldiers on peace keeping missions gang raping 10 year old girls !!!!!!what an army !!!!!!
Whosoever this individual ‘ Claremont ‘ is, & whatever has expressed above, I simply think is, in bad taste. We all should remember that Pakistan is now AWAKE. Nobody like ‘ Claremont ‘ can hurt peoples sentiments & then get away with it.
I would request this individual to be careful while expressing his views. He must be joking, when he says ‘ Lal Masjid ‘ was a terrorist den. Either he was ‘ asleep ‘when the terrible events occured ; when unarmed women & girls were being massacred there,OR, I hope NOT,was enjoying a glass of BOOZE with his erstwhile friend Mush, in the BIGGEST TERRORIST DEN, at thet time, ie; the palatial Presidency, on the hill.
My request to this ‘ Claremont ‘ gentleman ( or woman, ) whosoever,may be, IS, that, please be pragamatic & please OPEN YOUR EYES, before defending
Mush & his zealots / drumbeaters / partisans, & before defending such guys
who are a blot on the army. I hope this ‘ Claremont ‘ is not closely related to Mush & his likes, bcuz the way he defends them, sounds STRANGE, & it HURTS.
Let me tell you that nobody could be more CLOSE to such guys than myself.
If the army / others have sacrificed ‘ their lives ‘ then it were MOSTLY the junior officers& men, who faced the brunt ; & NOT the Brigadiers / Generals who were sitting far away in SAFE RANGE, & ‘ over- seeing ‘ their men being mercilessly killed by the enemy ?
Where was this ‘ Calermont ‘ at that time ? And in which theatre of WAR, WAS HE IN THE FRONT, may I beg to ask ?I know from personal knoweldge, that after each war, the close relations of such ‘ Shaheeds ‘ who were mostly themselves, ex-servicemen, i.e; either Genarals, Brigadiers or Colonels, were heard commenting that they did not consider their wards as ‘ Shaheeds ‘ of that particular war, but were wrongly ‘ killed ‘ by their incompetent Commandig Officers & by those,above them.
This army was not made for these Generals / Brigadiers to, have their cake & eat it too. ‘ Whenever a general took over the reins of the civilian govt, he ruled not for months; not for a few years, but for DECADES. Yet such selfish people NEVER LEFT ON THEIR OWN,till they were booted out. What did asoldier earn during such army rule ? Nothing except redicule of the nation ?
they are critically opposed, indeed. it is however troubling to see that people with a radical islamist agenda have taken the judiciary cause as a hostage for their own ’strategic’ objectives…
lal masjid was indeed a den of terrorism sponsored by ISI and ruled by two sectarian cum terrorist brothers. mullah abdullah and mullah rasheed ghazi. their patron, once upon a time, was the son of mard-i-momin ijaz-ul-haq.
who killed innocent girls and women there? those two terrorist mullahs who kept them as hostage.
though i must say…it really is about time that the SOB jurnail, along with his shahi afsar and civillian abettors…were taken to task…tried and forced to apologize on National TV…
is faujistanic jurnail aur is ki faujistani backbone ko thornay ki sakht zaroorat hai.
(the las masjid were no bette then some religous cult in guyana or waco, texas…only these were armed and forcing their ideology without any legal mandate…i dread the pakistan which would have sanctioned what these fools were saying and doing in the name of religion)
@ “claremont” : I find your poorly expressed pro-fascist views rather more disturbing and offensive than the occasional F word used against the sifaarshi jurnail. As a matter of fact we should be allowed to call these so called 500-million-dollar “patriots” of yours with the proper title that they deserve, and that as @rasheed put it, is : “M0ther Fckers” … FOR STARTERS!
If you think blindly supporting these leeches — who destroyed and gutted the Pakistan Army itself — is some kind of “patriotism” then you got another think coming!
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May 28th, 2008 at 11:42 am
about time this sob was thrown out on the streets of pakistan .
Let the oppressed people of pakistan dish out the same justice he delivered to the orphans of Lal Masjid . May be then this thick skinned sob will feel the pain of a nation that he brutalised for 9 years . Let the same bombs that he used to burn our nations children burn his thick skin.
His list of crimes is endless .
How long will it take for this nation to break free from the chains of slavery that this bastard gifted to his masters . And for what ? so he could continue to stay in Army House ……. let us make an example of this bastard . Never again should any mother fucking general dare to impose his will on this nation of helpless peole.
Rise the poor but brave people of pakistan and lets turn this Army House into a GENERALS GRAVEYARD……..
May 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Once again disappointed with the language used by Rasheed comments using the word B…….. & F…….. is disgrace and I feel ashamed that such people exits and they should not have any rights to write comments. I am sure many literary would have read this. Going back to the comment, democracy is a dream of nations but unfortunately it has not lasted for long because of corrupt politician. However we must not forget that Pakistan fought four wars to defend the country and the nation and must never treat those who have and sacrificed their lives to protect and provide the freedom that we have enjoyed. No Pakistani nationalist and patriot should tolerate such comment against an officer of the Pakistan Army. Every time a General Came to power he was greeted by the nation. Lets pray and hope that no General will have an excuse to intervene in the true and honest democracy. Today Pakistan faces many chalenge, let us fight together those chalanges. Lal Masgid was a terrorist den and tried to create a state within state. I am a Pakistani first and I shall defend my country against the evil whatever their beliefs may. Pakistan Zindabad.
May 28th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
a petition should be filed against him for hi treason for Kargil!
May 28th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
@Claremont,
“Every time a General Came to power he was greeted by the nation.”
What nonsense! If so; let your favorite General Mush contest election. With the exception of MQM, he would not get even 1% votes. Its sad to see some people advocating Genrals like Mush and Aslam Baig who are professionally incompetent and morally perversive and evil.
May 28th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
This guy and his friends like Shortkut Aziz needs to be procecuted for life term imprisonment. Let them stay alive in a small room with no light in it.
Even its a very light punisment for the people who killed innocent girls in lal masjid…as Rasheed said the list of their crimes is endless.
May 29th, 2008 at 11:32 am
claremont …obviously has a general in his extended family . These corrupt generals are not fit to defend this country from an invading army of boy scouts !!!!!
I am ashamed that we have people like him to still defend these corrupt SOBs who have pillaged and raped their own country and all in the name of PATRIOTISM.
Just look at India . They got independence same time as us . Today they are a regional economic and military power . We have in 60 years managed to replace a British Viceroy with an American . Our people are worse off than what they were 60 years ago and some one like Claremont has the audacity to defend these corrupt generals . We should disband this self-occupation army if we are to progress to the nations of developed countries!!!!!!!!!
btw it is not only the corrupt generals . Now we have our soldiers on peace keeping missions gang raping 10 year old girls !!!!!!what an army !!!!!!
May 29th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Claremont..
Take a long look at your conscience..
Please..
May 29th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Pakistanis are worse than napleese. even they have overturned the badshahat. Does anybody expect these impotant steps to be effective.
May 31st, 2008 at 9:56 am
Whosoever this individual ‘ Claremont ‘ is, & whatever has expressed above, I simply think is, in bad taste. We all should remember that Pakistan is now AWAKE. Nobody like ‘ Claremont ‘ can hurt peoples sentiments & then get away with it.
I would request this individual to be careful while expressing his views. He must be joking, when he says ‘ Lal Masjid ‘ was a terrorist den. Either he was ‘ asleep ‘when the terrible events occured ; when unarmed women & girls were being massacred there,OR, I hope NOT,was enjoying a glass of BOOZE with his erstwhile friend Mush, in the BIGGEST TERRORIST DEN, at thet time, ie; the palatial Presidency, on the hill.
My request to this ‘ Claremont ‘ gentleman ( or woman, ) whosoever,may be, IS, that, please be pragamatic & please OPEN YOUR EYES, before defending
Mush & his zealots / drumbeaters / partisans, & before defending such guys
who are a blot on the army. I hope this ‘ Claremont ‘ is not closely related to Mush & his likes, bcuz the way he defends them, sounds STRANGE, & it HURTS.
Let me tell you that nobody could be more CLOSE to such guys than myself.
If the army / others have sacrificed ‘ their lives ‘ then it were MOSTLY the junior officers& men, who faced the brunt ; & NOT the Brigadiers / Generals who were sitting far away in SAFE RANGE, & ‘ over- seeing ‘ their men being mercilessly killed by the enemy ?
Where was this ‘ Calermont ‘ at that time ? And in which theatre of WAR, WAS HE IN THE FRONT, may I beg to ask ?I know from personal knoweldge, that after each war, the close relations of such ‘ Shaheeds ‘ who were mostly themselves, ex-servicemen, i.e; either Genarals, Brigadiers or Colonels, were heard commenting that they did not consider their wards as ‘ Shaheeds ‘ of that particular war, but were wrongly ‘ killed ‘ by their incompetent Commandig Officers & by those,above them.
This army was not made for these Generals / Brigadiers to, have their cake & eat it too. ‘ Whenever a general took over the reins of the civilian govt, he ruled not for months; not for a few years, but for DECADES. Yet such selfish people NEVER LEFT ON THEIR OWN,till they were booted out. What did asoldier earn during such army rule ? Nothing except redicule of the nation ?
May 31st, 2008 at 10:06 am
@claremont
dont back off…stand yor ground !
May 31st, 2008 at 10:07 am
lal masjid and the judiciary are diametrically opposed issues…in my opinion.
May 31st, 2008 at 10:16 am
kafka
they are critically opposed, indeed. it is however troubling to see that people with a radical islamist agenda have taken the judiciary cause as a hostage for their own ’strategic’ objectives…
lal masjid was indeed a den of terrorism sponsored by ISI and ruled by two sectarian cum terrorist brothers. mullah abdullah and mullah rasheed ghazi. their patron, once upon a time, was the son of mard-i-momin ijaz-ul-haq.
who killed innocent girls and women there? those two terrorist mullahs who kept them as hostage.
May 31st, 2008 at 10:30 am
@claremont
though i must say…it really is about time that the SOB jurnail, along with his shahi afsar and civillian abettors…were taken to task…tried and forced to apologize on National TV…
is faujistanic jurnail aur is ki faujistani backbone ko thornay ki sakht zaroorat hai.
(the las masjid were no bette then some religous cult in guyana or waco, texas…only these were armed and forcing their ideology without any legal mandate…i dread the pakistan which would have sanctioned what these fools were saying and doing in the name of religion)
May 31st, 2008 at 10:31 am
las=lal
May 31st, 2008 at 10:42 am
faujistan is an adequate name for a country ruled by fauj for the most part of its history.
however, would we be able to bring those military and civil bureaucrats to justice, ever?
how would that be possible?
a tug of war between idealism and realism?
yawan!
May 31st, 2008 at 10:42 am
yawn!
May 31st, 2008 at 11:14 am
@ “claremont” : I find your poorly expressed pro-fascist views rather more disturbing and offensive than the occasional F word used against the sifaarshi jurnail. As a matter of fact we should be allowed to call these so called 500-million-dollar “patriots” of yours with the proper title that they deserve, and that as @rasheed put it, is : “M0ther Fckers” … FOR STARTERS!
If you think blindly supporting these leeches — who destroyed and gutted the Pakistan Army itself — is some kind of “patriotism” then you got another think coming!
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm
@TK:
Your emotional and foul language is going to convince noone.