wow, you think you are right because Ijaz-ul-haq said the same thing. I am not saying you were wrong in your theory but your verification method needs major correction
@engineer: Actually it’s less ‘verification’ and more ‘triangulation’… I’m just using the information he’s blurting out to confirm something I said a while back (it was a whole conspiracy theory I had built and NS-BB linkage was a part of it.. but I don’t know where it went now.. hh.mmmm.. coincidence?)
@kafka8: thanks for raining on my brief parade!
oh and he’s stating a ‘fact’ .. I had alluded to the existence of such linkage a while back, this is independent corroboraton from someone that was ‘connected’ and has no idea I was putting forward a whacky theory like this..
I’m curious too.. why would BB & NS return be linked? I forget what the linkage was that I made.. it was a whole rant about some conspiracy theory or something.
but did you notice he said NS is doing awami politics, didn’t say any thing against PMLN or lawyers/CJ. I think he is looking his way back in PMLN. He had to say that, it was logical follow up. He can not say it was some deal with mush.
Just compare that to his statements in old programs, where he was saying deal with mush/saudis
a bit of side information….sheeda tully and salman taseer hate each others guts…
sheeda tullly also had a strong say in PTV affairs…if Mush is still pulling the strings…then i wonder if Tully had any role in getting S.masood to come to PTV (that is ….if he is doing that?)
Some people has criticised ejaz ul haq for being Zia ki baqieyat.
I think this is not true, politically. Yes, he is son of Zia ul haq, but Zia was just a dictator, army general, he did not leave any vote bank etc. (unlike Bhutto family) and in the name of Zia , Ejaz ulH aq cant bag even 100 votes in Rawalpindi as is evident from 17 august anniversary ceremony of zia in recent years (after NS tenure).
So i think , its better to treat ejaz ul haq just like other PMLQ members.
He won his seat from bahawalnagar due to ARAEIN bradery factor and support of Vital group (of Vita Tea industries), even this time he was able to bag about 80,000 votes.
It seems, he is desperate to get in to PMLN again, although, as per PMLN policy of approval from local leaders of constituencyy, he has no problems becos PMLN is not much present in that area, but NS and som other main stream leaders like khawja asif and Saad Rafiqe has strong reservations against him.
hmm…are u suggesting that there is a voice within PML N …to sideline the likes of ejaz ul haq…and others like him (formerly PML-N/Q) on the extreme right and strongly linked with the preservance of the status quo.???
This son of a ***** dictator. His assets should be revealed to the public.. Dr. -The great journalistic mind of our time- has a specialty in making leaders out of criminals. He is able to unearth the intellectual,articulate jewels of our nation , and with his in-depth -read confused,disjointed-questioning,enlighten us in so many ways. I’m sick of this man.
Get ready for further enlightenment,next in line, Sheikh Mujib of Awami League or is it Sheikh Rasheed…
@TK
your theory about NS is right because Saudis told Busharraf that if a shia “woman” is allowed than why not a sunny “man”. disgusting but thats the way it is….
“and others like him (formerly PML-N/Q) on the extreme right “”
wat u mean by extreme right?? i think we need to come out of this disillusion……..these people r not from Left or right……being from Right or Left is based on some ideology ( one agrees or not ). these people are shameless people with no ideology watsoever…….
these r the same people who were saying prayers ( n that also without Wudhu) to show to Zia and same people were advocating Marathon race and doing Mujras ( like that CBR guy) to please Musharraf……..
if tomorrow some General KHUSRA will take over…..they wil start wearing women dresses and will do mujras on road even….
I will upload it first thing in the morning. This video was uploaded very late, in fact just few hours ago as CJ’s trip to Peshawar conflicted with this episode of Meray Mutabiq.
Anyone who had doubts about the Saudi factor in the return of Nawaz Shareef and thus indirectly due to the USA- I am sure the support that Nawaz Shareef has promised Zardari that he will support NRO.
Well, he is becoming as good as Musharraf as a supporter of NRO and Zardari.
It was told to us by a serving Major of Pakistan Army and I always had doubt on it until I watched today’s program.
The Major said that the colonel that was killed in Lal Masjid Operation was hit by army and not by militants inside Jamia. And the reason was that he refused to ambush and kill innocent women and children. He was hit from back.
Today when Dr. sahib mentioned him in particular and especially expressed his doubts if he was killed by militants, it reminded me that Major’s story and I think there must be something which was not revealed.
This was the Karbla (probably even severe than that) of 21st century and a judicial inquiry should be held to bring shimars and yazeeds of this era before justice.
But the question is k hum ehl e kufa ka kia ho ga jo yeh sara zulm apni ankhon kay samnay daikhtay rahay aur aik banda bhee ghar say nahi nikla k iss yazeedi foj kay haath pakarta.
Does anyone know if moshe or shauka chore have a sick fascination with the number 9 or something??? (or number 3 ??)
ijalz-huq said, “original operation was to start on 9th of April”.
12 october - first martial law.
9 march - fired CJ
9 April - wanted to do operation in lal masjid
12 may
18 october - attack on benzir
3 nov - 2nd Martial Law
27 december - benazir assassination
18 feb - general elections
9 march - murree declaration
9 april - burning of the lawyers.
9 may - london talks fail
18 may - Mardan attack, Bush meets YRG (WTF?)
27 may - Re-establishment of relations b/w Zardari/Nawaz
This leads me to the next question:
Will something BIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG happen on June 9th ?
I KNOW IJAZ UL HAQ MANY TIME HE WIN FROM RAWALPINDI, BUT HE NOT AWALIBAL FOR THE PEOPLE OF RAWALPINDI, HE CONSTU..
55 BELONG TO ARMY AREA, PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW HE WIN, ALWAYS HE SPECK LIE
Is it possible to raise the intellectual level of the discourse on your web site.
Perhaps you could add a rule to your Constitution that requires CIVILITY and DECENCY as basic .
Or perhaps you too busy with the technical work of maintaining this website and do NOT want to be in the POLICING business. But perhaps you might help elevate the level of conversation where people are prevented from using FOUL language very badly disguised by SPELLINGS.
June 1st, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Ijaz-ul-haq confirm my thesis about why NS was allowed to return before the 10 year timespan by the Saudi’s.
His supposed deal was linked with BB’s non return. As I correctly theorized.. naa nanana nanaa haaa! for once I’m right!!
June 1st, 2008 at 11:37 pm
@tk
wow, you think you are right because Ijaz-ul-haq said the same thing. I am not saying you were wrong in your theory but your verification method needs major correction
June 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
@tk
engineer….has a point mate…your witness is kinda shoddy!!
June 1st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
@engineer: Actually it’s less ‘verification’ and more ‘triangulation’… I’m just using the information he’s blurting out to confirm something I said a while back (it was a whole conspiracy theory I had built and NS-BB linkage was a part of it.. but I don’t know where it went now.. hh.mmmm.. coincidence?)

June 1st, 2008 at 11:49 pm
@kafka8: thanks for raining on my brief parade!
oh and he’s stating a ‘fact’ .. I had alluded to the existence of such linkage a while back, this is independent corroboraton from someone that was ‘connected’ and has no idea I was putting forward a whacky theory like this..
I’m curious too.. why would BB & NS return be linked? I forget what the linkage was that I made.. it was a whole rant about some conspiracy theory or something.
June 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm
@tk
but did you notice he said NS is doing awami politics, didn’t say any thing against PMLN or lawyers/CJ. I think he is looking his way back in PMLN. He had to say that, it was logical follow up. He can not say it was some deal with mush.
Just compare that to his statements in old programs, where he was saying deal with mush/saudis
June 1st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Looking forward to today’s Meray Mutabiq. As always an interesting program with Sh Rasheed. More comments later when the program is posted.
June 1st, 2008 at 11:57 pm
@tk and engineer
tk….that was in jest…i too noticed the linkage u alluded to.
engineer…thats an apt observation…he almost wants to return to PML-N…
June 1st, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Sheeda Tully is so full of $h!t though!
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 am
@kruman
dude…u may be right there about sheeda tully….
a bit of side information….sheeda tully and salman taseer hate each others guts…
sheeda tullly also had a strong say in PTV affairs…if Mush is still pulling the strings…then i wonder if Tully had any role in getting S.masood to come to PTV (that is ….if he is doing that?)
what do u think?
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 am
Some people has criticised ejaz ul haq for being Zia ki baqieyat.
I think this is not true, politically. Yes, he is son of Zia ul haq, but Zia was just a dictator, army general, he did not leave any vote bank etc. (unlike Bhutto family) and in the name of Zia , Ejaz ulH aq cant bag even 100 votes in Rawalpindi as is evident from 17 august anniversary ceremony of zia in recent years (after NS tenure).
So i think , its better to treat ejaz ul haq just like other PMLQ members.
He won his seat from bahawalnagar due to ARAEIN bradery factor and support of Vital group (of Vita Tea industries), even this time he was able to bag about 80,000 votes.
It seems, he is desperate to get in to PMLN again, although, as per PMLN policy of approval from local leaders of constituencyy, he has no problems becos PMLN is not much present in that area, but NS and som other main stream leaders like khawja asif and Saad Rafiqe has strong reservations against him.
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:16 am
@GM
hmm…are u suggesting that there is a voice within PML N …to sideline the likes of ejaz ul haq…and others like him (formerly PML-N/Q) on the extreme right and strongly linked with the preservance of the status quo.???
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 am
This son of a ***** dictator. His assets should be revealed to the public.. Dr. -The great journalistic mind of our time- has a specialty in making leaders out of criminals. He is able to unearth the intellectual,articulate jewels of our nation , and with his in-depth -read confused,disjointed-questioning,enlighten us in so many ways. I’m sick of this man.
Get ready for further enlightenment,next in line, Sheikh Mujib of Awami League or is it Sheikh Rasheed…
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 am
kurd vs khalid kanja# on left right…on geo…on now.
interesting
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 am
@TK
your theory about NS is right because Saudis told Busharraf that if a shia “woman” is allowed than why not a sunny “man”. disgusting but thats the way it is….
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:22 am
@kafka
“and others like him (formerly PML-N/Q) on the extreme right “”
wat u mean by extreme right?? i think we need to come out of this disillusion……..these people r not from Left or right……being from Right or Left is based on some ideology ( one agrees or not ). these people are shameless people with no ideology watsoever…….
these r the same people who were saying prayers ( n that also without Wudhu) to show to Zia and same people were advocating Marathon race and doing Mujras ( like that CBR guy) to please Musharraf……..
if tomorrow some General KHUSRA will take over…..they wil start wearing women dresses and will do mujras on road even….
no Right or Left for these people….
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:26 am
@admin
video is working….
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 am
@GM
point taken.
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:52 am
the video is not working admin….any update?
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:52 am
and why my comments awaiting moderation??
June 2nd, 2008 at 12:58 am
why is this video not working on my computer??
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:06 am
Sorry, fixed.
June 2nd, 2008 at 1:17 am
cheers mate
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 am
@ Admin
You said to upload video after 24 hours, 72 hours passed but even then you did not upload video, “Kia yeh khula tazad nahi”.
Everybody can not be the premium member so upload aftr 24 hours.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 am
@patriot,
I will upload it first thing in the morning. This video was uploaded very late, in fact just few hours ago as CJ’s trip to Peshawar conflicted with this episode of Meray Mutabiq.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:56 am
Anyone who had doubts about the Saudi factor in the return of Nawaz Shareef and thus indirectly due to the USA- I am sure the support that Nawaz Shareef has promised Zardari that he will support NRO.
Well, he is becoming as good as Musharraf as a supporter of NRO and Zardari.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 am
It was told to us by a serving Major of Pakistan Army and I always had doubt on it until I watched today’s program.
The Major said that the colonel that was killed in Lal Masjid Operation was hit by army and not by militants inside Jamia. And the reason was that he refused to ambush and kill innocent women and children. He was hit from back.
Today when Dr. sahib mentioned him in particular and especially expressed his doubts if he was killed by militants, it reminded me that Major’s story and I think there must be something which was not revealed.
This was the Karbla (probably even severe than that) of 21st century and a judicial inquiry should be held to bring shimars and yazeeds of this era before justice.
But the question is k hum ehl e kufa ka kia ho ga jo yeh sara zulm apni ankhon kay samnay daikhtay rahay aur aik banda bhee ghar say nahi nikla k iss yazeedi foj kay haath pakarta.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:56 am
Does anyone know if moshe or shauka chore have a sick fascination with the number 9 or something??? (or number 3 ??)
ijalz-huq said, “original operation was to start on 9th of April”.
12 october - first martial law.
9 march - fired CJ
9 April - wanted to do operation in lal masjid
12 may
18 october - attack on benzir
3 nov - 2nd Martial Law
27 december - benazir assassination
18 feb - general elections
9 march - murree declaration
9 april - burning of the lawyers.
9 may - london talks fail
18 may - Mardan attack, Bush meets YRG (WTF?)
27 may - Re-establishment of relations b/w Zardari/Nawaz
This leads me to the next question:
Will something BIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG happen on June 9th ?
stay tuned b!tches!
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:59 am
And don’t forget, the results of the ORIGINAL elections were to come out on:
Surprise! Surprise: January 9th. 2008.
Need I say more?
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:05 am
judicial bus will be struck by a suicide bomber on 10th june.chaos will reign supreme following that
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:33 am
I KNOW IJAZ UL HAQ MANY TIME HE WIN FROM RAWALPINDI, BUT HE NOT AWALIBAL FOR THE PEOPLE OF RAWALPINDI, HE CONSTU..
55 BELONG TO ARMY AREA, PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW HE WIN, ALWAYS HE SPECK LIE
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:12 am
Niaz Bhatti . I have also heard same story from serving army people that colonel was hit by military and not from people inside laal masjid……
very sad… and you last remarks are very troubling Allah help us
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 am
goshee25:
Yaar Urdu mein baat kar lia karo. Itni serious discussion mein hasnaa saara thought process disturb kar deta hai.
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
@goshee
Practice makes perfect. As long as you don’t trade Urdu for another language, carry on I say old chap
June 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Free version added.
June 3rd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
JAY PUTAR AIEN SAIN DA
VASA NA KHAIN ARIEN
MUNAFIQ (AIJAZ UL HAQ)
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
@Admn
Is it possible to raise the intellectual level of the discourse on your web site.
Perhaps you could add a rule to your Constitution that requires CIVILITY and DECENCY as basic .
Or perhaps you too busy with the technical work of maintaining this website and do NOT want to be in the POLICING business. But perhaps you might help elevate the level of conversation where people are prevented from using FOUL language very badly disguised by SPELLINGS.
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Ijaj is one of the responsible of lal masjid’s qatal-e-aam. Now because he is not in power thats why he is saying that it was a qatal-e-aam.
He is a real “LOOTAH”.
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
i agree not only he is a LOTA, but also son of a bloody dictator