@Saqib,
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… Mullah crime …
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I would say that the SOB Maulvi should be hanged the same way and a 20KG weight should be tied to his genitals.

PPP is trying to fool the lawyers and nation with the constitutional package. I hope NS throws it on AZ’s face.

It is just a facade to divert attention from the long march.

The problem is not Mush, it is PPP. Musharraf is hiding behind AZ and Gillani. All their BS against the dictator is only meant to take the steam out of the lawyers’ movement.

The worst enemy of Pakistan today is AZ. Today PPP has announced a package only to divert attention from the lawyers’ long march. I hope NS rips it into pieces, and I think he will. He understands AZ quite well now.

Dacoits and Thugs for AZ is a a new grassroots party that has been formed in the prisons of Pakistan. These dacoits and thugs say AZ is their hero, he plundered $2 billion and got away with it.

These people will form the new cadre of ZPP jiyalas.

Whatever has been expressed above is ABSOLUTELY, correct.

I do not have an access to any political big-wig or a kingpin, like Nawaz Sharif,
etc; nor to any high-profile lawyer, like Aitzaz Ahsan, Ali Ahmed Kurd or Munir Malik,etc; as otherwise I wanted to convey to them, my humble suggestions, as follows : -

NOW is the TIME RIPE, to make the ‘ powers-that-be ‘ to listen to the demands of the public through these kingpins.

But HOW ? By NOT . . . .ONLY. . . . . . . marching from Karachi to Khyber in this hot summer heat, alone. BUT to be really effective, I suggest ( ONLY a suggestion, please, ) that these & other leaders should publicly ANNOUNCE in 10 June 08, that all the NATION, SHOULD STOP CONTRIBUTING, a single paisa to the National Exchequer, FOR ONLY THREE MONTHS, & as follows ; -

1. TO stop payment of any kind of Taxes, etc ; Utility bills,etc; to the Govt,( by the proceeds of which, it further makes payments, of pay & allowances, expenses to run their affairs, & to the Defense Forces, National Police, Para-Military Forces, & to the staff of the civil govt.

2) Thus, what Mahatama Gandhi is ‘ said ‘ to have done, before the partition of India, to ‘ make ‘ the British rulersRUN AWAY:IT CAN SIMILARLY BE ACHIEVED in the same manner through, a Civil Disobedience / Non-Cooperation Movement.

3) Thus there is NO NEED to come on-to-the-streets, to be beaten-blue by police batons, or to be shot dead by OWN army & para-military forces !

IS IT NOT WORTH TRYING ? Just a suggestion please !

Can anybody, reading this suggestion, & who has ACCESS to such leaders as mentioned above, to please REVERT BACK, whether it was passed on to them, or whether the appreciated it or not !

Why I strongly feel that the TIME is RIPE, NOW, is BECAUSE whole of the civil
society is ready to march shoulder to shoulder, from Karachi to Khyber on 10 June 08, & they will, WILLINGLY LISTEN to these leaders, who may have the GUTS to do so.

otherwise I am afraid the nation should be PREPARED to face a BLOODY REVOLUTION, which the national, print & electronic media is CRYING HOARSE, since montsh, NOW.

SnrCtzn
Great suggestion, but if it is really implemented it will disable the entire state structure and the napak army will get another pretext to do Meray aziz hum watano. Lawyers dont want a full scale confrontation with PPP-mush camp, but then again confrontation seems inevitable now. PPP is exposed now, the lawyers should stop talking in riddles and point all fingers at PPP for the pro-longed imbroglio.

STAND FOR ISLAM

This short video presentation outlines the array of attacks on Islam from western media, politicians and commentators. These are part of a smear campaign to malign Islam and Muslims. The attacks betray secularism’s xenophobic attitudes and supremacist mind-set - their exact accusations against Islam.

http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/who-is-ht/htb-national-events/video-the-attacks-on-islam.html

Regards

Breaking News….

as per GEO, PPP has admitted that they are giving indemnity to Nov 3 action in their constitutional package.

@revivalist

secularism’s xenophobic attitude? dude …atleast identify who your enemy is correctly…if an apple sins against you….you dont go about saying this shows that all oranges are against you…

perhaps you have a thing against jinnah too? since most people wearing suits and ties are capitalist pigs…therefore all people wearing suits and ties are capitalist pigs…this logic is mind boggling…and myopic to say the least.

revive reason…before anything else…

regards.

@snrctzn
Your sentiments and suggestion are worth praising and respecting. They can even be aired to the leaders you mentioned. Howerver with due respect let me say something.
It is usually very easy to assume that
1. The leaders are usually dumb , they have no brains , they hear only to their advisors (who have vested interests and don’t tell them the truth) , they (leaders) are corrupt and have their own vested interests.

2. At the same time we also assume that we (talking about myself at least) are most intelligent person, we know everything and have the solution to all the ills in the country , we also believe that we can see into the future and if the world acts according to our wishes than everything will turn out as we have wished.

You would see that most of our advisories to these leaders are based on above assumptions. And strangely the assumption one is true for the dictators , they are broght up in army mess , have much lesser intellect than people like yourself , they have no connections with people of Pakistan , they really act on the advice of their advisors who “only” have vested interests and these dictators really are corrupt.

Since our assumption number 1 is true for the military dictators therefore it must also be true for other leaders as well. Isn’t it?

However I personally would say that we need to trust our leaders , they are fighting the battle for us , I don’t say you trust every leader but trust your own leader may it be CJ IMC, NS , AZ or IK. I think all of them have more than an average intellect , and know perhaps little more than us about the realities and they are in touch with people of Pakistan.

Let me clarify that it does not mean at all that we should not raise our voice or advise these leaders that is how they come to know about our sentiments. Only thing is that if our advice is not heeded than it doesn’t mean we are right and they are wrong

P. S. Apologies though I picked your remark to explain something which may actually not apply to your remarks at all.

I could never right as good as this. Perhaps this is what I wanted to say all along. Thanks Dr. Farrukh Salim (BTW can somebody tell me who he is ?)
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=115923

right = write

everyone mush should read it

men kafi dino se soch raha hoon ke abi tak to in ZALIM,BE_DIL or SAFAID KHOON wale SIASAT DONO (pmln& especially PPP ) pe 58-2B ki talwar latak rahi he. lakin jab sadar musharaf dafa ho jae ga to phir kia ho ga. kiyun ke agar siasat ke jisam me dil nahi hota to siasat kerne walo ke pas to dil nam ki bi koi cheez na kabi hui he, na ho sakti he. or apne apne dor-e-haqoomat me ppp or pmln ect ne ye sabit kia he ke na to in dono ke pas koi zameer nam ki cheez he na hi dil he jo kisi ka ehsas ker sake. is bat ka andaza is bat se lagaya ja sakta he ke jo jo bi vote lene ke lie election ke dino me ap ke ghar pe vote lene ke lie jhukk ke salam ker ke vote mangta he,, wohi behooda shakhas muntakhib hone ke bad , ap ko salam kerne ki bajae ap hi ke kie hue salam ka jawab dena bi gawara nahi kerta. to jo minister ya shakhas salam ka jawab de ke apna islami fareeza bi poora nahi kerta , wo ap ka koi farz kesse poora ker sakta he.

bat ye he jo kisi ko nazar nahi aa rahi he . hamari qom ka yahi almiya he ke wo apne mazi ko boola jate hen, bhool jate hen ke kin logo ne in ka ISTEHSAL kia, in ke haqqoq majrooh kie, kin logo ne in ke izzat pe haraf ane dia ya in ki AZMAT ko loota. in ke KHOON PASSENA ki kamai ko loota or haram ki jaga pe lutaya. hamari qom in siasat dano ki purane salooq ko bhool ker bethe hue hen or is khushi men ye bi bhool ge hen ke agar stupid musharaf chala gia to kia ho ga. yahi sisat dan jo ab DAWA dene ka LIBADA orh ker awam ko bhula phisla rahe hen , musharaf ke jane ke bad ye apna KARAKHAT chehra samne layen ge. apni hamdardi or sharafat ka LIBADA utar ker apna asal SAFFAK chehra samne le ayen ge.. ye log shuru se hi zalim, bad kirdar, be-zameer or ameer log hen, in ko roti kapra or makan se kia lena or kia dena…..

in siasat dano ka puran record or saffaqi dekh ker muje ane wala waqat zehan me aata he,, ppp or pmln ne apne apne waqat men KAKHA PAN KE DO NAI KEETA. haqoomat khatam hone ke bad kaha gia ke, JAMHOORI NIZAM KO TO WAQAT HI NAHI DIA GIA, HAM JAMHOORI POWERES KO WAQAT HI KITNA MILA . abi bi farzana raja,qamar zaman kahira , ect kehte hen ke abi thora sa time den, abi to 50 din bi nahi hue haqoomat qayam hue,, to men poochta hoon ke in 50 dino me koi aik kam aisa ho jo kia gia ho to bat theek he,, jo jail me chor the un ko chora gia, taliban ke bande chore ge, purane daketon ko azad kia gia,, ect ect.. awam ke lie kuch kia ?????????????? not at all,, talba union se pabandi utha li gai or students ke hathon me phir clashan kof aa gie he. jin students ko un ke parents college me bhejte hen ke taleem hasil kre, wohi bandooq lie phirta he, wohi student ye nahi sochta ke jab doosra student bandooq jis ke hath me bi bandooq he, wo is ko mar de ga to nateeja siraf yahi nikle ga ke is students ki BEHAN , MAN, ya phir BAAP, rone ki lie reh jae ga,, ye student ka haal he, kis man, behan , ya baap siraf rone ke lie hen, kiyun? is qisam ke college me apna bacha bhejne ke lie man, behan , or baap ko pehle soch lena chahye,,,,

dro us waqat se jab sadar sab dafa ho jaen ge to kia ho ga. kon in siasat dano ko rokke ga , awam ko lootne se. kon in ke KHOONKHAR panjo se nijat dila sake ga,, sadar ke IKHTIYARAT prime minister ko de die jaen ge, kon se wala prime minister, jin ne aj tak koi press confrence nahi ki, jo shokat aziz se bi ziada be-bas or kathputli he, jo zardari ke isharon pe nachta he, asal me ikhtiyarat prime minister ko nahi ZARDARI ko die jane ki bat ho rahi he. or zardari sab se ksis achai ki tawaqqa kerna usi tarha he jis tarha ap kisi booke sher se hiran ke bach jane ki tawaqqa ker lene ki bhool ker bethen. ye ppp or pmln makkar, jhooote, or bhooke log hen, itne salo se jail men the, mulak se bahir the, ab jailon se nikalne ke bad,mulak me atte hi pakistan ki awam ne in logon ko TAKHAT pe bitha dia he,, ppp ko vote dene se pehle ye sochna to chahye tha ke benazir sahiba is dunya me ab nahi hen,, banazir sahiba ko qabar me dagan kerne se pehle hi ppp qabar me uter gai thi, to zardari sab k waqat dena chahye tha ke wo apni sincerity show kerte, ppp ki party ko haqeeqi or awami party sabit kerte, apna mukhlis pan sabit kerte,,,,,,,,, wessa to nahi hua lakin ab dar lag raha he ke musharf ke jane ke bad ab ye log jin ke pas sare ke sare WASAYAL or QUWWAT ho gi, wo awam ka kia hashar kren ge,, booke sher ki tarha awam pe baras pren ge ye log.

awam se guzarish he ke ab musharaf ke jane ke bad sisat dano se apne hashar dekhne ke lie tayar ho jaen. or soch rakhen ke ab neya sadar kon ho ga,, or kon kon se museebat ke pahar awam pe tootne wale hen,, phir to ppp or pmln wale ye na keh saken ge ke, HAMARI HAQOOMAT KE KHILAF SAZISH HO GAI HE, sazishon ka gar to ewan-e-sadar he, JAMHOORIAT KE KHILAF SHAZISH HO RAHI HE,, bla b la bla bla………wesse kaha jata he ke, MAJOO KE YAAR, KOI PHATTO KOI KAMYAR, ppp ki zahant or mukhais pan to is bat se saf wazia he ke un ke masher hen jino ne kabi election ka sahyad nam bi na suna ho jessa ke,, REHMAN MALIK, FAROOQ H NIKE, ect sare kam rehman malik ya phir zardari kerta he to phir PRIME MINISTER sab ka kia kerna he,,,,,,,,un ko bi america ya phir dobara se jail bhej dena chahye ta ke koi aik adh new KITAB likh saken,,jis ka anwan ho ME OR MERI BE-BASI. kitna badla hua or karakhat chehra samne aya he geelani sab ka,,,,,,,,,,,

awam ne ppp or pmln ko bila soche samje vote to de dia he ab to saf bat he ke ap sab aik band glai men hen or samne sher he, ab ap kuch nahi ker sakte, jo kuch bi kerna he sher ne hi kerna he or kre ga bi,,zahir he ab sher GHAAS to nahi kha sakta na , to goshat to siraf ap ka hi mayassar he us band gali men,,,,,,,, chalo in jamhoori taqton ko thora waqat de do pehle ki tarha , phir ye apne apne bank account bhar len ge or PHUURRRRRRRR AMRICA ho jaen ge or awam phir kisi dictator ka intazar kren ge,,

khuda kabi us qom ke halat nahi badalta jis ko apne halat badalne ka ehsas na ho,, jis ki gerat mar gai ho, jo apni azmat or izzat-e-nafs ka khiyal na rakh sakta ho, un ka hal yahi hota he or hata rahe ga.

aoa

we have new dictator in town and he just keeps on smiling and saying we want to change system to make it more efficient in corruption.

sare ikhtiyarat prime minister ko de do or phir in jamhoori taqton ki taraf dekhte raho jin ko na to sadar sab rok saken ge na koi or,,,,,,, or phir awam ka faisla parliment me ho ga, kalabag dam ki tarha..
prime minister sab ko dekh ker wo bat yad aa jati he . school me hote the to aik nazam pra kerte the jis ka unwaan tha, AIK PAHAR OR GULEHRI,, jis ka aik sher he ke jab gulehri pahar ko kehti he ke AIK CHALIYA TO TOR KE DIKHA, to us pahar ka sara guroor dhara ka dhara teh jata he,, prime minister ka rutba or seet to bari he lakin pahar jessi hi misal he ke,, jisam or rutba to pahar jessa he lakin aik CHALIYA tak nahi tor sakta,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

behooda sadar sab ke jane ke bad aik chor se jan chura ker dunya or tareekh ke sab se bare chor ppp ya pmln ke pas jana pre ga,, sadar to aik chor he, lakin ppp wale ya pmln wale to sab se bare tehzeeb yafta chor hen,,,,,,,,,,,,,mqm to DRINDA SIFT jamat he, JUI aik bad-kirdar or BEHOODA jamat he, qazi ke jamat aik MUNAFIQ jamat he,, ANP aik -BE-ZAMEER or matlab prast he,,,,,,,,,,,, akhir kar aik reh jata he,, TEHREEK-E-INSAF. to waqti tor per us pe bhrosa kia ja sakta he,,, imran khan ko thora time de ke chek kerr lene me koi harja nahi he,,
itne bre bre choron, daketon or jahilon ko moqqa dia jata he to is bar imran khan ko bi thora time dena chahye , shayad wo kuch ker sake,, us ko apna ap dikhane ka moqa milna chahye,,,,,,,,,lakin afsos de sath kehna pre ga ke pakistan ke awam siraf uni logon ko vote den ge jo log in ko joote marte hen, jo in ki be-izti kerte hen,,, to phir nizam bi aisa hi rahe ga,,,,,,,,,,,

Can u find ur favorite stripper in this pic:
http://statesman.com.pk/pictures/APP106-31PM-Islamabad.jpg

As if right on cue, not even 60 days into a democratic government, United States puts Pakistan on “Watch List”

Because, you know, they iz wantz “dummocracy” in de Paikesthanz ya know!

@usman: no offense bro, but I think a lot of ppl would appreciate it if u could write this in English or put it in a urdu word processor.. This is really hard to read because everyone writes roman urdu in their own way.

@ riddle792

i looked into the stupid faces of the meeting attenders oh budget preperation, unfortunately i even could not find any face whome can i trust that the comming silly budget will be made according to the people of pakistan. all faces are cursed and behooda.

A good commentary on current state of journalism in Pakistan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/miscellaneous/story/2008/06/080601_baatsaybaat_nj.shtml

With reference to the 70 points constitutional package , as they are cleaning up the whole mess in constitution created by the dictators , I would like to propose one amendment also.
The method of amending the constitution should be amended such that change in any clause of the constitution should be taken as a separate amendment for which a separate bill should be required. At the moment a single bill can be brought up by the parliament , in that bill several articles can be amended in one go. Since all the amendments are bundled into single bill therefore people have to reject or accept the whole bill. After the amendment in order to amend any article of the constitution a separate bill would be required.
Hope someone from Farooq Naik’s team is reading this… or may be PML-N propose this to AZ.

the problem of ur leaders is when they are in trouble or in prison, they are humble and straightforword but as they are released , they start beating about the boasts. they start bla bla bla and foolishness, they become proudy and again start thinking that thier TITANIC will never sink .if all authorities from stupid president are shifted to the prime minister then no one will be able to stop the unbriddled horses, like zardari, n shreef others, PHATTO , MAJA , KAMYAR ect.

prime minister like GEELANI is supposed to do something being a prime minister but it looks as if he does not exist in pakistan. whan has he done so far being a pak prime minister ? he is even worst than shokat aziz. shifting the all laws and authorities from presidency to prime minister is a shifting to the zardari actually. who can give the guaranttee of mr zardari on this earth. he was curropt, he is curropt and he will remain curropt along with rehman malik ect. to stop the unbriddled politions i will oppose shifting the power from president to prime minister. ppp is doing just for this purpose that when all power is shifted to prime minister (zardari) then they will decorate the battle field for the pmln and no one will be able to stop or make a hinderence in thier stupid and behooda actions.

chief justice will be restored but he will nat do anything . he will be grabbed all power and no one will be on the earth or pak who can do any action against anybody who will be in power. and finally KIYANI would love to come and say , MERE AZIZ HAM-WATNO. bla bla bla bla……… he would also like to visit and enjoy world tours and reception from the world. like stupid mushraff,,,,,,,,,so who will be the president of pak next.

even if we will get redeem from this lanti musharaf, in the next step we will be looking someone who can make us get redeem from this be-zameer- be-dil, behooda, jhooti, makkar, ppp zalim pmln lanti qatil league THE BEASTS, ( mqm),,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it is my prophecy.

@izafar
This critique of journalism in Pakistan is long on verbosity and short on arguments. What the Pakistani news channels purvey as news is what gets into a news package of any media organisation that caters to a local audience or community. Based in London, can Wusatullah Khan tell us what issues get bruited about in British newspapers, especially the tabloids and the free papers like Metro, The London Paper and the London Lite. Criticising Pakistani channels for reporting fire incidents or the activities of deposed judges and not giving a perspective on global media trends which have emerged out of a cut-throat competition motivated by corporate/commericial interests is showing only one side of the picture which hardly serves the cause of objectivity and professionalism.

1. EC allows Nawaz Sharif and Shabaz Sharif to contest elections
2. Sheikh Rashid forms new party AWAMI MUSLIM LEAGUE
3. Ijaz ul Haq says judges should be restored and says he is going to join the judicial bus if invited
4. Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi says judges should be restored
5. Zardari gives new constitutional package

PPP Formally Replaces the Q-League
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Today PPP has formally replaced the Q-league. They are granting indemnity to Musharraf’s PCO just like Q-league and MMA passed the 17th ammendement.

Except this time even the Q-league will not support the PPP constitutional package.

Congrats to all PPP jiyalas on this historic day..

i salute media for providing us a MUFT free opportunity to express on issues.

salut of the century goes to the media and then lowyeres alongwith the sivil society,,

lanat of the century goes to the jhooti ppp,, zalim pmln., qatil q league,, the besats, mqm ,, ,munafiq qazi hussain ahmed,, and bad-kirdar, lanit fazul rehman..,,,,

i am not a supporte of any stupid army dictator,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

What’s the conclusion then c hussain?

It was intersting to hear Sh Rasheed prophecize the at the politcal landscape will be transformed in the next few months…….. a clear hint at the restoration of judges.

What’s the conclusion then c hussain?

It was interesting to hear Sh Rasheed prophecise that the political landscape will be transformed in the next few months…….. a clear hint at the restoration of judges.

the next rulers of pakistan should be brought form media, or judititury ect. all polititions from a to z should be hanged on alongwith the army. dictotors,,,,,,

then we will be able to say infact,, AB RAAJ KRE GI KHALQ-E-KHUDA.

@ EVERYBODY,

can anybody tell me , what GEELANI will do when all power will be shifted to him from the president, or can he use hi powers for the betterment of the nation. will the power be given to prime minister instead of zardari ? originaly ? bcz what we have seen so far in the period of stupid geelani is that he can not even eat with his own free will.

i think the power will be used be geelani but geelani SHALL be used be zardari.. in this way zaradri will decorate the battle field for the pmln in country after the process of shifting is completed. this is calle HORSE TRADING. as zardari is has become to used to deal , eat, live with horses so his cabinet is contains on horses like rehman malik, farooq h nike, ect..

i want to know something about geelani sab, what can he do and what will he do ? is he less worst than shokat aziz or more ???????

??? ??? ???? i think geelani sab can give roti kapra or makan to only those people whose wife or husband will commit suicide. when 2,3 members of someone,s family dye , then geelani sab wil go in his house and pay him or her a chek to buy rotti, kapra or makan,,ect….

this is the good, new , distinguish, modern, quick and real way or method to feed the nation, help the nation or rule the nation ………….

it is called JAMHOORIAT.

@ admin

thanks a lot,, for allowing me to express my mind. i live in spain, if u want i can send u some fotocopies of the HEARINGS of ppp, curroption in VALENCIA court of the spain. i want to send u one gift, tell me how can i send it,,,,,

salam to admin and all media.

To those who did not trust my independent analysis of NS return linked to BB’s return, IjazulHaq’s latest appearance in Meray Mutabig seems to support my thesis.

naa na-na naa naa!

@ everybody,, every pakistani,

WAQAT ACHA BI AYE GA NASIR,
GHAM NA KER ZINDAGI PARI HE ABI..

jamhoori quwwatoon ko thora sa time to do, itna waqat to do jab tak ap ke jisam me khoon ka akhri qatra tak mojood he,, mehnat kro or siasat dano ki khidmat kro,, JAMHOORIAT KI KHATIR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

think u’d't watch it:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=8082025&ch=4226714&src=news

From the NYT piece on Aitezaz Ahsan (already linked to): “The Lawyer’s Crusade”

On PPP and Zardari:

“Beyond that, he recognized that the P.P.P. was itself a feudal and only marginally democratic body led by a figure accused of corruption and violence. Zardari, Ahsan told me flatly, “doesn’t want independent judges. He wants dependent judges.”

The article on US hypocrisy Re: the Support of Democracy in Pakistan:

Almost everyone I met in Pakistan asked me some version of the question, “Why is America against Pakistan’s democracy?” It wasn’t easy to come up with a good answer. President Bush had, after all, grandly declared in his second inaugural address that the United States would “seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture.” A mass movement seeking the return of constitutional rule in an Islamic nation would seem to be the answer to the president’s clarion call. And yet the Bush administration had neither publicly nor privately backed the movement to restore the judiciary. American officials offer several explanations. “It’s a sequencing issue,” one senior official explains: Musharraf was to be carefully coaxed to make concessions he could live with, like inviting Benazir Bhutto back from exile and ultimately holding democratic elections. Musharraf could not live with Chaudhry, whose very name induced a fit of spleen. “We didn’t want to see Musharraf humiliated,” as this official, who requested anonymity because she was not authorized to discuss policy formation, says. And the administration feared triggering any process that might lead to the ouster of the general, who had proved willing to wage the war on terror on American terms. Another way of looking at it was that the imperative of the war on terror had trumped the imperative of democracy promotion.

On the American ambassador’s behavriour re: the Judiciary and CJ:

Tariq Mahmood told me that when Anne Patterson, the U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, obliquely suggested to him that an opening might be found for Chaudhry somewhere in the international bureaucracy, he found himself wondering whether he was being asked to offer a bribe to the chief justice of Pakistan. (Patterson declined to comment.) Mahmood told me he described the five-month-long detention of Chaudhry and his family — for which no legal order had been issued — and asked, “Madame, can you conceive as an American that this could happen in your country?” The lawyers were insisting on democratic principles in the face of American realpolitik.

@tk

it was a great read…some of my ppp friends (close to the likes of sherry not stirred) with academic credentials linked to cambridge, harvard and the likes…are silent!! AA rulz!! (thank god for small mercies)

ps: i also hear unconfirmed rumors of dangerous liasions between zarderry and sherdari.

@kafka8: I suspected something of _that_ nature between those two.. but I’m paranoid by nature.. and thankfully most people ignore my babblings

@TK,

Do you also feel something in this pic ?

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/1/f_image003m_960bc67.jpg

@rasheed: I hate that goofy arrogant dubya like smirk on his face.. a smirk that tries to say.. I’m getting away with sh!t and this fools are none the wiser!…”

“Tank Man or the Unknown Rebel is the nickname of the anonymous man who became internationally famous when he was filmed and photographed standing before a line of seventeen or more tanks during the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 in the People’s Republic of China”

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7951501782144625225

Time magazine put in its 100 most important people of the century

I don’t think any body knows what would inspire the nation. Thats what CJ did to Pakistanis.

Dr. AQ Khan speaks to ABC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1TutVsH0tw

Defence Budget in Parliament for the first time

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100417248&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20080601

@Kruman on June 1st, 2008 6:18 pm

What is your source dude?

A Subtle Subversion - The State of Textbooks in Pakistan

Also added to the “Reading List” section (docs)

Kofka8

Bro I have quite well identified who my enemy is. Secularism is in full fledge war against Muslims and Islam and it is evident to everyone having some active brain….

Besides don’t put your words in my mouth. I never said that any body who wear suits is capitalist. Suit is a general dress and anyone can wear it.

Regards

@TK
Don’t know whether anyone mentioned this but does need highliting as well:

“Ahsan is almost recklessly outspoken about P.P.P. leaders, even though they are his own political patrons. He speaks admiringly of Benazir Bhutto’s courage and steadfastness but also points out with disdain that she viewed herself as the P.P.P.’s “life chairperson.” And he does not bother to conceal his dim view of Zardari. In the car, as we drove back through the night to Lahore, I asked him how many of the allegations of corruption he believed were justified. “Most of them,” Ahsan said, after a moment’s reflection. “The type of expenses that she had and he has are not from sources of income that can be lawfully explained and accounted for.” …

@pejamistri
I could never right as good as this. Perhaps this is what I wanted to say all along. Thanks Dr. Farrukh Salim (BTW can somebody tell me who he is ?)
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=115923

From the link you posted:
“Sharif is driven by rage, Zardari by realpolitik. Sharif carries a sword, Zardari his realism.”

Are you and This Dr guy serious? What a crock, I am sorry to say.

Anyways, on the way to work just now ran into YRG leaving his home in Defence. I happened to to the first one the police stopped.

They ordered me to move my car back. I refused and told them to fvck off. I said I thought this b@stard was a popular elected leader so what was he afraid of? They ordered me to move back again. Again I refused and said tell the bastard I am not going to do anything to him for I know he is a nobody who takes orders from Mush and Zardari. One of the policeman complained he hadn’t had decent sleep in three days. Two others were poing their weapons right at me and i told them they should have enough sense not to point their weapons directly at people. They shook their head in agreement and pointed them away. Then the motorcade came and I counted 31 police pickups and suvs, 3 motorcycles, an ambulance and a fire truck accompanying two Mercedes’ (?) and one of the police guys himself said “Getting this protocol no wonder they don’t want to leave the ‘Kursi’!” And I said “I am sure he can feel the pain of the poor driving around like this. What is the difference between him and that MOFO Mush?” As the motorcade was still passing I recited “President Harami/PM Gilani/Speaker Zanani…” and saw all of the policemen were laughing….

Just in: Explosion in Islamabad….

Explosion was outside Denmark embassy/consulate. 3 dead.

@Fahim123,
Geo was playing this news several hours ago.

On AZ and his baji Sherry Rehman’s pic:
Humaray piyar say jalnay lagee hai ik dunya
Dua karo kissi dushman ki bad-dua na lagay

Sherry says AZ put a rakhi on my hand.

Nota, well done!
Stay safe though!

I aksed a jioyala about the pic of AZ and Sherry. The jiyala said:
Thora sa piyar kiya, thora abhi baaqi hai

BTW the jiyala is blunt honest. He says, “Why should we restore the judiciary, what have htey done for us.” Atleast he is honest, not a hypocrite like the PPP leaders.

test…. against moderation

Correction:
Thora sa piyar kiya hai, thora abhi baaqi hai

Can somebody in Pakistan post the link for the Geo stream. I had it stored in my Windows Media Player but I had to reinstall WMP.

The link on Geo’s website says the service is available in Pakistan only. But I know that if you use the actual stream link, it works anywhere in the world.

This is the link
http://www.geo.tv/geoip

@Kruman
“On AZ and his baji Sherry Rehman’s pic”

The word going around here is that right on his return from the graveyard after burying BB, Zardari grab a hold of Sherri and took her to his bedroom….

@Kruman
“test…. against moderation”

I think the worrd hypo_cr_ite in your post did it

@mbokhari

I usually access geo through the following link..

http://live.pakfiles.net/geonews/

@nota,
LOL….you are on a roll today.

Here is another piece I got from the jiyala. According to the jiyala Zardari is an ardent believer in muta (temporary marraige), whether it is with Sherry Rahman or a political alliance with NS, Mush or anyone else.

This is the best description of AZ’s behaviour since Feb 18.

@nota,
AZ is a shy man, he wanted to put the rakhi on in private ……

@nota

I know you are in Pakistan. Can you open this link (http://www.geo.tv/geoip) and check and paste the exact stream link it uses in WMP? (its something like “livestream.something”)

Ibnrazi, thanks for the link but it can’t be resized. Just doesn’t do it for me.

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/mar2008-daily/18-03-2008/index.html

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.

(Chorus)
Glory, glory, khilafah!
Glory, glory, khilafah!
Glory, glory, khilafah!

His truth is marching on.
His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
“As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.”
—————————
The Khilafah has just landed near the Danish Embassy.

The Khilafah is coming to get you. Be very afraid….

Recyclist, would vermin like yourself support or oppose this? (Feel free to consult your beard)

http://stream.wmlivesvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/live_stream_geo_tv_geolive

@nota
Good to hear that you can actually tell the policemen to **** off , and insist on your right to go first. And great here that policemen were actually laughing when you cursed YRG , remember this is what is needed , this is only the first step towards realization of your basic rights. With the pessage of time , people will start taking this kind of protest seriously , there will be a time when you will actually be able to go to the court to sue the prime minister/government for compensation for being delayed. At that time you will rather be less furstrated and more somber while talking to these policemen , and those policemen will be more respectful towards you. Everything is going to happen sooner rather than later.

I can appericiate your hatred (or perhaps furstration) against AZ and PPP, it is quite natural. We have been programmed to hate politicians and at the same time love them. We love one politician and hate the other, I don’t see any problem in that.

Someone asked me “Has my optimism vindicated?” Well if Aitzaz is leading the civil society/lawyers movement, NS is representing anti-establishement forces , Asif Zardari is the chief commander of the battle against establishment , what more I need to be optmist?.

SHABAZ SHARIF HAS BEEN ELECTED UNOPPOSED AS MPA FROM PP 48 BHAKKAR.

CONGRATULATIONS

The reason for consitutional amendment is NRO. Zardari wants that NRO should be given consitutional cover first and then he would be ready to reinstate Iftikhar Chaudhry. PMLN has reportedly agreed to that.

Americans dont want Musharraf to be out and have threatened Pakistan Army against dumping Musharraf with dire consequences including that of derailing the economy and they are doing it.

They want to use Pakistan Army for two purposes - firstly to create similar problems in FATA in pursuit of Al Qaeda and secondly to use bases in Pakistan to attack Iran.

Thats why there is muted resistance to American interference. Army is behind Musharraf and Kiyani knows that. He has been told that he has to behave otherwise he would have to go instead of Musharraf.

what more I need to be optmist?.

army chief has said that army will not be involved….

@mbokhari
“@nota
I know you are in Pakistan. Can you open this link (http://www.geo.tv/geoip)”

Sorry I was on the road… Yes it is working for me here….

@Pejamistri
“Good to hear that you can actually tell the policemen to **** off , and insist on your right to go first. ”
Peja, I have done this before and I do it every chance I get. My getting pissed off has to domore with the fact that I am having to go thru the same shit I had to go thru under Mush but now in the ‘gise of ‘democracy’ for a 2-bit cvnt who can’t f@rt without first asking for permission. (By the way didn’t this very same YRG announce he would be getting rid of the VVIP culture?)

“I can appericiate your hatred (or perhaps furstration) against AZ and PPP, it is quite natural. We have been programmed to hate politician”
s
I don’t HATE politicians. And I did not HATE AZ or PPP. I DO HATE liers and cheats and scumbags and that is what Zardari has proven to be and if PPP is happy to have him as their “GRAND LEADER” then PPP must expect my spit and spite, for it is only natural

@mbokhari
You might also try this that @Ahmed Bhai posted elsewhere. It too is working for me…
http://stream.wmlivesvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/live_stream_geo_tv_geolive

@pejamistri ==> @nota :

“”Asif Zardari is the chief commander of the battle against establishment“

We might as well go home right now.

Anti Muslim “Think Tank” mounts a successful campaign against British Muslims by using FORGED ‘evidence:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2008/05/policy_exchange_dispute_update.html

Muslim “intellectuals” still cutting and posting regurgitated recycled sh!t from brochures.

BRAVO!

p.s. Notice how a complete LIE exposed is called a mere “dispute” …????

@peja,
I have a lot respect for you. You are one of the best bloggers on pak politics in the blogosphere. I realize that sometimes you like to put a pro-AZ spin on events.

But PLEASE spare such outlandish crap:
“Asif Zardari is the chief commander of the battle against establishment“

asif zardari is a very MEESNA sisatdan, he was never sincer with the pak, he is not sincer with the pak and he will never be able to be sincer with pak people… he is just making all CHOR and beasts his friends to get redeem from MUSHRAFFA , and then he will decorate the battle field agains the pmln with stupid , anp, jui, and beasts mqms……..ect..

u can see the MUNAFIQAT, besharmi, begarti, GRUDGE, and SAFFAQ PAN in the face of zardari while he BARKS in front of media,,,,,,,,,,,

this is even fault and champion blunder of the media to give so much coverage to this stupid zardari, US KI ITNI OQAT NAHI HE , NA THI, NA HO GI,
i am not supporter of pmln ect.

Aitzaz Ahsan denying part of NY-Times interview:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2008/06/080602_aitzaz_nyt_rr.shtml

@Peja:
—
… Asif Zardari is the chief commander of the battle against establishment , what more I need to be optmist?.
—

You need to immediately stop smoking whatever you have been taking. What a load of crap argument this is.

@

amir hameed

dont take this Mistri as serious…he will stick to his self made , fake, baseless story of PPP Vs establishment and will try to prove PPP as a holy cow from heaven..

i m really happy that now this mistri guy is totally exposed .by the way this mistri guy belong to Nusrat Javen and Abbas ather`s crap school of thought who also try to prove PPP`s greatness and in return they are bashed by audience and even their own colleagues…

anyway this PPP vs establishment story has no market value anymore and majority of people know the truth…

The former ISI chief Let-Gen (rtd)Jamshed Kayani has confessed in an 2 hour long exclusive interview to Shahid Masood that phosphosrus bombs were used in the Lal Masjid operation and Nawaz Sharif was not briefed about the Kargil plan.

He also claimed/admitted that there were no passengers in Musharraf’s plane that was allegedly hijacked by the then civilian government at the orders of PM Nawaz Sharif.

sorry admin for posting the same post in two different threads.

Salaam,i pledge to follow the rules and expect encouraging reaction from senior bloggers,my views can never be the final and complete word but few drops in the ocean of comments.i would like to start with some good news,Pakistan still exists on the world map and millions of people are still living in Pakistan.i hope thats a positive,brilliant and fantastic reality which no one can ignore,i wish a better future for my people,my country,thanks for reading and i shall continue to provide more good news as an ordinary citizen about extra-ordinary Pakistan.

Anyone’s got the text of the proposed “Nau Man tael” package?

Since everyone keeps talking about Pakistan being like Iran of 78 (methinks it’s more like 53 .. but I digress) I thought this little purro-giraam will be a good listen in case yer bored stiff for some reason (realplayer needed):

“All the shah’s men” : On Point (with Tom Ashbrook)

The Daily Times, Wednesday, 30 July 2003

Who strangled Miss Jinnah?

This is the ‘Year of Fatima Jinnah’ In Pakistan. A former bodyguard of Miss Jinnah (1893-1967) announced to the world on January 11: “To pay homage to the younger sister of the founder of Pakistan as a crusader for democracy, we will remember her by celebrating 2003 as the Year of Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah”. The bodyguard is one Mir Zafarullah Khan Jamali. He still looks the part. And he happens to be Pakistan’s prime minister.

Just when you started snoozing, listening to the same old speeches on Miss Jinnah, out came the shocking news last week that she may have been murdered. Madar-i-Millat (Mother of the Nation) murdered! “Former attorney general of Pakistan and ‘honorary’ secretary of the Quaid-i-Azam from 1941 to 1944, Mr Sharifuddin Pirzada, has revealed outside a conference-room in Islamabad that Miss Fatima Jinnah did not die a natural death in 1967 but was probably murdered by a servant of hers,” (Daily Times editorial, Out with the truth about Miss Jinnah, July 23, 2003).

Pakistani commentators seem ‘astounded’ by the ‘strange’ claims and ‘rumours’ spread by Pirzada (The News, editorial, July 23, 2003). Let us not forget that Pirzada is Prime Minister Jamali’s senior advisor, and that Jamali is the one who declared this as the Year of Fatima Jinnah. There may be some wisdom in letting the full story of Miss Jinnah’s death come out in the year dedicated to her memory. As the Daily Times editorial put it, “Let the truth about the death of Miss Jinnah be known after proper investigation of the claim made by Mr Pirzada and let us put the case to rest once and for all”.

The story about Miss Jinnah’s death is not a new one. Below is an extract from an earlier Cam Diary. “Jinnah’s sister had the habit of locking her bedroom door and leaving the keys under the door in the morning for the housemaid to enter and attend to her. On the tragic day there were no keys and the door remained shut. Nobody dared enter. As a very close friend of Jinnah and Fatima, MAH Ispahani was called to the house.

“MAH entered the room and found Fatima dead. It is reported that Fatima had been strangled! There were strangulation marks on her neck. This was apparently hushed up at the time by Ayub’s military regime. It will be remembered that Fatima was standing as presidential candidate against Ayub. Was she a sufficient threat to the military for her to be got rid of in such a brutal way? Shocking if true.”

Masud Akhtar Shaikh writes in his recent column in The News (Political murders: a bloodstained tradition?) that Pirzada’s story ‘does lend conviction to the hypothesis that Miss Jinnah was a victim of political murder and did not die a natural death’ and that the manner of the cover-up ‘shows a definite link between the high-ups in the Ayub Khan regime and the crime.’

Qutbuddin Aziz, a former diplomat has dismissed Pirzada’s claim. The News reported last week that “He (Aziz) said Fatima Jinnah died in the morning of July 9,1967 and he along with his mother reached Mohatta Palace around 9 am. He said there was a red mark on the neck of Fatima Jinnah but not a cut or signs of bleeding”.

On the Fatima-Ayub rivalry, Zamir Niazi says in his book Press in Chains, “During the crucial presidential election in 1964 when Miss Fatima Jinnah agreed to challenge Ayub Khan as a candidate of the Combined Opposition Parties, the APP coverage of the election campaign had a definite tilt in favour of the Field Marshal.”

Writing in the letters section of Dawn last week, Mahmudul Aziz of Karachi, said: “Madar-i-Millat stood up for democracy in the face of overwhelming odds. The nation remembers and adores her for that courage of conviction and the strength to stand up against a dictator at a time when most in the country feared Ayub Khan. Madar-i-Millat lost the presidential election through the manipulation of the establishment of the day…”

Of the many e-mails received on this topic last week, one was from Dr Ghulam Nabi Kazi. He says: “It is high time that the nation attains a level of maturity whereby it can come to terms with certain realities and attempt to address certain unanswered questions relating to her (Miss Jinnah’s) life… The lady was ostracized, persecuted and marginalized to a point that people had even forgotten about her existence when she decided to take on Field Marshal Ayub Khan in the 1964 presidential elections. The manner in which the elections were conducted and their unfortunate aftermath are known to all”.

Dr Kazi ponders, “What is the real truth? Will the teeming millions of Pakistan ever be considered worthy enough of being taken into confidence about these pranks played by a few chosen ones? And those naïve people amongst us who think that our Press is free should reconsider their opinion. The real truth is simply not for consumption of the ordinary mortals in Pakistan”.

In his column “Second Opinion: Why don’t people write memoirs?” (Daily Times, May 30, 2003), Khaled Ahmed noted that “Fatima Jinnah was the first to write; we had to censor her autobiography because it ‘revealed’ too much too soon in our history”. Tanwir Ahmed, wrote in a letter to the editor printed in The News, “Syed Sharifuddin Pirzada has caused tremendous grief, shock and awe to the already depressed nation. Will the people of Pakistan ever know the true history of their own nation?”

It is unlikely that the people of Pakistan will come to terms with their true history without being subjected to ‘grief, shock and awe’. And who strangled Miss Jinnah? Even if not physically throttled, she was strangled by the ‘system’. Like millions of ordinary people every day.

— Sir Cam, Cambridge, England

Breaking News: Cricketer Muhammad Asif arrested on Dubai Airport cz of illegal drugs possession.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jun2008-daily/03-06-2008/update.htm#12
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/353425.html

Update: Muhammad Asif was in possession of Opium at Dubai Airport.

@ Riddle792
I think he will be saved by the our authorities, as our authorities are always ready to involve themselves in such issues.

i would like to draw the attention towards the strange logic put forward by top-shots admitting themself that the religious-muslim groups in pakistan carried out the danish embassy attack to avenge the blasphemous cartoons.I am just trying to understand that WHY ISLAMABAD?not anywhere else?why do we forget that our neighbours are not our friends anymore?why should any talib kill an innocent person?how the people of Fata can be a threat to US homeland security? Alas,we are not living in a perfect world but at least we must try to know thase Whole truth and nothing but the truth.History starts from today,lets take another chance and extend an olive branch as honestly as we did to china,its never too late,thanx for reading my comments.

Mr. MBO Khaaali

You proved again by posting a babyish and daft post that you are indeed a khali khopree:-)…….. People must be enjoying your silly jokes. Keep