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	<title>Comments on: Column Kaar &#8211; 7 June 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bhai</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-91156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bhai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>preserve video ? 

common @dmin :) you need premier members to meet your running cost / survival and you try to preserve it for next generation ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>preserve video ? </p>
<p>common @dmin <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  you need premier members to meet your running cost / survival and you try to preserve it for next generation ?</p>
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		<title>By: admin pkpolitics</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-91073</link>
		<dc:creator>admin pkpolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free version added.</description>
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		<title>By: waqar6</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-91068</link>
		<dc:creator>waqar6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin when is free version gona be available? I think it is more then 24 hours now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin when is free version gona be available? I think it is more then 24 hours now.</p>
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		<title>By: admin pkpolitics</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-91029</link>
		<dc:creator>admin pkpolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Everyone,

Few remarks:

- The main focus of pkpolitics is to preserve videos for the next generations and everything else is secondary. This cannot be achieved on public video hosting service and we have to look for small number of loyal visitors who can contribute towards operational costs.

- There are 15-20% of videos that are recorded, preserved and never put online due to lack to resources.

- Our video team is currently doing the videos for 8-10 hours daily. It is already very late in Pakistan when programs finish and they don&#039;t do any free videos. I (admin) spend my free time in adding free videos.

- The reason for putting some free videos online earlier than others is only by topics and my free time. I don&#039;t punish visitors by putting boring episodes for free and interesting episode only on premium in first 24 hours. It is very easy for me to convert premium video on pkpolitics server (amazon) to free one immediately, but that costs me $100 per video to just cover the bandwidth costs. Putting the video on blip takes costs me time (around 20 minutes per video) and I occasionally do that when some hot episode is aired even if I have to sacrifice portion of my sleep.

- We are not in competition with anyone. We stayed on top for 10 continuous month and brought nothing but free videos, but this model was not sustainable.

- The number of comments and visitors are continuously increasing and premium membership did not change anything.

- The reason for banning links from other sites is that many of them were either stealing our videos or putting comments here like &quot;pkpolitics is shit, watch free video here ...&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Everyone,</p>
<p>Few remarks:</p>
<p>- The main focus of pkpolitics is to preserve videos for the next generations and everything else is secondary. This cannot be achieved on public video hosting service and we have to look for small number of loyal visitors who can contribute towards operational costs.</p>
<p>- There are 15-20% of videos that are recorded, preserved and never put online due to lack to resources.</p>
<p>- Our video team is currently doing the videos for 8-10 hours daily. It is already very late in Pakistan when programs finish and they don&#8217;t do any free videos. I (admin) spend my free time in adding free videos.</p>
<p>- The reason for putting some free videos online earlier than others is only by topics and my free time. I don&#8217;t punish visitors by putting boring episodes for free and interesting episode only on premium in first 24 hours. It is very easy for me to convert premium video on pkpolitics server (amazon) to free one immediately, but that costs me $100 per video to just cover the bandwidth costs. Putting the video on blip takes costs me time (around 20 minutes per video) and I occasionally do that when some hot episode is aired even if I have to sacrifice portion of my sleep.</p>
<p>- We are not in competition with anyone. We stayed on top for 10 continuous month and brought nothing but free videos, but this model was not sustainable.</p>
<p>- The number of comments and visitors are continuously increasing and premium membership did not change anything.</p>
<p>- The reason for banning links from other sites is that many of them were either stealing our videos or putting comments here like &#8220;pkpolitics is shit, watch free video here &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90997</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sleepingnation: I am one of those people and I feel no qualms about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sleepingnation: I am one of those people and I feel no qualms about it.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90996</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kafka8: or don&#039;t bother and don&#039;t discuss what you can&#039;t see and go home feeling all pi$$ed off...

sound/video is the kernal around which the discussion grows which should be monetized not the offering of the video because any group of people sufficiently motivated can do exactly that. 

it&#039;s not about the video&#039;s it&#039;s all about the conversations (IMO) but maybe I&#039;ve got it wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kafka8: or don&#8217;t bother and don&#8217;t discuss what you can&#8217;t see and go home feeling all pi$$ed off&#8230;</p>
<p>sound/video is the kernal around which the discussion grows which should be monetized not the offering of the video because any group of people sufficiently motivated can do exactly that. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s not about the video&#8217;s it&#8217;s all about the conversations (IMO) but maybe I&#8217;ve got it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: sleepingnation</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90994</link>
		<dc:creator>sleepingnation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;competitors&quot; upload videos even before premium members see those on pkpolitics.. so some of premium members also visit &quot;competitors&quot; and say bundle of thanks to them ....yes atleaST for me quality is not important as long as i can understand the talk

anyway my sincere suggestion is that videos should be made available as per rules after 24 hours in any case..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;competitors&#8221; upload videos even before premium members see those on pkpolitics.. so some of premium members also visit &#8220;competitors&#8221; and say bundle of thanks to them &#8230;.yes atleaST for me quality is not important as long as i can understand the talk</p>
<p>anyway my sincere suggestion is that videos should be made available as per rules after 24 hours in any case..</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90992</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kafka8: free vids provided by competitors.

pkpolitics is losing commentors because people are watching videos of questionable quality somewhere else much sooner and by the time there is that vid posted here the iron&#039;s not hot anymore...

@sleepingnation: the reason there is a discrepency is because they&#039;re in all probability short of resources (as in HUMAN BEINGS) who can post all this.. so they pick and choose based on teh noise made by users, but it has a nasty effect of turning people off and introducing making it a psychologically unpleasant experience.. 

I would again say stop offering videos, just offer MP3&#039;s and charge smaller flat fee to EVERYONE ... offer a 5 minute clip as a freebie. but do it on time.. because these things are time critical..

who&#039;s gonna come back 2 days later to comment on old news? the focus ought to move from being &quot;teh premier politics video site&quot; to &quot;the premier politics news and discussions site which also provides latest news&quot;

frankly, unless it is the chairmain of CBR dancing around or Kashmala doing a little Thumka on TV, I don&#039;t care for the video of people. It&#039;s a waste of diskspace, time and bandwidth.

just my 2c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kafka8: free vids provided by competitors.</p>
<p>pkpolitics is losing commentors because people are watching videos of questionable quality somewhere else much sooner and by the time there is that vid posted here the iron&#8217;s not hot anymore&#8230;</p>
<p>@sleepingnation: the reason there is a discrepency is because they&#8217;re in all probability short of resources (as in HUMAN BEINGS) who can post all this.. so they pick and choose based on teh noise made by users, but it has a nasty effect of turning people off and introducing making it a psychologically unpleasant experience.. </p>
<p>I would again say stop offering videos, just offer MP3&#8242;s and charge smaller flat fee to EVERYONE &#8230; offer a 5 minute clip as a freebie. but do it on time.. because these things are time critical..</p>
<p>who&#8217;s gonna come back 2 days later to comment on old news? the focus ought to move from being &#8220;teh premier politics video site&#8221; to &#8220;the premier politics news and discussions site which also provides latest news&#8221;</p>
<p>frankly, unless it is the chairmain of CBR dancing around or Kashmala doing a little Thumka on TV, I don&#8217;t care for the video of people. It&#8217;s a waste of diskspace, time and bandwidth.</p>
<p>just my 2c.</p>
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		<title>By: kafka8</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90990</link>
		<dc:creator>kafka8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but tk makes a valid point...

go tk go!!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but tk makes a valid point&#8230;</p>
<p>go tk go!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kafka8</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2008/06/07/column-kaar-7-june-2008/#comment-90989</link>
		<dc:creator>kafka8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pay to discuss what you see...is what it says..

however the cost of a red star ain&#039;t really that much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pay to discuss what you see&#8230;is what it says..</p>
<p>however the cost of a red star ain&#8217;t really that much&#8230;</p>
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