Nazir Naji….what a waste of time he is….
“ANP does not know the ground reality in NWFP”…
They are born,brought up and lived their whole life there and they do not know ground reality.And this so called analyst(Naji) who i do not think ever pass furthur than peshawar know the ground reality.Its ok to be on payroll of every govt but speak something that make sense a little bit…

what a waste of money for the last 60 years. if we can’t even defend our territory what was the point of spending all that money on our armed forces.

please check this programme
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHBdd3haMGY

Mir sahib did far better than talat or any other anchor in this program. atleast gave us some clear points.
well done

Fatemi is the most articulate and level headed.

why naji… there must be some reason..

@aftab: but the money was well spent! just ask any luxury real estate dealer in Rio, Miami, New York, Amsterdam, Zurich and countless other places where palatial properties tend to only appreciate in value!

Bummer for the “pakistani’s” that the loans were in their names… but no matter, the loans will be ‘written off’ when your country breaks, in return for your writing over your Nukes and the sovereignty on land, minerals, air, water etc.

Hai jurm-e za’eefi ki sazaa marg-e mafaajaat.

@diamondcut
You have misquoted Naji and added “in NWFP” from your own side. Shame. Check @ 18:00

Nazir Naji….what a waste of time he is….
“ANP does not know the ground reality in NWFP”…

but Naji is an dumbass anyways “ab robot utraiN gay”…….gadha

Ever wonder why that Zaid Hamid IDIOT is never invited to the real talkshows ?? (as opposed to this Pakistan Tabloid Vision channel thing)

or am I not giving his re-hashing of “the protocols” enough credit?

@ TK

I am wondering why are you harsh on Zaid Hamid ? Anything personal ?

@ SnrCtzn

I am presuming that you have not studied psychology otherwise you would not have asked such question.

You would have got your answer from the concepts of “Projective Identification” and “NPD”…….

Ladies & Gentlemen

Here is a view on American attack:

From Bajaur to Karachi

By Adnan Gill

As the kingmakers play musical chairs in Dubai and London, the emperors of the New World Order iron out plans to reshape Pakistan. It is not a question of whether US/Nato will enter into Pakistan to clean up the alleged sanctuaries of Taliban and al Qaeda; it is, according to some critics, a matter of when.

It seems to be a serious situation. As we speak, the US is beefing up its military closer to the Pakistani shores. Recently, the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln was repositioned from the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman. Telecommunication services on the border areas with Afghanistan are suspended. US troops have amassed heavy weapons and established camps close to the border around Kurram Agency and North Waziristan tribal regions. US gunship choppers are also seen giving air cover to the troops and routinely violating Pakistani airspace. Lately, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, had been busy warning that the terrorists hiding in the mountainous border region between Afghanistan and Pakistan are planning their next attack on the US. Then, as if doing a favour, US sent Adm. Mullen to deliver a final warning to Pakistan.

However, that would be the least problem for the Pakistanis, if it ended there. There are other ominous developments in the region that individually do not amount to much, but collectively they will test Pakistan’s survival. Like starving vultures, there are several parties – nurtured and groomed by the Americans — waiting in wings for the US. As usual, the US military build-up was preceded by the diplomatic equivalent of hysteria, ‘sky is falling’. In Brussels, the US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, “We have been very clear that this is a matter for Pakistan to decide”. Can they effectively do the job? British Foreign Secretary David Miliband also parroted Washington’s line. Ironically, even people who are too afraid to leave the security of their palaces, like the Afghan President Hamid Karzai, also mustered enough guts to threaten Pakistan with sending in his army to finish the Taliban.

Around mid 1990s, media widely reported several torture cells ran by the then Muhajir Qaumi Moverment (MQM) and maps of Jinnahpur were discovered from the MQM offices. MQM denied the existence of such maps, but neutral observers believe the MQM was indeed envisioning a separate state for the muhajirs. Jinnahpur would have included two of the largest Pakistani cities, Karachi and Hyderabad. Soon after, the founder of MQM, Altaf Hussain, ran out of Pakistan to live in self-exile in the UK. Last May, when the MQM hooligans set lawyers’ offices on fire, they repeatedly chanted, “Karachi belongs to whom? To MQM!”

Conspicuously, the Americans with a mission to eradicate terrorism from the face of the earth recently found a new appreciation for militant parties like the MQM. Few months ago, the US Ambassador to Pakistan Anne W. Patterson flew to London to meet the MQM Chief Altaf Hussain. Her meeting with Altaf raised more than a few eyebrows over the new-found love between the US and the MQM.

Similarly, Baloch separatist Nawabs are also aspiring for their own state. They are openly soliciting help from India and the US to break Balochistan off Pakistan, “we would welcome anybody, India or even devil himself.” Secessionists Sadars like Sardar Akhtar Mengal and Nawab Sardar Brahamdagh Khan Bugti are still vowing to sever Balochistan from Pakistan.

More recently, a bomb exploded outside the Indian embassy in Kabul. Immediately afterwards, Pakistan was blamed for it. Then years of calm was broken when some so-called unknown men from the Indian side of the LoC opened fire on the Pakistani soldiers; but the Indian army accused Pakistan of “resorting to unprovoked firing”. Taking a queue from the Americans, could India also be positioning herself to attack Pakistan? But it was the Karachi Mayor Mustafa Kamal’s startling remarks that let the cat out of the bag. His secessionist comments confirmed what many suspected for years. At a businessmen’s dinner in honour of President Musharraf, he told the audience that they should not pull their money out of Karachi, because “if they return after six months or one year the region and its geography may not be the same”. Thanks to this one statement, MQM’s vision became crystal clear.

As recent as a couple of months ago, Kamal was given a star treatment at the US State Department where he was also accorded a 40-minute meeting with the Assistant Secretary Richard Boucher. His trip to the US was a follow-up of a visit to Karachi by the Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and Richard Boucher. CNN’s correspondent Zain Virje summarized his trip as, “The mayor of Karachi is a guest with a mission.” Lahore’s mayor Mian Amer Mahmood was also in the US but he was not given a treatment even close to what Nazim Kamal received.

In an interview with Steve Inskeep of the NPR’s Morning Edition (aired on June 5, 08), Kamal’s racist commentary hardly left any doubt in anybody’s mind about the ‘mission’ of the MQM. Steve Inskeep comments, “Karachi’s mayor considers these ethnic Pashtoons a mortal threat… (who) are plotting to takeover his city.” In an attempt to create ethnic divisions and to prove that only MQM qualifies to be the sole Pakistani secular partner of the Americans, Kamal is heard saying, “These Pashtoons means what? Pashtoons means like fundamentalists. Religiously fundamentalists, religiously extremists. They are coming in… When it comes to ethnicity they all are (the terrorists).”

Then the nazim drove the reporter past some Islamic schools and a house where Daniel Pearl was found dead. Nazim then pointed to a bearded man in a window, as if he wanted to show a terrorist’s face, and says, “Look at him. look at his face.” To make a point that Pashtoons were plotting the locations of these settlements to block his party’s plans for the city, he adds, “It is a very strategic location… the super highway is there. They can control the highway,” to which the reporter inquires, if their plan was in contrast to his own strategic plan? The nazim responded in affirmation, “They definitely had a master plan before me.” Perhaps, Mr. Inskeep was not briefed by the State Department to be sympathetic to MQM’s cause, or probably the seasoned reporter saw through Nazim’s bigoted claims. The reporter explained that he had met many locals from slums and realised that “(Pashtoons) had no master plan beyond their next meal”.

To top off MQM’s apathy for the Pashtoons, a string of remotely triggered bombs exploded in the Pashtoon dominated areas of Karachi. Experts believe remotely triggered bombs are MQM’s preferred method of bombing. A message was delivered; Pushtoons will not have any room in Jinnahpur.

There are multiple opportunists, like the MQM and Karzai, sharpening their claws in an anticipation of Americans to wound Pakistan. These opportunists have been carefully nurtured by the Americans. Courtesy these opportunists Pakistan is already facing extremism from Bajaur to Karachi. What remains to be seen is whether the Americans will throw a bone to these hyenas or not?

http://thepost.com.pk/Previuos.aspx?dtlid=172278&src=Adnan Gill&date=15/07/2008

LOL at Nazir Naji …..

ab to yahan ROBOT utrainge….

Looks like he watches a lot of movies.

In this situation our leaders are acting like Pakistan is not their country, they have proved, that they are insensitive, don’t care, or don’t understand or don’t have capablity to understand, what is going around us, and what to do in this terrible situation????

This is also true and bad luck of the nation, that they got useless leaders and who are unfit to solve our today’s problem..

“aik dafa ka ziker, hey kay kisi jungle ki dalhwan per beber shair paani pi raha tha, bakeri (goat) ka bacha uss dalhwan kay nichey paani pi raha thaa shair bahadur ney kahan, aey tum kiyun mera paani ghanda ker rahey ho, bachey ney kaha, janab paani toh aap sey ho ker muj tak aata hey, shair sahab garum ho gaiy aur bachey ko khalia, aur kaha kay tumhari maa ney bi yahi galti ki thee”.

Nazir Naji, seems to be collecting “lifafa”, from hidden hands, some people care more of thier old age benefit assurance then their own “aakbet”. People like Naji think other peoples are stupid and don’t understand his motive.

Mr. Tanvir Ahmed Khan is right, there is steak, of other country/s is/are also in Pakistan too beside west. Nobody knows how long or upto what limit other/s will keep quiet !!! Before they run ou of their patients.

mulla hamid mir in full swing

http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2008-daily/17-07-2008/col5.htm

@democratkirooh on July 17th, 2008 8:43 am

Yet another “mullah without a beard”? What is the criteria for such labels? Oppostion to the GRAND TRAITIOR Mush and allies?

Steak!!! mmmmm!

@shirkuh: don’t mind the munafiq qatil movement media cell … they are out from under their rock cuz Imran Khan is in London, and every time he’s there, they get scared their kaali Maataa might lose her British Nationality. so they are going around talking shiite!

they’ll settle down, like pi$$ foam, rather quickly.

@TK on July 17th, 2008 9:16 am

I’m also a little confused. Is he talking about Bovine spongiform encephalopathy?

@SnrCtzn: nope, nothing personal, that guy’s a total douchebag snake oil seller. The alarming thing is that he’s got such a following.

@Adonis: “Projective Identification” and “NPD” eh? Sez the guy who calls himself “Adonis”

No issues there I’m sure. None whatsoever. I just hope you weren’t introduced to these terms as you were being dumped.

P.S. Here is a handy link to help you with the severe case of ellipsisitis. Cheers!

@shirkuh: I know! running out of patients could be kaTTa-strophic!

@TK

KaTTa-Strophic….That’s a good one

Here is my “proof” that something is totally rotten….Maybe it is
the KaTTa-disease BullShitEngagement (BSE)

I know it’s an old one, but it’s has become a classic "movie"

The UN Secretary General must take notice if he is in charge of the peace and stability in the whole world that the foremost terrorist organisation is only American CIA and that CIA has been involved to promote the terrorism in Afghanistan and in Pakistan for long time. This evil organisation is financing and educating the terrorists in our Pushtoon tribal region and then these terrorists are equipped with the arms and ammunitions to create the sectarian violence overall in our Pushtoon region and especially in Kurram Agency where there are Sunni and Shia sects living together. There are no doubts that CIA is also involved in political instability not only in Pakistan but also in the other under developed countries like in India and in Sri Linka.I again warn the other NATO member countries that if there any war like situation happens or imposed in our Pushtoon region then the whole NATO will be responsible because we will then fight against those who will fight against us. Therefore I will again say that the ANP government in Pushtoonkhwa is doing their excellent job to wash –out the foreign terrorist elements that are being financed by the Evil American agencies through drug mafia in our peaceful Pushtoon tribal region. The leadership of the Awami National Party has the ability to solve every conflict through dialogues with the local pushtoon tribes and that ANP must be given free and fair chance to do its job according to the Pushtoon norms and culture. We are democratic and peaceful nation, we are not barbarians and we are not non-cultured nation as the stupid Americans.
Engineer Muhammad Irfan khan Momand
Irfan188@hotmail.com
Germany

PM is wrong and does not know how to use diplomatic language. Matching Pakistan’s tribal area with9/11 is very wrong..Can someone In Pakistan teach him how to talk at international forum. Let Riaz Khokar be the Foreign Minister and teach Gilani how to act as PM. Come out of Zardari’s influence as well, which may not be possible.