Hamid mir is a straight Ladin fan, a sad thing! Look the way he adress ladin. These actions of this TV are very dangerous.

What a publicity program for Alqaida, sham on Jang group!

hi khukoo…….does al qaida really exists?????

Al-qaida’s mindset is f(_)CK3|) UP. Their mentality is not that of a normal person. They are all Arabs (Saudis, Egyptians, etc) not afghanis or iraqis but after U.S’s fake war on terror turned into invasions of the countries, these alqaidas have spread their mentality widely in the regions. These alqaidas are liars, they want us to get involved (as we already are) in this stup!d f!ght.

I completely agree with Irfan Siddique that it is not “authentic”. I don’t understand this commander’s message that “they” did 9/11. I don’t think that he even knows himself that his “group” did it! And yes Hamid Mir is right that Osama never accepted it before 2004. Can you f(_)CK!|\|G get into the U.S. security that easily? that big of a GLITCH?????????? WTF is wrong with everyone. Think logically!

I 101% AGREE WITH TAIMUR……..OUR PEOPLE DIDN’T UNDERSTAND..WE R STILL SLEEPING ALQAIDA IS PART OF CIA AND WE R NOT SURE IF OSAMA IS ALIVE OR DEAD……..Y WE R KILLING OUR OWN PEOPLE FOR FEW DOLLARS?????

There is Nothing named Alqaida.Real terrorists are Bush, israel and Mush their cheaply hired dog. Wake up Muslims before you talk against muslim fighters.
They are fighting to protect you and me from crusaders. if you cant stand up , atleast have the guts to shut up.Crusaders and zionists are out to eliminate islam and muslims.

Hamid Mir is a bozo and his three guests are even bigger morons. The sad thing is the reverence they show Al Qaeda , specially Professor Moronathon of Islamic University. I mean dude, go and join them, why are you wasting your time at the university?

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Assalam-o-Alakum,

Recent interview telecast from Geo TV was not at all any impact on the present condition of tribal areas belt near Afghan and Pakistani border. I personally failed to understand from the statement given by the Najeeb Ahmed reporter from the geo tv based in Karachi to anchor Kamran Khan.

As per his statement, a palestanian friend and class fellow from Karachi University just met him, and due to his help and assistance he luckely got the opportunity after three months to have chance to have the one to one interview of the key player of Al- Qaida in Afghaistan Mustafa Abu Yazeed Sheikh Saeed, it looks very fake statement which is difficult to accept as far as I am concerned. This whole statement give the overall impression to the viewers that Najeeb Ahmed did not put much effort to get a valueable and high ranked object under the camera directly for the entire world at that time when their locations are un-indentified for U.S. Intelligence Agencies. It also gives the strong impression that Al-Qaida was looking for some one from any leading tv to cover this story which gives the booast to their cause and recruitment in Afghanistan and Pakistan or in near surroundings.

First of all, I have a strong belief that United States of America is a very strong and secure intelligence minded government. Taken cared by highly trained and qualified dedicated officials in all major air,sea and road check points to safe guard the country except two borders of Mexico and Canada which was never ever thought the threat to the U.S.A. before the 9 / 11 incidents.

Lets come back to the interview, why just before the Presidential Election of America once again an interview get aired by the Mustafa Abu Yazeed Sheikh Saeed and reminded all those things which was taken responsibility by the Osama Bin Laden and Amen Al-Zarquari in 2004 to make convince their followers that Al-Qaida is so strong that they can crush United States and get defeat them in United States when ever they want, but this is un-real and more than impossible. This is true that the Al-Qaida have a trained and highly motivated group of people in all over the world especially in Urab countries like Egypt, Syria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Algeria , Labenese etc. etc., which are good operatives and masterminds of the terrorist activities and suiside planners as well as they have very genuine diehard volunteers from tribal areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan known as Mujahideens and lateron as Talibans from either side of the border who are fully capable to make severe damages to the American forces and other allied forces and their operatives in most of the countries where allied forces are aggresively attacking the innocent muslims for no reasons like Lebanon, Kashmir, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan at this present situation.

I am agreed, with the statement of prominent columnist Irfan Siddique that Al-Qaida and Ossama Bin Ladin is not capable to plan and exicute any attack like 9 / 11. My brain does not accept , even though Ossama claimed that he and his devoted people belongs to Saudi Arabia attack twin towers and other important building like Pantegon Building. Yes it is possible that these muslim people were used and given access by the security agencies of the United States delebrately to do this ugly job and they were highly paid by some organisation same like Ossama Bin Laden was working for CIA and received Billions and Trillions of dollars from the U.S. Administration during the USA and USSR war in Afghanistan and getting all kind of support and finance from President of United States directly and he used to be the state guest and meet the top leadership and high ranked services chiefs and get briefings in White House.
This is a reality, which have several time confirmed publically by the services chiefs as well as chief of intelligence services of Pakistan.

The main point at this present condition is to give the clear message to the U.S. administration that we dont care Al-Qaida or Mujadeens or Talibans who are in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. If our army can make these elements for tons of money financed by the U.S. Administration few years back ……. still Pakistan army is capable to crush these elements once for ever if they cause trouble for Pakistan and nabouring countries as well as United States and allied forces if they were get financed like before in trillions of dollars un-conditioned to bring change in tribal areas, but internationally people have to differenciate in between the innocent tribal people setteled near the tribal belt on across the border and the terrorist eliments in a small quantity mixed in that erea which need clean operation with the help and assistance of those local tribals without causing any bloodshed through the ground operation not by the surgical strikes or by the un-man planes strikes. But the most important thing is to change the attitute of the U.S. Administration for the muslims which look very difficult to get changed even after new elected Presidency in near future.

Americans need the military assistance from his allied and capable partner Pakistan for which he has to support newly elected coalation partners PPP, PMLN, ANP, JUIF and FATA representatives in Pakitan instead of Pervez Musharraf. In the return the above mentioned politicians have to provide the face saving to the U.S. President to show the respectable exit of the troops from this troubled area after ground military operation from the tribal areas where Hamid Karzai were pointing finger to the Pakistani Government through trainned arm forces of Pakistan as soon as possible witout any involvement and casualities of allied and U.S. troops.

Hamid Bull Mir is a media face of terrorists like Taliban and A Qaida..if Pakistan will be disintegrated by these extremists then he will be equally responsible for that….such a loser …..A Q has killed thousands of Iraqis (more than what US did) in suicide bombings and converted Iraq into hell.. last year 63 suicide bombings happened in Pakistan and NWFP is at verge of being seperated from Pakistan and this shameless hamid Mir promote terrorists by his crap talk show

shame on you Hamid Mir..shame on you

@sleepingnation
shame on you sleepingnation.. shame on you
Instead of being a Pakistani you are not able to unterstand this issue.

All this is because of Failaiur of Pakistan (X and Current) Govt.

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asif65

yes shame on me because i am against extremists, terrorists, fanatics, suicide bombers who have killed thousands in Pakistan and now these retarded Mullas wanna break down Pakistan and create a state “Khurasan ” in NWFP …

and appreciations for supporters of extremists like Hamid Mir and others..

@asif65

I totally fail to understand your logic behind your accusation of sleepingnation ‘instead of being a Pakistani you are not able to understand this issue’.

Sleepingnation understands but his/her opinion does not make him/ her non-Pakistani, and your difference of opinion with him/ her does not mean he/ she does not understand issues.

Please refrain in future from such outbursts.

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asif 65

what is the criteria of being a true pakistani?, support terrorism, suicide bombers, killings and anyone who is against these fanatic extremists is not true pakistani.. this the problem which we r facing and in the end we will loss parts of NWFP and a new taliban state wil emrge there, …mind my words

I can’t believe Irfan Siddiqui still claims it wuddn’t Al-Gay-Duh after the no. 3 himself says yeah we did it!

I don’t see HM supporting AQ openly, but I’ve heard stories of his ahem.. “access” to AQ ppl that he seemed to get without much fuss… I recall one of his “interviews” in one of those swinging table lamp program (the lamp keeps swinging for 45 minutes straight) and he’s like … “we were just passing through this one afghan city when the nato forces started the invasion and then this one guy said, you want to me OBL? and I was like.. yeah.. sure, wny not?”

JTFC!

but still I don’t think HM is out to break Pakistan. You need some sleep Mr. Sleeping Nation.

Hamid Mir is one the best in investigative reporting though he has deep contacts with intelligence agencies. If anyone want to be good in investigative reporting, he should have close link with govt officials, politcians, security forces and agencies. But I believe Hamid Mir is not a good analyst like Talat Hussain.
I am totally disagree that he is playing a role of ally of taliban or Alqaida(I don’t believe alqaida presence. different groups around the world are fighting against US . US is just using alqaida name for its objectives…)

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TK

i do not need any advice from you.. as i have some serious doubts about your mental state…

anyway mind my words idea of creation of “Khursaan ( a true taliban shariat islamic state)´” consisiting of ´Tribal areas and some adjacent areas of NWFP is very much in the minds of Mashud and company and foriegn powers will take advatage of that …and it is very much possible in coming years

people like Hamid Mir conduct programme and try to prove that Talibans are other extremists and terrorist and our friends and so do not worry if they r killing some people…..yes Hamid Mir can promote these groups and make people fool by inviting some taliban supporters in his programmes.. thats what he can do.. but it is a good contribution towards a new islamic state Khurassan

This sahibzada is justifying suicide bombings loud and clear! I’d like to know which downtrodden pushed in the corner bechara launched himself as a weapon on innocents? Is there no law against condoning mass murder?

My God, Abul Yazeed is rational according to this guy! And Al Qaeda are good because they were brought up in the ‘Islam ka dhancha’. Is anyone going to take suo moto notice?

i be the 1st person who wellcome Taliban inside Pakistan . at least they are batter than Dumb Mushraf and out spoken Zardari .

@inam

What is better about the Taliban? Do you like them per se, or is it just that they are better than mush and zardari?

@Gul
I think we need to change the language of the discourse in regards to the whole Taliban/Al-qaeda/Islam dilemma. Why is it that they should hijack ‘Islamism’, modify it for their own ‘political’ reasons and present it as they are the true Muslims. I actually don’t think that the world ‘Islamist’ is as bad, it’s just being used to describe the wrong people. Taliban has nothing to do with Islam. It’s a rag tag movement started by no-good for nothing unemployed idiots whose lives were misreable (i think you did a whole piece on it, so you probably know more about them than I).

My point is that there should be more people out there defending what they really believe and practice everyday in Pakistan. Obviously, there is the whole fear factor (which these terrorist definitely take full advantage of and kill at a heart beat). Also, i also believe that there are enemies of Muslims in the world but by supporting these Taliban types (Al-qaeda is a complete seperate monster), we are playing right into their hands. The New Great Game (which is nothing more than accumulating more power) is definitely being played but these Taliban types are offering the other side the exact pawns they want on the chess board.

i agree with this point that there is no EXISTANCE or PRESENCE of AL-QAIDA. this is only propeganda,, there is not even one persona who can organize this stupid alqaida. original alqaida is BUSH, and he is fighting aganist himself,, just like musharaf imposed en emergency in country against his own government,,,,,,,,,,it is just rediculous to hear about one thing like alqaida which does not have any BODY, any SPIRIT.. it is just propeganda,,,,,,,,,,,,

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we_are_nuts

point is that even if 20,000 taliban exist in Pakistan (according to media reports and various national international sources) and about 10,000 foriegn Gurellas (idiot arabs etc etc) then believe me that these 30,000 people can destroy whole pakistan..just imagine 30,000 suicide bombers can bring a revolution and can change the whole geo political situation…with only 63 suicide bombings they have taken control of many tribal areas and Swat and ready to take control of Kohat, Mardan and even Peshawer… if God Forbid they conduct 30-40 more suicide bombings then Govt. will be at her knees and start negotiations with them to hand over NWFP to them..this is very serious matter…..and when they have some support in people (JUI, jamat Islami and deobandi Madrsa mullas and mosques) , media (Hamid Mir, Javed Ch and others) and ex crap Generals (Hamid GUl and Mullah Mahmood etc) then you cant defeat them….we will keep on beating the drums that its USA`s war, we are safe and extreme consequences are waiting for us…there is no solution for this problem and end result will be Afganistan like situation in Pakistan…i only wish that Punjab and Sindh be saved as NWFP has no chance at all now..just taste your own medicine of Jihad e Afganistan

@kukoo on July 22nd, 2008 9:54 pm

what if HM is a right wing,u cant doubt his talent as a journalist.
AL-QAIDA and TALIBAN is a real problem and we need to debate it on over media and other public forums.
and btw do anybody objection when NEO.CONS are all over the media?

Hamid Mir, the most powerful representative of Al-Qaida (and I am sure he considers Usama as his father) is equally responsible for the rise in the extremism………………….I believe people like Hamid Mir, who present the extremist elements as heroes, are equally responsible for the spread of extremist thoughts in the youth as well as encouraging the extremist elements…………….I still remember after lal masjid operation, it was him who was continuously giving a statement, that those who left the masjid earlier will return to islamabad to take revenge……………….wait…….was he warning the people of pakistan or giving this good advise cum command to his fellow extremist element?????

Oh!!! come on ………………. is there any one who can take a notice of this!!!!

secondly, this guy, what was his name??? al-yazid, taking the responsibility of 9/11……………….come on man!!!! who are you making fool (hamid mir???)………….can you even enter the US without their permission???? even a child now knows that 9/11 was a “home” production, and you are telling us, Alhamdulillah we did it……………….and what a hipocracy………”we dont kill inocent civilians”, who were those you killed in (admitted) Norwegian embassey????? were they “kafirs” or did they killed you father A**hole

Hamid Mir!!!!!! God will see you

at least hamid mir is now exposed to everyone………… before a big event in international scenerio, these sleeping b*****rds come to the media (mostly on their very own geo, or al-jazeera) and take the responsibility of any thing happened in past or near future . every one knows that these statements can only strenthen Bush’s stand on war aggainst terror, and do nothing good for anyone else.

and i dont understand this puzzle that coalation forces regardless of their intelegance and unlimited funds, could never reach number 100 of usama, but GEO reaches easily to not only Usama but also his number one’s, two’s and three’s……………….are they hamid mir’s “mamay de putar” or they live in the GEO headquarters???????

and i agree to someone who advsied this religious scholar to go and join taliban formally, wat the heck are you doing in university?????? Oh! you are doing a great job!!! brain washing of our youth………..welldone….keep it up………you are sh*ting in the plate your eating in.

@sleepingnation: Don’t flatter yourself A$$HOLE!

And stop smoking that crackpipe before logging on:

“i only wish that Punjab and Sindh be saved as NWFP has no chance at all now”

Just cuz you can type, don’t mean you are making sense. Whacko’s like you are better off sleeping.

@sleepingnation
Buddy it seems like you are a Karachite abducted by the people from the Tribal Area; just kidding. You are right, the situation is serious, i believe that Haji Bilour said that there might be 20K fighters in that area. They might/(probably will) try to take over the some of the settled districts, as they kind of control FATA already. I would asssume (hope) that the people (read rouge parts of the agencies) that brought them there also have a plan to take them out (by a laser guided bomb or a Bedford truck). I wouldn’t worry about Hamid Mir and Javed Ch. much. They are what I call clean shaved jack a*ss*s Mullahs, who, like half the Pakistani men, think that not necessarily a beard but a moustache makes a man MAN!

On a seperate but kind of related topic, if the Tliban types are so against West, modernity, ‘Western culture effecting theirs’, then why don’t they criticize the ‘bhau’ of the Hasmite (the Prophet’s (SAW) tribe) family of Jordon. Syed Abdullah’s wife:

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0705/a_br10questions_rania_0521.jpg

Ahh…She is my “model” muslim…..

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Now please look at this abuse used by your favourite TK.. he is allowed to abuse on this forum and rules are for others.. i am just pasting his post here and i wonder how do you allow him to post abuses after moderation, i request you to please take notice of this crap named TK:

@sleepingnation: Don’t flatter yourself A$$HOLE!

TK on July 24th, 2008 1:50 am :

And stop smoking that crackpipe before logging on:

“i only wish that Punjab and Sindh be saved as NWFP has no chance at all now”

Just cuz you can type, don’t mean you are making sense. Whacko’s like you are better off sleeping.

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admin

please take notice of this mentally retarded TK.. who abuses on this forum, i have posted one recent example.. he is such a loser that he is ready to abuse everytime.. its not first incident but you keep your keys close on him and all ur so called rules are for others.. if you cant take notice coz he pay you some bucks as premium member then allow me to answer him in the language which he understands…..all day we criticize weakness of our Govt. politicians/gerenrals and on the other hand for the few bucks you are allowing some people that they are above site laws and can abuse anyone.. and all ur rules are for those who do not pay u some bucks per month..as i said before that if due to this limitation u cant take action against TK then just allow me to respond to this idiot in the language which he understands..

@ TK

Is is possible to exchange views without hurling abuse at other users?

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we_are_nuts

well i am not Karachite and fact is that i visited karachi once till now. However, i lived in Nowshehra in N.W:F.P and also visited many parts of N.W.F.P. Ethnically I am not Pukhtoon but have strong affaliations with N.W.F.P .. so it is not like that some ethinic mohajir is in taliban fobia due to Altaf terrorist`s speeches….

as you mentioned that agencies might have a plan to take these terrorists out..well i m not sure about that.. they want to keep them preserve for some future adventure in the region but if you listen carefully to Haji Bilour, he also said that “Agar Aik aur bangladesh banana hay to yeh Pakistan Govt. ki marzi hay”.. …..and also he said that “agar agencies apna haath khench lein to shaid kuch behtri ho”…

but i think that all these groups are not under agencies right now, remember that MQM was also gift of agencies and they went out of control and become a organized terrorist/political body in karachi..so if someone thinks that agencies can control these Talibans/A Q, i think it is a mistake
and as far you think that agencies

@Gul: I make it a point to NOT make personal attacks on the visitors (rule # 7). I always take issue with their comments or the way they are constructing their arguments.

This CRACKHEAD however, I made an exception for, Because HE started the personal attacks, and frankly, I’m sick and tired of these morons which equate well placed (and much deserved) IMO F words with a open use of obscenitites in every comment and thread.

I don’t know anybody here, it doesn’t make sense to have personal tiffs with people as we’re discussing issues.

See this mental midget’s words in his dumba$$ comment above. A totally unprovoked and personal attack. And then he goes crying to Ad.m.in when he gets a taste of his own medicine.

@sleepingnation
I think you didn’t get the time to finish your thought but what i was trying to say was that yes the situation is bad, but it’s not at a point of no return. Although i criticize Pakistan and it’s leaders/rulers/people all the time, i don’t think you can break Pakistan this easily. Some rag tag militia funded by drug money and a well funded terrorist outfit (AlQaeda) cannot take over a whole of Pakistan’s province. The situation is complex and cannot be compared to Bangladesh. ANP is nationalist, but not seperatist. The Pakistan Army is comprised of approximately 18% pashtuns. Peshawar is headquarters to XI corps. Taliban is not Mukti Bahini. However, yes, if our people and the rulers are asleep at the switch, things can get worse. There is definitely an Insurgency but it’s only getting support from a very select few people and even that by intimidation. So let’s keep our hopes up (not that we haven’t been dissapointed by our rulers before).

@TK

OK. Give it a try. If you feel someone has been abusive or rude, stop talking to them. It worked for me.

I know nothing can give immediate satisfaction like abusing back, but longer term satisfaction of superiority is much sweeter.

kukoo ji if i pose some questions will you please answer?

You accused Hamid Mir that he is Al Qaeda but he always support democracy and Al Qaeda is against democracy.What is your problem with him?

sleepingnation you also abused Hamid Mir for his anti americanism.I think he is not against Americans but against US policies.He asked difficult question to Sahibzada Sajid in the said show,When Sahibzada said that suicide bombing is ok in Israel immediately Hamid Mir asked questions that how can you justify the killing of innocent Jews which means that he is a good journalist.By the way only Hamid Mir have the unique honour of interviewing not only Osama bin Ladin but also Colin Powel,Condoleezza Rice,Tony Blair,LK Advani and Karzai.Talat Hussain have not even met all these international leaders.He only meets Musharraf and Kyani.

I think Hamid Mir should continue his policy of asking hard questions to all sides.He is a big supporter of inter faith dialogue and organized a classical debate between Saudi Ambassador and German Ambassador few months back in capital talk.I think you people are just jealous of Hamid Mir because he is more popular in India,Banladesh and Middle East than any other Pakistani journalist.

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Munir Solangi

you have not picked my point..i give dam to USA…Bush and Laden/taliban should fight with each other for next 1000 years ..for us interest of Pakistan should be important ..why to take sides , anyone who is against extremisim is USA agent and working for yahoodis and hindus and is Kafar? this is very old tactic of blame game of 80s ..what the hell we have to do in in this Laden Vs bush war? why we should allow anyone USA or Taliban/AQ to destroy Pakistan?