Comments on: Column Kaar – 22 July 2008 http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:46:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Gul http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102961 Gul Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:21:26 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102961 The Khakwani chap is the most sensible person on this panel. He is the only person who is notable for his ability to see the wood, not just the trees (unlike abbas athar....endlessly talking about tea). The Khakwani chap is the most sensible person on this panel. He is the only person who is notable for his ability to see the wood, not just the trees (unlike abbas athar….endlessly talking about tea).

]]> By: nota http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102850 nota Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:49 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102850 @TK Remember they are already talking only "$200 million over 23 years" already so i don't know where the $21 billion figure came from.... @TK
Remember they are already talking only “$200 million over 23 years” already so i don’t know where the $21 billion figure came from….

]]> By: nota http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102849 nota Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:31:13 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102849 @TK "Also, if worse comes to worse, the rights for these companies can be enshrined in the constitutions of victim nations." They already are enshrined in something much more meaningful, namely WB,IMF,WTO "constitutions"... :) :( @TK
“Also, if worse comes to worse, the rights for these companies can be enshrined in the constitutions of victim nations.”

They already are enshrined in something much more meaningful, namely WB,IMF,WTO “constitutions”… :) :(

]]> By: TK http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102848 TK Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:23:28 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102848 sorry.. (south america) sorry.. (south america)

]]> By: TK http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102847 TK Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:23:07 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102847 @nota: -- so if the company shows no profit — and they won’t — Baluchistan gets sh!t -- Bingo! Also, if worse comes to worse, the rights for these companies can be enshrined in the constitutions of victim nations. (See: South Africa) ;-) @nota:
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so if the company shows no profit — and they won’t — Baluchistan gets sh!t
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Bingo!

Also, if worse comes to worse, the rights for these companies can be enshrined in the constitutions of victim nations. (See: South Africa)
;-)

]]> By: nota http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102842 nota Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:35:27 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102842 @kamran @Shaz I really don't believe the $21 Billion figure as these deals are made for a lot, LOT less. And judging from the following statement in <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2003/12/11/ebr15.htm" rel="nofollow">Dawn</a> ("Balochistan would get 25 per cent royalty on net profit after start of the production" -- so if the company shows no profit -- and they won't -- Baluchistan gets sh!t) and the piece quoted below, you'd be lucky to get $21 million....and that too over the life of the project -- expected to be 23 years. Baluchistan might have to spend $21 Billion to clean up the mess left behind but that's the only way the $21 billion figure will come into play.... <a href="http://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=260967" rel="nofollow">I don't suppose many people have heard of the Riko dik discovery in Pakistan, in Baluchistan Province. It is a giant project in Chaghai, containing 12.3 million tons of copper and 20.9 million ounces (yes, that's right) of gold. In inferred and indicated resources it is believed to be even bigger than Sarcheshmeh in Iran and Escondido in Chile. Its projected revenue will be nearly $ 200 million in royalty and taxes alone for the Baluchistan Govt over its 23 year mine life. And yes, you guessed it... Barrick are right in there as a major player.</a> @kamran
@Shaz
I really don’t believe the $21 Billion figure as these deals are made for a lot, LOT less. And judging from the following statement in Dawn (“Balochistan would get 25 per cent royalty on net profit after start of the production” — so if the company shows no profit — and they won’t — Baluchistan gets sh!t) and the piece quoted below, you’d be lucky to get $21 million….and that too over the life of the project — expected to be 23 years. Baluchistan might have to spend $21 Billion to clean up the mess left behind but that’s the only way the $21 billion figure will come into play….

I don’t suppose many people have heard of the Riko dik discovery in Pakistan, in Baluchistan Province. It is a giant project in Chaghai, containing 12.3 million tons of copper and 20.9 million ounces (yes, that’s right) of gold. In inferred and indicated resources it is believed to be even bigger than Sarcheshmeh in Iran and Escondido in Chile. Its projected revenue will be nearly $ 200 million in royalty and taxes alone for the Baluchistan Govt over its 23 year mine life. And yes, you guessed it… Barrick are right in there as a major player.

]]> By: Taimur http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102840 Taimur Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:25:34 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102840 *2004 Statistics* The list below shows the top tea importing nations. 1. Russia … 172,145 metric tons (17.8%) 2. United Kingdom … 156,311 mt (16.2%) 3. Pakistan … 115,967 mt (12.0%) 4. United States of America … 99,484 mt (10.3%) 5. United Arab Emirates … 65,826 mt (6.8%) 6. Japan … 56,234 mt (5.8%) 7. Morocco … 45,670 mt (4.7%) 8. Germany … 43,409 mt (4.5%) 9. Poland … 32,119 mt (3.3%) 10. Syrian Arab Republic … 30,330 mt (3.1%) Top tea consuming nations: 1. India ... 757,000 metric tons (22.5% of global total) 2. China ... 676,253 mt (20.1%) 3. Russia ... 181,680 mt (5.4%) 4. Japan ... 151,400 mt (4.5%) 5. Pakistan ... 134,578 mt (4%) 6. United Kingdom ... 127,849 mt (3.8%) 7. United States ... 100,933 mt (3%). *2004 Statistics*

The list below shows the top tea importing nations.

1. Russia … 172,145 metric tons (17.8%)
2. United Kingdom … 156,311 mt (16.2%)
3. Pakistan … 115,967 mt (12.0%)
4. United States of America … 99,484 mt (10.3%)
5. United Arab Emirates … 65,826 mt (6.8%)
6. Japan … 56,234 mt (5.8%)
7. Morocco … 45,670 mt (4.7%)
8. Germany … 43,409 mt (4.5%)
9. Poland … 32,119 mt (3.3%)
10. Syrian Arab Republic … 30,330 mt (3.1%)

Top tea consuming nations:

1. India … 757,000 metric tons (22.5% of global total)
2. China … 676,253 mt (20.1%)
3. Russia … 181,680 mt (5.4%)
4. Japan … 151,400 mt (4.5%)
5. Pakistan … 134,578 mt (4%)
6. United Kingdom … 127,849 mt (3.8%)
7. United States … 100,933 mt (3%).

]]> By: kamran http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102839 kamran Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:16:07 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102839 @ Shaz Thanks for this useful information. Do you have any link or some further details about this gold thingy which you would like to share with us? Thank you @ Shaz

Thanks for this useful information.

Do you have any link or some further details about this gold thingy which you would like to share with us?

Thank you

]]> By: Democracy http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102836 Democracy Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:11:33 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102836 @shaz I know about this issue. Not sure it has anything to do with a zionist conspiracy, I think that takes away from the issue of resource extraction and resource "curse" which poor countries with oil, gas, gold, copper etc go through. please google romania canadian gold company. hopefully you will find a documentary on a canadian gold company's effort to extract gold from under an entire village and displacing the entire population with little benefit to the town. I believe some of the same players might be involved in Baluchistan because apparently this canadian mining company is one of the few companies which have the wherewithal to extract these large deposits. These contracts are negotiated on the quiet and few if anyone knows about it until it appears in some obscure place or some footnote. Glad you raised the issue. Thar coal deposit is also possibly now one of the largest in the world. @shaz

I know about this issue. Not sure it has anything to do with a zionist conspiracy, I think that takes away from the issue of resource extraction and resource “curse” which poor countries with oil, gas, gold, copper etc go through. please google romania canadian gold company. hopefully you will find a documentary on a canadian gold company’s effort to extract gold from under an entire village and displacing the entire population with little benefit to the town. I believe some of the same players might be involved in Baluchistan because apparently this canadian mining company is one of the few companies which have the wherewithal to extract these large deposits. These contracts are negotiated on the quiet and few if anyone knows about it until it appears in some obscure place or some footnote. Glad you raised the issue. Thar coal deposit is also possibly now one of the largest in the world.

]]> By: establishment http://pkpolitics.com/2008/07/22/column-kaar-22-july-2008/#comment-102825 establishment Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:39:38 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=2483#comment-102825 i think today's episode was really good but it made me really depressed. i think today’s episode was really good but it made me really depressed.

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