Blast at Islamabad Marriot
Blast reported at or near Marriot Hotel in Islamabad, which is close to Parliament House. Glasses of Geo TV station broken, which is 1 kilometer from the hotel.
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SAD!!! These savages need to be punished. Wicked people!
This explosion is massive. The front of building has caught one fire. I fail to understand why our intelligence agencies can’t figure out where this explosive is coming from?
BEFORE Direct or indirectly the entire blame may put on Taliban or Alqaida KINDLY CONSIDER & DO NOT forget just FEW days ago our agencies caught red handed some Afghan & local culprits with INDIAN MADE EXPLOSIVE materials.
As per Hamid Mir at 9:12 PST, more than 100 dead.
Marriot Hotel is completely destroyed. A small car hit the main door of Marriot and then a truck followed inside through broken door and exploded at the main lobby entrance of Marriot.
Largest suicide blast in history of Pakistan - Geo TV
Oh Allah, are those bombers could be muslim? no way , no way, according to your Quran and Prophet (S.A.W)’S sayings, absolutely they will be going to HELL. I wish, if you hell seekers can read it, then the only question which i would ask you is…its ramadan man, its ramadan and it was the time of Iftar.
dont forget the RAW factor, few days back there is a blasts in DEHLI,
watch geo live on CNN’s website
Extremely shameful and cruel act by terrorists. We have no choice but to crush these savage bastards.
It is shameful that right wing media portray these terrorists as Mujahids. They are animals who are trying to destroy the social fabric of our society.
Unfortunately Media does not support government and army when they try to take action against these savages. When people like Hamid Mir call these savages ‘innocent people’, they indirectly support these murders.
Congratulations to all Taleban lovers and apologists. You should be happy your brave soldiers of Allah are winning the war against Pakistan.
Only innocent people killed. None of those Ba****ds is killed.
well v have absolute zero security!!!
the MUSHEER-e-Dakhla… is an @$$……. person of inspector grade made head of IB & ISI & stuff………. he must be replaced by some educated & qualified experienced person!!! its not sumthing what he can handle!!! he cant even give security to BB, what he can do for this country!!!!
and i saw a strip stating that NLC truck had fixed explosive!! how come no 1 came to knew that 1 NLC vehicle is missing!!! what are the security ppl doing on every nukkar of islamabad!!! a truck loaded wid explosives hit into a hotel, why didnt they chked it earlier!!! is this terrorist network stronger than our agencies!! if yes, then why dont the govt quit & let them run the country!!!
even fox is covering it…..the hotel is totally gutted.
This what happens when Muslim / Pakistani Fauj kills own Pakistanis on the pretext of killing ‘ Talibans ‘ whether such is a fact or not.
Again, if the present govt continues policies of (SOB) Mush, waht else do you expect?
bbc report that the police have warned that the building might collapse
well dear!!! if they r innocent paki’s how are they defending themselves against army for such long time!!!
i dont call them taliban, they are indian & CIA trained terrorists, our ppl, bought by our enemies & trained & planted against us!!
have u ever think for a moment, how come they are fighting for so long?? who is giving them continuous supply of weapons & ammuninition!! who is giving them precise targets??? did u ever give it a thought!!!
think beyond what u r seeing!!! they r not plain paki’s.. who r doing the attacks!!! they are trained people, funded & supplied with stuff to hit the targets precisely!!!
i m not defending govt policies, its the policy, which let them grow!! mush, intentioanlly let them grow & breed, cuz he wanted a continuous threat which he can use to justify his own importance!!!
now he made mess of pakistan in 9 yrs!! and that bast@rd is sleeping in peace in army house!! why dont these so called taliban go & hit there!! they dont they raid that place, get him out & hunt him down nude in the streets of pindi cantt!!!! MUSH is the real culprit!!! he must be hanged!!!!
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@snrctzn
‘This what happens when Muslim / Pakistani Fauj kills own Pakistanis on the pretext of killing ‘ Talibans ‘ whether such is a fact or not.
Again, if the present govt continues policies of (SOB) Mush, waht else do you expect?
sire, i beg to differ…there cannot be a MORAL justification for collateral damage philosophy.
I pray that the suicide bombers and their handlers would remain in the pit of hell till eternity.
Why do they kill innocent people? What amusement do they drive out of this? It’s because of these idiots that ISLAM has been equated to Terrorism.
this impotent PPP government is the biggest enemy of Pakistan. MNA? of FATA are begging them to stop the war but Government don’t understand. Amry “Hijray” generals deserve capital punishment.
Very sad day for us.
Is this a strong reply from militants or usa?
zardari spoke today against both of them.
seems there were 2 blasts
as per AAJ, first blast was a minor one and the second one after about 5 miute was a massive explosion
@SnrCtzn
Pardon me sir, this is what happens when the Pakistani fauj kills our pashtoon brothern. This cycle of violence is fueled by revenge. I hope there is hue and cry about the ‘collateral’ damage here as well just as everybody is beating their chest for the ‘collateral’ damage in Bajaur. Both are condemnable. That said, Taliban couldn’t have done it by themselves. This thing requires more than a ton of explosives, something can be put together in Darra Adam Khel but hard to smuggle into ISL. Alqaeda stamped all over this.
Go Khilafalt!
Yet another tragic event in the heart of Pakistan. Our enemies must be enjoying the scenes. It seems like that we are on course to commit suicide:-)
I agree @Kafka8, but you know….people who suffer i.e. loose close relatives don’t think rationally, but emotionally. People with such mindset can go to any extent. The advice must be; don’t push a certain part of the population too far too quickly. The consequences can be fatal- not only for a city or province, but for the whole of Pakistan………it hurts
This is really a shocking news and of course it is worse situation in Pakistan. I am sure there are some forces working in Pakistan against Pakistan and unfortunately the officials of these forces are highly appointed hint (RM). This officials are great risk for Pakistan and they are working for high level agencies.
It is a big plot to destabilize Pakistan by the hand of Pakistanis. May God give us strength to cope with these situation and we need to be united.
7 foreigners are also dead as per AAJ TV.
Prophet had mentioned one of the sign of the last days is that there would be lot of killings. Serious of events, one after the other. Victims would not know why they were killed. Are we living in that era?
In my opinion, there are two theories behind this deadly blast:
1- USA planned and executed it to threat Pakistan govt and army that if they change the line of US and divert from it, US destroy the whole country.
2- Planned by any pakistani spy agency to threat zardari and govt, that dont cross limit and be follower of establishment(army).
May be I am wrong, but directly or indirectly this is strong move of US to threat pakistan.
What is the diffrence between those women who are commiting suicide along with their childern (becase of Musharaf’s war of terror) and this suicide bomber?
diffrence is…Hum too dobay hein sanam tum ko bhi lay dobein gay.
We should learn to deliver justice. some people in pakistan don’t like to committ suicide on railway track.
Any workable link of GEO???
lal masjid operation walon ko sar-e-aam phaansi dee jai.
Barbarians at the gates. Totally agree.
These lawless freaks of Al-Qaida and Pakistan Tehrik-e-Taliban are here to impose themselves upon you, whether you like it or not.
They know islam better than you. They are better muslims than you are.This is how they fight infidels. Kill innocent people. Blow up buildings.Bomb Girls Schools and Barber Shops,CD shops.
Helped by naive journalists and politicians like Hamid Mir and Imran Khan, they are here to teach you a few things about Islam.
Now go ahead and blame it on everything else but lay blame where it actually belongs..
Go help them , praise them. Make them Heroes,
Forget the atrocities they have committed,blame the entire world but don’t blame your beloved Al-Qaida and Taliban.
One version was, that ‘ you can expect such events when Pakistanis kill their own fellow Pakistanis.
Another version, as somebody above has said, it could be the work of the DEVIL, i.e ; USA. You never know, the 2nd version could be more nearer to the truth.
But how to find it out ? I suppose, NEVER, will anybody find it out.
Short-cut to resolve all such problems :- Finish Yankee influence in Pakistan, push them out of our country, & say ‘enough is enough. ‘
1. I know this answer won’t be popular but…Assuming most of the dead were ordinary civilians, why may I ask are these 40+ lives more important than hundreds, if not thousands killed in Bajaur, etc.? Why all the hue and cry for these and not the others? ‘Cause it happened in Islamabad? ‘Cause most killed were well to do?
2. Reichstag any one? I mean, the timing is perfect!
http://www.rizwanashraf.com/2007/11/14/watch-geo-tv-online/
you can watch GEO here
@ nota
Reichstag ? NO. You think too much of the capabilties of the political forces in Pakistan-( including the military political forces also)-
But in concept alone I would share with you an e-mail that a friend send to me-
” In ref: to the Marriot blasts-
simply looking at this event from a very objective and analytical fashion-
intelligence agencies are informed-( on purpose)- that an oil tanker full of explosives is headed towards Islamabad.
They swallow the bait and every tanker and BIG truck is not allowed into Islamabad.
The construction truck which NO ONE looking for goes and carries out it’s gruesome task.
This is a development which should concern the authorities in the Army and other securities agencies since this simply means that THINKING people have taken over this business of blasts.
The well publicized concept of INDIRECT STRATEGY in a conceptual sense has been used .
Is this an evolution of the usual suspects of the Al Qaeda or does this involve more well trained, better organized STATE actors from outside - viz a viz INDIA, or USA or someone else ?
If this is evolution of the forces of terrorism( so-called)- then everyone needs to worry a lot as to what is next “.
@kafka8
“there cannot be a MORAL justification”
Don’t think SnrCtzn is trying to provide one. And neither am I. “A” slaps “B” and “B” slaps “A” back is not surprising. In fact “A” complaining about “B”’s reaction is trying to provide moral justification for his own act…”I slapped you cause I am doing Gaad’s work but how dare you slap me back? You heathen!!”
Honestly tell me did you not expect something like this to happen? Why?
@shimatoree
“Reichstag ? NO. You think too much of the capabilties of the political forces in Pakistan-( including the military political forces also)”
You might have a point there
Watch GEO here,
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2
Come on guys what is new about 40 people being killed in Pakistan. Is it that it happened in Marriott and not in FATA. Those cry for Taliban blood hang your heads in shame. This what happens in civil war.
I am amazed that the hand of foreign agencies is so categorically being rejected
@shimatoree
Just want to add that remember if Nazi’s did it is debatable but not debatable is the fact that they used it to their advantage. Let’s just wait and see how this event is “utilized”…
@Tauqeer Akbar
I think you need to re-read the comments above….
“Why all the hue and cry for these and not the others? ‘Cause it happened in Islamabad? ‘Cause most killed were well to do?”
Most of the people killed were chauffers and security guards. I bet atleast 70% of them were pashtoons (we have to wait to see who was behind this but i think these things are not surprising anymore, so we can assume what everybody is thinking). The hue and cry is about the mindlessness of this incident. If the suicide bomber couldn’t get to the PM house, Parliament House or President House, he decided to kill 40+ privately hired security guards and chauffers? What is this suppose to mean? To everybody, it’s sending a message that we are here and we will go to any extent to destroy the way you live….i.e., no Marriotts should be in Pakistan.
I don’t know what other message this is sending. Firstly, its telling the world, don’t come to Pakistan; attacking hotels is the best way to hurt an interconnected economy. Now if you want to comapre this to Bajaur, Bajaur is living in 632AD. Islamabad is living in atleast 2008. That’s basically the difference.
They should bomb the s**t out of FATA. Throw in Hamid Mir in there with his taliban buddies.
These people are at war with us. Like it or not we have to beat them to death now.
And our right wing nut jobs like hamid mir should have been in the hotel.
On a side note, my hero Justice Sabhiuddin Ahmed has taken oath from Dogra Raj. I like Justice Sabhiuddin becasue he is a founding member of HRCP and has been involved in human rights issues most of this life.
I guess the honorable Justice gotta live.
Here is a link for Express News fans:
http://www.rizwanashraf.com/2008/04/10/watch-express-news-tv-live-online-for-free/
Check the menu on the right for links to other news chanell
Pak tops list of countries in number of suicide bombing deaths
Lahore, Sept 15 : Pakistan tops the list of countries as far as the number of deaths in suicide bombings during the first eight months of the year is concerned, figures compiled by an elite intelligence agency have said.
From January till August, there were in all 28 suicide attacks in Pakistan which claimed more than 471 people and injured around 713. Both the dead and the injured included a large number of innocent civilians as well as the armed forces personnel.
Iraq stood second with 463 people killed in 42 suicide attacks, while Afghanistan was third with 436 people killed in 36 suicide attacks.
http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-22482.html
@zahidbinmustafa
There is a thrid possibility also and probably the more likely-
there has been a mental evolution in the capabilities of those that are retaliating against the policies of the previous regime and the present regime.
If that is the case then something worse might follow .
everyone should be scared.
We need to come up with a well thought out plan to tackle this problem. Even if we stop everything in FATA, next the balochis will start blowing stuff up to get their demands met. After that someone else will start doing this to get their demands met.
We need Israeli like attitude now: touch us and we will hit you back very very hard. Use F16’s , cobra’s, helicopters….starve them to death.
I have a feeling that Army and PPP government are going to use this event as an excuse to clamp down on media’s freedom.
Hamid Mir’s diatribe against governments action in Bajaur was not taken pleasantly by the government.
very sad day.I totally agree with nota n snrctzn.be-rehman malik shud accept the responsibility n resign immediately.he’s the security boss.wat a joke.
@zahidbinmustafa
i agree with ur 1st point
but dnt forget RAW and Afghanis r there
why they doing this bcos to pressurise our puppet goveronment to do more bombardment on our own ppl n ultimately to destablise and destroy pakistan nuclear weapons.
Plz i request our goveronment to stop operations in FATA lets hug our own ppl n talk otherwise such incidents will be happening bcos our enemies get benifit of this unstalbe situation in our country.
Pakistan is being used as a battle ground, but we are too blind to see… it is a war between US+allies and the talibans+alqaeda.. pakistanis and dying as colletral damage.. Talibans kill us by doing suicide attacks and americans are killing us by their drone attacks… and we are still confused about who’s side we are on..
40 ppl died here, but noone knows how many we kill in the tribals areas… it has now become a blood for blood and revenge war… it wont stop till we reconsider our entire philosophy about terrorism…
I just ask everyone.. are the americans here to kill the terrorists? they have been killing the terrorists for 8 years now what have they achieved…. or do the americans have a bigger agenda and they just want to deal with the locals in tribals areas who may cause problems for US in pursuing their agenda…
@MalangBaba
in times like this- we need you drop your ” MALNGEENESS ” and plesae try to think rationally and realistically.
So it would be of help if you could stop blaming this or that since you have no evidence against Hamid Meer or anyone else. We do not know who is responsible for this. Maybe your ” SAVAGE ” bastards or maybe someone else .
You might wish to crush the ” savage Bastards ” and the ” savage bastards” might want to do the same to you. And since the great Hyper Power of USA has evidently failed to CRUSH the” savage Bastards” after 8 years-
pray tell us HOW you an old MALANG can crush them . Do you have a plan or a proposal or just a wish ?
@Bilal647
if those guys go to Hell or heaven - no one knows . Only God knows and He is not sending e-mails to you so that you might inform the people here .
@Nazir4u
“Plz i request our goveronment to stop operations in FATA lets hug our own ppl n talk otherwise such incidents….”
I sometime think that 80% of Pakistanis are mentally unstable. “lets hug”…Hahaha…I am laughing to the extent i will cry. The people that did this are talking to you Mr. Nazir4u. They are talking to you via this bomb blast. They are talking to you via the gun, just like the Army is talking to them via the gun. It’s their gun vs. the Army’s gun. The state of Pakistan should not give up it’s gun (I hope).
I condemn these cowardly acts. But one should understand why these all hapenning in our country. its like TIT FOR TAT situation. Stop killing innocents peoples in FATA, withdraw Pak Troops from tribal areas and start negotiating with them and you will see change soon. If we keep following the policies of Gen. Musharraf and do not stop killing our own peoples by using our own force on USA behalf then we have to make our self mentally prepare to see more terrible incident like this. God Forbids
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@ kafka8
nota is right, when he says that neither he, nor myself, are trying to provide any moral justification. Did I ever say so, or meant that ?
@ manfromaimic.
Dont you think,anybody hunting down Mush ‘nude’ will be doing too much of an injusice to him ?
Why dont you give that SOB, the privilege / satisfaction of, first, putting his ‘ kutcha ‘of the poor, or ‘ Bermuda shorts ‘ of the elite class, & then should be hanged, first by his feet like the Italian’s did to Benito Mussolini or the II Duce ( the fascist dictator ) in 1945 ?
Then later, Mush can be hanged by his neck, till he is pronounced DEAD.
@ we_are_nuts.
I cannot guess on my own, who is doing what to whom ? But i suspect, like others, that the Yankee bastards do have a hand in it.
This is heart breaking and inhuman. Please don’t say it is the reaction of fata or elese whare. This kind of well planned, well sponsored and successful brutelety is either Alqida or USA.
We are been used and targeted by both usa and alqida. This has been going on since 1977 as far as afghanistan was concerned, and since 1950’s as far as our military lords decided to join usa and their brutal capitalists friends.
@all
Planning of this bloody event is not so simple. Blamming to taliban and leaving USA, Pak spy agencies, and RAW is not a wise approach. These taliban are the puppets of spy agencies and they are not so smart to execute such big plan.
@shimatoree
I am agree with your points. surly Pakistan in trouble and BIG PLAN is on the way.
WAKE UP! Al-qaeda doesn’t exist.
The NeoCon use of Osama Bin Laden as a tool of fear and control is a tried and tested method whenever the going gets tough. It’s predictable and it’s tiresome, but the masses buy it every time and that’s why he has reappeared once again.
Bin Laden was created by US intelligence , worked with US intelligence in the late 70s and 80s, was used as a patsy by US intelligence before and after 911 and is now being used as a manipulative tool of fear by the criminal elite faction currently in power in the US.
Hello ppl
i hope u all r fine n waiting for my unbiased comments
@ baig_lahori
The Israelis do not have to deal with the people who you are up against.
†he Israelis have their opponents surrounded- at least the Palestinians.
Perhaps you wish to live like the Israelis do.
A hint-
The US with all it;s fire power has failed after 8 years. They have much more than your F-16 s and Cobra helicopters - and THEY have failed.
And YOU think YOU can use the same FAILED appraoch to solve this problem ?
By the way WHO would YOU hit ? You don’t even know WHO did this ?
But that should not matter to the likes of you since FACTS are of no interest. JUST BOMB AWAY .
One more MORONIC GENIUS .
Truck with 500kg of explosives hijacked
Tuesday, September 09, 2008
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17118
Bruce O. Riedel, a former high-ranking CIA and Pentagon official , says There’s been a poll in Pakistan in last several days that say the majority of Pakistanis think the violence in their country is the result of the United States. And only a handful of Pakistanis think that it’s the result of al-Qaeda and its allies.
Who are those handful People who are supporting more violence?
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No logic can justify this horrible act.These people are not humans, but animals, beasts.These fascists called themselves muslims, shame on them.Any ony trying to condone this barbaric act, any reason is actually glorfying these beasts.We should not talk to these outfits. We should crush these animals.No matter, which party you support, we must support our government i crushing these bastards.Mushtaq Manhoos and Hamid mir trying to justify these acts. These are shameful people.We must unite against internal and external enemies.
Hamid Mir should be interrogated for his links with these beasts.
Media managers should reign in people like Mushtaq Manhoos, shaitan MIr.
Majority of pukhtoons want to crush these animals.
Being soft on these DEHSATGARDS, is like giving in to these bastards.
No reason and logic justify this act.
People tring to give twisting logics behind this act are supporting these people.
What has the bombing achieved?
1) Scare foreigners out of Pakistan - further damaging the economy.
2) Pakistan’s mini 9/11 where Public’s attention is diverted from border violations to utter and BLIND hatred for the “extremists”.
3) Make the Security Forces crack down even harder and be sucked even deeper into conflict in FATA and other places, further fueling the cycle of violence and indiscriminate killings by the security forces and suicide bomb attacks.
Who stands to gain from all this…….?
It looks like brutalities just started from the rival groups. Situation is out of control now. ………….
No way , any one can be soft now on these animals.
WE SHOULD NOW BECOME MATURE ENOUGH , AND RISE ABOVE PETTY PARTY POLITICS.
Althogh i support PML,N , BUT if they give some soft statement, i will be dissappointed, and condemn this party.
We should unite behind govrnment, no matter it is A, B OR Z govt.
Wake up guys.
This is a war against wicked ideology.
My friends, it is time to rise above petty politics.
If you dont have a country, where will you do this politics.
Shame on petty politics on this horrible act
Just to listen to the reaction of relitives of dead ones.
They are condeming these beasts.
Now the time has come
IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS WICKED IDEOLOGY OR NOT. ANY ONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS ACTUALLY ARE SUPPORTING THIS BARBARIC FORCE
Enough of it, get the hell out of this ill coalition and sign a pact with Tribal elders to handover all foreigners to Govt who trial them IN PAKISTAN and punish them IN PAKISTAN. There’s no end to this blood bath via eye for eye and blood for blood, U can’t beat stupid becoming one!!! Use the democratic power and world opinion to stand tall against US policies… PLEASE WAKE UP before you can’t!!!
@Muhammad Usman
“IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS WICKED IDEOLOGY OR NOT. ANY ONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS ACTUALLY ARE SUPPORTING THIS BARBARIC FORCE”
This is what Bush and his followers have been saying since 9/11. “Either you are with us or against us”. We are all concerned and disgusted by this dastardly act, Being emotional won’t help, hasn’t in the last 60 years. Time for a different approach?
Hi guys
I will write my detail comment later as i am really confused how to start from it requires some to redefine my writing skills .
Little snapshot
Karsaz Bomb Blast
BB shaheed Rawilpindi assasination
marriot Blast -Red zone Area
All performed by some forces who wants to
distabalized PAKISTAN..
This is is the ACT OF TERRORISM performed
by those who are responsible for BB assasination or KARSAZ blast.
My friends Pakistan is underattack by enemy within not outside and they have declared WAR.
Also remember this point MR ZARDARi is flying for USA and no Major incident like this ever took place in past.
Wait for my detailed Analysis..Very shortly
ALLAH PROTECT PAKISTAN FROM ITS ENEMIES WITHIN!!!
Muhammed Usman
Petty politics.. My friend this all happened due to politics see how PPL are changing there opinion.Nobody is remembering or recalling Missile attacks diversion tatctics.Do U think PPL would welcome MR zardari if he support BUSH agenda
in washington after what he said in parliament today.He needs some incident to
change his statement now he got perfect excuse..DON U AGREE…
We all as pakistanis should demand
immediate resignation of Rehman malik
and kamal shah !!! This is the thrid attack in red zone.. U canT forgive one OR even two mistake but third time …its A CRIMINAL ACT!!!
My friends its time to perform operation clean up MUSHI’s loyals from government before its too late.These termites must be removed.
@ I jay
you are right, not only Kamal Shah and Rehman Malik we must get rid of this civilian dictator Zardari-mush 2nd also.
@ hadi26AMREECA is much safe place now.No untoward act has happened in their contry. Is it not their success.Grow up my friend.
WE MUST GET OUT of AMERICA’s TERRORIST WAR
America is the only terrorist. why should we destabilise our country for Hrami american.
??
Why?
we are nuclear power. we should learn to stand up on our feet.
After blast onLY 2 rooms were burning FROM VIDEO FOOTAGE how the whole marriot gor burned… KNOCK KNOCK
SABOTAGE …
The attack has nothing to do with the Taliban.
America was probably responsible for this attack because they want to destabilise the country. The corrupt Pakistani leaders should not take part in America’s war on terror, this is not a Muslin war.
The attack has nothing to do with the Taliban.
America was probably responsible for this attack because they want to destabilise the country. The corrupt Pakistani leaders should not take part in America’s war on terror, this is not a Muslim war.
these talbaans are animals,they must be hunted with the help of international cummunety.
Beneficiries of TOday’s Act
ZARDARI:good EXCUSE TO support busH agenda
in next few days compromising on cross border attacks.
Rehman Malik ,Armed forces AND GOvt: fueled people
anger against militancy in FATA and got PPL
backing to crush militants with extreme force.
USA & bush:we are right pakistan cant fight this war alone and our attacks are justified to keep USA and pakistan safe.
people of pakistan:LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTIES,SORROW,SUFFERING AND LIKE
ALWAYS EMPTY HANDED
CIA agents are behind the terrorist activities - Major General (r) Rahat latif
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6147&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
stop this war in the tribal areas where innocent people are being killed,
bring this to parliament where there is a genuine debate on how to move forward
rehabilitate all who have suffered
make your own independent policy which is good for pakistan, never mind whats good for the yanks.
all who have died i pray for them and allah give patience to they families and friends.
off the record really good today and as usual javed hashmi a star as usual
CIA Agents the Target of the Bomb ?
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/senior-cia-officers-were-target-of-islamabad-blast_10097943.html
very sad…however equally sad are the daily blasts in Bajur and Waziristan…the only difference that the ones in Bajur and Waziristan can be staopped with one order???
who was behind that? could it be the govt/establishment itself to divert attention from the lousy address by President???
CIA Agents the Target of the Bomb ?
You don’t really believe this bullshit story, do you? CIA Agents were responsible for the blast, according to Major General (r) Rahat latif and ‘common sense’.
Anyone who tries to even faintly support this crazy mullah mentality should be crushed and every action should be taken…these people don’t even given an inch in Pakistan….and the people who are trying to play politics on this issue….I just want to say “get a life”…innocent people are killed and you are scoring points….sad very sad……may allah bless the souls of all who died in this……
You kill 10 thousand innoncent muslims in Bajur and FATA with the help of F16 and helicopter gunships and you allow Americans to come in and attack innoncent Pakistani muslims via drones and special forces and then you wonder how can Muslims do this in Ramadhan.
Are you not Muslim who are killing those innoncent Muslims at the behest of Non Muslim forces whom you have made your God and forgotten that Allah is there watching over you and He knows the best.
For God sake bring the FATA policy and other issues to the joint session of parliament and give it an open discussion otherwise more are going to come.
You have already lost Bangladesh, then Kashmir and now you are losing FATA once for all and after that would be Northern Areas and then would be Baluchistan.
For God sake come to senses now
Paf
its not crazy mullah mentality otherwise mullahs from all the madrassahs would have been up in arms when Red Mosque incident happened but their leader FAzlu is playing and politics and their another leader Qazi said that he supported Zardari because he became president.
This is purely another issue. It has been estimated that about 10 thousand innocent muslims have been slaugtered by Pakistan Army and their agents in the garb of Zardari and Rehman Malik at behest of Bush and company and you expect that those people in FATA would present you with flowers.
If you dont stop zulm how can u expect them to stop - it has nothing to do with mullah mentality - just stop killing them and they would stop that too.
to all those so called liberal fascists
you guys think you can go and kill muslims in tribal areas for your non muslim masters ruthlessly - men, women and children and let those kafirs come and kill your men women and children in FATA using drones and other ammunition and you expect you would sit in Islamabad and enjoy your life in hotel like Marriot as if nothing has happened. You took war to their homes and destroyed their lives - now they are bringing war to your cosy homes.
Nothing to do with mullah mentality - simply an issue of tit for tat.
If this crap goes on the way it is at the minute, I bet next census will reveal population of 150 million reduced from 160 million.Thanks to the ongoing operation in FATA and suicide bombings (in retaliation?) in rest of the urban areas of Pakistan!!!
I wish and pray this turmoil ends very soon!
No justification whatsoever for acts like this!!!
This govt is also following previous policies to keep people of pakistan in panic mood.Look at the resolve of our nation
half blaming usa half blaming taliban nobody blaming govt afte indian bomb attack
indian nation was not blaming any one they blamed govt for failure.Its time to show some mautrity guys we have to identify
enemies within before its too late.
i remember mush was also performed this same tatcic to prolong his tenure and please his MAsters.
In 1971 mukhti bhani was labeled as terrorist and miltant by pak govt and see history army went there to crush them .INDIA
came to rescue and gave independence to Bangladesh.
i fear GOD forbbids same thing will happen in FATA and this time rescuer will be USA and AFGHANISTAN.
O ALLAH PROTECT OUR NATION FROM ALL ENEMIES AND EVILS (INSIDE OR OUTSIDE)
Who gains and who loses? Who wanted chaos? Who will exploit this chaos?
Dr Shlomo Ben Ami, foreign Israeli minister in Prime Minister Ehud Barak cabinet in 2000-2001, said the threat of Hamas and the Hezbollah was smaller compared to the challenges posed by the “world-wide export of terrorism” by Pakistan.
Israel considers every country in the region and vicinity as a serious threat which it believes can become a hurdle in the way of its expansionist policies and plans. Pakistan is one of them.
@ IJay , c hussain
“stop killing them and they would stop that too”
this is not how govt is run. this is a black mail. dont kill us otherwise we will kill ur ppl. if govt act on this then tomorrow, someone else will do bombings and try to ask its demands met. do u mean that these bombings are done by relatives of innocent ppl who are killed in operation? clearly thats not the case. talibans claim responsibility normaly afterwards. are talibans r killing on behalf of normal ppl’s killing?? if u mean that then y dont talibans leave populated areas and go to some mountains and fight with usa? that will save their ppl. why they try to hide in commmon ppl who are against them?
do u mean more and more ppl are joining talibans after attacks on their families for revenge?? according to ground realities presented by ur fav commentators, ppl have risen against talibans because they are cause of these killings and hurdle in peace.
@Asif
what is ur age ??
Nobody can convince you guys with logic. May Allah remove talibani glasses from your eyes so that u see the world as it is . Whenever we gather some hope, these blasts kill that as well
its sumthing which is expected and God forbit, more are on their way!!!
as for last many years pakistan is a play ground for many forces namely.
1. US forces + CIA agents.
2. RAW Hired afghani’s & Desi agents.
3. KGB agents.
4. Israeili Agency Mosad.
5. Own desi militants (stupid Mullas).
but all are fighting against a common enemy!! which is Pakistan army & State of Pakistan!!!!
may Allah save us from such more disasters!!
I wonder, where are the AALIM-E-DEEN these days!!
where are saviours of islam THE FILTHY MULLA’s…..
its the hatred what they have sowed in hearts of people in last many years, before partition & specially after it… that religion & sect has been a source of nuisance for all of us.
all condemn these acts in papers & media, i wonder if sum1 is really doing sumthing practically!!!!
why dont they all call a conference, and telecast it on all channels.
they must tell people that its not right & just, what they are doing….. killing innocent civilians. its not jehad & they are not getting any jannat for it.
secondly, if Pak govt has proofs that India & other agencies are funding these so called TALIBANS & mulla’s & baloch rebels… whats the attraction that MR. 100% is eager to make more friendly relations with india!!!
i dont say u go & start a war wid india!! but pakistan must be clear, that India can never be our friend. so treat india with this reality in mind.
There is no greater national security threat facing Pakistan than USA and its associates.
Naek declared it 9/11 of Pakistan. Innocent people died. No doubt.
But thing is that if people dies in Islamabad then its 9/11 of Pakistan but if innocent men, women, children get killed by drones, missiles and Jets then its collateral damage. Today everyone is condemning this act of terror, and it is condemnable, but why they don’t criticize the same way when they kill innocent people in tribal areas ?
If a person sees his family slaughtered by a missile or Jet, what do you think he would do ?
Why the F we are fighting for american gringos & have made whole country like hell?
Aur kero America ki ghulami..haram khoro americans ki jund apni zameen per fight ker key apnay hi logon ko murwa rahey ho baigharato bikao kutto, rehman malik kutta,asif zardari kutta aur hussain haqqani kuttay ka bucha…lanut hai tuff hai tum logon per.kitni maaon ki bud duayen lo gey qatilo?
marriat–blast….hmmmm
well its in my opinion a typical of U.S fabricated action movie like 9/11,i mean after self destroying 2 buildings u.s earned 2-countries,and now again as nation`s pressure was rising against U.S dron bombings in FATA, so just to lagitimise these attacks and so called war on terror + getting unconditional pak. gov. support it was an other U.S stage drama as off course there s loss of just innocent PAKIs and never reported a single government official or VVIP as they all seem to be immunized from these kind of attacks???? JUST THINK >>now there s no stopping in AMERICAN WAR ON TERROR>>>and our polititians are part of this conspiracy
////GOD BLESS PAKISTAN ..MAY ALLAH MAKE THIS GREAT NATION START USING BRAINS–Aamin
well !!!
all our leaders are dramay bazz, our army is full of corrupt generals & land grabers!!!
1st reality!! leaders dont love pakistan, they are just here to earn & make foreign accounts.. they have other nationalities & palaces in foreign countries!!! they are just using pakistan to mint money & build their US accounts!!! be it xardari, nawaz or asfand yar or mulla diesel or shujaat, its true for all of them.
2ndly…. army generals are also not faithful, they are more loyal to US than to pakistan, the drama wat kiyani is doing is just to impress public & to raise his own value, but in reality, he must be asking america, that u have paid mushy so much million US $ for this war, now its my turn, me & my friends also want our share… as the aid is same or even less but grabbers are more, the govt & new lot of generals… so thats all a topi drama to get more money from US to fill their bank accounts abroad.
so.. all love $$$$…. so why to blame these suiciders, they are doing it for $$$ also!
Simple !
There is still time that WE get out of this “so called war on terror” otherwise this will continue and we will suffer more.
It is not our war. It was never our war…. we never had any problems before 9/11 hell……. not even after 9/11……….BUT when we turned against our own people and started butchering them…. this is what we got………!!
GET OUT NOW OR GET READY FOR MORE AND MORE !
i think if the whole world come together along with USA they can not beat the faceless enemy.its mess pakistan has become a thoroughfare and anybody across the planet can hit u like this. it is not only talabans u have a lot of good neighbours.This govt is total failure .Because they have betrayed the people. if the ppp would have restored the judges and kept their words the people would stood on their back.i m sure that ppp govt do not have support of the people.So they should look into their own n correct themselves on war on terror policy.they should openly bring this issue in parliament n decide on the floor other wise every thing is written on the wall for them.I pray to Allah that he should bless them with sagacity to resolve this problem.
1) Barack Obama already blamed this on Al-Qaeda. Even though no one has claimed responsibility yet.
2) I would be more concerned about the eastern borders. Has anyone noticed the series of bombings in india recently? Is anyone talking about RAW???
3) I salute the security guards they resisted and saved hundreds of lives. Imagine the explosives making its way into the building. The building was NOT destroyed due to the blast itself- It was destroyed due to the fire that erupted in a gas pipeline after the blast (according to reports). If the firefighters were more aggressive & prompt plus if the building had sprinkler system a lot of damage could have been avoided.
Evidence of US involvment in the attack?
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17401
This is a warning light for all of us
First things first, wipe out Talibans who are FIGS , basters and Harramis. These Talibans are on the payroll of RAW and other enemy nationas who want to eliminate Pakistan.
What I fails to understand why Paki Army is not killing Taliban Leaders. So far in SWAT not a single notable Taliban leader is killed while the whole SWAT is burning. I hope someone on this forum will answer this question is that we know RAW and others are supporting Talibans in SWAT and FATA but our Army and ISI has miserably failed.
may allah give jannat to dead and lanat on those who did this act.
guys lets do two things.
1. pay condolences to families of deads
2. condemn those who killed them.
if we dont do it then we are beghairat. usa atleast kills those who did 911 and we are not willing to even condemn those who kill us.
I don’t see any change coming…
the value of a pakistani life doesn’t count anything…
Why don’t these terrist(whatever) understand that by killing ordanary people won’t help..it won’t effect any policy…
because zardari or ahmad mukhtar don’t have any roots in pakistani people they just don’t care…
I don’t know man whats gonna happen no change..
In last year it has become a crime to be muslim…
u can’t live in ur home peacefully not even outside…
When will things change…when…
Please Allah we had enough Please …
Talibans and their supporters are at the verge of destroying Pakistan. And people here haven’t yet come out of PPP and Zardari phobia. Open your eyes and know your enemies!
Pakistani Establishment and Army needs to open their eyes and take a U turn on its past policies which were 100% wrong. Supporting religious fanatics and Talibans for short term political purpose has long term consequences and that’s what we are seeing today. Zia Shaitan form 1979 started this Mess and Musharraff took it to the Peak. ISI still considers some Talibans in FATA as government friendly which is ABSURD. These guys has no shame or sense of nationhood. Pakistan is a miserably failed state but there is still a chance to take it from current grind. If Paki army bster generals will stay away from politics and focus on professional matters………………..
Marriot Bomb was orchestrated by US…Ansar Abbasi
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17401
What is shame in Pakistani politics is that so far Jamiat Islami QAZI and JUI Fazloo has never condemned Talibans. No wonder MMA provided umberalla to Talibanization in NWFP during MMA & ISI rule in the last 7 years. There is credible evidence that during Musharraff rule ISI rigged elections in favor of MMA.
@ ashahid… the link you posted is realy shocking.
Sunday, September 21, 2008
By Ansar Abbasi
ISLAMABAD: Was there a top secret and mysterious operation of the US Marines going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked on Saturday evening? No one will confirm it but circumstantial evidence is in abundance.
Witnessed by many, including a PPP MNA and his friends, a US embassy truckload of steel boxes was unloaded and shifted inside the Marriott Hotel on the same night when Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.
Both the main gates (the entrance and the exit) of the hotel were closed while no one except the US Marines were either allowed to go near the truck or get the steel boxes unloaded or shift them inside the hotel. These steel boxes were not passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the hotel lobby and were reportedly shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.
Besides several others, PPP MNA Mumtaz Alam Gilani and his two friends, Sajjad Chaudhry, a PPP leader, and one Bashir Nadeem, witnessed this mysterious activity to which no one other than the PPP MNA objected and protested.
A source present there told The News that after entertaining them with refreshments at the Nadia restaurant at midnight when Mumtaz Alam, along with his friends, was to leave the hotel, he found a white US embassy truck standing right in front of the hotel’s main entrance.
Both the In-gate and the Out-gate of the hotel were closed while almost a dozen well-built US Marines in their usual fatigues were unloading the steel boxes from the truck. No one, including the hotel security men, was either allowed to go near the truck or touch the steel boxes, which were being shifted inside the hotel but without passing through the scanners.
Upon inquiry, one of the three PPP friends who was waiting for the main gates of the hotel to open to get his car in, was informed that the suspicious boxes were shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the hotel. Mumtaz Alam was furious both at the US Marines and the hotel security not only for the delay caused to them but also for the security lapse he was witnessing.
On his protest, there was absolutely no response from the Marines and the security men he approached were found helpless. Mumtaz Alam told the hotel security official that they were going to endanger the hotel and its security. He was also heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again. He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament.
One does not know whether the PPP MNA revisited the hotel after that mysterious midnight but his brother Imtiaz Alam, who is a senior journalist, was in the same hotel when the truck exploded at the main gate of the hotel. Imtiaz Alam had a lucky escape and found his way out of the hotel with great difficulty in pitch darkness.
One of the lifts he was using fell to the ground floor just after he forced the door open on the 4th floor and got out of it.
I regularly comment on ISI and Paki Army role in this Taliban drama and there are many pakistani friends who either call me an Afghan agent or RAW agent. Thanks Allah that Hamid Mir has presented absolute facts in his documentary.
Please review “Hamid MIR on FATA” 100% facts though unbelievable to many innocent Pakistanis.
I don’t believe Ansar abbassi. He is pure taliban lover.
Wake up people.
The owner of the hotel is Sadruddin Hashwani, a friend of Asif Zardari and asset of foreign intelligence agencies. He and Zardari co-own a Holiday Inn in Houston, Texas.
Hashwani consented to temporarily storing sensitive U.S. military equipment in the hotel. First the fire was restricted to a few rooms, then it spread like wildfire. Probably because of the military hardware.
Dirty game going on. WAKE UP.
Pakistan is becoming a dirty mix of Lebanon and Iraq.
Mumtaz alam is PPP MNA or he also linked with taliban?
@ Jamshed Khan Can you not see that this is a typical false flag operation. And even if this was “Taliban” operation how do you propose that they should be wiped out. Has US succeeded in a similar objective elsewhere.
As regards the leadership of this God forsaken country let us take the top three one by one
1. Can you imagine Zardari holding a coherent conversation with Master Bush
2. Can you imagine baradk marr Kiyani so much as swat a US fly talk less of taking on their Army
3. Can you imagine “Bhola” NS being able to represent the feelings of his nation against his brother Zardari. After all he was at least complicit in sabotaging the Lawyers movement along with Aitzaz Ahsan.
& The less said about yateem Gillani the better.
Wakeup Bro!
I didn’t know US is so stupid to carry bombs in the embassy trucks.
I don’t see any future hope for Pakistan now.
Astakfar!!! Allah Mian tu reham kardeh!!!! hukumat ki saza logoon ko kyun milye!!! it is just so sad and tragic!!!!!
Pakistan at war.
This our war
Army cant win any war if common ppl are against them we all know fata ppl are angry and fire of revenge is burning in their hearts but who is adding fuel by using drones n special ops our allie USA to weak pak army and make them unpopular
ppl like najm sethi american tout still saying on media that pakistan should take help 4rm usa idiot still think this is terror war
when ppl like hamid meer told u truth that americans are successful and after banu n kohat pakistan ends we critisized them
guys this america new strategy to take control of fata by terror
ofcourse its our enemies of pakistan have unleashed door of terror by paid armed mercinaries army sponsored by usa afghans and all enemies of pakistan
we are underattack both from blacksheeps from inside and enemies from across boders.
These hidden blacksheeps who live in country but working for enemies they pose more serious threat to our security they are every where govt army media we can identify them easily with their filthy mouths.its our responsibilty to identify and exposing them and show them exit
we are at war enemies have declared it upon us we have to fight back plz dont repeat history by showing hater for fata ppl show them we all love them and care about them our heart cry on both killed in fata or islamabad.
Dont treat them like we have treated bengalis in 1971 otherwise we will another east pakistan.
May Allah forgive and protect pakistan.pakistan khapay
ALLAH KI REHMAT KA SAYA
TUHEED KA PARCHAM LE RAYA
CHAL UTH MUJAHID JAAG ZARA
PHER WAQT SHAHADAT HAI AYA.ALLAH O AKBAR
Afhganis are calling for Allah mercy for the last 30 years.
Palestinians are calling for Allah help for the last 60 years
So are Somalies calling for Allha hlep..
Now we Pakistani will pray for Allah help…..
These explosions are the work of American agencies. Zardari and PPP were having hard time selling uncle Sams ‘war on terror’ to Pakistanis so Bush decided to lend a hand. Note how the only thing every PPP minister said was we have to fight this war.
There is no al’Qaida or Islamic terrorists. These so called terrorists are working for the CIA if they do exist.
911-7/7 and Bali bombing were all the work of CIA so that they can achieve their objectives of a uni-polar world that would be under the total controll of America.
People who voted for PPPP sold Pakistan to Drakulas. If PPPP repeats the events of 1971. The people of Pakistan will hang every PPPP minister and MNA.
Jang reported mysterious activity of American marines at marriot when the blast took place.
See link below
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2008-daily/21-09-2008/main.htm
Read Ansar Abbasi’s Report on Jang website.
Suspicious activity was going on in this hotel
American marines moved big white boxes inside a few days ago. PPP MNA Mumtaz Alam noted that and protested.
This looks like work of CIA and American agencies so that it would be blamed on Alqaida and Taliban.and Pakistani government will keep fighting America’s terrorist war.
Canada saya
Go
Zardari please remove Rehman Malik DALA
PPP is bunch of ghadar’s, because every sensible Pakistani is against bombing on civilian. Why PPP by pass parliment on this very seriouse issue?
Guys most of Pakistnais say this is American War on terror??
Understood.. no problem
What about this Talibans in FATA, SWAT and rest of NWFP. What is the solutions…
Talibans are FIGS, basters, brainless, They are by no definition Humans. They can kill for anyone who give them money. RAW or CIA or ISI.
ISI created them and now others are using them, so my big question is PPP will stop this war because you say this is American war. Give any solution for elimination of Talibans?????????
Well! The blast and subsequent bloodspilling of innocent people: drivers, security guards, receptionists, doormen, and other poor people is beyond doubt is really awful. All death is reprehensible. Having condemned violence let us say few things by way of analysis about the causes of such events in Pakistan.
This is not the work of CIA, RAW, MOSAD, or any other international secret service. It is purely an expression of the agony, frustration, and angst felt by people who have come under unwarranted and unjustified US attacks in our tribal areas.
While most of these commentators (above)seem to be disproportionately outraged about this event but how about daily killings, of childern, women, and other vulnerable people in tribal areas by our own Pakistan army and their foreign patrons.
It is time now to say goodbye to the Great Satan America. While many people had disliked the way Ayatollah Khomeinei portrayed these Tagoti forces besetting the Muslim world. Today his assessment of our contemporary malaise in the Muslim world seems to be quite prescient.
It is time now to finally off-load the great American burden from our shoulders. Pakistan should look to redirect its intests elsewhere.
@Jamshed Khan
Taliban have been around for almost thirty years, so why has the killing only started now?
FATA was always a self regulated region where people openly carried fire arms. This never caused any problems before.
All the problems of this region are due to the illegal American occupation of afghanistan. 911 was an inside job. Its aim was to subdue the American public to a police state and introduce the right of pre-emptive attack on other nations. The Taliban of Afghanistan were not negotiating with America on the gas pipeline that was so much the need of America. America also needed the oil of Iraq as she is the biggest oil user of the world and most of all America wanted to crush Pakistan’s military power through destabalising the country. Americans are very near to achieving thier goal. I have spoken to poeple from tribal areas where military is active. They have told me about dead Talibans that have beareds but are not circumcised.
Is it really strange that they are discovering Talibans of such nature when Afghanistan is the new headquater of RAW, MOSAD and CIA?
So my American firend, there aren’t many Pakistanis who take the completely biased and one sided view that youare trying to promote.
All the problems of Pakistan are simply due to Musharrafs policies that are now being excecuted by PPPP.
Even if their are genuine reactionaries in FATA then its Musharraf and PPPP policies that are to be blamed.
@ali al-Hakim
Tribalists do not have the experties nor the equipment by defualt to carry out such attacks. Foriegn agency invovement at some level is inevitable.
Look into Hashwani. He’s the missing link.
“There is no greater national security threat facing Pakistan than USA and its associates.”
Our army cannot even masterbate without American oil and our public cannot do Iftar without Pakoras bouight with the help from US Aid. What national security are you talking about?
Zia Mardood sold this nation to Americans.
@Asim Shabbir
“But one should understand why these all hapenning in our country. its like TIT FOR TAT situation.”
Unfortunately both TIT and TAT are our own.
@
“You might wish to crush the ” savage Bastards ” and the ” savage bastards” might want to do the same to you. And since the great Hyper Power of USA has evidently failed to CRUSH the” savage Bastards” after 8 years-
pray tell us HOW you an old MALANG can crush them . Do you have a plan or a proposal or just a wish ?
”
USA has for sure crushed the Al-Qaida and Talban in Afghanistan and that poor country is progressing much faster than any time in past 40 years. The problem is that Musharaf played double game and let Talban establish them in FATA in the form of multiple war lords who provide fee-for-service suicide bombers to India, russia, drug lords etc to do actionsinside Afghanistan or Pakistan. There is is huge foreign money and drug mafia involved. We need to crush these savages for the sake of Pakistan or else they will make a Somalia out of this poor nation.
How to crush them is quite easy. Fund and Equip Tribes to fight with these groups wwith air and ground support from Army. Most tribes wants militants out because they are destroying their own life. This tactic is a success in Afghanistan and for sure will be a success in FATA.
“So it would be of help if you could stop blaming this or that since you have no evidence against Hamid Meer or anyone else.”
Media must stop portraying these militants as ‘innocent’ and ‘hero’. They are evil villians who will destroy the basic social fabric of Pakistan for ever. We have to choose between Talban and Pakistan and we want Pakistan.
9/11 attacks were carried out by Mossad.
Marriot Hotel attacks are carried out by RAW.
Lal Masjid was full of women and children.
Only women and children are dying in Tribal Areas ” Hamid Mir”
Coutsey: Pakistan Tehrike-e-Taliban
Of late, I have read many comments by various visitors to this column, who constantly berate the so-called Talibans & Mullahs, as if these were a different or special human species, than what we all, are.
I have offered my comments here before also, on this very subject, while explaining some rationale behind real Talibans & ‘mullahs’ .
I wish to clarify here, a point or two, that I have no inclination or desire to follow any of them; but I do respect their views, whether I subscribe to them or not; as I happen to be a cleaned-shaved individual, having my own views, & maybe different to theirs.
BUT I wish, here again, to request our enlightened & learned visitors, to please be rational, while expressing their views on such sensitive subjects, & should please, instead, seek guidance from reason & intellect, because if they give way to their personal emotions & sentimentality, then they may lose their grip on good reasoning & rationality.
The reason why I say so, is, because that the so-called Talibans fighting Pakistan govt, are NOT, I REPEAT, NOT, the real Talibans in / of, Afghanistan. It is all because of the propaganda of Yankee bastards, followed by our govt,to suit their own ends.
Secondly,please dont call every bearded person as a Mulluh, as such people are learned people, in the science of religion, & should be called as Maulanas instead.
These learned people DESERVE FULL RESPECT, NOT because of their own-selves, but because of the religious knowledge they posses.
I think every person belonging to the Sunni or Shia school of thought, is taught since his/her childhood, to pay due & proper respect to such people.
The word ‘Mullah’ is usually used in a derogatory sense, which should please be,at best, avoided.
@
“Tribalists do not have the experties nor the equipment by defualt to carry out such attacks. ”
But these people sold themselves to CIA to fight against Russians canb sell themselves to any one under the sun. I don’t rule out the possibility of RAW. If ISI can send bombers to Dehli - do you think they will send you flower.
No, you idiot. This wasn’t done by foreign agencies. This was done by terrorists.
It is very obvious though that they were tipped off about the presence of U.S. security officials and military equipment.
Again, look at Hashwani. He is the missing link.
About Rehman Malik.Somebody yesterday told me that Rehman Malik is from a very poor background, probably from a barber family.
True or false? Maybe the the old VIP watchers can assist, who used to give background info on Sheeda(Sh. Rasheed)the favorite ’spokesman’
or ‘Bhand ‘of SOB Mush, & also his favorite
( Railways) Minister.
I, personally dont bear a grudge against a person of low background, holding a high profile appointment later in life.
We need more action than mere hollow statements from the government, which does not have any clue how to address this issue. Just because there is so-called democracy in the country with the supreme wh0re Zardari elected as the president does not mean that this issue will go away on its own. Have a look at the moronic statements from these non-elected b@stards:
“Rehman says Pakistan will be militant-free soon”
http://thepost.com.pk/MainNewsT.aspx?bdtl_id=12715&fb_id=2&catid=14
Now, what world is this moron living in?
“We stand undeterred: Zardari”
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17402
Does he really believe that people would listen and believe in this thief?
“COAS leaves for China tonight”
http://thepost.com.pk/MainNewsT.aspx?bdtl_id=12725&fb_id=2&catid=14
Shouldn’t he stay in the country at this time instead of going abroad?
This is abetter article to read if you care about truth:
http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/21/top4.htm
ZARDARI WILL DO NOTHING,HIS US TRIP IS 2 CONFIRM HIS SEAT AS PRESIDENT FOR 5-10YRS SAME LIKE MUSH…THE PERSON WHO CAN KILL HIS WIFE CAN EVEN DESTROY DIS COUNTRY…HE NEVER CARES…
Assalam-o-Alaikum,
It is a security lapse, responsible persons should be suspended within 48 hours from their posts due to the negligence they have done during they have to provide the security arrangements in Islamabad on the most important day when two very sensitive get togethers were scheduled in the city.(Joint Session and Iftar Dinner Gathering) Secretary Interior, IG Police, SSP, SP Security, DSP Secretariat Police Line must be responsible for this disaster.
I personally feel, the above mentioned persons accountable without any doubt.
Something fishy was already going on at the Marriott. There might be more players in this than the obvious ones.
What were these US Marines doing there and what was in these boxes? Flammable fuel?
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17401
What is happening is all about to scrap Pakistan nuclear arsenal and make them fossil material.
Nukes are considered to be Saviour of the Nations here we[Pakistanis]are struggling to save them……
I am asking you guys,you blame RAW,CIA,MOSAD and XYZ,Why Pakistani nation is spending its annual 80%budget on ARMY,Police and other Paramilitary nearly 2 millions in numbers.Why they are for?what is there duty?Why they are taking wages for?
DETRIOTATION OF THE NATIONS
We are going to this ERA……..
After 9/11 how many people have been killed in USA?
Answer is not even a single……..
If I ask how much we lost after 9/11?
The answer is more the million lives and the top of it we are going to lose I AM AFRAID PAKISTAN
Now this is something that needs serious explanation so I am posting most the article here…
Was it an attack on US Marines?
By Ansar Abbasi
ISLAMABAD: Was there a top secret and mysterious operation of the US Marines going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked on Saturday evening? No one will confirm it but circumstantial evidence is in abundance.
Witnessed by many, including a PPP MNA and his friends, a US embassy truckload of steel boxes was unloaded and shifted inside the Marriott Hotel on the same night when Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.
Both the main gates (the entrance and the exit) of the hotel were closed while no one except the US Marines were either allowed to go near the truck or get the steel boxes unloaded or shift them inside the hotel. These steel boxes were not passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the hotel lobby and were reportedly shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.
Besides several others, PPP MNA Mumtaz Alam Gilani and his two friends, Sajjad Chaudhry, a PPP leader, and one Bashir Nadeem, witnessed this mysterious activity to which no one other than the PPP MNA objected and protested.
A source present there told The News that after entertaining them with refreshments at the Nadia restaurant at midnight when Mumtaz Alam, along with his friends, was to leave the hotel, he found a white US embassy truck standing right in front of the hotel’s main entrance.
Both the In-gate and the Out-gate of the hotel were closed while almost a dozen well-built US Marines in their usual fatigues were unloading the steel boxes from the truck. No one, including the hotel security men, was either allowed to go near the truck or touch the steel boxes, which were being shifted inside the hotel but without passing through the scanners.
Upon inquiry, one of the three PPP friends who was waiting for the main gates of the hotel to open to get his car in, was informed that the suspicious boxes were shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the hotel. Mumtaz Alam was furious both at the US Marines and the hotel security not only for the delay caused to them but also for the security lapse he was witnessing.
On his protest, there was absolutely no response from the Marines and the security men he approached were found helpless. Mumtaz Alam told the hotel security official that they were going to endanger the hotel and its security. He was also heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again. He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament….
Regarding above article, I find it curious that the blast happened where that white truck was and the fire started on top floors where those boxes were allegedly moved…
@SnrCtzn
“About Rehman Malik.Somebody yesterday told me that Rehman Malik is from a very poor background, probably from a barber family. True or false?”
Jamhooriat had posted an answer to your query here…
i feel so bad,i hv no words 2 say :’(
Adding to the report by Ansar Abbasi…
Senior CIA officers were target of Islamabad blastUS Marines may have been target of Marriot attack: Officials
US Marines could have been the Marriott target
Senior CIA officers were target of Islamabad blast
The CIA and the Marriot Bomb in Islamabad
This was meant to happen! USA, U.K., australia etc. could care less about this, they are condemning it but with their mouth that is. CNN and Fox are probably covering it because they have nothing else except the presidential campaigns to cover or maybe because there were two FOREIGN PEOPLE killed in the blast. Last but not least, the PRESIDENT’S TRIP to U.S. is simply to ensure U.S. of their support on the ‘WAR’ and to kill as many innocent people as possible and in return to get ‘FUNDS’ for himself.
@nota : I think that DOES make sense….the fire burned the whole night and the top floors are still too hot to enter. They are saying the metal and materials may have melted to the extent that the building must be brought down.
question 1 : what possible flammable substance was on those floors that burned for so long and at such a high temperature?
If it was a gas leak, wouldnt the fire fighters have turned off the main supply as soon as they realised it?
question 2 : bringing the building down might be the easiest way to cover up the evidence ?
Sounds familiar - like the World Trade Center towers burning and then rubble very quickly cleaned up.
my heart cries out, this is just terrible. May Allah bless the souls of all dead.
I really hope they find out who was behind all this so that we know who is our enemy; it could very well be RAW or taliban
By the way why are these guys allowed in places like this? Shouldn’t they be kept at a base or something? Is it because it is convenient for our politicians to collect their lifafas in the comfort of a 5-star hotel in town?
Let me ask you another question along the lines: If tomorrow someone attacks “@#$” Hotel in Islamabad, WHO should get the blame? It is pretty common knowledge here that the 5th floor of “@#$” Hotel holds the offices of FBI. Why is this allowed? Why risk our peoples lives for the comfort of the FBI? Isn’t it like saying “Aa bayl mujhay maar”?
@fair analysis
you call it blackmail. What if your parents or brothers and sisters were killed by drones and Pak F16s and gunships in Bajoor and were called as collaterals - how would you feel.
This fire was started by Bush and Musharraf fueled it and now Zardari and his dumb cohorts are carrying it forward for the sake of power - so what would you expect.
Plus the news is already out that US Marines were there in that hotel. All your bases and seaports are taken over by Americans and your PAF planes cannot move without first intimating US forces IN PAKISTAN.
Pakistan has been sold to the Americans by these thugs and choors and you call this blackmail.
Frankly enough if you go and kill my parents or brothers and sisters dont expect that I would present you with flowers.
We as a nation should be honest enough to accept what we are doing rather than accepting American propoganda which says that they can do anything IT IS RIGHT but if anything is done in retaliation IT IS TERRORISM.
The biggest terrorist in US and now Zardari and Kiyani who have unleashed a reign of terror in tribal areas.
See how it feels when the war comes to your house - its easy to go and burn other people’s houses and kill innocent people there.
Remember in an independent estimate about 10 thousand innoncent Muslims have been martyred by Pakistani forces which calls itself MUSLIM FORCES in cooperation with Kafirs from Afghanistan.
Pakistan has paid a huge price fighting wars for USA. what it has got in return in millionare generals, drugs, guns and now sucide bombings. The only way out of this mess is to pull the troops out of FATA and stop killing you own people. USA can not control its border with Mexico and it expects Pakistan to seal the border with Afghanistan.It will be tough decision, but there is no way out of this deep hole that Busharaff has dug for our nation.
for all those who support action in FATA and are in love with Americans - my so called liberal fascists brothers and sisters
read this article
http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/21/top4.htm
it is titled - Bajur is where war is to be won or lost -
In one of the lines Mr Ismail writes that Army must have sighed a relief to get appreciation of American administration - is this our criteria of success and if this is a criteria then I am sorry to say that that battle in FATA would never end - in fact some fools have started a fire which would never end - but in fact is a start of a revolution which is bound to come. Just like Musharraf a day would come soon when teh present goverment would realise that they should not have removed CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry because I dont see this government surviving beyond six months and when then would go to courts the judges even if they are PCO or otherwise would never forgive Zardari and Naik for the humiliation they have subjected to judiciary - so the game has just begun.
@Sirius
That is why I had mentioned the a href=”http://pkpolitics.com/2008/09/20/blast-at-islamabad-marriot/#comment-116075″>Reichstag issue above.
Look at where do we stand right now:
1. Our government has just decided to escalate the war of terror
2. American special forces are coming
3. Issue about sovereignty is being raised giving a beating to what’s left of our army’s image
Could there be a better time to carry out a false flag black op to make yahoos forget about all that and call for blood? Is AZ today not at the same point where Bush was on 9/10?
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.” — Benjamin Franklin
Surprise! Surprise!!
U.S. links Islamabad blast to Al-Quaeda
@nota
I wish it wasnt true but today has convinced me that what you are saying is absolutely logical and the only explanation that makes sense.Sadly, the pieces are now falling into place.
Maybe some of us have moved back enough from our tvs to see the big picture but my worry is that by the time enough people see this, it will be far too late.
Id like to add a few more random events to you list.
“Look at where do we stand right now:
1. Our government has just decided to escalate the war of terror
2. American special forces are coming
3. Issue about sovereignty is being raised giving a beating to what’s left of our army’s image”
4.Economic collapse of the US financial system and US Dollar which can only be avoided by artificial means - war
5. Danger to America’s hegemony from New World Order developing with the emergence of China, our neighbour and recovering Russia. US control is in place from Middle East to India with the exception of two stubborn nations - Iran and Pakistan. US needs control over these two to counter China’s strength. Well documented fact e.g. organisation called Project for New American Century (PNAC)
The brutality of the Taliban during their rule in Afghanistan is well-documented fact. Any Afghan will testify to it. 99% of Afghans despise the Taliban. Over the years, I have found an alarmingly number of Pakistanis who try to defend them. Now that they are here, doing the same to us, this people seem to still be in denial. I’m not a fan of the army and certainly not the thugs of the bush administration. However, to blame all of this on the US & the army is just plain irrational. Things in the world are never black & white. There are ciminals hiding in our tribal areas who not only commit these heinous acts but have the audacity to use Islam as a pretext. Unless and until the majority of the people of our country acknowledge this fact, this problem will not go away. This is a mess created by the army and the US back in the 80’s and this is a mess that they will have to fix. We on our end will need to be honest about it. Conspiracy theories are an act of paranoia. And paranoia is a symptom of schizophrenia.
We need to stop acting insane.
@Sirius
Let me just throw out another idea: Why the sudden focus on Pakistan? Does it have anything to do with the thrashing West got in Georgia? Does that mean they have realized their pipeline dreams through Georgia have gone up in smoke, at least for the foreseeable future? The only other choice is the old Unocal pipeline (TAPI)? Certainly Pakistan is easier to tackle than locking horns with Russia!!!
@nota
Yet another interesting angle. We are rather unfortunate in being geographically positioned where we are.
@muntazir
You are just speaking the mind of paki corrupt ISI and establishment. This is what they are successful. What sadden me to death is that most of our educated class lacks the ground realities in Pakistan.
First of all Talibans are FIGS, barbarians, headless, basters, and they have no religion or humanity.
The very existence of FATA (Federally Administrated Tribal Areas which includes Khyber, Mohmand, Bajaur, Orakzai,N-Waziristan, S-Waziristan & Kurram Agencies) is a conspiracy, and this should have been merged in NWFP as settled districts long time ago. They are the same pathans like the one lives 5 miles away in Peshawar or Malakand Division. They are no different than other pathans, then why should they enjoy the special status. And what FATA achieved of this special status. Nothing. Why were they kept in dark ages in the pretext that they are semi-independent was because the corrupt establishment reminded Pakistanis that our prophet MA Jinnah the great promised them this special status. All bullshit.
The corrupt establishment and ISI kept these areas in dark ages for the sole purpose of using them against Afghanistan. The magna Carta of Paki Army is that 1- keep Afghanistan busy with Talibans type people. and 2- India is our enemy # 1. On this ground Paki Generals sucks 90% of Pakistani Budget and has educated Urban Punjab with this KALAMA, who are the only Pakstanis. Any minority who sopke for their rights are traitors. Only Punjabis are patriots.
Now ISI and Paki Army was successful till 60 years, but now those Talibans created and trained by ISI have turned against Pakistan because Afghanistan border is closed by NATO. Now those masked barbers who belongs to Hell and call itself Taliban want to create Islamic State, and in this process has killed 1000s of innocent people.They are systemically killing the elder, elite and educated class of Pathans. This is a grave conspiracy. All those who justifies Talibans even 1% are Stupid and I wihs Allah bless their family with Talibans so they can have a taste of it too.
@ Mangla Baba
You analysis is correct and reflect ground realities. It was war of America but now Musharraff double game has made it Pakistani War. Mush has strengthened Taliban so much that no they are very sophisticated. I believe that the current ruling Party PPP is not worse than any bad actors in the past. Zia was the greatest Shaitan and so was Musharraf who and his Generals sold Pakistan and Pakistanis. I appeal to Pakistanis that Pakistan is in great trouble and give PPP a chance. At least its 1000 times better than Corrupt Zia or Mushi or Chore commanders……..?????
Nawaz Sharif does not deserve to be called a leader and does not deserve another chance. I wish Pakistanis kik his ass with shoes. He looks like an idiot and acted like one…
can someone please once for all shut up this mangla baba , why the hell he is supporting zpp , this is worse than musharraf/zia or any other party this is a group of dirty disgusting munafiqs , i feel ashamed that i have been a voter , lover and die hard supporter of this party , i hope and pray to God that some one like naheed khan , abbasi , j badar although he act and talk crazy and idiot , mairaj khalid if he is still alive , nd khan , az ahsan if he has some balls , this is high time this is a time for ultimate rev and final encounter with these munafiqs and get them out of the picture , all these taliban , a qaida are secondary issue , primary issue is a genuine and loyal leader like a najat who is not worried about his billions and surrey palace , bilawal who is partying over the weekend , and he is a future leader, may be the adm should post some of the pictures of these munafiqs when they were carrying pictures and protesting in islamabad and other places for i chaudry and lawyer movement so some of these zpp on this forum can just leave this forum in emabarrasment , i dont know what adm is waiting for , publish and post those pictures and public not forget that they are munafiq and guess what worse than musharraf , zia , ayub and any other dictator
Better we fight against US army rather then fighting against Taliban or bomb our own people. Kick US army ass out of afghanistan and we will have peace in both countries.We were trying to avoid war but after this blast and drone attacks, Pakistan become war zone.So bring this war to the western borders with all might and force we got. kick US army ass out of afghanistan.
Ministers along with PM & President in constant manner are harping the same string:
• HUM MULZAIMAN KO KAIFAR E KIRDAR TUK PHUNCHA KUR DUM LAINGAY
• DEHSHAT GURDOON KO SUKHT SAY SUKHT SAZA DI JAI GI
• DEHSAT GURDOON KAY KHILAF JUNG JARI RAHI GI
• DEHSHAT GURDOON SAY AHNI PUNJUN SAY NIMBTA JAI GA
• BEROONI HAATH KAY IMKAN KO NAZAR ANDAZ NAHI KIYA JASAKTA
• HUM KHAMOSH TAMASHAI BANAI NAHI RAIH SUKTAY
B U T
ABOVE ALL: We will not surrender to take DICTATION from USA!!!
The question is that how wise it was to surrender to US wishes after just one phone call. Could that wise decision save Pakistan?
If our leaders had the courage to take a moral stand at that time and politely told US that our sympathies are with you in this national catastrophe but we are sorry we will not become part of attacking our brother neighbour country, all US could do was to impose some sanctions on Pakistan. It is against US policy to fight an organised army, what to talk about a nuclear power.
But how safe are we now? Today we are totaly in their clutches and our current leaders have no courage to come out of their web.
Our wise leaders have brought others war to Pakistan and i am sure no US sanctions could have hit us as bad as in what shape our economy is right now! and things are going from worse to worst.
Islamabad was a city considered to be the most beautiful and safe not only by the locals but also by the foreigners. But it is the blunder of our policy makers that we have allowed our enemies to enter into our country and impose a proxy war on us.
@ Jamshed Khan
@ Malang Baba
@ All those American lovers who just can’t stop sucking off America’s tits esp. calling Taliban brain-washed. They are a lot of thins but not brainwashed..
I don’t get it when you call Hamid Mir Taliban lover. Are the journalists in the British press also Taliban lovers?
New breed of Taliban replaces old guard
By Alex Thomson
Last Updated: 1:24AM BST 17/09/2008
Money and a hatred of foreigners are motivating a new generation of Afghan fighters.
CHANNEL 4
The new Taliban fighters talk more like old-time Mujahideen discussing the Russian invaders than the unsmiling students of Mullah Omar
Mehran Bozorgnia, a cameraman working for Channel 4 News, spent time with the Taliban in Kandahar in southern Afghanistan to discover this new breed.
After months of planning, phone calls, endless cups of tea at meetings in Kabul to arrange the visit, it began with two knocks at the steel door of a mud compound near the southern city.
Eyes glinted as a face and a white turban appeared - as did a Kalashnikov. The door slammed shut. Nerve-wracking minutes passed before the door opened again.
Inside, it turned out to be the former home of Mullah Dadullah, the Mujahideen-turned-Taliban commander, killed by Nato forces (including Britain’s Special Boat Service) last year. The house is still a command centre for “the Taliban”. But that word is starting to lose meaning.
Beware: these men may lay down their lives for you if you are their guest. But they may hack your head off if you’re an intruder.
They soon demonstrated gruesome beheading videos on their state-of-the-art mobiles to establish their credentials.
Hamidullah Khan, a veteran fighter in his mid-forties, underlined why the wild body-counts of the Afghan government are meaningless. These Talibs fight, he claimed, like shark’s teeth. “This is the late Mullah Dadullah’s home. He gave his life for God’s will. When he was killed 20,000 more came forward in the name of Dadullah. They’re now behind him. This is the Taliban way. When one is killed another comes in. Then another. We don’t leave the ground empty.”
And there was no evidence here of hordes crossing the frontier from Pakistan. To a man they were Afghan. The sole foreigner, Aftab Panjabi, a former Pakistan Army officer, took a dozen Talibs through the art of firing an AK47 accurately.
They were candid about their motives. There was no chat of Mullah Omar - the old Taliban leader - nor Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. Their fight is both modern - and yet traditional.
In modern terms they feel nothing has changed. They see a country mired in corruption. They know there is a government of sorts in distant Kabul but it has no writ here. Haji Hyatullah, in his twenties, may have his face covered in black turban - but talks openly about getting far more money fighting with the Taliban than any other job around. Assuming for a second that there were any jobs. “People are getting fed up with the lies the government has told them.
There is no work for people. They do this because they need a piece of bread to eat,” he said.
But surely someone has got to negotiate eventually with the government? President Hamid Karzai himself wants that, even if the Americans are lukewarm.
“No, no, no,” he laughed, genuinely amused by the concept of negotiation with Kabul.
“We don’t see any need for talks with this government. Actually there is no such thing as the government. The issue here is foreign countries and we deal with them by fighting like this. Jihad is the only way for us. Our Jihad.”
And that is the second, timeless motive. Talk to them about fighting the British and they don’t do “war on terror”. Instead, they left the compound to visit a nearby graveyard, a resting place for Afghans who fought against the British over a century ago. Haji said: “People want to defend their independence, Islam and Afghan national pride. That’s why they come and support the Taliban.”
They were nonplussed that President Karzai says it is “un-Afghan” to attack Nato troops. And they have no lack of support.
Hamidullah Khan explained how arms and ammunition come in from both Pakistan and Iran. Asked where the general finance comes for all this, war being nothing if not expensive, he said: “The money’s coming in from all Islamic countries. All over the world.
“But in particular we are getting plenty of money from Islamic countries such as Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.”
During the visit, the fighters talked more like old-time Mujahideen, discussing the Russian invaders, than the unsmiling students of Mullah Omar.
By night they liked nothing more than a drop (or three) of whisky - though did not drink in front of a camera.
By day they encouraged locals to bet on the local sport of ram-fighting, laying money on which horned headbutter stuns its opponent the quickest. The Taliban who overtook this country more than a decade ago would have blanched.
They appeared equally happy to be filmed at a local wedding where - heaven forefend - a local band whacked out traditional Pashtun party tunes. The drum and keyboard combo need not have worried about the Mullah sending in goons to silence them. There is more, much more to the modern Taliban than brain-washed kids coming in from Pakistani madrassa schools, strapped up with explosives.
Of course they exist. But so do these new-style Afghan Talibs. Changed lifestyles and changed military tactics too. They happily showed off their stash of Afghan police and army uniforms. They discussed how they infiltrate local security forces. So they know when, where and how they will move. It’s all about intelligence, ambush technology - not the costly frontal assaults of old.
As if to prove that, they supplied a video of them using the main Kabul-Kandahar highway as cover for rocketing a nearby compound. Daylight, brazen, confident - they moved almost leisurely, firing from the road. The traffic barely slowed. And what can Nato do - strafe Afghanistan’s equivalent of the M1 motorway?
I remember when officials in Kabul pointed to that road as a shining symbol of “New Afghanistan”. Nowadays any Afghan will advise you to do anything you want on that road - except drive along it.
In all of this, an urgent lesson for Nato: these local, Afghan fighters enjoy real support. It is simply wrong to say it is just coercion and terror. Just like the Mujahideen did. Indeed, on this evidence the so-called Taliban might be changing into something far more like the Mujahideen than the madrassa-produced Pakistani Taliban.
Have Nato allowed themselves to become the new Russians? Many an Afghan would say yes.
• Alex Thomson is presenter and chief correspondent for ITN’s Channel 4 News. His report will be shown on Wednesday Sept 17 at 7pm
Certainly its a very very sad moment. My heart is craing but i want to ask you a question, what would you do if someone kills your whole family in front of your eyes. Do not forget there are people who want to take benefit from their eggration by showing them the wrong path. May Allah give these people Hdayat and forgive us and protect our elders and younger s. I pray to Allah to give us a leader who leads US but not follow US.
Pakistan is suffering because of RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE leading up to this tragedy.
Have mercy on yourself; don’t puke out words of ignorance, use cognitive and analytical faculties rather than partisan bickering on this national tragedy.
Lost East Pakistan; people like majority on this forum were in denial and then inevitable happened. Having vendetta against some political forces due to your own personal life frustrations is nothing more than r—- of words.
General Kiyani ” Fauj qom key saath hey”
B@stard! if so then as a first step army should appologize awam for their brutalities
@ c hussain
i can understand how bad the feelings will be. but instead of giving emotional speach lets look at ground realities.
ur argument “kill my family and i kill u”
r innocent ppl’s family members are killing us? fact is common ppl are smarter than many ppl in media. they have risen against talibans. ive just heard lashkar of 20 thousand local ppl have been made to remove talibans. r these ppl whos relatives are killed in war are stupid to rise against talibans? dont they know that govt will provide them arms and protect them when they kill terrorists?
common ppl are not doing these bomb blasts these are talibans which will be killed inshallah.
ur argument about “sold to america” this is our ppl mentality, if somone help us even little bit we will be going against him first. is usa not helping us kill talibans? isnt he our ally in that? any nation who helps us remove terrorists is our friend. they should be allowed to strike where ever they see terrorists in border areas.
@Ahmed Bhai
army should apologize to awam or talibans??
should we present haars to talibans? shouldnt they be killed?
@fairanalytsis
Awam! between haars and killing lies many things!
sincerity is required to avoid the current situation otherwise please note that Islamabad or metros have many things to loose but treble areas have not that much.
Army can not fight long fights for decades so we may not end up better than Iraq or Afghanistan
The more they fight more weaker they will become. Its better to talk in power than…
Taliban will not be able to take rule but certainly this will end up in destruction and army will be the biggest looser
if you declare them criminal then you also have to come clear.
@ahmed bhai
bro i see this problem in completely different way. ive already posted much on it. shows how polarised society we have become. roots of this polarization are history of lack of democracy and lack of justice in pakistan.
fairanalysis, i completely agree with you, the metnality of us ppl have become corrupted by the long dictatorship we have suffered and now we just want to pass out sentences on everybody, and think of ways of toppling the govt. if anybody thinks we will get democracy pure and clean over night, they are livingin a valley of fools, not even india with a istory of consistant democracy since 1947 is not free from corrupt politicians or terrorism. we need to be united today against the anti state elemnts, who ever they are.
If we compare Pakistan with india then we can say minorities in Pakistan are much more safer then india, Train burned in Gujrat and Hindus masacr over 2000 Muslims. Govt support rligious extremist Hindus. every one know about Golden Temple sikh’s genocide by Indian army .Plus every day at least Three kashmiri die in the result of Indian army firing. Indian democracy is only for Hindus.
Pakistan…is the only country in the world who is using Pakistani People money for killing them.
@Hameed Chaudhri
Why have you forgiven the infallible interior minister.
@gardezi
This is the point……….How many killed in USA post 9/11 ? They are not spending billions in vain. They have to keep Alqaida/Taliban/Muslim militants away , far away from America,Europe and Israel. India and some rich Arab states chip in directly or discretly to keep the ‘war’ away from their homes. Pakistan must be helped enough to keep standing in this great drama of life and death, but not enough to make her strong to take her own decisions. A strong Pakistan, with a friendly and strong Afghanistan is an anathema to India as well as the zionist influenced and Islam fearing West.
Puppet is back to its masterz for additional instructions leaving behind the burning Pakistan.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2008-daily/21-09-2008/update.htm#11
Every govt top official is having photo-ops with the vitimz & their heirs. And announcing cash help for the heirs.
What abt the people of Bajaur? Are they not humanbeings? they are victims of everybody Army Nato & Taliban?
Why don’t these top official pay a visit over their have photo-ops with them? Who is stopping them?
Oh! I forgot then how they will claim petro from US.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2008-daily/21-09-2008/update.htm#30
i am sure zardari league did this act to gain more and more from USA with the name of War on terror ……well done zardari we can see your real face now and you are 2nd Part of Mushraf …i am happy this is the last time of so called PPP…..Lanat tum pay zardari , rehman malik and khalnaik
As usual typical Hamid Mir lies…Hes the only person to see 100 dead people. While every one else is reporting 40 dead hes reporting 100…that about 150% off the mark.
Considering the moron that he is, 150% not bad.
When are we going to get rid of these yellow journalists.
BTW do you know that hes paid 30 lacks per month by Geo to spred lies.
@RonPaul
“While every one else is reporting 40 dead hes reporting 100…that about 150% off the mark.”
So was everyone. Why you have no complaints against Guardian that too was reporting “Hundreds Killed” till this morning? And would you say they are “supporting the terrorists” when they print articles like:
Strike at ‘den of Western decadence’??
“BTW do you know that hes paid 30 lacks per month by Geo to spred lies.”
I think that is a LIE. Where did you get this figure?
@RonPaul
The only moron here is YOU. Hamid Mir is a respectable journalist with guts to tell the truth. That’s a fact that scares many people.
Why is it that the media is giving this blast so much coverage but virtually no coverage to equivalent number of civilian deaths in FATA? I would like to know the reason. Any clues? Or will you shy away from this like a real moron.
and no one can justify it. If extemists has done this then they should know that they have not killed any of the person who they put their blame on. Mostly security and staff, who were innocent people, were killed. There can be another angle to this aswel. It could have been manufatured by those who were looking for justification which can be given to the people for their own acts. But they should know that blood of an innocent never go waste.
@antiliberal
“Why is it that the media is giving this blast so much coverage but virtually no coverage to equivalent number of civilian deaths in FATA”
Beats me. By the way don’t you love these liberal (fascists) who are for peace, human rights, justice, etc.:
MalangBaba says: We have no choice but to crush these savage bastards.
DilbarJani Says: Congratulations to all Taleban lovers and apologists.
baig_lahori Says: They should bomb the s**t out of FATA. We need Israeli like attitude now: touch us and we will hit you back very very hard. Use F16’s , cobra’s, helicopters….starve them to death.
Muhammad Usman Says: No logic can justify this horrible act.These people are not humans, but animals, beasts. These fascists called themselves muslims, shame on them. Any ony trying to condone this barbaric act, any reason is actually glorfying these beasts.We should not talk to these outfits. We should crush these animals.No matter, which party you support, we must support our government i crushing these bastards…
ijazahmad Says: its not usa not india not government of pakistan,its just stupid talban,just get united against these animals and supporters of these animals.
Muhammad Usman Says: No way , any one can be soft now on these animals… these talbaans are animals,they must be hunted with the help of international cummunety.
Paf123 Says: Anyone who tries to even faintly support this crazy mullah mentality should be crushed and every action should be taken…
Sjunejo Says: I don’t believe Ansar abbassi. He is pure taliban lover. Talibans and their supporters are at the verge of destroying Pakistan.
Forgot to add: “and against violence” after “who are for peace, human rights, justice, “
As Ansar Abbassi has informed this poor nation the US Marines were targated so be ready for more attacks because at PPP end this Govt. is very keen to take American Dictation and very much impressed with the their strengthed as well their technology alongwith their aid amount and at other end of Taliban they are too strubborn to perish their rival group, both does have strong nerves but lets whose nerves are stronger than other one, who will remain stand with strong nerves in this battle field!?
As I have posted an article and said:
1. This Americans Advisers are coming to train to Pak Army Officials is just an attempt to brain wash Pakistan Arm Forces and whitewash of Jihadi Element it is supposed their all efforts are proofed as vain attempt, besides they charge double dealing of Pakistan, as is playing a double game. According to their media It always has. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda are the offspring of Pakistan. Pakistani colonialism is responsible for all its current troubles, and predates 9/11. It stems from Pakistan’s jihadi tinged obsession about Kashmir and its fears about the non recognition of the Durand line on its western front by all Afghans and its own restive, traditional Pashtun population. America scarred by its Vietnam experience left it to the Pakistanis to set up the framework and personnel for the anti-Soviet operations. The Pakistanis under Zia-ul-Haq, taking advantage of the gullible Americans, saw a chance to advance their own Islamic agenda, gave the anti Soviet crusade an Islamic flavor, the consequences of which are being seen today. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Americans left and the Pakistanis of course did not dismantle the jihadi outfits and continued to use these groups as assets in their jihad against India and for ensuring that Afghanistan remained their backyard. 9/11of course changed all that. Nobody, other than they blame to Pakistan Army Generals particularly Zia ul Haq & Co. are responsible for their own mess thereafter Benazir & Co. But in present scenario as Americans are frustrated to come over at Pakistan and the last & final War want with Muslims at Pakistan because of its Necular Capability at the end of the day American can conclude the result they inadvertently scored a self-goal.
Thousands of innocent tribals, women, old, men and children are dying every day in tribal areas. More than a thousand forced to members of armed forces have also died in tribal areas. They are not taken into any such a notice like this blast where upto 60 died. Those people are not in the notice of the government like this just because no farangee is there among them in danger and they are away from the houses of the central Pakistani authorities.
It is the war of the United States America and Pakistanis are killing their people for her just for a few dollars.
Salam All
A very very sad day for all of us. But a really amazing and astonishing fact to all of us and a think to understand who is INVOLVED:
Salam All
A very very sad day for all of us. But a really amazing and astonishing fact to all of us and a think to understand who is INVOLVED:
When Pakistani People was about to change their thinking and perception about the war against terrorism. U.S.A strick again. They have funded this attack.
They have done it right on the time when America’s naked objectives were unleashed and the media was revealing america’s game plan which involve the current government and its ill doing.
They have hit our most sensitive place to provoke us to go against the Jangali taliban. they have used them with heavy money and resources to make this plan successfull.
Now we all without understanding that who has confused us and who is the fucking curropt person funded by America’s NRO and its deal. They will never say no.
Rahman Malik has totally failed. Zardari is fully coordinating with americans to break Pakistan.
Behold Pakistanis…we must not get confused. Its against us. Wake up.
Ya.Allah.Khair
India, US, UK & above all a group of criminal mercenaries set up by the CIA, FBI, BRITISH INTERPOL, MOOSAD & RAW based in Kabul and supported by the some half hearted high profile officials of PPP and by compulsion the Pakistani ISI the battle is about to start with Al Qaeda on full scale because as per the claim of West they carried out the attacks on New York. America was attacked by it’s own proxies, who it had trained and financed and not by the government or people of Afghanistan (or Iraq for that matter). America’s war plans for both Afghanistan and Iraq had been drawn up by the Neocons long before 2001 in their project for the new American century. The concept was to control the oil of the Caspian Sea Basin, Iraq and to isolated both Russia and Iran and eventually control their oil resources as well. But as yet they are failed in totallity. It’s called BLOWBACK. Allied forces (and their enablers i.e. NEOCONS) attack Northern Areas of Pakistan and Pakistan interests only in cash flow, and they constantly are underestimating to the Taliban and are getting a can of woopass opened on them. They don’t like rather deadly hatred with Implementation of SHARIAH LAW at Northern Areas so that American troops are being hunted and body bags are transporting almost on daily basis. They should have thought of that before they decided to make war on Pakistan. According to the columinist of the US Vietnam was a political defeat, not a military one. The U.S. military did not suffer a single military defeat in that war. That’s a big lie in fact they had suffered unbearable loss because they/US lost the homefront. That is Why Russia had become super power during the War of Vietnam this time China will become the super power she is the most beneficial nation simultaneously Russia will try to take some extra advantage/bonus and will try to PAY BACK of Afghan Defeat. Exactly what the America haters of the world like many writers/analysts tried so desperately to recreate for Iraq (they failed), and now it’s what they are trying to do for the Taliban. Lets see whether they will/won’t succeed.
pRAY FOR mARRIOT VICTIMS
Duaon mai asar dai ya elahi Dai asr TU DAI
muradain puri kardai ya elahi puri tu kardai
giraftar e musibat hai ye muslaman ye musalman
inhai azad kurday ya elahi azad tu kurdai
Tasawar mai Mohammed MUstafa ki janib sai
Enayat hum PAI kur de ya elahi enayat tu kur dai
Wo jo ghafil hai apnay din o mazhab sai apnay mazhab sai
inhai bedar kur dai ya elahi bedar kur dai
Ata kur zor kamzoron ko zor de ya rab
bemaron ko shifa de ya elahi unhai shifa de dai
nae raha jis ka koe sahara koe sahara
saharA uska kur day ya elahi saharA kar dai
nidamat hai gunahon par khudaya maaf tu kur dai
nigahain num PUKARAIN ya elahi maaf tu kar dai
mere malik siwa tere mai darta hoon mai darta hoon
dar apna kar tu paida ya elahi dar tu paida kar
Tu hi MALIK RAZIQ TU HAI DATAA DENE WALA TU
TU PHER KYU MAANGO SAB SE ya ELAHI KYUN MAI MAANGO YE
Duaon mai asar dai ya elahi Dai asr TU DAI
muradain puri kardai ya elahi puri tu kardai
(uNKNOWN)
We do get information about threats, all the time, but they are sketchy,” he said. “Our agencies are fully competent and they will prove that.”….amazing,now thats called height of efficiency.keep up the good work guys.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/22/pakistan.terrorism
Another master piece from pakistan security guard.
Mr. Malik said investigators were still trying to conclude whether the attacker was killed by gunfire from the security guards, explosives detonating inside the truck cabin or whether he got out of the truck and then detonated an improvised device….as we say kei “kharboza knife par gera yaa knife karbozei par”.i hope you will agree that very soon he will catch the culprits,he is a genius.
My Dear fellow country men! if you listen to Talhat’s initial talk describing inofrmation about truck in few days and smoke out of truck and Rehman Malik acknowledging that and explaining it.. what comes into your mind?/? Are officials guided truck there to be exploded…thats what they have done.
Yei Kaisey Jang hei by Irfan Siddiqui
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2008-daily/22-09-2008/col1.htm
I want to punish those culprits.. one should smash their heads… they care about our lives, why should we be bothered that they are Muslims, aniway, if they were Muslims they wont do it at all… We should fight them back with full force and eliminate them from our Pak soil.
I want to punish those culprits.. one should smash their heads… they dont care about our lives and must not care about them, who so ever love Taliban and AlQaeda is an enemy of Pakistan, why should we be bothered that they are Muslims, they dont take us as Muslims, and if they were Muslims they wont do it at all… We should fight them back with full force and eliminate them from our Pak soil.
@diamondheart76
“I want to punish those culprits.. one should smash their heads… they dont care about our lives and must not care about them, who so ever love Taliban and AlQaeda is an enemy of Pakistan, why should we be bothered that they are Muslims, they dont take us as Muslims, and if they were Muslims they wont do it at all… We should fight them back with full force and eliminate them from our Pak soil.”
Spoken like a true fanatic
Tell me again what is the difference between you and them???
Like one of the comments on that page says, “Well Yasmin, with “Secular Muslim” friends like you who needs enemies.”
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: We Muslims who despair of terrorism
Following that load of cr@p by Ms. Brown, one might need something closer to the truth (Of course it doesn’t come from a “Secular Mslim”):
Robert Fisk’s World: Why does the US think it can win in Afghanistan?
The Taliban are better trained, and – sad to say – increasingly tolerated by the local civilian population.
…And Obama and McCain really think they’re going to win in Afghanistan – before, I suppose, rushing their soldiers back to Iraq when the Baghdad government collapses. What the British couldn’t do in the 19th century and what the Russians couldn’t do at the end of the 20th century, we’re going to achieve at the start of the 21 century, taking our terrible war into nuclear-armed Pakistan just for good measure. Fantasy again.
Joseph Conrad, who understood the powerlessness of powerful nations, would surely have made something of this. Yes, we have lost after we won in Afghanistan and now we will lose as we try to win again. Stuff happens.
Regarding the video of the attack released, it appears:
1. The guys carrying out the attack were not very smart.
They failed to see they won’t be able to drive through the barrier. Were they not even aware of it?
2. The guys who made the bomb were not experts.
The big bomb seemed to have no trigger. If it was designed to blow on impact, then they overlooked the truck not being able go past the barrier and ram into the building.
3. Had the security acted properly, the truck would not have blown up.
It appears when the bombers failed to go past the barrier, they blew themselves up. BUT even that explosion did not cause the big bomb to explode. At this time the attackers were certainly dead and a very small fire started in their cabin. Had the security acted properly, they could have easily put off the fire. But they did not. They let the fire grow till it engulfed the truck. Now they tried to put off the fire with a fire extinguisher but if you note most of that effort is wasted as the person with the extinguisher seems confused what to do. The truck continues to burn for over four minutes and it is that fire that causes the explosives to blow. Had they put out the fire just when it stared, the big explosion would NOT HAVE HAPPENED. The plan by bombers had FAILED and what made it a success was the inaction of the guys in charge of security…They were clueless about what steps to take in such a situation.
^ Which it makes it very clear that they were brainwashed taliban terrorists from FATA and not some super trained MOSSAD, CIA, ISI, RAW etc. agents like the pro-jihadist people want us to believe.
“Spoken like a true fanatic
Tell me again what is the difference between you and them???”
nota, the difference is that we are on the right side. If you can’t see this with your own eyes, it only means that you have a broken moral compass of right and wrong, good and evil, Allah’s way and shaitan’s way.
@nota
Good observations mate but cut the poor guys some slack.
Your ‘3rd umpire’ analysis is good on paper but I wouldn’t blame the security guys for any of it. They did what they could under the circumstances, they dispersed as soon as there was a small blast and returned a bit later to try and extinguish the fire. They did what they could, in my view.
May God Bless the departed souls and give the bereaved families strength to cope with the loss.
@hadi26
“but I wouldn’t blame the security guys for any of it.”
I am not blaming the security guards. I am blaming the “guys in charge of security” i.e. the guards should have been trained better. It appears these guards have been NO training on how to deal with different scenarios…
The blame falls directly directly on Rehman Malik.
“The blame falls directly directly on Rehman Malik.”
Are you saying that Rehman Malik is training coordinator for private security guards?
Fact Check 2.9:
* US and West supported Afhan war against soviets. They provided weapons and intelligence and Afhans recieved training from Pakistan Army and used Saudi money to fight Soviets… then they were Mujahidins and were being treated in US Military hospital Germany for war injuries… it went on for more than 10 years ….
* After victory , US dumped these Mujahidins and tried to divide them as they were afraid that they can turn against US interests….
*After staging 9/11, NeoCons started pushing for their New World Order…. blaming this they bombed Aghanistan and their old buddy “Mujahidins” who now had become “terrorist” for them …..they bombed innocents to stone ages and never worried about innocent people dying there …. infact they called them “collateral damage” ..remember there was no evidence that Osama was behind 9/11 in a country which had the best air power at time BUT for some reason slept for more than 120 minutes during 9/11 attack….
*Again to push the same agenda they bombed another country Iraq and murdered innocent people living there………. calling “collateral damage”…
*During this time a Pakistani dictator started supporting US New World Order to remain in power. He put all national interests behind and asked the same military to support US agenda even though this military had strong ties with these freedom fighters of yesterday and terrorists of today. Like any professional military, this military obeyed the orders of their chief and started bombing its own people. It allowed US to use their airports(Jacobabad more than 50,000 sorties in 07?) and also provided complete logistical support and in return received billions for their expected mercenary services…
*Again…during this time innocent Pakistani people died and were called “collateral damage”………… Remember these were traditionally the most brave and militarized people in the region. They have a thousands year history of freedom fighting.
*By now we started seeing a rise of same mujahidins/terrorists/millitants against the state of Pakistan. Before this they had never fought with Pakistan during the last thousands years…………but now they considered Pakistan as a US Ally and an ultimate enemy…. for them it was just another form of “Jihad”………..just like the last one from 70’s/80’s….
* Now the twist comes, the same mujaheddins AKA terrorists of today “brainwashed” these people who had lost every thing. They infected them with extremist philosophy which had less to do with Islam and more with the “manipulation of their sorrows and pains” which resulted in the barbaric acts of Pakistan Military and US AKA Allied forces….
* Now these people started believing in killing any one they can who they think were part of killing their loved ones…. this is a typical human psychology.. remember again these are the people who as they are born with a gun in their hand and had a thousand year history of fighting their invaders…
* Now when these people bomb places they also kill innocent people and think it as “collateral damage”.their philosophy has less to do with Islam and more to the manipulation of “traditional-ethnic psychology” boiled with unimaginable level of sorrow due to loss of innocent loved ones….
SO !
lets wrap it up. we have three “terrorists”
1 - US and Allied forces killing innocent people for their own agenda
2 - Pakistan Military killing innocent people while fighting the militants with whom they had and may still have strong relationships…..after all they will need them to fight India one day sooner or later…………
3 - The people who are brainwashing these innocent people and asking them to commit these barbaric acts…..and these people who are deep in sorrow and pain cz they have lost every loved one in this so called war……….
Now more than 95% people of Pakistan think that this is due to the Pakistan’s alliance with the US ……………. but some lunatics are not ready to accept this………….
the ground reality is that after every bomb in Pakistan……… if you talk to the locals u will see people that who have lost every thing will blame this to their corrupt Pakistani leaders and their alliance with US……………try going to these places after these blasts and talk to people on streets of Pakistan……. and remember Pakistan is not only Islamabad or DHA society ………….it is also Angoor Ada, Wazirastan, Swat, Malakand and Mehmand Agency………………….!!!
try convincing a 14 year old kid who had lost his whole family in operation and who is ready to kill you because u live in Islamabad from where the people came and bombed his family in the name of collateral damage…………….
get out of the dollars and pounds and euros mentality and visit the streets of these regions where innocents are being murdered…………and then tell them your AC kool philosophy and then see how they will react………
We had lost this war the day we stood with the US against our own people…….. now if u want to continue then its ur choice…………
BUT u will never succeed !!
Some people have been asking about Hashwani. Here are bits about him from a book by Shahid-ur-Rahman from the late ninties (of course it is out of print today). So keep in mind it does not include his adventures during the Musharraf era when he rose to the rank of “King-Maker”, one of the main behind the scene power-brokers…
(Since it is too long, I am posting it here
@zamir_k
“Are you saying that Rehman Malik is training coordinator for private security guards?”
No. All I am saying is that you are a dvmbfvck sh!t-for-brains.
@Riddle 792
“lets wrap it up. we have three “terrorists”
1 - US and Allied forces killing innocent people for their own agenda
2 - Pakistan Military killing innocent people while fighting the militants…………
3 - The people who are brainwashing these innocent people…”
Exactly the point raised by one of the MNA’s from the area on last night’s Kashif Abbasi’s show…
Hello,
May i know where to find a downloadable video of the truck that carried the bomb? Need to download it so that it can be viewed anytime without requiring an internet connection.
Thank you
@nota
agreed - security guards should have been better trained.
But I stick to my argument of not blaming either the security guards or those responsible for their training.
Such incidents can only be averted by
employing other means;namely Effective Intelligence gathering machinery and improved co-ordination between our law enforcement agencies.
For instance ”
Truck with 500kg of explosives hijacked
Tuesday, September 09, 2008
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17118
”
In any half-decent society this would have been probaby the Biggest news of the century and people would have been on the look out to ensure truck and its contents are recovered before any damage is done. Did any of us pay any heed to this story? What was done to recover this truck, has anyone come forward with any explanation? This probably was linked in some way to the blast.
“No. All I am saying is that you are a dvmbfvck sh!t-for-brains. :)”
Basically, you have no argument and have to resort to such language. Got it, thanks for making my point.
@Baby_Huey
“May i know where to find a downloadable video of the truck that carried the bomb? Need to download it so that it can be viewed anytime without requiring an internet connection.”
1. Go to http://keepvid.com/
2. In URL, copy and paste this address:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZnZvMx9PA
3. Click “Download”
You might have to change the saved files extension to “.flv”. Also you would need a flv player to view it. Many freewares are available “VLC Media Player”
I would like to share an email that I have received about helping the families of the security guards killed at the Marriott.
Please see below and help if you can
All the guards on the gate died,” said hotel owner Sadruddin Hashwani.
Dear Friends,
In my three years serving the people of Pakistan after the earthquake, I never stayed at the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. It was too expensive for my budget. However, I’ve visited there so many times over the years for meetings with partners, government officials, presentations to groups like the Islamabad Rotary Club and to attend events such as the premiere of “When The Mountains Moved,” a documentary film that CDRS was featured in.
My visits were frequent enough that I became known to many of the guards at the main gate of the hotel, who always greeted me warmly. As they checked our vehicle or laptop bags, we would joke around and chat about simple but treasured things in life- like how eachother’s families were doing and how the earthquake relief efforts were going in the remote areas. They were real people, just like the great majority of the 170 million everday Pakistanis that America must never forget about who just wish to live in peace and have suffered so much yet have never once thought of giving over their hearts and souls to extremism and violence. Many of these guards became friends, and I always looked forward to seeing them whenever I visited the Marriott. Now, certainly many of them are gone. They were not only my friends, they were Muslims, they were Fathers, Husbands, Brothers and Sons, they were human beings like you and me, and now their lives have been callously extinguished by evil during this Holy Month of Ramadan. They are HEROES- they braved the front lines at one of Pakistan’s most vulnerable targets for terrorist activity. Please pray for all the victims of this horrific crime and help me and CDRS help the guards families and children in their time of devastation and loss.
Here’s How To Help The Familes Of The Fallen Marriott Guards
Make checks out to Global Giving (with “CDRS/Marriott Guards Fund” in the check’s memo space) and send to:
The GlobalGiving Foundation
1816 12th Street NW, Washington, DC 20009
(The GlobalGiving Foundation is a U.S. 501(c)3 organization, EIN: 30-0108263)
Or, you can make an online donation at http://www.globalgiving.com/1700, then send an email notifying me of your online donation so that I can personally ensure that your donation is handed directly to the families of guards killed or injured in today’s shameful attack on humanity.
May God Bless You and Yours,
Todd Shea
Executive Director
Comprehensive Disaster Response Services (CDRS)
THE MARRIOTT HOTEL BOMBING – A TERRORIST ATTACK ALRIGHT, BUT WHO EXACTLY WERE THE TERRORISTS?
Take a step back, have a look at the bigger picture and cast aside any preconceived subjective ideas that the western mainstream media propaganda machine may have instilled in you. After an objective and unbiased analysis of the events that preceded the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan, there emerges a picture that is starkly different from what the people of the west have been told by their mainstream media….
FLASHBACK (FEB 17, 2008):
Fight against militants is “our war”, not just America’s war - Zardari
LAHORE: The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), if it comes into power, must persuade the people that the fight against militants is “our war”, not just America’s war, party Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari said on Saturday.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Zardari urged Washington to do more to promote democracy in Pakistan.
Need I say more?
@nota
1. Go to http://keepvid.com/
2. In URL, copy and paste this address:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZnZvMx9PA
3. Click “Download”
You might have to change the saved files extension to “.flv”. Also you would need a flv player to view it. Many freewares are
available “VLC Media Player”
Thank you very much. I didn’t know about this site until now. Thank you, you are very kind.
Regards
“The Destabilization of Pakistan”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7705
This is dated 30th December, 2007. Quite an eye-opener.
But the sad part is, we as a nation, seem to be beyond the stage where things such as this shock us. We just don’t care, it is a well thought out plan that is being executed to spread hopelessness and declare ours a failed state.
r gov wz involved in all this thts why they r jst havin their normal routines…
they dont even have 1 cm sympathy for the families who r affeted by this blast….
and Farhat ulah babar says that Thank God VIP’s are safe….
he doesn’t even care for the ppl who died and the families shattered behind them…
@Sana
Do we care? Apparently people started gathering at the scene of the blast to take pictures and made it into a family outing with no regard for the rescue operation and causing traffic congestion.
As for the government being involved in this, this definitely was an attempt to gather public support for turning america’s pointess war into Pakistan’s war. A futile attempt which will, no doubt, result in more hatred and anger towards the Americans.
What about thr RAW factor (Delhi)
What about CIA and boxes of steel in rooms just before the explosion.
There is a lot of info that is withheld just like BB’s death
I am not convined that it was TTP alone
Boxes of steel is another false story propagated by jihadist supporters even after video evidence of the cause of the blast is available.
How to avoid future bomb blasts and terrorist attacks in Pakistan?
My suggestions:
1.Immediately secure borders. Start constructing fence on the border along with Afghanistan and India. And if that’s not possible immediately, then strict border petrol.
2. Thorough search for weapons in sensitive areas in Pakistan.
3. Formation of education commission and its branches all over the backward areas. It should include Islam’s true picture, science and technology, computer, and sociology etc.
4. Industrialization in rural backward areas to bring financial stability.
5. Implementation of law and justice.
You are encouraged to add comments.
Thanks
Also, we should have private institutions to train our police and law enforcement agencies. Only those who are trained should be recruited. The current system of recruitment first and training later didn’t work for us.
@ c. hussain….so you are saying if people are getting killed in Bajur or fata…it is ok for them to kill innocent people in Lahore, Islamabad…..what a an argument….go get a life…..crazy people like you are destroying the country….
salam
hmmmmmmm i think saare qaoom k liey bhoot barehaa sadmaa hey…mil kar Allah k hazoor duaa karni chahey …k Allah hmaarey watan ko slaamat rakhey ..
ameenn
@ nota
Download new realplayer u can download several videos at the same time. once you download real player you will see ‘download’ option at the top of videos.
http://uk.real.com/player/more
The fire services did not have the necessary equipment to extinguish the fire.
What a bunch of jokers!