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    zindagi said:

    kutti chooron k sath mili hue hai.
    yes of course it is quite clear.
    because acions speaks louder than words

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    zindagi said:

    har shakh pee ulu betha hai anjame gulistan kia hoga
    AlLLAH KHAIR KAREY

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    democrate said:

    what all the fuss about is,just 20 marks.nation is being made fool.

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    Atif said:

    @democrate,

    wow man. you are perfectly right, its not corruption, its not unjust, its nothing specially if its chief justice of pakistan who is doing it, he has a lot more powers. Let him do the best with his powers and then we can cry over the spilt milk, why bother before that for Just 20 marks, what the f..k

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    shahid sadiq said:

    Look at the Doger, the way he is smiling shame on him

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    zakir vohra said:

    These things will continue in Pakistan until Political people come from Sardar, Wadera, Choudhary comes in politics.

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    Darajee said:

    What you expect from Ali Baba and 40 + thiefs,engaged in fleecing pakistan. CDA is bankrupt all projects of Islamabad improvement in doldrums.where have the billions rupees funds vanished after Lashari’s removal. who will take suo moto notice of all over LOOT .

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    Asjad said:

    AOA.
    it is a disgrace to the very concept of law and justice. moreover the crime has been committed by the person who is the head of the institution responsible for providing justice to the people of this nation.
    it is not the matter of 20 marks, it is the matter of whether our instituitions can provide justice to our people or not.i think it is a bigger issue than indiam massing its forces on our borders.no nation can be defeated if there is justice in their society.at the hight of second world war when UK wasnt doing very well,someone asked Churchill that what is the fate of our country and he asked him that how is our justice system working,if it is providing justice we cant be defeated .just imagine that if we find out now that our chief of army staff actually works for india,how safe woulde we feel?? i think it is pretty much the same thing. i dont expect any justice and integrity from this judiciary and government.let me quote Hazrat Ali razitallahunha.”societies can survive on infedility but not on injustice”.
    just because we have seen corrupt and characterless judiciary,politicians,civial and military beauracracy we as individuals also lower our moral values.
    God help pakistan and our nation

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    alufever said:

    I think the PPP governament is not realizing
    that time has changed, they can’t protect and can’t close the files as they use to do in their last two Govts. This is best time for Nawaz Sharif to put pressure on this corrupt President and his aides. Nawaz Don’t MISS THIS CHANCE Other wise you will be soon in Saudia again.

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    alufever said:

    We are proud of Ansar Abbasi and the Geo Group that they are boldly facing this corrupt Govt. Geo group its now your responsibility to protect Ansar Abbasi from these BIG Magarmushs. I personally recommend that he should go out of country till this matter settled. Mr. Nazir Naji has not given his statement or opinion on Dogar Case it is not unusual…….

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    SnrCtzn said:

    It quite clearly shows, that one crises upon another crises is being PURPOSELY CREATED by the Zardari govt(& also clearly on the behest of their Yankee masters)in order to STIR so much of CHAOS, CONFUSON & DISORDER, so that sooner or later, the army gets a ’cause’or a ‘motive’to INTERVENE, in order to ‘militarily take-over’ the reigns of the govt in a ‘peaceful manner’ & THEN, to finally ‘DECLARE A MARTIAL LAW.’

    In this manner, ‘three main purposes’ wiil be achieved/served,as follows:-

    1. The point of arguement/assertion will be ‘PROVED AS CORRECT’& ‘will stay as ‘STRONG’ that the ‘civilians’ are nothing but always ‘bloody civilians’ & are thus ‘dim-wits’ & ‘nit-wits’ as usual, & thus also ‘UNFIT to GOVERN’ which is a task, more better suited to the ‘uniformed-lot’ & who are thus ‘MORE CAPABLE & COMPETENT’ to rule a 3rd WORLD COUNTRY, than ‘these bloody civilians.’

    2. Thus,the arguement of previous take-over of the civilian govt by SOB Mush, will be REINFORCED AS ‘CORRECT.’

    3. With the new army take-over, the ONE-MAN RULE OF A DICTATOR will be ‘restored,’ & thus the bastards, mainly, the Yankees & the Brits, will,thus, be once again in a strong postion to ‘COMMAND’ THIS ONE DICTATOR, than an assortment of ‘bloody civilians.’

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    rebhos said:

    A Bunch of Criminals ruling the country.

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    Taimoor Ashraf said:

    Brother’s let’s forget Doggar and PPP at the moment all knows they are MF, corrupt, CIA sponsored, dacoits and criminals with whom we can dealt after Hindustan War.

    Primiary objective should be Hindustan and Shinning India and our message should be we are ready to kick your ass. BRING IT ON YOU MF’s …. !!!

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    fajehangiri said:

    Democracy is the Best Revenge:-)..Enjoy it folks…

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    fracture_gang said:

    ZPP and associates, building their disgraced future by depriving the people of Pakistan from their basic rights. I hope next election will decide our fate and will make it crystal clear what do we want.

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    Samad Khurram said:

    Ibtida-e-Ishq hai tu rota hai kya ?
    Beta agay agay daikh hota hai kya !

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    Waqas Aftab said:

    kutti kamini bhi choor hai……..

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    mm76 said:

    What a shame full change..

    as mr (110%) said ..that

    we will take revenge of kufar agent (benezir) ..by changing the system…….

    =======
    and what a change in the system.

    airport name is chagned.?
    Road name is changed to benezir…
    new schemes are launchged with benezir name.
    new towns are gong to be launched..with benezir name (kufar agent).
    new cricket and hocky will be played with her name…..

    WOW WOW what a change……….

    oh muslims ummah of pakistan and all over the world…

    lets bring the real change……

    This sytem (so called democracy) ..giving rights to these people to protect rich people,

    to bring real change lets call for Islamic sytem who rule only by god will

    that is Khilafah..

    forget this crupt system..

    thanks

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    seekingtruth said:

    Dogar is the top guy in Pakistan judiciary. If he cant do justice in getting 20 marks for his daughter , how can you expect justice for for other pakistanis in bigger isssues.
    Its a slap in the face of whole nation.
    I am sure Dogar will continue to work alongwith this corrupt ZPP.

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    pak.nukes said:

    Fehmida Mirza urf Khusra Mirza is zardari’s keep for long that is why Sherry and she hate each other. Dogs and donkeys and hijras =PZP government. Is mardana Raja listening?

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    fajehangiri said:

    @mn76

    The only “muslim” sect to have an operational system of Khilafat has long been declared “Kafirs” and “Non-Muslims” by the successive assemblies and reluers of this country…..

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    MEHAR said:

    Tujh se naraz nahi zindgi hairan houn mein?

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    jazoo said:

    Fahmida Mirza is the daughter of a Sind High Court Judge who excused himself from the bench, challenging the death sentence of ZAB.
    As a result Bench was dissolved & Bhutto lost his last chance on the basis of Islamic Jurisprudence.
    Bench was waiting for a verdict of Imam Ali(AS)in which he acquit the culprit or cancel his death sentence because he was accused of indirectly involved in a murder.
    The day bench was about to receive this verdict this opportunist Judge did not show up or excused himself from the bench.
    This all happened, as per article of Daily Jang, just few days before the actual hanging of ZAB.

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    Adnan Arshad Mansoori said:

    What do you expect with PPP none other these sort of STEPs!!!???

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    Darajee said:

    Mian Nawaz Sharif is caught in the fantasy of Big brothership, PPP leadership is making all parties fool grabbing all important positions nothing will happen there seems to be no democracy but civilian dictatorship one man rule,army first was engaged in FATA now our eastern borders have been declared sparking,financial situation leading towards bankruptcy, the public is engaged in finding bread for dinner and getting killed due inflation. May God help us. Karachi is burning but who cares.

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    jabeen said:

    My Dear Fellows
    Allegations against Iftikhar Chaudhry and his son were more serious then Jus Dogar.

    Ex CJP didn’t constitutes Supreme Judicail council nor resign so why we are expecting the same from Dogar ?
    Here few charges against Ex CJP

    Arsalan Iftikhar

    1. Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar is one of the sons of the learned judge. As narrated in paragraphs 2 to 25, the learned judge committed misconduct by employing his position to gain undue advantage for Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar. To secure this end he committed and was responsible for the commission of a number of unlawful acts. That all the acts narrated in paragraphs 2 to 25 were committed as a result of his influence and on account of the demands made by him and the pressure exerted by him. He unlawfully used his position as a judge and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan influence, harass and intimidate all concerned and compelled them to act in an unlawful manner. Such conduct is unbecoming a judge and is particularly reprehensible in the case of the Chief Justice of Pakistan.

    2. Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar sought admission to Bolan Medical College in the year 1996. Having secured 639 marks with an overall “C” grade in his Intermediate Examinations he could not be admitted on merit. The threshold being 750 marks. The Chief Minister of Balochistan was approached who nominated him, “for admission in 1st year MBBS class in Bolan Medical College, Quetta, against leftover foreign vacant seats/special seats”.

    3. On 22 June 2005 Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar was appointed as Medical Officer/Demonstrator in the Institute of Public Health, Quetta.

    4. On 18 July 2005, a few days after Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar was so appointed, the Chief Minister of Balochistan passed the following order:

    “Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar, Medical Officer, presently posted as Demonstrator, Institute of Public Health Quetta be transferred and posted as Section Officer (Technical) in Health department with immediate effect in the interest of public service. Please issue notification.” [Emphasis supplied]

    The Chief Secretary, Balochistan, to whom these orders were addressed, directed these to the Health Department on that very day (18 July 2005).

    5. The Health Department on 10 August 2005 referred the case to the Services and General Administration Department (”S&GAD”) as the authority “for posting/transfer of Secretariat staff is S&GAD Department.

    6. On 11 August 2005, in a Summary for the Chief Minister, the S&GAD pointed out that “no … post in Technical quota is available against which Dr. Arsalan could be considered for posting as Section Officer”. It was, however, pointed out that 07 posts of Section Officers against the “quota of initial recruitment are vacant”, the case for placing the requisition of these posts with the Balochistan Public Service Commission was being processed separately. It was “proposed that Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar be considered for posting as Section Officer against one of the vacant post as a temporary arrangement”.

    7. On 15 August 2005 a notification was issued to the effect that Dr Arsalan Iftikhar Demonstrator in Institute of Public Health, Quetta, was “transferred and posted as Section Officer (Dev) in Health Department, against existing vacancy with immediate effect until further orders.”

    [Emphasis supplied]. It may be stated that as was pointed out in the Summary to the Chief Minister, there was no existing vacancy. The 07 vacancies had to be filled by initial recruitment through the Balochistan Public Service Commission. What was proposed was that at best Dr Arsalan Iftikhar be temporarily accommodated against one of these vacancies, till it was filled by a suitable candidate by the Balochistan Public Service Commission.

    8. Nine days before the notification of 15 August 2005 was issued, the Ministry of Interior, Government of Pakistan, addressed a letter on 6 August 2005 to the Chief Secretary, Government of Balochistan:

    The services of Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar, BS-17 officer of the Health Department, Government of Balochistan are required to be utilized in FIA in public interest [Emphasis supplied]

    2. It would be highly appreciated if you could place the service of Dr Arsalan Iftikhar at the disposal of the Ministry of Interior for posting in FIA.

    On 13 August 2005, two days prior to the notification of 15 August 2005, the S&GAD, Government of Balochistan conveyed to the Ministry of Interior, Government of Pakistan, its “no objection for placing the services of Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar (Health/B-17) at the disposal of Ministry of Interior for posting in FIA. While this letter was either in the mail or had not reached the “right” hands, the Ministry of Interior sent a reminder on 16 August 2005.

    9. On 5 September 2005 a notification was issued by the Ministry of Interior, Government of Pakistan. Dr Arsalan Iftikhar was transferred and his services were placed at the disposal of FIA for posting as Assistant Director (BS-17) in the FIA, on deputation for a period of three years, in his own pay and scale, with immediate effect and until further order.

    10. On 9 September 2005, the Secretary S&GAD brought the matter to the attention of the Chief Secretary, Balochistan. On 13 September 2005 the Chief Secretary Balochistan on behalf of S&GAD issued a notification pursuant to the notification of the Government of Pakistan. On 30 September 2005 Dr Arsalan Iftikhar received charge of the office of Assistant Director, FIA at Islamabad. This was notified on 24 October 2005.

    11. Within four months of his appointment as Medical Officer/Demonstrator in the Institute of Public Health, Quetta, Dr Arsalan a BS-17 officer, who had not even completed the mandatory period of his probation, was transferred and posted first as a Section Officer in the Government of Balochistan against a non-existent vacancy and then sent on deputation as Assistant Director, FIA, to the Ministry of Interior, Government of Pakistan, for a period of three years; all in the public interest. And this for a person who had appeared thrice in the CSS competitive examinations and failed each time.

    12. Under Rule 8 of the Health Department, Government of Balochistan, Service Rules 1984, a person appointed to the service against a substantive vacancy remains on probation for a period of two years if appointed by initial recruitment. Dr Arsalan, having been so appointed, on 22 June 2005, his period of probation would have been completed on 21 June 2007.

    13. On 22 November 2005 the S&GAD, Government of Balochistan moved a summary to the Chief Minister, Balochistan proposing confirmation in services of Dr Arsalan Iftikhar “with immediate effect against the substantive post of Medical Officer in the Provincial Health Department by relaxing Rule 8 of the Balochistan Health Department (Basic Pay Scale 16 and above) Service Rules 1984 for completion of probation period of 2 years.” On 5 December 2005 the S&GAD, Government of Balochistan issued a notification whereby the services of Dr Arsalan Iftikhar were confirmed.

    14. On 22 March 2006 in continuation of its notification of 5 September 2005, the Ministry of Interior issued yet another notification, Barely within 5 months of having assumed the charge of Assistant Director FIA in BS-17:

    Dr Arslan Iftikhar (BS-17) Health Department, Government of Balochistan Quetta is transferred and his services are placed at the disposal of Director General Federal Investigation Agency for posting as Deputy Director (BS-18) in FIA on deputation basis for a period of three years….(Emphasise supplied)

    On 7 April 2006 it was notified that he had assumed charge of the office of Dy Director (BS-18) FIA on 22 March 2006. On 9 May 2006 by a letter issued by the Office of the Director General Federal Investigation Agency it was clarified as follow:

    Now he has been upgraded as Deputy Director in BPS-18 with retrospective effect, i.e. from the date of initial joining as per notification dated 22-03-2006.

    On 9 May 2006 the Ministry of Interior issued yet another notification in partial modification of its notification of 22 March 2006. It was stated:

    Dr Arslan Iftikhar has assumed the charge of the post of Deputy Director /BS-18, FIA on 3rd September 2005 with retrospective effect.

    15. This done, a campaign was launched to induct Dr Arsalan Ifitkhar in the Police Service of Pakistan. As BS-17 officer Dr. Arslan Ifitkhar could have joined the Police Service only through the competitive services examination conducted by the Federal Public services commission but being in BS-18 made induction possible and the FPSC route could be avoided. As a first step he was to be sent to the Police Academy for training with PSP officers all of whom had been selected by the Federal Public Services Commission. The training was exclusive to PSP officers.

    16. On 19 May 2006, the Ministry of Interior addressed a letter to Commandant, National Police Academy, Islamabad, stating that Dr. Arshaln Iftikhar, Deputy Director, FIA, was attached with the National Police Academy for training with CTP batch. The Commandant was requested to attach the said officer for field training along with under training ASPs to cover catch aspect of the required training.

    17. On 24 May 2006, the Ministry of Interior again issued a letter to the Commandant, National Police Academy, Islamabad, stating that after the completion of the specialized training programme at the National Police Academy, the services of Dr Arslan Iftikhar be placed at the disposal of Punjab Police for further posting at Lahore for his District Attachment Training.

    18. Pursuant to the letter of 24 May 2006, the National Police Academy, Islamabad, on 27 June 2006 relieved Dr Arslan Ifitkhar, “for completion of remaining training programme of 32nd CTP, and directed to report to Elite Police Training School, Bedian Lahore on 02-07-2006 doing six weeks Orientation Course.” After completion of the course he was to “report to CPO, Punjab, Lahore for Phase III part of training which is six months Field Attachment”.

    19. In the meantime, the Prime Minister’s Secretariat was approached for the permanent induction of Dr Arsalan Iftikhar in the Police Service of Pakistan in BS-18. On 16 May 2006 the Prime Minister’s Secretariat sought the views of the Establishment Division in that regard.

    20. The UO Note of the Prime Minister’s Secretariat was also circulated to FIA. On 3 June 2006 the Office of the Director General, FIA, stated that, “neither FIA requisitioned his services, nor was involved at any stage for his deputation or district attachment etc.” FIA, therefore, expressed its inability to offer any views/recommendations on the UO Note.

    21. On 23 May 2006 the Establishment Division noted that as per the PSP (Composition, Cadre and Seniority) Rules, 1985, “the request of the officer for induction in PSP in BS-18 is not feasible.” In a separate note the Establishment Division observed that Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar could not be inducted in the Police Service of Pakistan without an amendment in the PSP (Composition, Cadre and Seniority) Rules, 1985. Such an amendment could only be made with the approval of the President.

    22. On 31 May 2006 the Secretary, Establishment, was called by the learned judge for a meeting at his residence. The meeting took place at 2100 hours. The observations of the Establishment Division were also communicated to him. The learned judge appreciated the aforementioned reservations but the meeting ended with the learned judge insisting on:

    (a) the induction of Dr Arslan Iftikhar in FIA preferably in BS-18;

    b) his subsequent deputation to the Punjab government without their specifically mentioning the post against which he will be posted; and

    c) simultaneous initiation of a proposal to amend the rules to provide for induction of FIA officers in the Police Service of

    Pakistan, and sought his son’s permanent induction in (BS-18) in the Police Service of Pakistan.

    The Secretary, Establishment, communicated these demands to the Principal Secretary to the prime Minister, around midnight, the same evening. Soon thereafter the Secretary Establishment received a call from the learned judge saying that he had found a number of precedents of induction into various groups. On 1 June 2006 the papers were received from the learned judge. Later, the learned judge called the Secretary Establishment on the Green Line to enquire if the papers sent by him had been examined. The Secretary Establishment stated that it would take some time. The learned judge stated that orders of the Prime Minister be obtained by referring to these precedents. He was told that a written reference would be made to the Prime Minister’s Secretariat giving the precedents as well as the legal position. The learned judge responded that a written reference would “jeopardize the case and that this was part of a package and reference to the rules need not be made.”

    23. The learned judge continued to “insist” that all concerned make the necessary changes and warned of “consequences” if his desires were not met. Due to the relentless pressure and the campaign of intimidation and harassment launched by him, ultimately a summary was prepared and submitted by the Establishment Secretary on 23 June 2006 to the Prime Minister for addition of a new “Rule 7-C” in the Police Service of Pakistan (Composition, Cadre and Seniority) Rules, 1985. The amendment was tailor made for Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar.

    24. Since then the learned judge has almost on a daily basis exerted all kinds of pressure on the Prime Minister’s Secretariat to secure the approval of the summary aforementioned and for the consequent induction of Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar as an officer in the Police Service of Pakistan as a BS-18 officer.

    25. He also used his influence and authority to have Dr. Arsalan Iftikhar nominated to attend the 2nd Training Course in Combating International Terrorism and Organized Crime from 30 October 2006 to 3 November 2006 in Istanbul. He was the only non-PSP officer and the only under training person to attend this course.

    26. The learned judge is entitled to one 1600 CC car, but he has contrary to the norms and rules on the subject secured the use of the following cars for himself at Islamabad:

    i) Mercedes Bens 3000cc

    ii) IDJ-166 Toyota Corona Model 1993 – 1300cc

    iii) ODF 6828 Toyota Corona Model 1993 – 2000cc

    iv) CIA-9 Toyota Corolla Model 2000 – 1300cc

    v) GP-8695 Toyota Corolla Model 2002 – 1300cc

    vi) IDM-7976 Toyota Corolla Model 2003 – 1300cc

    vii) IDM-7977 Toyota Corolla Model 2003

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    c hussain said:

    fajehagiri

    it was declared non muslim because he claimed that those who does not believe him that he is prophet of God are kafirs. If you have doubt read his books – its clearly written there that those people who does not believe in his prophethood – meaning Mirza G A Q – are kafirs and their nikahs would be haram – so my dear it was he who started teh business of declaring other muslims non muslims.

    Its better not for you to stir the hornest nest otherwise another storm would blow

    He who declared himself prophet did not know Holy Quran by heart, never went on Hajj to Mecca and instead of uniting muslims he declared a new religion and also declared Jihad as invalid. No wonder I havent ever heard a single statement from Qadiani leaders in last eight years of the atrocities being committed by Muslims all over the world because they know that they are being funded and looked after by the British Goverment and Western governments – they could not even speak against Salman Rushidi who wrote things against Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and then have the audicity of claiming that they are muslims.

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    c hussain said:

    Nawaz Sharif is making the biggest mistake of his life of letting PPP get away with anything – there is not a single statement from PMLN against Dogar’s action.

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    short life endless plans said:

    @admin
    @any lawyer from lawyers movement

    there should be a nation wide campaign asking Dangar to resign and it should start from PKpolitics. The rest of the country should mount a poster campaign against him.

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    short life endless plans said:

    @ c hussain

    here is NS’s response that your looking for.

    http://www.nawaiwaqt.com.pk/urdu/daily/dec-2008/02/index1.php#16

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    SnrCtzn said:

    On the aftermath of the terrorist attack in Mumbai, readers may have read today’s statement of SOB Mush, that he was right in ’striking ‘ against militants /terrorists during his ‘illegal’ rule.

    In other words, is’nt he justifying his military rule in a broader context?

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    Hameed Chaudhry said:

    Assalam-o-Alaikum,

    In my opinion, Ansar Abbasi have done great job to compile the story after covering all aspects of investigation in illegal CJSC Hamid Dogar daughter’s case. Today I pleased to see another detailed coverage with dates of events in Daily News by Ansar Abbasi leaving no option behind for Hamid Dogar to say a single word against the cover story flash in press after strong blockage effort were made by few individuals which was refused to accept by Jang and News management also running Geo.

    An another improvement, Prime Minister of Pakistan Syed yousaf Raza Gillani sack his Press Secretary,for misusing and get involve in an illegal efforts along with Justice Hamid Dogar to get increase the numbers of Farah Hamid Dogar daughter of CJ.

    Millions of Pakistani people are waiting for the result of Sher Ali’s effort who is Chairman Parliamany Committee for Education who was illegally blocked yesterday by Speaker National Assembly Dr.Fehmida Mirza to secure CJSC Hamid Dogar and his further reputation he already lost in public after news coverages and tv talk shows.

    It is a shamefull for a Hamid Dogar to involve himself being a CJSC in this case shows how disgraceful and corrupt person he is and how low he could go for his interest.

    I suggest as a ordinary Pakistani to Asif Ali Zardari that he should remove Hamid Dogar from his official capacity with immediate effect and send his case to Superior Judicial Council.

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    adeelshahid said:

    these bastards, mklbcsgka

    this is the last time any one should fucking think about voting them and if u accuse of urself of fucked up bb shaheed party innocence to give vote then fucking shot ur self in the head.

    we want judicial peacful pakistan and the only bastards blocking it are the sharifs and zardari’s

    let Imran’s PTI and other opposition who boycotted come in the next election.

    InsAllah Imran will get around 50+ seats from lahore next elections as PTI had a huge campaign for membership and reported people who have joined are more than 150,000+ and u can join 2 because we have to make a move even a little drop, a single membership a vote is important to kick these bastards and their future sons and daugthers out.

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    makhalil said:

    its absolutely pathetic the ‘jang group’ is behind the media trial of justice Doger.

    they didn’t the same when Ch Iftihkahr took oath under PCO.

    They didn’t do the same when there was case against Justice Iftikhar Ch’s SON.

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    Shaz said:

    No lafafa journalist is writing on this issue. Read Athar abbas, Nazir Naji, Hassan Nisar etc. they are always talking about other things but none of them touched on this issue.

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    makhalil said:

    @ Shaz

    coz there are hundreds of other students as well who got remarking and got their number increased.

    so why only to pick one.

    its the same media like indian media { to make a sellable story}

    thats the sane Journalists dont think it has any importance.

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    Paf123 said:

    Reminds me of induction of IMC’s son’s induction in Police Service in Pakistan…by getting him training with Police Officers and appointing him as ASP training in Lahore……

    He is just following his predecessors…shame on all who abuse their power….

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    al_arslan said:

    Just like the people of confidence of the assemblies were showing off the vote ballots in putting in the box with the name of Zardari, these might pass a resolution that the daughter of this corrupt official(ashamed judge) now has been declared ‘A’ grade degree holder by the government. This woman seemed calm but seems succumbed to jialahood.

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    aahmad said:

    Zardari Dakku on CNN live with Larry King tonight

    http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/index.html

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    short life endless plans said:

    lawyers should mount a poster campaign against Dogar asking him to resign

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    bunnykhan said:

    We must condem this act of curruption, SHAME FOR HIS DUAGHTER, I THINK WE MUST DEFAME HIS DUAGHTER IN THE INTITUTE WHERE SHE DESIRED TO STUDY.
    Armoghan KHAN

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    KhalidAli said:

    I want to point out a statement that was made in the long post by user “Jabeen”
    In the bullet numbered 11, the last line reads the following
    “And this for a person who had appeared thrice in the CSS competitive examinations and failed each time.”

    Now first of all I want to say that INJUSTICE is our MAIN problem, every other issue is stemmed from this menace. Second, I am not defending Ex CJP, however the my observation, as it is being portrayed in the said post above, is that how come such a powerfull person who can actually force the PM house to do what he wants, can not influence Civil Service people to hire his son?? This does not make any sense at all

    :-)

    Just something to think about

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    Asjad said:

    @makhalil.AOA
    jang group is doing “media trial” of this CJ because after his most recent injustice and corruption he hasnt been called to the army house and not been threatened in the presence of four generals. Dogar hasnt been made “ineffective” and put under house arrest for this.if there was any truth in those allegations made against ch.iftikhar why did musharaf called him in army house and his “Alleged” corruption was discussed infront of DG ISI and MI,Give me a break.he should have just put the case against the CJ and let the law take its course.the pressure would have been on ch.iftikhar. this is also for the user”jabeen” who i think copied whole petition of malik quyyum:):):).
    second thing that you found out that “hundreds of student got their number increased”. for your information there is no way the papers can be”RE-ASSESSED”it is 200 percent illegal.the only thing allowed is “RE-COUNTING” making sure that the total number is correct.THAT IS ALL.
    It is common sense that if you allow Re-assessment then will you find any student in the country who will say that although he is not on merit but assessment of the papers was right??? there will never be a final result for any exam. do you seriously believe that “hundreds” of student got their papers reassessed by other teachers and they came up with the judgment that their papers were wrongly assessed and gave them higher numbers PLEASE!!!!!!.if this is true then i would suggest that thousands of sutdents who got C grade in exam like this CJs daughter then they should apply for re-assessnent immediately.
    Wassallam.

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    Shaz said:

    @makhalil

    I wonder how you are still unaware about the basis of this issue!
    Doger’s daughter is the only one who got the re-assessment of marks whereas the marks of rest of them were re-counted. Is it ok now?

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    fanclub said:

    ya ALLAH zardari aur uskay sab toolay ko benazir kay pehlo mein jagah day

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    mfdarvesh said:

    It is the real face of our judiciary and so fool Pakistani hopes justice from this judiciary, who himself is unable to create some good examples. Imagine how easy it is, nothing wrong, all right, every thing is under control. And Nation, who cares about it.

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    fanclub said:

    2 do piasay kitni hawas bhari nazron say dekh rahay hain hamari baychari speaker ko,jo koi jaisay istamaal karay ,zara bhi nahi bolti………masoom Goongi speaker

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    fajehangiri said:

    c hussain

    http://www.alislam.org

    is the web_address where you can find latest Press Releases about all that is being said by leaders of Jamaat Ahmadiyya and the reason that you have not read any statements from their leaders is simple-no news paper in Pakistan has the courage to publish their statements.If you want to read their views on Danish Cartoons,difference between terrorism and Jihad,plight of Muslims around the world than there are scores of sources…

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    NASIR said:

    @jabeen what a wasting of time,comparing doger with cj ic?

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    Shaz said:

    Ladies and Gentleman!

    The Govt. has successfully been able to deal the issue of Dogar by intentionally moving to the Islamabad High court. The case has been adjourned till mid of January. It is planned that the case will not be decided before April next year. Remember April is the month when Dogar has to leave the SC due to his retirement. Govt. will give him an honorable retirement as a CJ. After that they will simply withdraw the marks of the daughter of Dogar in order to close this chapter. During the hearing of the case the court has banned the media and other authorities for any further comments. No group of the NA or senate can hear this case during because matter is in this court.

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    jazoo said:

    @jabeen

    You find lot of similarity between CJ Iftekhar’s son & daughter of Gobar.
    Then why not Gobar goes through the same process of reference against him to face full court or judicial council trial.
    Theres a moral responsibility on Gobar to absolve himself of any wrongdoing.
    Hopefully you do not feel proud of Gobar for saying its matter of only 20 marks not 200 or 300.

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    nota said:

    @shaz
    “The Govt. has successfully been able to deal the issue of Dogar by intentionally moving to the Islamabad High court.”

    The very purpose of creating the “Islamabad High court” is to faciliate all kinds of corruption. Another exampleI can give you is the Bank of Punjab fraud. Billons stolen; perpetrators caught or on the run; case gets pulled to IHC (thanks to Dogar); all accused go free but NAB officials get put in jail :)

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    jazoo said:

    @nota

    I think issuing notices to wife & daughter of Dogar is a serious matter.

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    Shaz said:

    @jazoo

    On what basis court would have skipped them? The problem is not that court issued notice to whom or not, the issue is that a public matter of great interest has been adjourned for around one and half month inspite every aspect of the case is clear to everyone. Perhaps till that date the classes in Medical college will start commencing. This is an intentional tactic to delay the hearing of case. I am sure on next hearing date any of the concerned lawyer would either be missing or will ask the court to give more time for case preparation.

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    nota said:

    PPP still at it…
    Extra marks termed illegal
    “…But the committee witnessed an uproar when the PPP government intervened in its proceedings through a letter faxed from the office of the deputy attorney general saying that the matter was sub judice and could not be discussed by the committee….”

    (BTW: Nawaz asks CJ to call it a day)

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    nota said:

    Gilani distances himself from CJ exam marks scandal

    ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani is said to have finally started putting in place checks and balances in his own secretariat after he sacked his old friend, his press secretary Zahid Bashir.

    Bashir’s sacking, on the face of it, was aimed at sending a loud and clear message that his government had nothing to do with the scandal surrounding Chief Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar’s daughter.

    In a bid to put his own house in order before making others to fall in line, particularly some uncontrolled ministries, Gilani has already relieved his principal secretary Siraj Shamsuddin. Coming in for flak over the appointment of Bashir, the premier may bring in someone else to spruce up the image of his administration. It is the first time that a top gun in the Prime Minister House, a close friend of Gilani for several decades, was not spared for doing something beyond the call of duty.

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    aristotle said:

    mil baant kar khana hay akhir… fahmida mirza ko bhi tu apne batcho ko pass kara hay na khabhi na khabi…. or phir Dogar jee ko keechar me ghaseet kar kia NRO ko khulwana hay?
    but being a member of civil society we all must protest over it and protect our children’s future

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    jazoo said:

    @shaz

    Court notice means they have to come & explain their position which is apparently guilty.
    This notion that corrupt are friend of corrupt is wrong–A corrupt person is friend of no one but himself.
    This Dogar would not know Mush when he become a liability–Now I think Zardari would not know Dogar because he is becoming a liability.

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    Shaz said:

    @jazoo

    1. Whats stopped court to hear this case at its earliest convenience? (Whole nation is looking at this case because of the personality involved, moreover Dogger is still active in court (not resigned or on leave)

    2. Do you really have faith in court that it will decide the case on 12th of January?

    3. What if Dogger found guilty of interference, will court call him for clarification?

    4. Govt. has already made several successful attempts to hide the facts inspite they already conducted the inquiry.

    5. What if classes in Medical college are already in progress when they courts finally decides about the matter?

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    jazoo said:

    @shaz

    I am not saying that justice would be done instead Dogar might be dumped because he is becoming a liability.
    Justice in Pakistan at the moment is hard thing to conceive.

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    metastasis2 said:

    آوے گا بھئی آوے گا ڈگرا راج آوے گا
    ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    جیسی روح ویسے فرشتے
    جیسے عوام ویسے حکمران

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    Rashid1972 said:

    @Jabeen shame on you you r really ……….

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    c hussain said:

    @fanegari

    I dont want to get into unnecessary discussion about your jamat on this forum because this is a political forum and I raised the issue only because you tried to show that all this is because your jamat has been subjected to unfair treatment.

    But believe me I have read books about your Khalifa and head and its clearly written there that anyone not having bait on your prophet or chief IS A NON MUSLIM – What do you say – Can you say on this forum that those who are not Ahmedis are MUSLIMS. Can you say that in very clear terms.

    Why is that Ahmedia jammat has NOT ISSUED A SINGLE STATEMENT OF CONDEMNATION OF USA OR UK GOVERMENT IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. I havent read a singe statement coming from your headquarters and what is the stand of your jammat now that it has said that jihad is obslete in the current situation. Should the muslims all over the world should just sit down hands up and let non muslims kill them and loot their resources. Come on be brave and please enlighten us what are your views on these issues.

    I still believe Ahmediat was the creation of British as was Salman Rhusdie – by the way not a single statement from Ahmediat about Salman Rhusdie. What is your stand on that by the way.

    if you cannot answer any of the above then please stop whinning about how Ahmedis are being treated because you guys also treat other muslims as kafirs according to scriptures and sayings of the great Hazrat Ahmed Masih Maood – whatever

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    dara said:

    stop blaming and criticizing ppp for every thing. The judiciary system needs to be changed through legislations.
    There was no difference between Dogar and Iftikhar or any other judge as all of them were supporters of Marshal Law.
    PM Gillani has sacked his media secretary Zahid Bashir just because he arranged a meeting between Mr. Ansar Abassi and Dogar.
    Ansar Abbasi was the sane journalist who labeled allegations and corruption charges against Ch Iftilhar, ( like his sun was given special treatment to get Medical seat in Bolan Medical College, and was accommodated in bureaucracy and so on)

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    dara said:

    please read “same journalist” and his Son”

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    VOX said:

    @dara: Well hen PPP shouldn’t have then rode the tide of the revolution spearheaded by the legal fraternity, make multiple agreements and promises only to be broken to protect corruption and their status as a lackey and absolute continuation of Musharraf rule.

    There is a world of a difference betwixt Iftikhar and Dogar. Even you know that.

    And I don’t think it was ansar abbasi you’re talking about but naeem bokhari.

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    sher428 said:

    fanclub said
    “ya ALLAH zardari aur uskay sab toolay ko benazir kay pehlo mein jagah day”

    Ameen

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    ahmedA said:

    DEAR BROTHER SHER 428,
    AS SALAM O ALAIKUM

    AMEEN SUM AMEEN .

    Very well said , masha allah say allah app ko bhut ajer dai .

    REGARDS.

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    ahmedA said:

    Salam to all,

    I believe now is the time , that our speaker , deputy speaker , Malik Rehman ( BHANGEE N QATAL OF BENAZIR BHUTTO / NASAL OF NEECH AND QAMI ZAAT , AGENT OF RAW N CIA), Together with Justice DOGER ( DOGGY JUSTICE )

    They should all be held accountable , sacked n given rigorous punishment . They all r criminals , DR.FHAMIDA MIRZA BEING SPEAKER ASSEMBLY .

    We cant expect justice from them , shame on

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    bakr said:

    Why all this fuss about PPP and why this fuss about dogar???

    You may not like dogar… But the PPP wants him… Its a democratic government and a democratic government is not supposed to take every decision according to will of the people. The decision should be for the betterment of the people. You are not supposed to decide what decision should be taken, its the parliament and you as a nation has to accept that even if you dont like it…
    If Iftikhar comes back… Can he open up cases against such a powerful president?? No way….
    And who was Iftikhar… the man who turned against his god father and scratched his blls all his life, till he was asked to do no more.. Wake up people, for Gods sake..

    No defence for what dogar did, but what is the solution. You only criticise, any suggestions?
    Bring Iftikhar back… if that is your solution… then sentence him too for actually passing his son instead of only raising the marks….

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    SnrCtzn said:

    @ metastasis2.

    Please allow me, to try to transalste your Urdu-tpye comments into English, which I think are as(?) follows :-
    ‘Aawae ga aawae ga. daggar raj aawae ga’= Come what may, daggar raj will arrive.
    ‘Jaisi rooh, waisae frishtae ‘= Like angels, like the souls;
    ‘Jaisae awaam, waesae hukm-raan’ =like rulers, like the ruled.
    The last saying one is really classic.
    My opinion:-
    1. Every type of ‘governance’ is only & only fit for those, who are ‘goverened.’
    2. In other words, what is ‘good for a goose, MAY NOT be good for a gander.’
    3. It also means, that the TYPE of ‘governance’ or ‘a form of democracy,’ GOOD for the WESTERN SOCIETY, is CERTAINLY NOT GOOD, for the EASTERN SOCIETY.
    4. Time & again, this has been argued in Pakistani electronic & print media, by our elders, mostly by those who viewed it purely on moral, ethical & religious grounds.
    5. In other words, what our religious leaders have been demanding all along, seems to be CORRECT, that of LAW OF THE LAND, should be, as per ISLAMIC LAWS.
    6. That’s it. Then everything will automatically ‘fall in it’s proper place.’

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    SnrCtzn said:

    Sorry; at 1st line, 7th word, above,plz read as ‘TRANSLATE.’

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    nota said:

    NA body chief seeks CJ’s resignation, while IHC tries to delay it by giving the respondents “in a writ petition to submit their comments by the second week of January

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    fajehangiri said:

    @c hussain

    Regarding the definition of Muslim and Non-Muslim please have a look at these links.

    http://www.alislam.org/urdu/zb/view.php?k=12
    http://www.alislam.org/urdu/zb/view.php?k=17

    Regarding condemnation of USA and UK…I would say that had your source been some literature “by” Jamaat rather than “on” Jamaat than you would have got the answer.There is a whole book by Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmed which explains the whole story behind American Invasion of Iraq in 1991 and our Khulafa in their Sermons have repeatdly termed these acts as unjust and cruel if you want to read it than I will be more than obliged to send it by post or can get the pdf version uploaded on the web as well.That will explain to you where we stand on this issue and to put it briefly we believe that US invaded Iraq just to loot the Oil Wealth of that nation and to enslave its people..

    As for Salman Rushdie same is the case,one of the reasons that you think that there are not much Press Releases from our side is mainly becauase these issues are touched by our Khulufa in their Friday Sermons and if a thing has already been touched in a Sermon than there is,appearently, no need for the issuance of a separate Press Release.
    Again, to make it clear “We do believe what Salman Rushdie is doing can never be justified by any standard of moral,social,ethical,human,cultural or religious values and what to call of one statement here is the PDF version of 210 Page Book written against Rudhdie by Jamaat..You can find the whole text at the following web link:

    http://alislam.org/books/rushdie/RUSHDIE_Haunted_by_his_unholy_ghosts.pdf

    (The Name of the book is “Rushdie Haunted by His Unholy Ghosts”.

    Regarding your question/belief that Jamaat was planted by the British,there is a complete reply to this on the following web addess.Please have a look..

    http://www.alislam.org/urdu/zb/view.php?k=2

    Regarding the question about our believes about Jihad,here is your complete answer.

    http://www.alislam.org/urdu/zb/view.php?k=4

    I am sure that you will find all this material useful and some of it may answer some of your questions,if not please do not hesitate to ask because you can only achieve Manzil of Emaan after you have passed through Manzil of Shuk.

    Jazaak Allah

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    shaheed_babu said:

    Knowing that this is a political website and seeing our Non-Muslim Ahmadi friends spreading their propaganda, I can’t help but post the video of Mufti Mahmud (JUI) about the unanymous declaration of Mirzayi/Ahmadi/Qadiyanis/members of the Lahori group as NON-MUSLIM Minority by the National Assembly of Pakistan as a constitutional ammendment in the 1973 Constituition of Pakistan (which was written by the people of Pakistan and not by some Molvi).

    Part 1: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xbC-1dS3JEM
    Part 2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aB6EyFMkCyc
    Part 3: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MH_1bPINuGU

    Note that I fully support the freedom of religion to all the religious minorities of Pakistan be it Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists or Ahmadis. But I also think that the muslim majority of the country have the right to defend their belief against any religious propaganda by our Non Muslim friend according to the Noble Qur’an and Sunnah of the last prophet, i.e. prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

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    Adnan Arshad Mansoori said:

    This lady Fahmida who’s always busy to pose as if she is Benazir Bhatto she tries to adopt each & every style of BB her own ORIGINAL is nothing moreover her/Fahmida can’t take any decissive measure of her own, first of she will ask to Zardari & Zardari will look to his NRO terms & condition and the BURNING ISSUE will remain as it is therefore from PPP there is no any single hope to resolve the matter.

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