Some obvious questions that have not yet been raised regarding BB’s murder.
Zardari being one of the major suspects is a logical inference though by no means the only one. A clear suspicion can be raised at the direct beneficiary. There are also many other details that are worth investigating.
1. The role of Khalid Shahensha. He was the servant of BB who can be seen on youtube making very strange gestures and then repeatedly pointing to BB. He was reported to have gone underground after the assassination. Thereafter, he was killed while serving as the security chief of Bilawal house in Karachi 6 months later. Why did he disappear AND THEN ONCE AGAIN POSITIONED IN Bilawal house?
2. Why didn’t BB inform anyone else about the “will”? Especially when she very well knew Zardari’s reputation within and outside her party? At a minimum, could not have she used the services of a credible foreign law firm or informed her closest confidant Naheed Khan?
3. Zardari very smoothly moved into gaining absolute power. He initially indicated that Amin Fahim would be the next PM and Zardari would be playing a facilitator role. This of course changed after elections. Additionally, there have been blatant lies eroding his credibility by performing unbelievable somersaults having signed before the country twice.
4. The roles of Rehman Malik and Zulfikar Mirza, BB’s top 2 security advisors. Rehman Malik’s conflicting acts and statements are public knowledge. Plus, the elevation of shady characters and push baks to BB’s loyalists such as Naheed Khan and Fahim and Aitzaz.
5. The lack of real will to find BB’s killers.
6. The reports, though unconfirmed that the couple was living separately. It does seem certain though that despite the NRO, BB did not have a role for Zardari till her death and no ticket for the elections was provided to him.
Each of these points can further be expanded. Therefore, The guy has millions of his dollars released, which is a fact; He has moved from a highly despised personality to the president and an absolute dictator in the garb of democracy and now we watch helplessly as there is zero chance that he will follow democratic procedures in the next elections – the past year should make that quite clear. All we can do for the time being is to enjoy the following video and dream away!
Where you see, there is failure, except hiring incompetent friends and relatives. Don’t see any government out there, they can’t sovlve our unemployment,health,law & order situation, (even president runs away from the country, now and then, to keep himself safe, in his own government, what a joke!!)education, justice,poverty,you just name it and will find failure.
Please comment on apathy and cruel attitude of so called educated, patriotic people staying away from polling stations.
Sitting in living rooms and gossiping Oh all politicians are corrupt.
We should look into our attitude.
I hope this is not offensive, rather thought provoking.
I think PPP let Mushraaf go unharmed because that’s what America wanted. Americans used him and then at the end they were able to carve graceful exit for him. I am sure it wouldn’t be different if if instead of Zardari we had BB or Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz Sharif was some what critical in the beginning but under American advise he toned down his rehotric against Mushraaf’s trial. If it were not Americans Army would not have allowed his trial.
On the positive side PPP may not have done this by choice but I believe it was right thing forced by Americans/Army. At highest level no matter how good and honest one is, he/she can be trailed for any thing. Bhutto was trialed and hanged for murder, Nawaz Sharif was on the verge but Saudis saved him, BB was charged with corruption. People like Junaejo, Shauket Aziz etc who don’t have future role in politics are considered harmless and they don’t go under political victimization of incoming administration. From history we have learned that this sort of political victimization hurts peaceful transition. If outgoing administration knows that they will be either killed or prisioned after office they will do everything to stick to office and that will result in bloody transition. This is one of the big black spot on otherwise glorious rule of Khulf-e-rashedeen (Abu Bakar, Omer, Usman Ali). They lacked mechanism of peaceful transition.
Do you think Bush can’t be trialed for war crimes in Iraq? No matter how unpopular he is how many Americans are calling for his trial – almost none. In first world they have come to the conclusion that political victimization (no matter how honest it is) results in destabilizing political system in long run. Thats why they pardon Nixon.
In 3rd world democracies we need to do same thing. We can’t have political stability until our top leaders Khalida Zia, Hassena Wajid, Gen Irshad, BB,ZAB, Nawaz Sharif, Gen Zia, Anwer Ibrahim can see a peaceful regular life after office like western leaders.
Mushraaf’s graceful exit may not be pouplar or by choice decision but I HOPE its the step in right direction.
When you have a gunda sitting in the top office, gunda gardi all over the country, i condemn this threatening of journalists, we have one institute(media) which is the light and they have to live they life in fear for speaking the truth, shameful.
So I can conclude from your comments that it is all for power game. They make promises and tell lies. Never keep promises as well. Do deals like NRO and others like MMA and other parties did for sake of power. .
Nothing is changed and nothing gona change as it was alerady well known because of NRO between US, Mush, and PPP way before elections.
Dear Nusrat and Mustaq sahab
Asslam u alekum
I live here in Dublin and we Pakistanis and we see your programme through pk politics.com. And basically I am from Faisalabad.
Today I saw that when some one tried to criticised the government you dropped his call. Of course when people have problem and if not resolved especially due to mismanagement they have the right to ask them. Don’t think that people don’t observe you. let the people say frequently their views and eventually ruler will know that what people are thinking.
Now I tell you some reasons about the current crises
1- previous govt when sold /privatised Karachi electric supply corporation the new which are actually Musharraf and shoukat & co give up or refuse to buy the electricity from the private sector which previously was purchased. Reason ! very clear that electricity was expensive and due to that they cant maximise their profit. when there was short fall and people start crying. ultimately through MQM govt was forced to cut the electricity from the other area and provide to Karachi. Still no one have ask them you got control and you know the situation and it is your responsibility to provide electricity to people of Karachi. Still they are buying cheaper electricity from wapda and providing that to people of that area. may be you remember that these crises started few years ago in Karachi and people did a lot protest.
Now current Govt should take strict action against these people IE owners of co. because the purpose of the privatisation was that they manage in better way and bring investment produce more electricity rather than buy from wapda cheaply
2- Govt failed to provide diesel and furnace oil so that a lot industry which have alternative could manage to over come.
3 govt should not provide electricity and gas to new ares until it get out trough the crises as Mustaq mentioned that mandara and sahwa.
Govt did take any adequate action which reduce the intensity of the crises ie there lot ways to reduce ie there some special devices bu installing in electric house which increase the supply and these devices are not so expensive
4 There are hundreds of sugar mills in Pakistan they have their own electric power generator govt can buy from them
5- Of course these problemsms exits already but think that PPP govt relay need some caliber people otherwise it would not in position to resolve these issue. Mr. Raja is relay a poor guy he even dint have clue what he is talking about
thanks and regards
Muhammad Ashraf
Dublin Ireland
You can conclude that my friend if you want to focus on half empty glass, I was trying to see half full. Politics is a game of power. There is absolutely no confusion in my mind about it. By virtue of the power one can do good or bad but that doesn’t change the core nature of the politics ie it is game of power. When Prophet Mohammad (saw) formed the state in Makkah he was precisely setting up a political power house from where he can expand his ideals – The religion Islam. That provided Hazrat Omer a platform to further expand the political horizon through many holy wars. Hitler unsuccessfully tried the same and lost his and many millions in two world wars. There is an element of social welfare – improving the civic conditions of masses in politics but that comes after attaining power. This is the primary reason Imran Khan didn’t stop after cancer hospital. One can influence more both positively and negatively through politics. So there is nothing wrong with politics, it’s a hard ball and to succeed one has to play by the rules of the game whether he likes it or not.
As far as NRO is concerned I think it was a positive move on Mushraaf’s part but it was not properly sold to public. PMLQ approved it under again Army/American pressure but at the same time spread negative propaganda about it because they knew they were signing there political death certificate. Under NRO Mushraaf gov with drew charges against political workers that were framed by either BB or Nawaz Sharif against political opponents. Please tell me how is it different than charges with drawn by gov against Imran Khan when he went on hunger strike or charges set aside by gov under famous Nawaz Sharif exile deal. All were politically motivated cases which were with drawn. Political victimization helps or hurts the actual actors (Nawaz Sharif or Mushraaf for instance) but how it helps masses. Putting Mushraaf or Zardari behind the bar can satisfy public ego but it will not help solving any problems. If its not them we will have some one like them calling the shots. Remember to get at highest office one has to compromise a lot. Some people think that instead of Zardari or Mushraaf if we had Nawaz Sharif or Imran Khan calling the shots things would have been different but its wishful thinking. Anyone who takes highest office at this time has to commit support on war against terror. Unfortunately that’s the reason people don’t see much difference between Zardari and Mushraaf’s policies. Both Zardari and Mushraaf couldn’t sort their differences with Ch. Iftikhar because of his stance on missing person. If Obama administration changes their policies on war prisoners it will be much easier for Zardari to reinstate him. I am sure BB or for that matter anyone else would have same constraints.
he deliberately did not registered FIR to forestall inquiry which is mandatory he swallowed all her wealth and induced follower
on graveyard worship he himself has never been a political figure.he was not seen with her right from journey to pakistan untill reported dead in rawalpindi.this was zardari first meeting with his wife”dead body during her life he lived away from her and media screen.
what about these ? !!!!!read and decide for urself
1 ) NRO?
2 ) Gas?
3 ) Electricicity?
4 ) blame everything on previous government? what ve u done since 9 months?
5 ) who ordered beat of public which is protesting against unsheduled power and gas cut?
6 ) independent judiciary?who is gonna restore remanning 5% honest judges?
7 ) who is stopping media from covering judges movement?
8 ) why is election commisson not been made independent?
9 ) has the poverty been reduced since this government came into power? what steps it took towards eliminating unemployment?
10) how many hospitals and schools it has built other than changing the names of old ones to BB so called “shaheed”?
11) what about coin with Benazir pic on top? where is quaid-a-azam?
12) what about 17th amendment?
13) what about 58 2b to the parliment?
14) what about making promise and then breaking it by saying it was not a hadith but was a political statement)?(shame on u Mr 10%)
15) what about IMF loan when zardari and nawaz alone ve got over $5 billion?
16) who is protecting musharraf ?
17) what about law and order of the country? PPP busy obeying USA’s war against muslims.
18) who is gonna implement the national security resolution passed by this tattu american based government?
19) our army fighting our brothers in FATA?
20) Drones attacks from USA?
21) what about India violating our airspace and threating us?
22) what about 80 people who ve been killed every month in 2008?(deaths by drones and suicide in reaction of drones) who is gonna stop more killing of innocent people?
23) who defended india when it stopped our water and violated indus water treaty?
24) what about BB’s murder investigation?
25) what about missing persons investigation?
26) what about murtaza bhutto was shot dead by police when BB was PM where is the inquiry result?
27) who killed khalid shahnshah? where is the inquiry?
28) zardari knows the names behind BB’s assesination but where are the names?
29) who inhereted party in dowery(jahez)?
30) who is claming sir-e-mehel’s money?
31) who got rid of switzerland cases after coming into power?
32) what about abdul qadeer’s house arest. Dr.Qadeer(the man , our national hero ,our national asset)?
33) what about closing jammat-ud-dawa without any proof?
34) what about bringing back Dr. Afia?
35) who is gonna bring back altaf hussain ( the terrorist ruling a party from uk.what a joke this is)?
36) who stopped china from vito jammat-ud-dawa ban?
37) what about frns of pakistan ? why no body is willing to help u?
38) what about taking 250 ministers to saudi for begging and comming back with empty pocket?
39) what about giving offices and increasing marks to the children of government officials.(doggar and amin fahim)?
40) where is the dogar’s daughter inquiry result? who is stopping this inquiry?
41) salman taseer ppp governor who has made governor house a “kotha” ( a bar)(goto youtube or brows net for the pictures)
42) what about accusing each other daughter’s and families?(dogar,amin fahim,salman taseer)?
43) whats zardari’s qualification to be a president?
44) whats the difference b/w shaukat aziz and yusuf raza gillani?
45) what the difference b/w musharraf and zardari?
46) gaza invation by israiel and whats pakistan stand on that?
47) who is gonna protect our brothers and sisters in Gaza when u can t protect ur own people,rather u are making ur army fight against ur own people just to please america.what are these nuclear bombs for?
48) who called kasmiries a terrorists or sarah palin a gorgeous?
49) who is gonna visit our founder’s( quaid e azam) tomb? when so called leaders will visit BB’s so called “shaheed” grave?
50) (Astagfirullah)(God forbid) don’t jiyals feel shame when they call BB’s grave a syasi “kabah” ?
@kashif and supercreature
What’s that discussion about who let Musharaf go is all about?
Musharaf has through out has been supported by pak army specially it’s generals. All his actions were endorsed by all generals throughout his regime. These generals who are still ruling behind the curtains. These generals will never let any bloody civilian ever touch any of their senior including Musharaf.
They (generals) have made it possible for Musharaf to get a so called respectful exit, as guard of honor was given by men in uniform not by parliamentarians.
We need external powers to set us free as politicians and others can’t win against our true rulers.
Dont just blame the army, it was AZ and PPP who authorise it because Shaheed BB NRO. its was all the part of pact of mush, US and PPP. PPP supporters and party have long habbit to blame and talk about conspiracy theories to show their innocence. Army stopping PPP to reinstate CJ? Army stoppinh PPP to act of charter of democray, Army stopping PPP to not keeping promises and keep telling lies?
Army have and had problems but dont mix up the things to make mockery out of you.
Are you asking India or USA (external powers) to set us free? or what? again a conspiracy theory? they all seek USA and UK help to come into power. they all never stopped licking their asses and meeting their demands and praising them Do you need history of BB Shaheed, asking for help from USA all the time in mushi’s era.
We need to set ourself free from ourself, our greed of money and power. No general shall have the power, power of people behind the politicians once they will decide to be politicians for people and country.
It is old saying “aazmaiy huey ko aazmana baywaqufi hey”. We repeatedly elected those crooks who have stung us before. As per writer cowasjee that we (awams)are nothing but donkeys and today whatever is happening to us, is the price we are paying for our donkiness.
In Punjab, there is a well-known way of telling kids to behave themselves by saying “tang na karo, bhaoo aa jai ga.” Rough translation: “behave yourself or the monster (bhaoo) is coming.” The PPP seems to have adopted this as one of its main propaganda tactics. Whenever it does something blatantly wrong or lacks sincerity on an issue, it conveniently diverts the blame on to the establishment even if the latter is not really involved.
For example, it is crystal clear that the PPP does not want to unconditionally restore the judiciary and allow its independence for its own selfish reasons too, but many of its apologists say that they want to restore the judiciary but are only being cautious due to the monster (i.e. the ‘establishment and outside forces’).
Previously, they were also using the same tactic to justify the reluctance to get rid of Musharraf, until the PPP eventually decided to impeach him after being pressed hard by PML-N. In the end, Musharraf was smoothly ousted without any intervention by the (much talked about) anti-PPP monster to save him.
However, even this has not deterred the ‘Bhaoo Brigade’ from continuing to use the same fear mongering tactics to defend the PPP. A latest demonstration of this was given by a pro-PPP TV anchor (Nusrat Javed) on Wednesday night (aug 27, 2008) when he announced that his channel’s transmissions were being blocked in parts of Lahore where cable TV services are provided by a company owned by Salman Taseer. Conveniently forgetting that Mr. Taseer was a PPP man, this TV host gave a wild conspiracy theory suggesting that the separation between PML-N and the PPP had been engineered by Mr. Taseer. Throughout the show, he could not even once get himself to ask the plain and honest question as to why the PPP was allergic to the restoration of the judiciary. That he may be overdoing it to the point of looking ridiculous and losing his credibility is a thought that appears to have eluded him and several other pro-PPP analysts.
Some obvious questions that have not yet been raised regarding BB’s murder.
Zardari being one of the major suspects is a logical inference though by no means the only one. A clear suspicion can be raised at the direct beneficiary. There are also many other details that are worth investigating.
1. The role of Khalid Shahensha. He was the servant of BB who can be seen on youtube making very strange gestures and then repeatedly pointing to BB. He was reported to have gone underground after the assassination. Thereafter, he was killed while serving as the security chief of Bilawal house in Karachi 6 months later. Why did he disappear AND THEN ONCE AGAIN POSITIONED IN Bilawal house?
2. Why didn’t BB inform anyone else about the “will”? Especially when she very well knew Zardari’s reputation within and outside her party? At a minimum, could not have she used the services of a credible foreign law firm or informed her closest confidant Naheed Khan?
3. Zardari very smoothly moved into gaining absolute power. He initially indicated that Amin Fahim would be the next PM and Zardari would be playing a facilitator role. This of course changed after elections. Additionally, there have been blatant lies eroding his credibility by performing unbelievable somersaults having signed before the country twice.
4. The roles of Rehman Malik and Zulfikar Mirza, BB’s top 2 security advisors. Rehman Malik’s conflicting acts and statements are public knowledge. Plus, the elevation of shady characters and push baks to BB’s loyalists such as Naheed Khan and Fahim and Aitzaz.
5. The lack of real will to find BB’s killers.
6. The reports, though unconfirmed that the couple was living separately. It does seem certain though that despite the NRO, BB did not have a role for Zardari till her death and no ticket for the elections was provided to him.
Each of these points can further be expanded. Therefore, The guy has millions of his dollars released, which is a fact; He has moved from a highly despised personality to the president and an absolute dictator in the garb of democracy and now we watch helplessly as there is zero chance that he will follow democratic procedures in the next elections – the past year should make that quite clear. All we can do for the time being is to enjoy the following video and dream away!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szP_C2NaiSw
Where you see, there is failure, except hiring incompetent friends and relatives. Don’t see any government out there, they can’t sovlve our unemployment,health,law & order situation, (even president runs away from the country, now and then, to keep himself safe, in his own government, what a joke!!)education, justice,poverty,you just name it and will find failure.
Now neutral persons starts admitting about the power crisis. If u not pay then u would never get the power and that’s the case here.
The actual culprit was Nawaz’s govt rather then dictator’s, who discourage to set up power plants.
Now neutral persons starts admitting about the power crisis. If u not pay then u would never get the power and that’s the case here.
The actual culprit was Nawaz’s govt rather then dictator’s, who discourage to set up power plants
@nomansaeed
Why the PML Q and the dictator didnt do any thing in the last 10 years about power if they encouraged power sector?
@supercreature
And why PPP let’s that dictator go without answerinig your questions ?. And that too with a guard of hounor.
Until you answer this question of mine, please don’t EVER again raise your question on any forum. I would appriciate that.
@Masood Ahmad
Bahi jaan, I dont have to answer you because I totally agree with you here …
Just few minutes before posting my message that you replied back on, I had posted a message raising the same question ….
@Masood Ahmad
For your reference:
see the post and few other on the same page,
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/12/31/kal-tak-31-december-2008/#comment-142711
saari daal kaali, right frm ayub to converted bhutto. WE have to vote for honest people next time. Its WE voted them time & again.
@ asif
Please comment on apathy and cruel attitude of so called educated, patriotic people staying away from polling stations.
Sitting in living rooms and gossiping Oh all politicians are corrupt.
We should look into our attitude.
I hope this is not offensive, rather thought provoking.
By the way , why so much hatred for bhutto.
B
Bhutto gave this country one thing which no one has The constitition agreed by all federating units.
Atleast give this due to him
@supercreature
I think PPP let Mushraaf go unharmed because that’s what America wanted. Americans used him and then at the end they were able to carve graceful exit for him. I am sure it wouldn’t be different if if instead of Zardari we had BB or Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz Sharif was some what critical in the beginning but under American advise he toned down his rehotric against Mushraaf’s trial. If it were not Americans Army would not have allowed his trial.
On the positive side PPP may not have done this by choice but I believe it was right thing forced by Americans/Army. At highest level no matter how good and honest one is, he/she can be trailed for any thing. Bhutto was trialed and hanged for murder, Nawaz Sharif was on the verge but Saudis saved him, BB was charged with corruption. People like Junaejo, Shauket Aziz etc who don’t have future role in politics are considered harmless and they don’t go under political victimization of incoming administration. From history we have learned that this sort of political victimization hurts peaceful transition. If outgoing administration knows that they will be either killed or prisioned after office they will do everything to stick to office and that will result in bloody transition. This is one of the big black spot on otherwise glorious rule of Khulf-e-rashedeen (Abu Bakar, Omer, Usman Ali). They lacked mechanism of peaceful transition.
Do you think Bush can’t be trialed for war crimes in Iraq? No matter how unpopular he is how many Americans are calling for his trial – almost none. In first world they have come to the conclusion that political victimization (no matter how honest it is) results in destabilizing political system in long run. Thats why they pardon Nixon.
In 3rd world democracies we need to do same thing. We can’t have political stability until our top leaders Khalida Zia, Hassena Wajid, Gen Irshad, BB,ZAB, Nawaz Sharif, Gen Zia, Anwer Ibrahim can see a peaceful regular life after office like western leaders.
Mushraaf’s graceful exit may not be pouplar or by choice decision but I HOPE its the step in right direction.
When you have a gunda sitting in the top office, gunda gardi all over the country, i condemn this threatening of journalists, we have one institute(media) which is the light and they have to live they life in fear for speaking the truth, shameful.
@ aftab
What do you think of so called journalists
Nazir naji, zia shahid, asad ghalib, imtiaz alam, sr shahid masood
Geo, ary biased reporting.
Unfortunately every field has gundas.
What do you think of gundas on this website, who cant hear any thing not according to their wishes.
wHAT do you think of anti democratic attitudes by us.
@Kashif
So I can conclude from your comments that it is all for power game. They make promises and tell lies. Never keep promises as well. Do deals like NRO and others like MMA and other parties did for sake of power.
.
Nothing is changed and nothing gona change as it was alerady well known because of NRO between US, Mush, and PPP way before elections.
Dear Nusrat and Mustaq sahab
Asslam u alekum
I live here in Dublin and we Pakistanis and we see your programme through pk politics.com. And basically I am from Faisalabad.
Today I saw that when some one tried to criticised the government you dropped his call. Of course when people have problem and if not resolved especially due to mismanagement they have the right to ask them. Don’t think that people don’t observe you. let the people say frequently their views and eventually ruler will know that what people are thinking.
Now I tell you some reasons about the current crises
1- previous govt when sold /privatised Karachi electric supply corporation the new which are actually Musharraf and shoukat & co give up or refuse to buy the electricity from the private sector which previously was purchased. Reason ! very clear that electricity was expensive and due to that they cant maximise their profit. when there was short fall and people start crying. ultimately through MQM govt was forced to cut the electricity from the other area and provide to Karachi. Still no one have ask them you got control and you know the situation and it is your responsibility to provide electricity to people of Karachi. Still they are buying cheaper electricity from wapda and providing that to people of that area. may be you remember that these crises started few years ago in Karachi and people did a lot protest.
Now current Govt should take strict action against these people IE owners of co. because the purpose of the privatisation was that they manage in better way and bring investment produce more electricity rather than buy from wapda cheaply
2- Govt failed to provide diesel and furnace oil so that a lot industry which have alternative could manage to over come.
3 govt should not provide electricity and gas to new ares until it get out trough the crises as Mustaq mentioned that mandara and sahwa.
Govt did take any adequate action which reduce the intensity of the crises ie there lot ways to reduce ie there some special devices bu installing in electric house which increase the supply and these devices are not so expensive
4 There are hundreds of sugar mills in Pakistan they have their own electric power generator govt can buy from them
5- Of course these problemsms exits already but think that PPP govt relay need some caliber people otherwise it would not in position to resolve these issue. Mr. Raja is relay a poor guy he even dint have clue what he is talking about
thanks and regards
Muhammad Ashraf
Dublin Ireland
@supercreature
Thanks dear – that gives me satisfaction and pleasure !!!
Cheers
@supercreature
You can conclude that my friend if you want to focus on half empty glass, I was trying to see half full. Politics is a game of power. There is absolutely no confusion in my mind about it. By virtue of the power one can do good or bad but that doesn’t change the core nature of the politics ie it is game of power. When Prophet Mohammad (saw) formed the state in Makkah he was precisely setting up a political power house from where he can expand his ideals – The religion Islam. That provided Hazrat Omer a platform to further expand the political horizon through many holy wars. Hitler unsuccessfully tried the same and lost his and many millions in two world wars. There is an element of social welfare – improving the civic conditions of masses in politics but that comes after attaining power. This is the primary reason Imran Khan didn’t stop after cancer hospital. One can influence more both positively and negatively through politics. So there is nothing wrong with politics, it’s a hard ball and to succeed one has to play by the rules of the game whether he likes it or not.
As far as NRO is concerned I think it was a positive move on Mushraaf’s part but it was not properly sold to public. PMLQ approved it under again Army/American pressure but at the same time spread negative propaganda about it because they knew they were signing there political death certificate. Under NRO Mushraaf gov with drew charges against political workers that were framed by either BB or Nawaz Sharif against political opponents. Please tell me how is it different than charges with drawn by gov against Imran Khan when he went on hunger strike or charges set aside by gov under famous Nawaz Sharif exile deal. All were politically motivated cases which were with drawn. Political victimization helps or hurts the actual actors (Nawaz Sharif or Mushraaf for instance) but how it helps masses. Putting Mushraaf or Zardari behind the bar can satisfy public ego but it will not help solving any problems. If its not them we will have some one like them calling the shots. Remember to get at highest office one has to compromise a lot. Some people think that instead of Zardari or Mushraaf if we had Nawaz Sharif or Imran Khan calling the shots things would have been different but its wishful thinking. Anyone who takes highest office at this time has to commit support on war against terror. Unfortunately that’s the reason people don’t see much difference between Zardari and Mushraaf’s policies. Both Zardari and Mushraaf couldn’t sort their differences with Ch. Iftikhar because of his stance on missing person. If Obama administration changes their policies on war prisoners it will be much easier for Zardari to reinstate him. I am sure BB or for that matter anyone else would have same constraints.
Foolish people of Pakistan deserve the high cost of electricity and load shedding. Water crises will be the next.
Until they do not learn the importance of Water reservoirs and Dams.
zardari is a killer
he deliberately did not registered FIR to forestall inquiry which is mandatory he swallowed all her wealth and induced follower
on graveyard worship he himself has never been a political figure.he was not seen with her right from journey to pakistan untill reported dead in rawalpindi.this was zardari first meeting with his wife”dead body during her life he lived away from her and media screen.
You know why does India not feel any need to assault Pakistan now?
Because they have already won the war by blocking our Waters.
what about these ? !!!!!read and decide for urself
1 ) NRO?
2 ) Gas?
3 ) Electricicity?
4 ) blame everything on previous government? what ve u done since 9 months?
5 ) who ordered beat of public which is protesting against unsheduled power and gas cut?
6 ) independent judiciary?who is gonna restore remanning 5% honest judges?
7 ) who is stopping media from covering judges movement?
8 ) why is election commisson not been made independent?
9 ) has the poverty been reduced since this government came into power? what steps it took towards eliminating unemployment?
10) how many hospitals and schools it has built other than changing the names of old ones to BB so called “shaheed”?
11) what about coin with Benazir pic on top? where is quaid-a-azam?
12) what about 17th amendment?
13) what about 58 2b to the parliment?
14) what about making promise and then breaking it by saying it was not a hadith but was a political statement)?(shame on u Mr 10%)
15) what about IMF loan when zardari and nawaz alone ve got over $5 billion?
16) who is protecting musharraf ?
17) what about law and order of the country? PPP busy obeying USA’s war against muslims.
18) who is gonna implement the national security resolution passed by this tattu american based government?
19) our army fighting our brothers in FATA?
20) Drones attacks from USA?
21) what about India violating our airspace and threating us?
22) what about 80 people who ve been killed every month in 2008?(deaths by drones and suicide in reaction of drones) who is gonna stop more killing of innocent people?
23) who defended india when it stopped our water and violated indus water treaty?
24) what about BB’s murder investigation?
25) what about missing persons investigation?
26) what about murtaza bhutto was shot dead by police when BB was PM where is the inquiry result?
27) who killed khalid shahnshah? where is the inquiry?
28) zardari knows the names behind BB’s assesination but where are the names?
29) who inhereted party in dowery(jahez)?
30) who is claming sir-e-mehel’s money?
31) who got rid of switzerland cases after coming into power?
32) what about abdul qadeer’s house arest. Dr.Qadeer(the man , our national hero ,our national asset)?
33) what about closing jammat-ud-dawa without any proof?
34) what about bringing back Dr. Afia?
35) who is gonna bring back altaf hussain ( the terrorist ruling a party from uk.what a joke this is)?
36) who stopped china from vito jammat-ud-dawa ban?
37) what about frns of pakistan ? why no body is willing to help u?
38) what about taking 250 ministers to saudi for begging and comming back with empty pocket?
39) what about giving offices and increasing marks to the children of government officials.(doggar and amin fahim)?
40) where is the dogar’s daughter inquiry result? who is stopping this inquiry?
41) salman taseer ppp governor who has made governor house a “kotha” ( a bar)(goto youtube or brows net for the pictures)
42) what about accusing each other daughter’s and families?(dogar,amin fahim,salman taseer)?
43) whats zardari’s qualification to be a president?
44) whats the difference b/w shaukat aziz and yusuf raza gillani?
45) what the difference b/w musharraf and zardari?
46) gaza invation by israiel and whats pakistan stand on that?
47) who is gonna protect our brothers and sisters in Gaza when u can t protect ur own people,rather u are making ur army fight against ur own people just to please america.what are these nuclear bombs for?
48) who called kasmiries a terrorists or sarah palin a gorgeous?
49) who is gonna visit our founder’s( quaid e azam) tomb? when so called leaders will visit BB’s so called “shaheed” grave?
50) (Astagfirullah)(God forbid) don’t jiyals feel shame when they call BB’s grave a syasi “kabah” ?
51) who is bigger begarat? musharraf or zardari?
i agree with usman.we should stop maligning politicians and defame the system.
@kashif and supercreature
What’s that discussion about who let Musharaf go is all about?
Musharaf has through out has been supported by pak army specially it’s generals. All his actions were endorsed by all generals throughout his regime. These generals who are still ruling behind the curtains. These generals will never let any bloody civilian ever touch any of their senior including Musharaf.
They (generals) have made it possible for Musharaf to get a so called respectful exit, as guard of honor was given by men in uniform not by parliamentarians.
We need external powers to set us free as politicians and others can’t win against our true rulers.
@Dara
Dont just blame the army, it was AZ and PPP who authorise it because Shaheed BB NRO. its was all the part of pact of mush, US and PPP. PPP supporters and party have long habbit to blame and talk about conspiracy theories to show their innocence. Army stopping PPP to reinstate CJ? Army stoppinh PPP to act of charter of democray, Army stopping PPP to not keeping promises and keep telling lies?
Army have and had problems but dont mix up the things to make mockery out of you.
Are you asking India or USA (external powers) to set us free? or what? again a conspiracy theory? they all seek USA and UK help to come into power. they all never stopped licking their asses and meeting their demands and praising them Do you need history of BB Shaheed, asking for help from USA all the time in mushi’s era.
We need to set ourself free from ourself, our greed of money and power. No general shall have the power, power of people behind the politicians once they will decide to be politicians for people and country.
Stop you conspiracy theories please.
Reminding the politicians about their promises before elections is not defaming them.
It is old saying “aazmaiy huey ko aazmana baywaqufi hey”. We repeatedly elected those crooks who have stung us before. As per writer cowasjee that we (awams)are nothing but donkeys and today whatever is happening to us, is the price we are paying for our donkiness.
There are lots of anti-Pakistani agents are at loose on this site, who are trying to fail us as per desire of our enemies.
@supercreature:
Dara is a member of the bhaoo brigade as explained here
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/08/28/the-bhaoo-brigade/
In Punjab, there is a well-known way of telling kids to behave themselves by saying “tang na karo, bhaoo aa jai ga.” Rough translation: “behave yourself or the monster (bhaoo) is coming.” The PPP seems to have adopted this as one of its main propaganda tactics. Whenever it does something blatantly wrong or lacks sincerity on an issue, it conveniently diverts the blame on to the establishment even if the latter is not really involved.
For example, it is crystal clear that the PPP does not want to unconditionally restore the judiciary and allow its independence for its own selfish reasons too, but many of its apologists say that they want to restore the judiciary but are only being cautious due to the monster (i.e. the ‘establishment and outside forces’).
Previously, they were also using the same tactic to justify the reluctance to get rid of Musharraf, until the PPP eventually decided to impeach him after being pressed hard by PML-N. In the end, Musharraf was smoothly ousted without any intervention by the (much talked about) anti-PPP monster to save him.
However, even this has not deterred the ‘Bhaoo Brigade’ from continuing to use the same fear mongering tactics to defend the PPP. A latest demonstration of this was given by a pro-PPP TV anchor (Nusrat Javed) on Wednesday night (aug 27, 2008) when he announced that his channel’s transmissions were being blocked in parts of Lahore where cable TV services are provided by a company owned by Salman Taseer. Conveniently forgetting that Mr. Taseer was a PPP man, this TV host gave a wild conspiracy theory suggesting that the separation between PML-N and the PPP had been engineered by Mr. Taseer. Throughout the show, he could not even once get himself to ask the plain and honest question as to why the PPP was allergic to the restoration of the judiciary. That he may be overdoing it to the point of looking ridiculous and losing his credibility is a thought that appears to have eluded him and several other pro-PPP analysts.
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