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		<title>By: Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-146342</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!!! Solution to Pakistan&#039;s Energy Crisis !!!

After the recent award of highest Pakistani civilian awards to Boucher and Biden, comes the sensationalist new technology to generate free and renewable energy. 

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95352790nu8.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Proposed plans for the Power Plant.&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!! Solution to Pakistan&#8217;s Energy Crisis !!!</p>
<p>After the recent award of highest Pakistani civilian awards to Boucher and Biden, comes the sensationalist new technology to generate free and renewable energy. </p>
<p><a HREF="http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95352790nu8.png" rel="nofollow">Proposed plans for the Power Plant.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ovais Raza</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-145664</link>
		<dc:creator>Ovais Raza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this goes for &quot;AWAIS&quot;

Dude you have come up with very valid points but it seems u have some problem with ppl having cars :).Shortage of gas is not at all because of CNG sector as a whole consumes less than 6 percent of the total gas output.

Do u think 

cutting down 6 percent consumption will actually make the industry face no shortage of gas at all.

CNG has resulted in savings of more than $250 million per annum of foreign exchange for Pakistan.

The investments of more than Rs60 billion of middle and lower middle class people, who converted their vehicles to use cheap and environment-friendly CNG, would go to waste.

This will create unemployment and will effect the banking sector too who has taken exposure in financing CNG pumps.

My suggestion is

1) Get the circular railway system going in Karachi.

2) If people have an idea how to come up with a cheap solar panel or a way to produce electricity at home try educating everyone so that we all can give it a try.If successful the rest will follow.

Don&#039;t be furious on politician or army cause they r there cause educated people prefer to go abroad or be an engineer,doctor,banker and never thought of forming an alliance with each other to form a political party which is loyal to the motherland.


stop the blame game lets try to come up with solutions not suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this goes for &#8220;AWAIS&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude you have come up with very valid points but it seems u have some problem with ppl having cars <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .Shortage of gas is not at all because of CNG sector as a whole consumes less than 6 percent of the total gas output.</p>
<p>Do u think </p>
<p>cutting down 6 percent consumption will actually make the industry face no shortage of gas at all.</p>
<p>CNG has resulted in savings of more than $250 million per annum of foreign exchange for Pakistan.</p>
<p>The investments of more than Rs60 billion of middle and lower middle class people, who converted their vehicles to use cheap and environment-friendly CNG, would go to waste.</p>
<p>This will create unemployment and will effect the banking sector too who has taken exposure in financing CNG pumps.</p>
<p>My suggestion is</p>
<p>1) Get the circular railway system going in Karachi.</p>
<p>2) If people have an idea how to come up with a cheap solar panel or a way to produce electricity at home try educating everyone so that we all can give it a try.If successful the rest will follow.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be furious on politician or army cause they r there cause educated people prefer to go abroad or be an engineer,doctor,banker and never thought of forming an alliance with each other to form a political party which is loyal to the motherland.</p>
<p>stop the blame game lets try to come up with solutions not suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: waqas0583</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144876</link>
		<dc:creator>waqas0583</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry people but all of you are only criticizing and complaining about the past and current governments which is not doing anyone any good.  Instead of complaining why can we the public of pakistan take the matters in our own hands and fix our country.  Load shedding is the biggest hurdle towards success of our country.  How can we move forward with technology or try to eliminate poverty from this country when there is no energy available.  Why is it that india can have huge amounts of investments from indians abroad as well as other governments when pakistan has the toughest import laws and rediculous tarrifs why are we the people of pakistan letting this go on and on.  I live in the US however I spent eight months in pakistan in 2008 and seriously the gap between the haves and have nots is so huge and educations is only available to army ass##### and not the general public.  Instead of working on the infrastructure of the country we are more focused on having more guns than india.  It is time for the new generation to wake up and realize that if we don&#039;t do something now we might not have a pakistan tommorow we need new ideas.  we need to attract foreign investment.  Ever since my return from pakistan I can think of nothing else but pakistan and how to make the lives of the everyday people better in the country.  Why do we keep electing people who have their bank accounts in other countries and investments are made by these asses outside the country everyone just wants to steal from pakistan and no one wants to make it better. Please have a voice in the future of pakistan. rise up people and get some guts or atlease give someone else a chance instead of electing the same corrupt leaders back into the offices.  Electricity is not that hard to produce and distribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry people but all of you are only criticizing and complaining about the past and current governments which is not doing anyone any good.  Instead of complaining why can we the public of pakistan take the matters in our own hands and fix our country.  Load shedding is the biggest hurdle towards success of our country.  How can we move forward with technology or try to eliminate poverty from this country when there is no energy available.  Why is it that india can have huge amounts of investments from indians abroad as well as other governments when pakistan has the toughest import laws and rediculous tarrifs why are we the people of pakistan letting this go on and on.  I live in the US however I spent eight months in pakistan in 2008 and seriously the gap between the haves and have nots is so huge and educations is only available to army ass##### and not the general public.  Instead of working on the infrastructure of the country we are more focused on having more guns than india.  It is time for the new generation to wake up and realize that if we don&#8217;t do something now we might not have a pakistan tommorow we need new ideas.  we need to attract foreign investment.  Ever since my return from pakistan I can think of nothing else but pakistan and how to make the lives of the everyday people better in the country.  Why do we keep electing people who have their bank accounts in other countries and investments are made by these asses outside the country everyone just wants to steal from pakistan and no one wants to make it better. Please have a voice in the future of pakistan. rise up people and get some guts or atlease give someone else a chance instead of electing the same corrupt leaders back into the offices.  Electricity is not that hard to produce and distribute.</p>
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		<title>By: Samz</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144542</link>
		<dc:creator>Samz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.energybulletin.net/node/883

sab se pahle tou i believe kah current officials jhoot bol rahe hain coz inhoon nai khud aesa keya kiya hai kah jis se 2009 dec tak loadshedding khatam hojaye gi? they claim kah hum rentals plants laa rahe hain magar inhoon nai khud tou koi bhi installation start nahin ki? aur is news clip kah hisab se pata chalta hai kah last years main khuch plants lage hain jo 2009 aur 2010 main complete hongay jis ka credit current gov le li gi...aur 2nd baat kah yeh sab units full functional hi nahin hain its means kah loog ziada se ziada gass ya phir patrol ya diesel use kareen jis main is time gov patrol par about 30rs tax aur diesel par 20 rs tax le rahe hai!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/node/883" rel="nofollow">http://www.energybulletin.net/node/883</a></p>
<p>sab se pahle tou i believe kah current officials jhoot bol rahe hain coz inhoon nai khud aesa keya kiya hai kah jis se 2009 dec tak loadshedding khatam hojaye gi? they claim kah hum rentals plants laa rahe hain magar inhoon nai khud tou koi bhi installation start nahin ki? aur is news clip kah hisab se pata chalta hai kah last years main khuch plants lage hain jo 2009 aur 2010 main complete hongay jis ka credit current gov le li gi&#8230;aur 2nd baat kah yeh sab units full functional hi nahin hain its means kah loog ziada se ziada gass ya phir patrol ya diesel use kareen jis main is time gov patrol par about 30rs tax aur diesel par 20 rs tax le rahe hai!!</p>
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		<title>By: busybee</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144463</link>
		<dc:creator>busybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes I am very much satisfied with the performance of PPP Government and most horrorable Asif Zardari..... My dear countrymen as we are all Muslims and believe in life after death so these are the MOCK EXAMS for hell. We did witness heaven or atleast our great grand parents did so now you can be well aware or will have experience what hell is going to be like...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes I am very much satisfied with the performance of PPP Government and most horrorable Asif Zardari&#8230;.. My dear countrymen as we are all Muslims and believe in life after death so these are the MOCK EXAMS for hell. We did witness heaven or atleast our great grand parents did so now you can be well aware or will have experience what hell is going to be like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Of TK</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144421</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Of TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MTC: hahahaha! I&#039;m still laughing at the second video! I think you nailed the situation right there! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTC: hahahaha! I&#8217;m still laughing at the second video! I think you nailed the situation right there! <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144413</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peja

Skipping your medication, are you Peja? Naughty! Naughty!

You keep using the word &#039;pun&#039;. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I do not think it means what you think it means
&lt;/A&gt;

This is Peja and puns. Puns and Peja. &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8d1kIn4nl0&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WATCH IT. &lt;/A&gt;

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peja</p>
<p>Skipping your medication, are you Peja? Naughty! Naughty!</p>
<p>You keep using the word &#8216;pun&#8217;. <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk" rel="nofollow">I do not think it means what you think it means<br />
</a></p>
<p>This is Peja and puns. Puns and Peja. <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8d1kIn4nl0&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">WATCH IT. </a></p>
<p> <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pejamistri</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144367</link>
		<dc:creator>pejamistri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MTC
Wow .... what will happen to our Bum then if we used all our uraaanium for lighting the blub .... :) (pejapun intended)....

By the way we are talking here &quot;home grown solutions&quot; and not the solution is discovered/invented via &quot;biased analysis&quot; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MTC<br />
Wow &#8230;. what will happen to our Bum then if we used all our uraaanium for lighting the blub &#8230;. <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (pejapun intended)&#8230;.</p>
<p>By the way we are talking here &#8220;home grown solutions&#8221; and not the solution is discovered/invented via &#8220;biased analysis&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144362</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcvs_Tacitvs_Cicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slashdot article on distributed energy generation with smaller units installed at consumer premises. 


http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F05%2F1954234&amp;from=rss

Slashdot on Monday January 05, @03:59PM
=========================
&quot;The Star &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/561553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reports &lt;/A&gt;about a new power generation model using smaller distributed power generators located closer to the consumer. This saves money on power generation lines and creates an infrastructure that can be more easily expanded with smaller incremental steps, compared to bigger centralized power generation projects. The generators in line for this are green sources, but Hyperion Power Generation, NuScale, Adams Atomic Engines (and some other companies) are offering small nuclear reactors to plug into this type of infrastructure. The generator from Hyperion is about the size of a garden shed, and uses older technology that is not capable of creating nuclear warheads, and supposedly self-regulating so it won&#039;t go critical. They envision burying reactors near the consumers for 5-10 years, digging them back up and recycling them. Since they are so low maintenance and self-contained, they are calling them nuclear batteries.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slashdot article on distributed energy generation with smaller units installed at consumer premises. </p>
<p><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F05%2F1954234&#038;from=rss" rel="nofollow">http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F05%2F1954234&#038;from=rss</a></p>
<p>Slashdot on Monday January 05, @03:59PM<br />
=========================<br />
&#8220;The Star <a HREF="http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/561553" rel="nofollow">reports </a>about a new power generation model using smaller distributed power generators located closer to the consumer. This saves money on power generation lines and creates an infrastructure that can be more easily expanded with smaller incremental steps, compared to bigger centralized power generation projects. The generators in line for this are green sources, but Hyperion Power Generation, NuScale, Adams Atomic Engines (and some other companies) are offering small nuclear reactors to plug into this type of infrastructure. The generator from Hyperion is about the size of a garden shed, and uses older technology that is not capable of creating nuclear warheads, and supposedly self-regulating so it won&#8217;t go critical. They envision burying reactors near the consumers for 5-10 years, digging them back up and recycling them. Since they are so low maintenance and self-contained, they are calling them nuclear batteries.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: piyariawam</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/01/02/discuss-energy-crisis/#comment-144286</link>
		<dc:creator>piyariawam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember this picture, when u think u can shake hands with a white man.
you might as well say good by to ur hand.

even if you are secular and not a islamist.

http://www.horsesass.org/downloads/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg

they are after ur natural resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember this picture, when u think u can shake hands with a white man.<br />
you might as well say good by to ur hand.</p>
<p>even if you are secular and not a islamist.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.horsesass.org/downloads/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.horsesass.org/downloads/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg</a></p>
<p>they are after ur natural resources.</p>
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