Tell us how a leader say like IK will come in power.

Its a direct contradiction to democracy, failure of state & failure of dilvering by crooked gernails & the puppets raised in their corridorz are entirely two different things.

Democracy is not with NS, CV (Converted bhutto), or IK but with WE(including me & u).

So writing in favor or against any one of them for watsoever reason is not going against democracy but promoting democracy, giving ourselves to think & express too wat we feel abt the leaders in the field.

Democratic norms don’t need NS, CV or IK but they do need democratic norms in order to lead.

Un democratic, dictatorial and uncivilized solutions are not welcome.

Educated need to be really educated ather than giving PHd

If some one can question any political leader on this forum, why not ask PTI leadership.

I dont care if A B or c i sgoverning this country.

My concern is country should be governed as it should be.
I wish ther e is no civil war. If a new leader can prevent this , he or she is welcome, if coming through democratic and legal way, not through a judge or jurnail

Why don’t we think of the new leadership?

why we have restricted our thinking only abt these dishonest & cheaters.

Start talking & discussing abt those who are doing something or willing to do. Bring new people on board, highlight the “FOR HIRE” discuss him & the others like him.

A little blurb on this to support your claim will be much appreciated!

Will Imran Khan be elected as party chief through a party delegate convention sent from all organizational units of the party throughout the country?

much appreciated!

We are so used to bowing to authority that it doesn’t seem odd to us that the same family (Bhutto’s, Sharifs etc.) is leading a ‘democratic’ political party through decades of ‘struggle’. This phenonmenon is present elsewhere to some extent, ie; Gandhis and Mujibs in other parts of subcontinent.

But I think that a political party is not as simple a unit of organization as a family unit in Pakistan. A party has leadership, it has manifestos, it has membership and has certain goals to achieve.

A political party, especially the one that espouses democratic principles, has it incumbant upon her to ‘walk the walk’ as it were by internalizing and following the very same practices it wishes to bring about in the society at large.

I think our political parties, instead of eliminating the obedience to ‘dictatorial behaviours’, actually feed upon such blind-followership engendered in their members by the family unit because the members are drawn from the same society and are therefore susceptible and vulnerable to such exploitation.

So, the onus is on a Political Party to make sure it doesn’t act like the ‘lowest common denominator’ of a ‘family unit’ but rises above it and educates its members, and through their educated behaviour the population at large.

The education system also will help in this regard with the right kind of syllabuses and well-trained teachers especially civics …Actually, we don’t have that subject anymore… we have munh-kala pakistan which only serves to jingoize and indoctrinate students, but in the long run the behaviour patterns it fosters are lethal for our nation.

You are right about Internal democracy in parties.

But dont you think , this should start at evry social unit, which ofcourse is a single family unit. Which is run by a mini dictator.

Change has to start from micro level and also political parties should start elections from grass root leading to the top.

Wishing a saad rafiq leading PMLN or raza rabbani leading PPP

YOU are dead wrong about talat hussain, which because of sheer ignorance, you called talat masood.

Did you watched yesterday live with talat?
I hope you will watch it know and see , how he demolished AZ, NS, AYW, MQM and talked about responsibility of govt regarding human requirements.

I have to agree about hamid mir and kamran khan. Specially i would say hamid mir has dissappointed alot by being too soft .

Kashif abbassi need to read alot t take on people like haqqani.

Regarding rural population you should not use below the belt remarks. They are not JAHIL AWAM.

Getting MA BA, MSC PHD does not mean educated. We have so many jahils on this forum , who claim to be Phd , DOCTORS, Engineers computer wizard. But when they talk , they are rubish and worse than illeterate person.

JAHLIAT is state of mind , which has nothing to do with education.

We have very educated JAHIL technocrats, lawyers.

Point is education plus social awareness and better family values.

I agree that 90% media is sold.

Mr zardari, sharif, asfand yar wali and altaf should take seriously the govt and issues related to the human requirements, other wise a civil war is highly expected.

Good luck for our country.