A bhattha khor, who used to extort shopkeepers & transporters, and also belonged to a political party got arrested by police in Karachi. After his arrest, a large crowd of political supporters of that party surrounded the Police Station and demanded the release of their fellow worker.
He must be from MQM. This is the real picture of MQM Karachi
This terrorist organization is responsible for thousands of murders, they killed innocent lawyers who were against them by burning them alive. They will do the same again if anyone from them was arrested. We do need a grand operation cleanup against this Bhatta Force. Altaf Kalia who is against Pakistan and works for Indian agencies should be brougth back to Pakistan by involving Interpol and must be hanged for killing thousands of civilians. A court in Canada has already declared MQM a terror organization.
@ safshan
Which court declared this? MQM never did anything like this, could you give some proof, or you just fond of make criticism.
@ qamar raza
Just to let you know,last year i was there on may 12,07 and i personally have seen what went through on the streets.I was witness myself.
I saw Mr Rizwi beaing up the policeman myself.
The real problem is within us as a nation. We are corrupt and conspiracy nation.
If police arrested a person and he is from political party than why it is not mentioned in the newspaper?????????…….who gave this report,?which police officer caught the person, ?and which party he is belong to ?must comes in the newspaper.
They all are courrupted and all are doing illegal work.
I was surprised to see Luckman show where this idiot Mother F….. Luckman was talking about launching an FIR against Iftikhar Mohd Chaudhry for 12th May killings. This is the same Luckman who supported Chief Justice initially and now he is opposing him and the punjab Govt. he is the same person who was appointed minister in interim Govt. Yeh zameer farosh journalist is a strongly in favor of MQM lagta hay MQM nay ussay khareed liya hay. Aaj tuk jin logon nay murders kiye hain unki FIR par is ghatia insan nay itna shoor nahin kia jitna CJ par FIR launch karnay par emphasis kar raha hay aisay log hain jinhoon nay journalism ko budnam kia hoa hay ppl like Ansar Abbasi aur Kashif Abbasi jaisay journalists jinka agenda totally national interest hay. I pray for both Allah in donon ko apni Ammaan main rakhay aur Luckman jaisay zameer farosh aur mulk kay dushman journalist ko barbaad karay ameen…….
@ QAMAR RAZA
Sorry to say bro, but which court you are talking about, r u talking about the judiciary whose lawyers were burnt alive in karachi, yehi tou almiyaa hai… Kon awaaz uthaaye against MQM’s (doesnt represent all urdu-speaking community of khi) ‘s zulm’ zabardasti, media..! huh..! woh AAJ tv jis ne MQM k zulm ko expose kerne ki koshish ki tou AAJ tv karachi was surrounded(assulted),threatened by MQM’s armed-men, ask me i have witnessed the popularity of shareef insaan like Niamatullah khan (no matter wat party he belongs to), an ex-city nazim was taken away by the shear support of musharaff in getting MQM back by rigging in election…. by the way niamatullah is also urdu-speaking guy… Imran khan also tried n we all know wat had happened to him afterwards…
Being born and raised in karachi and having seen all the brutal attrocities of MQM from killing of innocents to bhatta-khori of Altaf’s team, from murders of harmless great assets of pakistan be it political or social worker etc like Late-Hakeem-Saeed or many others even good politicians from MQM itself, from exploitation of already agrieved(quota-sytem) urdu speaking(mohajir-people) who voted him in early 90’s cuz that was the only common platform available for them to raise their voices for rights being the most educated community of pakistan, from changing its abbreviation to Mutahiddah-Qaumi-Movement to further exploit some of the political gains like clearing the blame of it being ethinic party to national party, from forceful collection of qurbaani ki khaalein on every eid-ul-azha to the forceful chanda collection of muharam-haleems, from introduction of political violence in educational institutes to the introduction of arms in them specially colleges/universities, from forceful induction of students into their unions to allocation of good grades to them (by putting pistol on teachers head), from making them feel boastful of powers to the misteriously killing them after use, from chalking on the walls “jo quaid ka ghadaar..maut kaa haq-daar” to the dirtiest “imran-khan zaani..” , from attrocities of 12 oct to putting ban on imran khan from entering karachi etc … etc etc
from the bending and bowing of most powerful men of their times like musharraf and zardari infront of Altaf hussain in london/9-zero for their political gains to the cautious and timid tone of so called unbiased media/print in saying anything bad/critical of altaf-hussain e.g geo-program “hum sab umeed se hain” never seen them making caricatures of altaf hussain in that programme and if they could put his telephonic(dramay-waalay) as part of daily news or his farman on daily issues and if they think him so important political figure why dont they send iftikhar host of jawab-deh to london to take his interview in typical acrimonious tone, the way he does with other BIG people, like the way he did with shahid masood who he thought betrayed with his profession and geo(although everyone should be forgiven if feels bad or regretful for committing bad)… and apart from AAJ-TV and talat hussain’s team who were trying to tell truths about MQM’s attrocities on that unfortunate day for which they had to pay price eventually. etc etcc
I am abit disappointed on the role of media in this regard, if they are sachay pakistanis i have only one question, if you all have seen that address of altaf hussain in india, and if media people have some imaan ki rathi there should be a critical analysis of that taqreer of him in every talk show of all channels and consensus should be established whether or not altaf hussain should be allowed to head any political party in pakistan rather whether or not he should still be given any part/previliges of pakistani nationality.
inshort seeing everybody bending infront of devil like altaf hussain even our powerful media, i found only one person who spoke logically and sensibly against his evil acts despite altaf hussains worst(ghattiya) campaign against him to curb and stop him by sending his cheap leaders like babar-ghauri on talk shows to raise cheap questions and even showing pictures of that girl on tv and saying “yeh dekhein shakal bhi milti hai iss bachi ki” cant be worst and cheapster.. should have been sued for(belittling) for saying anything on media which had not been poven in court by then with or without the help of medical technology.
well this was just MQM aspect of imran khan(apart from his leadership and intellectual abilities), and his composure against those frightening and evil team of altaf.
Imran khan is my hero, he is the lion heart, i know its long way for him and for us (since traditionally our politics as is said “shareef insaan kay bass ki baat nahein”), all i want to say is that yes everybody is praising him and have our hopes in him, but the best way to bring change in through out right of vote..
all the best imran khan, cuz surely seems to be the last hope for my beloved pakistan
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
why people living in karachi should complain because they are ruled by best myer of world
the have party eho is against wadaras this party always won by fair election? their leaders
live hard life away from home country where its not easy to live one week without job.
this party never support dictators only generls, i dont know y people complain about
roads, dirtyness, electicity, law and order .please give chance only five years karachi will
beat best cities only let once MQM rule karachi then u will see………….because they never
had chance i.e 20 years not enough for one citiy
correction they have party who is againt wadaras (dont bring president election in mind
that was qomi mufad)
and I agree that MQM in it early days got overwehlming support from most of the urdu-speaking community of karachi and hyderabad in specific mainly because of the fact that they been long aggrieved specially because of the Quota-System which had deprived them of getting fair opportunities in educational institutes and job-sector, although they were known to be the most educated community of pakistan. since MQM(mohajir qaumi movement) was the only hope n common platform for them to turn to for their struggle to get their just rights. but unfortunately the pioneer of that party was somebody like Altaf hussain BHAIIII..
But if u ask common man of karachi now that how he feels about izzat-maab-Altaf bhai, u will get the same kind of feelings as are mine (as long as if u ask him in private ‘n not in public), bhai sab ko apni jaan piyaari hai naa..huh..!
ofcourse seeing him doing taqreer in such melodious and filmyways…. any educated, sensible and decent man will think thousand times b4 giving his precious vote to Izzat-Maab-baa-adab-baa-mulaahiza Altaf bhai.
waisay sunna hai Altaf bhai weaps/crys/mourns very deeps…. bohat naram dil hai naa unn kaa….
by the way, is he the best/only choice of the people from the most educated city of pakistan…(mini-newyork)
certainly NOT..!
hope someday fair n free elections are held when people go out to vote someone educated(presentable), and of character n virtue….. and not scared of guns around them…..
and hope someday Army generals(Zia-ul-haq, Musharraf etc) do not help rigging to raise somebody like Altaf hussain to help their political gains…
@ rajaahmad
you said:
“their leaders live hard life away from home country where its not easy to live one week without job”
hahahahahaha…. wah wah….! kon si mehnat mazdoori.. kar rahay hain hamaray Altaf bhai London mein..! lol … i also live in london… aap zara batayein tou k kon si chicken shop mein bartan dhou kay woh apnay ghar ka rent aur telephone kay bills pooray kartay hain… jo daily hours long telephonic khitaab kartay hain woh…..kitna hard time guzaar rahay hain… UK mein pardes mein reh kay apnon se dur unn ko rozaana yaad sataati hai…telephone pe telephone kertay hain apni ghareeb (mazloom) awaam se….kitna dard hai naa unn kay dil mein.. apnaon mein waapis kyun nahein aajaatay karachi mein…. waisay bhi un ki apni hakoomat hai naa karachi mein aur governor bhi apna hai…. dar lagta hai yaa apnon hi pe aitebaar nahein..!
you have rather made my argument easier k kahan se itnay paisay aarahein hain jis ki bunyaad pe Altaf hussain itni lavish zindagi dunyaa kay most expensive city mein guzaar rahay hain….
monthly basis pe har business-man be it small or big industrialist, retailer or hotel-waala… is bound to pay SECTOR-INCHARGE of that specific area a handsome amount as BHATTA…. apart from the commission that they get from contracts(like bridge-construction etc)…. n this amounts to millions of rupees…(btw i ve seen bhatta being collected from one of my relative’s shop…by force)……..
inshort he is sleeping-partner of every small to big businessman’s income specially based in karachi….
@ Allah_kay_banday
I 100% agree with ur perfect analysis of this Terrorist organization, I personally never consider them as a political party, what do u call for some organisation who came into existance on ethnic issue, we never heard of any torture cells before the existance of MQM whoever disagree gets the worst kind of torture and killed and thron in a bori, they are all power hungry. The MQM leaders always babble around saying hamaray 15000 workers ko qatal kia gaya , I want to ask all the spporters of MQM woh konsi party thi jis nay inkay khilaf operation kia tha woh kon tha jis nay inki maya mari hoi thi (Naseerullah Baber PPP) aaj unki godh main kion baithay ministry enjoy kar rahay hain
Talk shows par baith kar in kay leaders NS ko army ki baqiyat kehtay hain without realising kay in ki apni formation kia hay MQM was formed by Gen Zia in order to break PPP’s majority in Sindh jo baad main hadi ki tarhan sub kay galay main phans gai. Hamara masla sirf itna hay kay hum log maazi ko bohut jalday hain kay kis tarhan khi ko urghamal banaya hoa hay. I remember jub Karachi main MQM strike call dia karti thi tu sub say ziada tabahi unloogon par hi aati thi jo in ko support kartay thy yani central main rest of the karachi normal rehta tha why????????????????????
@rajaahmad
2008 kay election main kitni fairness thi aap khud andazza karlien meray driver kay bhai nay 45 votes dalay thy this is only one incident jo main quote kar raha hoo hundred an dthousands of incident aisay hi hoi hain jinka zikar media par ANP kay leaders bhi kar chukay hain rahi baat best mayor ki tu bhai yeh sub false propaganda hay jis ki MQM mahir hay reality kya hay everybody knows all i need to bring ur attention towards electricity bills MQM nay bohut properganda kia tha bill kay tariff main increase par we karachi ppl are paying the highest tariff in pakistan kia kar rahi hay MQM is hawalay say 2 months bohut shoor hoa tha aur sub kay bills 40% reduce karwa kay bohut khush hogai thy next month main woh sub arrears kay sath lug kar agai thy n we didnt had any option but to pay
@ Qamar Raza
http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031
Proof enough?
the real good news will be when the ‘chief bhatta collector’ gets arrested in london….that will be the headline news…………………i suppose an opportunity was missed last year when a lot of evidence was wasted because of incompetent handling of the affair by dare i say IK
@rafay 79,
Their are 2 MQM…… Mutahida quami movement and Muhajir quami movement. Which MQM you are talking about.??
I wonder if Canadian court gives verdict aganist MQM than why Pakistani Court cannot give verdict aganist MQM .???
If your reply is that MQM will kill the judge if judge will give verdict aganist MQM, than why the judge is judge?
If your reply is that our court is not sincere than who is sincere?
Why are we impressed with western court? if western court said MQM is terrorist than western countries also said DO MORE…and kill Pakistanis…who is terrorist here???To whom we listen????
my friend rafay….think many times before proof something.
These Urdu speaking people are hijacked by Taffu & Co. The mohajars created Pakistan. I know they are the most peaceful people of Pakistan.
Taffu is afraid of coming to Pakistan because , he is afraid of his own people.
@ Allah_kay-banday yaar tanz karna tha so kar dia……
u know i know how hard it is all my previous post is actually full of tanz on MQM i am
proud supporter of one and only honest person in politics I K who already delivered
on welfare front a lot for us because maza to tab hai awan ko kuch do without get into
power.
What is “sachal” police? Is this the opposite of “haq parast” police?
Why the FFFF can’t pakistani media act less like morons and more like real media and report properly?
Here is a lesson: “The Five W’s of Journalism:
* Who?
* What?
* Where?
* When?
* Why?
* How?
“
YOU’RE WELCOME!
Notwithstanding that MQM is the champion of bhatta khori….
the arrested guy did not belong to MQM but to another ethnic organization.
MQM’s bhatta khors cannot be arrested by the police while MQM is in government….
I am amazed to see such a childish post, anywayz Karachi is a city of more then 20 million people and every single political religious party or group can be found in karachi.
Sachal Police station mostly covers areas of non urdu speaking population but as most of the people here dont even know about karachi and its demography they start hurling abuse on MQM with out any proof just because they hate MQM and don’t like urdu speaking people.
Jabbar BARFAT ( i guess most of the people here also don’t even know that Barfat is not a cast of Urdu speaks) belong from an ethnic sindhi organization.
I invite all of you to karachi, come to karachi go to different areas of karachi ask people they like MQM or not and what you will get will enlight your brians :0).
Keep writing baseless fazool articles against MQM as people of karachi knows who are there real enemies.
http://sirfkarachi.blogspot.com/2009/02/why-people-of-smaller-porvinces-hate.html
@kurkusismic (or whatever ur name is)
You must have been in a coma or something when Muhajir Qaumi Movement became Muttahida Qaumi Movement in 1992.
Good job on ur recovery then. Unfortunately it seems to have affected your eye sight and u didn’t read the words ‘’Muttahida Quami Movement’’ in the link I posted.
On to the courts, again since you have just woken up, let me give you a brief lowdown. If you read the papers and watch the TV, you will find that loads of people are talking about an independent judiciary. That’s not because they have nothing to talk about but some of us, albeit with alleged vested interests, are advocating free judiciary. The potential benefits from it is something we as a nation have only started to realise over the last couple of years.
See the point is that the courts which could convict Ch. Zahoor Elahi on ‘’bhains chori’’ and allow Farah Dogar’s extra marks tells me they are under the influence of the powers that run things around here.
BTW, do you know we have a new law called the NRO? Just search for the number of MQM cases which have been taken back because of it. And also, since MQM sides with whoever is in power under ‘’vasee tarr qomi mufaad’’, they will never be put to justice in Pakistan.
The reason we are impressed by the western courts is because they treat everyone as equal under the law, irrespective of who is in power.
The last thing you wrote just killed it man….so the decision of the western COURTS (in Canada) is wrong because western COUNTRIES (USA) tells us to do more.
Sadqay waari jaaone is pyaari misaal pay! Chaa gaye ho bhai!
My friend kurkusismic (or whatever ur name is), read many times before posting something and think whether it makes any sense cos this one certainly didn’t.
Was a good laugh though. Ill give you that.
@khaled
- ‘I invite all of you to karachi’
did you have ‘bori main lash’ strategy for all pkpolitics visitors?
@ Malek
lol… Very well said bro:
This is the true face of this terrorist organization. Any one talk against them and next day his “bori band lash” will be found on some street. Hats off to people like Shaheed Mohammad Salahuddin of Takbeer and Hakeem Saeed (who were murdered by this terror organization for supporting TRUTH). People of Karachi are sick of this terror. Because of this bhatta force thousands of well-to-do Pakistanis have left the city to Gulf countries most of them are either Urdu speaking or Memon bradari.
Altaf Hussain is a traitor, he openly talks against Pakistan, many of MQM ex-workers have told me (My parents also migrated from UP in 1947, but I will never ever call myself as MOHAJIR, I am only Pakistani) Billions of rupees goes to England from Bhatta collected by this separatist group, they have designated cells called TOSHA KHANA in their language where all the mobiles phones, jewelry and other merchandise snatched from public including motor cycles and cars goes. Then those are sold and all the money goes to secret MQM funds which ultimately lands in the hand of Altaf Kalia. Similarly they have trained ghundas to collect bhatta from each and every locality. Only in 2008 more then 250 people were killed by this ghunda force for resisting either robbery or bhatta.
Karachi city is a symbol of peace nowadays, city of more than 18 million ppl and lowered the crime rate is a big acheivement as compare to other part of the country.
I am thankful to the admin of this group who riased this small issue of the biggest city and ask ppl of Pakistan to give thier hatred comments against the ppl of Karachi.
By the way “HAMAS” is also considered by Canadian courts as “terrorist Organization”. Which for us is hard to believe.
Canadian courts have no problem with Israeli attrocities committed on unarmed innocent Paletinians…..
Typically MQM method of collecting funds to be sent to England head office
with 40 people on pay roll in U.K.
@ khaled
you said:
“start hurling abuse on MQM with out any proof just because they hate MQM and don’t like
urdu speaking people”.
hey… this is how you(altaf’s team) play cleverly….Plzzzzzzzzzz don’t try to associate whole
urdu-speaking community as your property(creation)..
and dont try to earn their sympathies for yourself….
people here people are saying bad(truth) about MQM(altaf’s team) and not Urdu-speaking…
“MQM and Urdu-speaking community are 02 different things”
while YES urdu-speaking is still the most educated n peaceful community, n they prefer
books in hands rather than arms as opposed to MQM(Altaf’s team)
so i would appreciate if you plz not mix the both, thank u
@ Allah_kay_banday
I totally agree with you brother. I am Urdu speaking and so are millions of other patriotic Pakistanis who love Pakistan and hate MQM. Why? Because this terror group was created by agencies, Zia’s time because of the popularity of PPP in rural Sind. At one time Karachi was the city with most young educated people. I remember roaming around with my friends till very late at night without any fear. There was so hustle and bustle and this was called city of lights. Now you will be robed in front of your home by these ghunda forces and only one movement will put you to death. Altaf Kalia started movement to arm people with Ak47 and took out pen from their hands, result is what we have criminals as leaders with more then 100 murders on their heads. Both Governor Sind and City Nazim are notorious absconders and hard core criminals.
@ areeza
areeza said:
“I am thankful to the admin of this group who riased this small issue of the biggest city and ask ppl of Pakistan to give thier hatred comments against the ppl of Karachi.”
May I have the honour to correct u plz;
(1) Its not hatred against ppl of karachi, rather grievences(dukh-dard) of the ppl of karachi against the zulm-zabardasti of MQM. because karachi is the heart of pakistan and we love karachi and its ppl. and it comprises of all communities of pakistan including urdu-speaking, memon, bohri, agha-khani, kachi, punjabi, sindhi, pathan, balochi etc etc and all of them have come to karachi to earn better livelihood for their families and in return contributing to the economy of pakistan and almost all of them are tired(suffering) of paying BHATTA to MQM every month from their haq-halal kay hard-earned-money. And these communities have been living together since creation of pakistan untill late 80′s and early 90′s.
(2)And regarding the “sarcastic-thanks” that u showered on ADMIN-PK for highlighting this so called small issue….. yes i would also like to extend my “genuine-thanks” to PK-POLITICS that they have highlighted issue of common-man of pakistan and given us a chance to show our concerns on this forum… where after writing all these greivences of mine atleast MQM will not be able to make a bori-ki-laash of me.
why i am happy because:
every TV channels has openly criticized almost every politician on all tv channels and tried to bring the true pictures of them infront of awaam(common ppl) but they couldnt criticize the most concerned issue of Altaf hussain(MQM) merely because every one is so terrorized of his brutalities…
hamein(awam) ko Musharaf, nawaz-shareef, zardari, chaudry’s etc etc sab kay baarein mein haqaaiq kaafi had takk mil jaatay hain tv pe.. magar none against ALTAF HUSSAIN.. and we all know why….
GEO ka program “hum sab umeed se hain” makes caricatures of all except ALTAF….
JAWAB-DEH mein iftikhar sabb ko karak sawal kar chukkay hain to give us true picture except ALTAf…..
so aisey halaat mein jab sab ALTAF hussain se dartay hain… to atleast hum awaam khud uss ki jawaab-dehi to kar saktein hain through a forum like this(pk-politics)
@rafay
I am crying at your answer. what a pathetic answer you gave. are you really Pakistani? Pakistani are very smart they give very reasonable answers to any question.Seems like you are very angry man.You attacked personally on me more rather than give answer on the subject.
Please keep on laughing, because i see lot of tension in you.I am glad i make you laugh.:)
The person like you cannot see my name properly, how can answer my question properly.:)
Laugh my friend laugh.
go cry yourself to sleep boy!!
@ rafay
go cry yourself to sleep boy!! what a english…………
ha ha ha ha ha
1. It should be ‘an’ english actually as the letter ‘e’ is a vowel. Still wouldnt be right though.
2. Looking at your previous posts:
”I wonder if Canadian court gives verdict aganist MQM than why Pakistani Court cannot give verdict aganist MQM .???”
the full stop should not be inserted when a sentence ends with a question mark.
The word should have been ‘then’ not ‘than’.
”think many times before proof something.”
that is just an incorrect sentence. whichever way you look at it.
”Pakistani are very smart they give very reasonable answers”
That should be Pakistanis given the use of are and they.
3. See the point is, BOY, that you should probably look at your self before you pick on my english. The fact that it is based on a widely used expression which you dont seem to know about is ever more lame.
4. If ‘what a english’ is the best you can come up with instead of sticking to the topic, this is what ull get. Go on now! start crying about me attacking you.
5. Just to conclude, congratulations on spelling ‘ha’ correctly. Well done!!
When we will learn to be Pakistanis and forget over language, athencity and sectarian divids?
Its only the opportunist politicians and extarnal enemies who are hell bent in their efforts
to control and break up Pakistan.We should stand up and help people who want to get rid of Gadi nashins, kry kee tatoo army and justice- for- money walas.
How that MQM came to so much power? Was it exploited by some dictators? Was it the result of favoritism? Was it the result of dominating on a majority against their wishes? Was it the job quotas created by the corrupt administration? Was it the corruption and dominance by one section of people on others? There are so many questions to it.
No human being will tolerate that their rights are taken away and treated like a piece of dirt. In Pakistan it is not only the province of Sind where the poors are treated like animals but the entire country suffers from that. In Sind the damn Vaderas, the faked Pirs and the Maqdooms dominated upon the poor. In Punjab the Zamidars did the same. In Baluchistan the Sardars had their tribes and followers. The Damn Sardar could sleep with any woman of his tribe. Pathans in the Frontier had a different culture where justice was in the form of self pride. You kill me, my brother will kill you. Excluding the cities the villages has no facility. Before the fall of East Pakistan, West Pakistan used to live on the earning of the East. The Foreign exchange earning from East Pakistan was 87% as compared to 13 % of the West. But the economic development was far more in West Pakistan as compared to East Pakistan. Head Quarters of the State Bank and other Commercial Banks, PIA, Mangla and Tarbela damns, the shifting of Capital from Karachi to Islamabad (at the cost of trillion of dollars from the current standard), the textile mills and other manufacturing units were in West Pakistan.
After the fall of East Pakistan, the rulers and their corrupt administration in the West had no option left but to cheat upon themselves. Through the quota system they had the administration in cities like Karachi and Hyderabad controlled by people from other parts of Pakistan. Alike the British ruled India, these corrupt officials ruled on the refugee dominated city of Karachi. The transportation system was completely controlled by the Pathans. All the Police Stations were run by uneducated idiots from up country of Punjab. Everyone was scared to death to challenge any bus driver who would kill anyone on the road. They became so powerful that they were known as kings of the roads. The corrupt administration was simply interested in filling their purse with illegal money. That went out of control.
The people rose after a bus accident in which a girl student named Bushra Zaidi was killed. That was the start of the power of MQM. There was rioting and in the very next election after Zia-ul-Haque, MQM swept all over Karachi. The MQM learnt the culture of violence and murder from their rulers. Now they know that for their survival, it is necessary to pick up guns just as others picked up guns against them and none objected to that. They learnt that to survive in a country where there are the laws of the jungle, they have to become the tigers. They inherited the Kalashnikov culture. They were taught to be merciless against those who try to take away their rights. They learnt to take Bhatta from the corrupt Policemen who were sent from other provinces to raise their standard of living and rule on the poor’s. They were taught by the rulers to give bullshit to the slogan of Pakistan Zindabad and care for themselves. They were taught to defy all morality when it comes to their survival. They were forced by environment not to care about Pakistan but to care about themselves “FIRST”.
In a country of corruption, torture, cruelty, injustice from the President to his body guards, if one thinks that a non violence movement of Gandhi will work, he is sadly mistaken. The non violence works only against that group of people where one finds some justice and support against torture and cruelty.
MQM is a terrorist organization & that is the only one true because i m in CANADA and canadian supreme court declaired this organization as a terrorist we must need to take care of that infect the workers in MQM do not even work for them but theyhaveno rights to take themselves out of this terrorist organization & thatis truth.
MQM, Supreme Court of Canada and Terrorism
On February 24, 2006, upon a judicial review of an application from Iftikhar Shoaq Jalil, a Canadian federal court upheld the decision of an immigration officer that the applicant was inadmissible to Canada on the grounds that Iftikhar Shoaq Jalil was a member of an organization (the Mohajir Quami Movement – Altaf MQM-A) that there were reasonable grounds to believe engages, has engaged or will engage in acts of terrorism.
The judgment is against the admission of an MQM person to Canada and that MQM ENGAGES and WILL ENGAGE in TERRORISM. A similar judgement was given by another Canadian court against another MQM member, Mohammed Kashif Omer, in 2007.
It is literally incorrect to say that Canadian Supreme Court has declared MQM as a terrorist organization. However, since the federal court judgment has not been challenged in the Supreme Court of Canada, the judgment stands throughout the territory of Canada.
May be it is time for Altaf himself to re-test this judgment. Come and kiss your Candadian MQM “mayor”. In case the judgment is enforced, take it to the Canadian Supreme Court.
http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006fc246/2006fc246.html
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031&k=95690
http://www2.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6cy6QOrKes
@ faisal ahad
kindly send me the link where CANADIAN SUPREME COURT declares MQM as terrorist organization
@ Allah_kay_banday
MQM and Urdu speaking people are same thing which you people don’t want to accept, big urdu speaking dignitaries are part of MQM , the beloved poet Jamil uddin Aali (jevay Jevay Pakistan writer) is part of MQM , Fatima Suriyya Bajia, Anwar Maqsood and many others are all part of MQM so you can’t even imagine how much support MQM have on the ground and in Urdu Speaking community otherwise MQM would have been finished in 1992 -99 Army Operation.
@ Malek
from your comments it is quite clear that most even 99 % writers are not from Karachi so they know nothing about MQM , Karachi and Urdu speaking people just reading table stories and propaganda by People on payroll of ISI Hameed Gull faction so keep doing that, but in reality MQM and Urdu speaking people are One.
Khaled, here’s your link: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=c045bc85-f122-423e-bcad-8cc6f2f20031
Lets not pretend the MQM isnt a terrorist organization. Here’s the link to the Federal Court ruling that doubts Omer’s claim that MQM is not a terrorist organization.
Immigration Canada said it clearest when it discribed MQM as an “organization that has engaged in terrorism.”
OF COURSE! MQM is a terrorist group EXACTLY as the entire Police force in Pakistan is a terrorist group, EXACTLY as all other goverment departments in Pakistan are terrorists group, EXACTLY as the faked Pirs, the Vaderas, the Makdooms, the Zamidars and the Sardars in Pakistan are the terrorist group, EXACTLY as the Pakistan Army is a terrorist group, EXACTLY as the entire Justice system in Pakistan is a terrorist group, EXACTLY as those who fought and are fighting to free Afghanistan and Iraq from foreign occupation is a terrorist group, EXACTLY as the Hamas and the Hizbollah are fighting to free their land from the occupation of Zionists are terrorist group.
May be I left some, please add to my list……..
Pakistan Embassy Blacklists Scores of Expats in Athens -
Looks like another terrorist group of Pakistan on the horizon.
oh yeah you forgot to mention all the names of the people who have been murdered in Karachi by MQM since 1984.
May be a mention of the pregnant woman who’s stomachs for ripped apart and killing of unborn babies (orangi town 1995), May be a mention of countless young and old people in Karachi who’s bodies were cut by blades, and holes were drilled in their bodies, or burnt with cigarettes or….well I’ll let you fill in the rest..
Oh by the way don’t you dare come back yapping that all of the above or stories, because I have witnessed all the crimes you guys committed in the mid eighties in Karachi
Totally agree with you rebhos !
Tali ek hatth say nahi bajti hay. MQM has very well handled terrorists from other parts of Pakistan who come to Karachi & looted its wealth.
Also don’t forget the “Aligarh colony massacre in 1984/85.
Just dont pick up stories. Be fair & discuss all atrocities from both sides. Dosray koi farishtay nahi hein.
NObody in Pakistan is patriotic. Learn something from Indians. Unfortunately PUNJAB is the biggest province of Pakistan & therfore has to suffer a great deal due to injustices to other smaller provinces. Whereas lucky for India Punjab is the smallest province & therefore no dadda giri is tolerated. Therefore we see india on the path of progress & Pakistan on the path of destruction !!
@ KhalidAli
Yeah that’s the true face of this fascist organization. I also know such a family, migrated to Canada. Two young boys aged 23 and 27 were killed by the MQM workers in front of their family. They abducted those kids from outside, brought them into their home, told the family that they will face the same fate if tried to get justice and brutally killed them. Their mother died months after that after becoming psychic due to the cruelty of the crime. Both young boys were actually MQM workers but their crime was that they had left the organization and had knowledge of heinous crimes committed by their co-workers. Aamir Liaqat Hussain of Alim Online is another example. After leaving the MQM he is being harassed continuously, just like Munir Malik for talking against them.
@rafey
Seems, you did not get any job in school as a english teacher. you are taking out your frustration in pk politics. teaching english language in pkpolitics. ha ha ha ha ha
poor you.
Next time i will not answer you back…because i cannot waste my time on s*** person like you.
I allow you to write be back…but dont expect any answer from me.
and just when i was starting to enjoy it. oh well, your english still sucks and so do you. allow me to write be back yet another idiotic sentence from an idiotic pea brained good for nothing piece of crap!
like i said munnay! you diverted the topic to english from cos you had the answer stuffed all the way up your backside. and guess what, this is no different.
I have to admit that chickening out was the best thing to do cos you used the last bit of common sense to realise you were getting a hammering so good job.
p.s.: u still crying? chalo ab aansoo saaf kar lo shabash! achay bachay roya nahee kartay.
khaled bhai says,
“MQM and Urdu speaking people are same thing.”
I disagree with u that MQM and urdu-speaking ppl are the same because:
1- I admit that its quite unfortunate of urdu-speaking ppl that they were blessed with Altaf hussain as head of MQM, which urdu-speaking ppl looked upon as the first and (unfortunately) the ONLY common platform to raise their voices against any unjust treatment with them(specially quota-system) as Altaf hussain did a good exploitation by using abbreviation MQM for “MOHAJIR”.
And lets be generous in saying that MOST of them might have voted him for first time with hope that he bring them representation in national/provincial assembly etc to safe-guard the rights of Urdu-speaking ppl and get them their due share in jobs/education in a peaceful democratic way by giving Altaf’s team an over-wehlming majority in karachi.
But none of them had thought of giving away their young sons to Altaf to take away books from their hands give them guns. And those urdu-speaking youngsters whose old parents had sent them in colleges/universities to become engineers/doctors, spent time in serving Altaf’s team and eventually when they tried to leave MQM, they were mysteriously murdered.
Do u think those urdu-speaking families ever wanted their young sons die infront of them like that, no they never did, those sons who they dreamt of career engineer/doctor even if managed to escape death, ended up becomming badmaash and living a life of hide n seek.
this is wat happened to the hopes of most educated urdu-speaking families of karachi.. and that was gift of Altaf hussain to them.
2) City of karachi, as far as i remember in my childhood, was a true city of light. Since the creation of pakistan all different ethnic communities had been living together peacefully(urdu-speaking, memon, bohri, agha-khani, sindhi, punjabi, pathan, balochi..etc etc) untill late 80′s when MQM came into existence.
3)achay khaasay parhay likhay loag hain karachi waalay, sensible aur decent, they cant have an ideal like Altaf hussain, i hope everybody must have heard him in his melodious way taqreer….choudry iftikharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…….kyun karachi aayayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy……. dekh liyyaa nateeejaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…….
touba touba.. astaghfaar…! aisa hamara leader nahein hosakta…. i have seen even few ppl from MQM upon watching and listening to his damaayi–sermons on tv, they literally were trying to hide thier faces in embarassment….
4)Altaf’s speech in INDIA…. says it all
5) His cheap ghattiya harkatein(girri huwi), doesnt make him an ideal of avery educated Urdu-speaking community…. btw i was watching a talk show of hamid mir in which BABaR ghauri was acting so cheap to show the pic of that small girl on tv and asking hamid mir k “dekhain iss bachi ki shakal IMran se milti hai na” in response to Imran khan’s questioning Altaf’s speech in INDIA
I would have appreciated if Altaf’s team had responded in educated way logically in their campaign to keep Imran quiet they took sahara of giri huwi harkatein… they cant be the representative of the MOST EDUCATED n decent community like urdu-speaking….
6)btw Niamatullah(ex-city nazim) is also urdu-speaking.. is he from MQM too…
7) and if u really think that MQM n urdu-speaking are same thing, can u plz ask ur dear leader altaf hussain to declare it openly that ur party is ethnic party, rather than opening different political offices in kashmir, punjab etc.. in an effort to expand their party national level.. can u tell them plz to declare in kashmir etc openly that wats the meaning of MQM..
Inshort i can go on in quoting brutalities of Altaf’s team(MQM)…. n that he and his team do not represent the whole of urdu-speaking community and they are not the same THING..
so plz dont try to mix them, here in this forum ppl are trying to show their hatred againsnt MQM n not karachi-ites or urdu-speakings.. dont mix them together to get the sympathies of urdu-speaking by making them feels as if these hatred posts are sent for them… no these posts are against MQM(Altaf’s team)
@ rebhos
I hope my above mentioned post answers u as well
@ rehbos bhai says,
“OF COURSE! MQM is a terrorist group EXACTLY as the Hamas and the Hizbollah are fighting to free their land from the occupation of Zionists”
meray pyaaray bhai plz dont compare MQM with Palestinians who r struggling against Zionists…
Palestinians r carrying weapons againsts Zionests……. while MQM is carrying weapons to rip the ppl of karachi off their haq-halal ki rozi and killing those who refuse to pay bhatta….
kahan Hammas/Hizbollah…… aur kahan MQM………
ALtaf hussain says:
” partition of sub-continent (i-e creation of pakistan) was the greatest blunder in the history of man”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgDJxhQngZo
every one is invited to watch this plz…
mankind*
is he a leader of a political party of “ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN”……!!!!!
considering that he questions pakistan’s creation itself…… considering that he manages to get British passport(courtesy a pakistani women)… living in UK….. WHO IS ALTAF HUSSAIN…????
pakistani political party ki leadership tou duur ki baat, does he even deserve to enjoy any previlege of nationality of pakistan….. who is he…? why is he allowed to do telephonic public speeches and incite the ppl of pakistan hence contributing to the increased unrest among ppl….
which nationality allows him to interfere in matters n that too political n very sensitive matters of an autonomous country…. (British or Pakistani nationality)…
kis mechanism thru woh aisa kar pata hai…. couldnt quite understand…..
or is he enjoying the grey area of this complex situaion… where pakistan government cant have hold of him being BRITISH national or British government cant snub him considering he has been very useful for rulers like Musharaf or Zardari in maintaining their government….
And it is generally accept phenomenon that jis kay paas authority hoti hai wohi accountable bhi hotta hai…. agar yeh pakistan ki awaam kay votes aur trust kaa custodian(amanat-daar) banta hai tou unn kay votes kay trust ko yeh kaise istamaal karta hai.. iss kaa accountable bhi ALtaf hussain banta hai…. mujhay yeh bataaein kay hum Altaf hussain se hisaab kaise lain…. PAkistani courts mein yaa British courts….
ALtaf hussain itna clear(saaf-sacha) hai.. tou apni jawab-dehi kyun nahein deta… courts mein ya media mein…
woh yeh openly declare kyun nahein kerta ka jis bhi TV channels ko mujh se sawaal karne hain woh karein …. mein interviewer ko qatal(murder) nahein karwaaon gaa.. dont be scared.. .. i am ready for any questions to clear myself infront of awaam… cuz i am paak-daaman
yeh kaisa system hai… k ruling aur farmaan jaari karne k liyay woh london mein baitha hai aur hum uss se hisaab bhi nahein lay saktay…
management/responsiblity jis ko di jaatai hai.. uss hi ki accountability bhi hoti hai…
aur rahi baat k nawaz-shareef, bhutto, q-league (i agree they r not farishtay)etc etc jo bhi agar fauji generals ka product hain…(as rehbos & khaled said) atleast woh sab accountability kay liyay pakistan mein availabale tou hai… be it courts or media…
Tv channels unn kay interview or hisaab bhi laitay hain… kis TV channel ko bori ki laash milli after interviewing them…
Posts of MQM sympathizers show how asinine their arguments are.
But what one can expect from dumb sheeps who would listen for hours to the nonsensical verbal diarrhea of the Cab driver from Chicago sitting in his plush offices of Edgeware Road, London.
We do see other examples of similar clowns and the dumb herd following them in Pakistan like Tahirul Qadri, Fazlur Rehman etc.
Please Report MQM atrocities at
http://www.mqmwatch.org/
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