l Shahbaz Press Conference – 3 March 2009 | Pakistan Politics
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  • srau said:

    this press conference should not have happened today……this was not the time to address accusations but to show solidarity and commitment to the country…..our leaders should rise above their personal agendas…..kabhi tow inhain apnay ilawa mulk ka bhi duukh ho……i am deeply disappointed in shahbaz sharif today

  • pakistanimunda said:

    srau… when are you gonna get disappointed at the current PPP Government? Security provided by the Punjab Government is what you should be disappointed at.

  • srau said:

    pakistanimunda
    one gets disappointed when one has some expectations……i am not disappointed in the ppp govt, i am disgusted by them…..as for shahbaz sharif i am sorry but i expected him to be a little better…guess not …hes just another politician

  • Brampton said:

    Shahbaz was putting his case today before peoples of Pkaistan who were horrified and shocked by Attcaks in Lahore…. This moron has nothing but his self ineterest important to him.
    TODAY was day to show politician solidarity with Govt of Pakistan, but unfortunately like Chaudhry Nisar, Shabaz has also proved they are no-less scumbags like ZARDARI DAKU.

    SHAME ON ALL WHO:
    USED THIS BLACK-DAY OF ATTACK ON SL TEAM TO GAIN POLTICAL MILEAGE

    We all hope that govt. will not be stupid like they were on bombay attack and will come-forward with real facts and identify the name even if invloves RAW’s agents BN without any hiding any truth because PPP is supported by Baloch in Baluchistan and Lyari

  • rasheed said:

    @Brampton,

    I don’t know how you prioritize things, but the attack on Sri Lankan team is a much smaller event than the depriving 65% of Pakistani Nation from their rights.

    Today’s attack was a direct consequence of the Kanjar Raaj that was imposed and the leaders have to target the root cause otherwise nothing will change.

    From last several years, we have daily missile attacks, drone attacks, suicide attacks, and if everyone was mourning on daily basis on these attacks, then we would not be able to fix the foundations of country, which are Judiciary, Executive and Legislation.

    Right now, all 3 are missing and our first priority is to fix the foundation, otherwise everything will get worse and the future of Pakistan will be in doubt.

  • qabil50 said:

    Press conference by Mr Shahbaz Sharif was appropriate and timely. We the people of Pakistan appreciate and thank him for bringing out the truth. Today is a sad day in the history of Pakistan when Sirilankan Cricket team was attacked by the terrorist. Many precious lives were lost and some of the guests members of visiting cricket teams were injured. Our condolences are for the families of those who lost their lives and our sympaties for those who ere injured and for their familes.

    It was due to the lack of security provided to the visiting team by the current administeration of illegal governor raaj. We have this illegitimate govrnor who was illegally implated in the Punjab Province by then the illegitimate and self proclaimed military dictator for one special purpose, that is to destablise future Punjab government. This man- Taseer has left no stoned unturned to destroy the SS government. He finally succeeded in his mission, a few days back when by the order of Mr Zardari, he imposed illegal and udemocratic governor raaj and dissmised the duely elected government of Punjab. That was the brutal and the final asault on democracy in infancy.

    We fully agree with all the preconditions laid down by the chief minister Mr. SS for the negotion to start. Mr Zardari has lost his credibility and thus he is not trustable. He had lied repeated and he had brken his promises many time. He willfully had cheated Mr Nawaz Sharif and he had failed to abide by his signed contract in front of 170 millions Pakistanis. In my opinion Mr Zardari should be side lined and the negotiation should be undertaken between Nawaz Sharif and Prime minister Yusf Ali Gilani All the powers that are illegally retained by Mr Zardari must be transferred to the Parliament and negation must begin in the parliament with the Prime minister of Pakistan. Right now Mr Yusuf Raza Gilani is our rightful Prime minister and he must come out of the shadow of Mr Zardri. He must used all the powers given to him under our constitution to tackle the all the problems that are currently facing our Nation.

  • fz22 said:

    @saru:

    I think Shabaz Sharif’s press conference was the right thing at the right time. He laid out their interest in reconciliation, national solidarity and commitment to democracy. Unlike other parties that believe in under the table dealings and back channel diplomacy, he laid out the points that are going to be discussed for reconcialatory negotiations. Its the right of the voters to KNOW how their elected representatives serve and advance the people’s interests.

    Secondly, Shahbaz has shown he’s better than the Governor as he has not labeled any personal accusations and has merely replied to the accusations made against him. If you didnt like that, I guess you wouldnt like to know that’s the way of the Prophet (PBUH) and his followers and Khulafa, anyone can raise a queation on anything to a public official, even about the clothes on his back and the official HAS to respond! You’l probably not care about hadith or Quran like Zardari.

    Geo has done an excellent job of censoring Shahbaz’s reply to the accusations, as they have never played the whole reply to all the points, yet they have played the accusations of the governor over and over. Geo and Jang are traditionally anti-Sharif’s and it shows. They’ll just show things that disgrace the Sharif’s.

    @Brampton:

    It is a fact, now verified by the media, that there was concrete intelligence on these attacks well in advance acting on which Shahbaz had ordered hightened security promplty. But the governor rule dismanteled the security infrastructure in place in Punjab creating the opportunity for this disaster. Governor rule should have stopped at the CM, why did they have to remove the IG, and other security officials ? What had they done wrong. It is the governors incompetence & political bias that made it a priority for him to politicise the police force rather than ensuring law and order, in other words, it was not merit that was the criteria for the new postings rather it was political affiliation, which always ends in disaster for the country. There is no charge sheet against those security officials who were removed so why were they removed. It was a political blunder, criminal negligence of the intelligence reports and the sole responsibility lies on the PPP and the governor. A goverment is suppose to ensure the safety of the people!

  • srau said:

    my my……the thing is nobodys saying dnt blame the govt …ofcoarse nobodys blaming shahbaz for the unfortunate incident but yesterday was just not the right day or right time[ few hrs after the incident] to explain his own position…he could have done it today and i wouldnt have a problem with that….but i didnt want him scoring political points when pakistan was going through a very tough time…its my opinion and i am angry about it ….you all are entitled to your own opinions….and let me just say this everybody who criticizes pmln is not necessarily a ppp supporter….some of us are just pakistans supporters and will speak against whoever we feel did wrong…..and let me also say that lets not bring religion in the matters of politics and that also pakistani politics…..criticizing shahbaz doesnt make me zardari and getting political mileage out of an unfortunate incident doesnt make shahbaz a true follower of islam….lets all keep things in perspective….pakistan has an educated class also who do understand and their loyalties are with pakistan and not with shahbaz or zardari…..

  • fz22 said:

    @saru:

    There were accusations and he responded, the key word here is RESPONDED, as any decent self respecting person would, where is the political mileage ?

    He didnt blame the Governor for the incident, He did not show the intelligence reports, he did not level personal accusations of what the governor does or how much he spends, he did not mention how much the ‘Governor House’ costs every month or year.

    Let me remind you that it was a journalist Ansar Abbasi who showed the intelligence reports and reported on the Governor’s criminal negligence. So, if journalists demand an answer from the Governor, he should give one, why was the intelligence reports ignored ? How can terrorists walk away like another day in the park ? These questions were raised by journalists, please stop blaming the victim here. There is no political mileage, all the governor has to do is answer the public’s questions ?

    It is amusing how ‘enlightened moderates’ in Pakistan think everything should be viewed seperate from religion and sadly those unfortunate souls have misconceptions of our culture, tradition. Thats why sadly 95% of the people in Pakistan will tell you that our culture is the same as India, which is sad how ignorant people have become of their own ways.

    Anyways, there’s always more than one way to corner a hypocrite, so keeping aside ‘religion’ i will just ask you if you’ve heard of ‘innocent till proven guilty’ ?

    Did Mr. Governor prove all the charges against Shabaz ? No, i think its shameful to level petty accusations without facts or concrete evidence. By the way, since the PPP has the best possible favorable judiciary wouldnt it be easier to take Shahbaz to court over the charges against Shahbaz. Please dont reply to that by ‘PPP wants reconciliation’ because anyone who supposedly stole, plundered and wasted the nation’s money should be held accountable. So either Mr. Governor should have taken the legal route or kept his mouth shut. With the new politicised judiciary and the new pro-PPP high court judges i dont think Mr. Governor would have any problem convicting Shahbaz over plundering, looting and corruption. Unless he fears the charges are phony !

    Iam sorry that you’ve come to expect your leaders will keep the nation in the dark as wheel deal their way into positions, negotiate on the interest of the nation & deprive people of justice, plan their grip on power as terrorists destory the nations image, I’m sorry that Shahbaz dispointed you as being truthful.

    and I’m certainly sorry for people claiming to be among the ‘educated class’ who still defend undemocratic rule over democracy after what we’ve been through in the last 8-9 years.

    I’m guessing you claim to be among the ‘educated class’ so i was wondering how you feel about the governor rule ? How do you feel about hypocricy of the Governor when he said when a party shows majority, the Punjab assembly will be convened and PML-N just showed their majority. So let me get your logic straight, holding a press conference to defend ones standing in the public is wrong, but subverting democracy, depriving the most populus province in the country of their elected representatives & preventing them carrying out their duties is right, levelling unfounded, unproven accusations is right, and when you fail in your duties to protect the nation’s interests, blame others for getting political mileage out of it ? To be honest i think its the decency of the Sharifs they havent fanned the flames on the governors negligence, and only journalists have done that so far.

    I cannot feel but sad with the so-called educated class who have led Pakistan into a confusion on our culture, politics & pretty much everything just because of their own illusion of knowledge & ‘enlightenment’.

    Lastly, this is not the first terrorist attack in Punjab, for people with short term memmories, Taseer always blamed the goverment for such incidents in the past, publically and repeatedly but unsuccessfully tried to gain political mileage, but i guess you’d put that in his good governance list. It must be convenient for you to be a hyprocrite and have double standards, the upside is you can never be proved wrong. For all those who wonder why we have such leaders, look no further, its said leaders are what the people are.

  • srau said:

    fz22
    its laughable man…..u think just because i am criticizing shahbaz i m siding with taseer and governor raj and what not….whats wrong with you?read what i have written…..you are really shortsighted….and inflicting personal attacks…you call me unreligious and supporter of dictators…..hilarious….i guess you also belong to educated class since you can obviously write i dnt know abt reading though since you clearly didnt get what i was saying….i said you are entitled to your opinion and i am to mine….wheres the problem in that?….if you want people to blindly follow their leaders and not question them than you can belong to that class …not me…maybe you should go and join ppp…they have lots of people there like you….i will say it again and will stand by what i said earlier….he should not have made that press conference that day[that day read clearly]i am not saying he shouldnt have clarified his position later ,not saying he should have made a deal blah blah blah[by the way we dnt have a single leader in our system who hasnt made deals before and saying that does not mean i m a promoter of dictatorship,it just shows i am not ignorant]…like i said i m not a supporter of specific political leaders just pakistan and shahbaz is no saint…he can and will be criticized and i am closing the argument from my side….you can go on with your blah blah blah…….

  • fz22 said:

    @saru:

    I think your expertise in avoiding, answering any direct questions and addressing the real issues is examplery. It just amazes me how we can relate the similarities between people & the goverment.

    What i find amusing is how can anyone view the press conference as an attempt to gain political mileage as a result of the terrorist attacks, when Shahabz does not even mention the attack even once ? Infact, Shahbaz did not even critcize the government or the Governor EVEN ONCE in the whole press conference! He cleared his own name by explaining his own past actions, its that simple, why do you view that as criticism or political mileage ?

    Its shocking how unfair and biased people like to twist things around to make them mean something totally different.

    As over-smart as you may think you are, i’m sorry to tell you that the pathetic trick you used has been way over-done, so really you should try something new now as it just doesnt work anymore. Let me explain, when Mr. Bush’s administration completely failed to protect the American people, his administration, supporters and many biased, unfair, politically prejudice people labeled anyone who criticized him or his administration as ‘ANTI-AMERICAN’ or ‘UNPATRIOTIC’.

    Similarly, anyone criticizing Israel is labeled anti-semitic, simply for criticising the state for carrying out killings.

    So here is the point, right, justified, balanced and founded criticism should be viewed as constructive and positive as it helps us grow in the right direction. Unjustified, wrong, unfounded criticism should be discouraged by expressing ‘DISSAPOINTMENT”. What i see in your post is completely the opposite, you never expressed any disspointment on the thread on the charge sheet against Shahbaz, which are false, unfounded and baseless but here you are disspointed at someone simply trying to clear his name without even leveling any political or personal accusations. All the criticism on the governor on the terrorist attacks has come from the journalists, they showed the intel reports, they showed the CCTV footage of the terrorists roaming free, & the foreigner empires criticised the goverment for the lack of security. Where does Shahbaz come into the picture ? Even if he did criticize, should we not criticize those whose negligence destroyes our country’s image, kills off any hopes of international cricket in the country and harms our economy. Should we not criticize those for their negligence ?

    Here is what i suggest you do;

    1. First try to understand the press conference, and its contents, you may be so over ‘educated’ that you’ve now forgotten Urdu and you thought it meant something else, I dont really blame you, it happens to alot of people in the ‘educated class’. Shahbaz doesnt even level one accusation on the PPP or the governor. He doesnt even mention the attacks or their negligence.

    2. Labelling others as short sighted, unpatriotic or destroying national solidarity, for their constructive, balanced, factual, founded criticism sounds humorous. It has been over done already, comeup with something new atleast.

    3. Learn what words like SOLIDARITY & COMMITMENT to the nation really mean. If for the ‘educated enlightened moderates’ it means we dont hold our officials responsible for their criminal negligence, then iam sorry to say we will witness more tragedies in the form of 12th may 2007, 3/3/2009 where officials responsible were not only ciminally negligent but remorseless on their negligence. These type of events will thus become routine thanks to the solidarity to the nation advocated by Musharraf and educated moderates.

    Iam still struggling on how you have no useful suggesttions, remedies for the goverment on the issue, i would expect and hope that the ‘educated class’ would contribute more than simply expressing dissapointment at issues. In any civilized, sane society you’d atleast some resignations, remorse or changes in the goverment if such an incident happened, but here in our country, nothing. Atleast in Shahbaz’s term he would remove or suspend Police officials and officers for their negligence in such events.

    In brief here’s what you can take away from this discussion, Inspite of what you may think of the conference, NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO THINK TWICE BEFORE TELLING THE TRUTH !

    Lastly, i particularly watching people who are full of them selves and cant stop praising themselves make a fool of themselves so often. It is very common in our country to see everyone full of praise for themselves its simply astounding.

    So when you say “we dnt have a single leader in our system who hasnt made deals before and saying that does not mean i m a promoter of dictatorship,it just shows i am not ignorant”

    I gather you’re not ignorant as you said, so i wonder when did a single leader named Imran Khan make a deal ?

    Now if he didnt, then you’re ignorant you just proved it, if he did make a deal then iam sure alot of us are missing something.

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