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		<title>By: Adnan Arshad Mansoori</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168907</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Arshad Mansoori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jawad Raja said:.............He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice.Watch out your words. Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character.

Raja: Watch my following: 

BB Shaeeeeeeeeeeeeeed said: Ch. Iftikhar is my CJ. 
Zardari i.e. Mr. _?_% said: Q League === Qatil Legue.
Zardari = Madari also said: 58 2B to be lifted very first day. As &amp; when the PRES. of PAKISTAN elected.

Directly ask to all Jiayalas of PPP does not have RPA such courage to put light on the above cited? Mr. Raja just remember one saying which is an appropriate for this RPA.

---DOSROON KAY GUNAH GINWANAY SAY APNAY GUNAH KUM NAHI HOON GAY---don&#039;t count other&#039;s misdeeds see at your own end what&#039;s wrong at your own end.

Mr. Raja as you invited me to JUMP-in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jawad Raja said:&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice.Watch out your words. Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character.</p>
<p>Raja: Watch my following: </p>
<p>BB Shaeeeeeeeeeeeeeed said: Ch. Iftikhar is my CJ.<br />
Zardari i.e. Mr. _?_% said: Q League === Qatil Legue.<br />
Zardari = Madari also said: 58 2B to be lifted very first day. As &amp; when the PRES. of PAKISTAN elected.</p>
<p>Directly ask to all Jiayalas of PPP does not have RPA such courage to put light on the above cited? Mr. Raja just remember one saying which is an appropriate for this RPA.</p>
<p>&#8212;DOSROON KAY GUNAH GINWANAY SAY APNAY GUNAH KUM NAHI HOON GAY&#8212;don&#8217;t count other&#8217;s misdeeds see at your own end what&#8217;s wrong at your own end.</p>
<p>Mr. Raja as you invited me to JUMP-in</p>
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		<title>By: nota</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168724</link>
		<dc:creator>nota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adomis
Exactly. What is interesting is that the &quot;fixers&quot; are approaching people and not the other way around.

Also remember the three main fiers for Gillani are his son, his brother and his sister who have set up what is described as a &quot;mandi&quot; in Multan with fixed rate lists (learnt from Mr. 10%) and I am told are often in competition (&quot;He is charging you 12%? I&#039;ll charge you only 9%!&quot;) So much for family values of Makhdooms :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adomis<br />
Exactly. What is interesting is that the &#8220;fixers&#8221; are approaching people and not the other way around.</p>
<p>Also remember the three main fiers for Gillani are his son, his brother and his sister who have set up what is described as a &#8220;mandi&#8221; in Multan with fixed rate lists (learnt from Mr. 10%) and I am told are often in competition (&#8220;He is charging you 12%? I&#8217;ll charge you only 9%!&#8221;) So much for family values of Makhdooms <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adonis</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168723</link>
		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ nota

wow ...... seems like the &quot;honourable&quot; minsiter is in real hurry as he knows his lottery will not last long.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ nota</p>
<p>wow &#8230;&#8230; seems like the &#8220;honourable&#8221; minsiter is in real hurry as he knows his lottery will not last long&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: nota</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168722</link>
		<dc:creator>nota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adonis
&quot;BTW, the exploits of parvez’s brother are well known who has been acting as his “fixer” ever since he became Minister of water &amp; Power.&quot;

And I can vouch for that. Though the fixer came to ask for a payment for a connection that was needed down the road (in about 2 years), I was surprised the honorable minister himself called again and again for a paltry sum of Rs 500,000 and kept on calling till the payment was made. I am not kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adonis<br />
&#8220;BTW, the exploits of parvez’s brother are well known who has been acting as his “fixer” ever since he became Minister of water &#038; Power.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I can vouch for that. Though the fixer came to ask for a payment for a connection that was needed down the road (in about 2 years), I was surprised the honorable minister himself called again and again for a paltry sum of Rs 500,000 and kept on calling till the payment was made. I am not kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Adonis</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168720</link>
		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Parvez Ashraf is son of Pothwar&quot;  ........

Yeah ....  What has he done to deserve this title?  How has he promoted Pothwari culture and Pothwar&#039;s interests?

As for 81,000 voters that voted for parvez ashraf, there were 125,ooo who voted for his two opposing candidates.

BTW, the exploits of parvez&#039;s brother are well known who has been acting as his &quot;fixer&quot; ever since he became Minister of water &amp; Power.

Interstingly, what does it say about the personality of a man like Parvez who shied from putting his own father, Gheba Khan&#039;s name with his name and instead tried to get political mileage by using Col. Ashraf&#039;s name bychanging his own last name to Ashraf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Parvez Ashraf is son of Pothwar&#8221;  &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Yeah &#8230;.  What has he done to deserve this title?  How has he promoted Pothwari culture and Pothwar&#8217;s interests?</p>
<p>As for 81,000 voters that voted for parvez ashraf, there were 125,ooo who voted for his two opposing candidates.</p>
<p>BTW, the exploits of parvez&#8217;s brother are well known who has been acting as his &#8220;fixer&#8221; ever since he became Minister of water &amp; Power.</p>
<p>Interstingly, what does it say about the personality of a man like Parvez who shied from putting his own father, Gheba Khan&#8217;s name with his name and instead tried to get political mileage by using Col. Ashraf&#8217;s name bychanging his own last name to Ashraf.</p>
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		<title>By: nota</title>
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		<dc:creator>nota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jawad Raja
&quot;Raja Ashraf is son of Pothwar. He is elected representative who is committed to his constituency and country. He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice.&quot;

Come in. We know enough about Raja Ashraf and how much he is committed to his country (constituency maybe but I seriously doubt it) 100,000 people might have elected him but he is using it to screw 160 million people. 

BTW: This kind of throws your claim about the video tapes in doubt. And remember &quot;Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character&quot;, as you yourself just said :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jawad Raja<br />
&#8220;Raja Ashraf is son of Pothwar. He is elected representative who is committed to his constituency and country. He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Come in. We know enough about Raja Ashraf and how much he is committed to his country (constituency maybe but I seriously doubt it) 100,000 people might have elected him but he is using it to screw 160 million people. </p>
<p>BTW: This kind of throws your claim about the video tapes in doubt. And remember &#8220;Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character&#8221;, as you yourself just said <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jawad Raja</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jawad Raja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adnan Arshad Mansoori 

Raja Ashraf is son of Pothwar. He is elected representative who is committed to his constituency and country. He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice. Watch out your words. Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character. 


@ Nota
My friend, I hope it does not happen but video is out there. Well......best way to verify........I suggested a while ago to &quot;owner&quot; of this website to ask Shahbaz as he is very close to PMLN leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adnan Arshad Mansoori </p>
<p>Raja Ashraf is son of Pothwar. He is elected representative who is committed to his constituency and country. He talks on the behalf of approx. 100,000 people who elected him twice. Watch out your words. Argue policies, maligning people reflects your character. </p>
<p>@ Nota<br />
My friend, I hope it does not happen but video is out there. Well&#8230;&#8230;best way to verify&#8230;&#8230;..I suggested a while ago to &#8220;owner&#8221; of this website to ask Shahbaz as he is very close to PMLN leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: nota</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168695</link>
		<dc:creator>nota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did the birdy sing? 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=20827&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PML-Q decides to form Punjab govt with PPP&lt;/a&gt;

LAHORE: The PPP and the PML-Q have finally decided to join hands in forming a coalition government in the Punjab with either Salmaan Taseer or Qasim Zia as the new chief minister of the province, The News has learnt.

Both the parties evolved this political strategy in a meeting on Sunday held at the residence of the Chaudhrys between Governor Salmaan Taseer and Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, Pervaiz Elahi and Moonis Elahi.

Sources said that under the power-sharing formula set for the new expected coalition government in Punjab, the portfolio of senior ministership would go to the PML-Q with Moonis Elahi as the new senior minister. There is also a possibility that the PPP may offer slot of CM to the PML-Q while keeping major share in the ministries but the final decision would be taken after the PML-Q leaders meeting with President Asif Zardari after his return from Iran.

The PML-Q, which has earlier demanded the chairmanship of Senate in lieu of its alliance with the PPP in Punjab, may have its adjustment with the PPP after meeting Zardari, who has so far nominated Federal Law Minister Farooq Naek for the slot.

The sources further added that Water and Power Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, who categorically ruled out any further reconciliation bid with the PML-N Sunday, did so after getting a go-ahead from his party high-ups due to political consensus developed between the two parties....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did the birdy sing?<br />
<a href="http://thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=20827" rel="nofollow">PML-Q decides to form Punjab govt with PPP</a></p>
<p>LAHORE: The PPP and the PML-Q have finally decided to join hands in forming a coalition government in the Punjab with either Salmaan Taseer or Qasim Zia as the new chief minister of the province, The News has learnt.</p>
<p>Both the parties evolved this political strategy in a meeting on Sunday held at the residence of the Chaudhrys between Governor Salmaan Taseer and Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, Pervaiz Elahi and Moonis Elahi.</p>
<p>Sources said that under the power-sharing formula set for the new expected coalition government in Punjab, the portfolio of senior ministership would go to the PML-Q with Moonis Elahi as the new senior minister. There is also a possibility that the PPP may offer slot of CM to the PML-Q while keeping major share in the ministries but the final decision would be taken after the PML-Q leaders meeting with President Asif Zardari after his return from Iran.</p>
<p>The PML-Q, which has earlier demanded the chairmanship of Senate in lieu of its alliance with the PPP in Punjab, may have its adjustment with the PPP after meeting Zardari, who has so far nominated Federal Law Minister Farooq Naek for the slot.</p>
<p>The sources further added that Water and Power Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, who categorically ruled out any further reconciliation bid with the PML-N Sunday, did so after getting a go-ahead from his party high-ups due to political consensus developed between the two parties&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nota</title>
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		<dc:creator>nota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jawad Raja  
How does one get one&#039;s hands on the &quot;video tapes of Shahbaz Sharif right after elections offering quid pro quo&quot;? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jawad Raja<br />
How does one get one&#8217;s hands on the &#8220;video tapes of Shahbaz Sharif right after elections offering quid pro quo&#8221;? <img src='http://pkpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jawad Raja</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/08/time-for-reconciliation-is-over-raja-pervaiz-ashraf/#comment-168671</link>
		<dc:creator>Jawad Raja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had mentioned few developments months ago with respect to PMLN. The visitors of this website may recall following:

1-	I had mentioned that Ch. Nisar is very aggressively working towards establishing himself as the viable, trusted, and reasonable leader as opposed to Sharif Bros. I had said that Sh. Rashid, Ijaz Haq, and other prominent leaders of Rawalpindi division have been entirely wiped out as significant contenders at least in part by efforts of Ch. Nisar. Well………………Javed Hashmi was the next victim. I had mentioned that he does not consider Shahbaz Sharif as President and calls him “Yar” and “Tu”. Anyway, people bereft of political acumen ship never paid attention to this. 
2-	I had said that finally after 50+ years bias of establishment is changing from “religious” to “liberal” and this process is creating problem for parties who have been benefiting from older bias. I do not need to elaborate on that. 
3-	The video tapes of Shahbaz Sharif right after elections offering quid pro quo (in many cases illegal) benefits directly to independent MPAs and Q league MPAs are out there. I said that Shahbaz Sharif did disservice to himself and process of reconciliation. I had said that he thinks no one knows but these things always surface.  
To prove that I said these, please check the archives of your website from 2007 onwards. Anyways, why I bring this up now? Just to remind us here that self restraint of Bros. Co. may have helped them including establishing independence of judiciary as prescribed in COD. They are either incapable of seeing things through or too dependent on the wisdom of hired guns. Either way, the best case scenario for them will be to wait out for their chance to rule for 5 years. The worst for them will be self-exile for 15-25 years (they breakdown pretty quickly in jail cell) while jail for 1-3 years for President Zardari. They will not benefit in the second case at all. President Zaradari will benefit most in second scenario. I see with each passing day, they are inviting second scenario. Just a very friendly advice, try to maximize outcomes of political momentum within 48 hours otherwise, if people are pushed to limits, 15-25 years appears to be a strong possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had mentioned few developments months ago with respect to PMLN. The visitors of this website may recall following:</p>
<p>1-	I had mentioned that Ch. Nisar is very aggressively working towards establishing himself as the viable, trusted, and reasonable leader as opposed to Sharif Bros. I had said that Sh. Rashid, Ijaz Haq, and other prominent leaders of Rawalpindi division have been entirely wiped out as significant contenders at least in part by efforts of Ch. Nisar. Well………………Javed Hashmi was the next victim. I had mentioned that he does not consider Shahbaz Sharif as President and calls him “Yar” and “Tu”. Anyway, people bereft of political acumen ship never paid attention to this.<br />
2-	I had said that finally after 50+ years bias of establishment is changing from “religious” to “liberal” and this process is creating problem for parties who have been benefiting from older bias. I do not need to elaborate on that.<br />
3-	The video tapes of Shahbaz Sharif right after elections offering quid pro quo (in many cases illegal) benefits directly to independent MPAs and Q league MPAs are out there. I said that Shahbaz Sharif did disservice to himself and process of reconciliation. I had said that he thinks no one knows but these things always surface.<br />
To prove that I said these, please check the archives of your website from 2007 onwards. Anyways, why I bring this up now? Just to remind us here that self restraint of Bros. Co. may have helped them including establishing independence of judiciary as prescribed in COD. They are either incapable of seeing things through or too dependent on the wisdom of hired guns. Either way, the best case scenario for them will be to wait out for their chance to rule for 5 years. The worst for them will be self-exile for 15-25 years (they breakdown pretty quickly in jail cell) while jail for 1-3 years for President Zardari. They will not benefit in the second case at all. President Zaradari will benefit most in second scenario. I see with each passing day, they are inviting second scenario. Just a very friendly advice, try to maximize outcomes of political momentum within 48 hours otherwise, if people are pushed to limits, 15-25 years appears to be a strong possibility.</p>
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