Comments on: Army Sides with Zardari – Plans to Deploy 111 Brigade http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:26:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The Long March Begins | Madiha R. Tahir http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-222343 The Long March Begins | Madiha R. Tahir Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:11:22 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-222343 [...] on all main roads to the capital Islamabad, the destination of the lawyers protest.  The army has deployed some 300 Rangers in and around the [...] [...] on all main roads to the capital Islamabad, the destination of the lawyers protest.  The army has deployed some 300 Rangers in and around the [...]

]]> By: Vision http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-173813 Vision Sun, 15 Mar 2009 06:06:57 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-173813 Dear Fikarmand, I am not a son of any general, I am a commoner like any aother Pakistani, not very happy with whatever that has happened and is happening in the country, all this saddens me as much as it does to any sincere Pakistani even though I do not live in Pakistan, I am an extreme opponent of martial law. I have no political leaning whatsoever. I am a student of history and feel that, you are saying all what you have said, is because you do not have much of the facts at hand. We should realize that army is a society within a society, hence it cannot be very different from the overall social environment; good or bad, one individual is in the army, his brother is a business man, one a lawyer or doctor or in any other profession and so on. What I want to point at is that, we should not get carried away with our emotions, our opinion must be based on factual data input and not on hear- say, or on a write up of a 'column navees', who just write because they must write something, and in our country unfortunately there is no mechanism to check or challenge them, similar to the ones in some of the countries we seem very keen to copy in everything. Having said that, I will add that you are welcome to have an opinion and I respect that, only thing I want to emphasize is that countires are built on institutions which are hardly left in the country, this is the only one left, may not be ideal or what it should be, but as I said, the only one left. I am glad you are pointing out the shortcomings, and I hope these are conveyed to the chief of army so that he can look into it, but if we all start saying what you said, you know who will benefit from it. God Bless you. Dear Fikarmand, I am not a son of any general, I am a commoner like any aother Pakistani, not very happy with whatever that has happened and is happening in the country, all this saddens me as much as it does to any sincere Pakistani even though I do not live in Pakistan, I am an extreme opponent of martial law. I have no political leaning whatsoever. I am a student of history and feel that, you are saying all what you have said, is because you do not have much of the facts at hand. We should realize that army is a society within a society, hence it cannot be very different from the overall social environment; good or bad, one individual is in the army, his brother is a business man, one a lawyer or doctor or in any other profession and so on. What I want to point at is that, we should not get carried away with our emotions, our opinion must be based on factual data input and not on hear- say, or on a write up of a ‘column navees’, who just write because they must write something, and in our country unfortunately there is no mechanism to check or challenge them, similar to the ones in some of the countries we seem very keen to copy in everything.
Having said that, I will add that you are welcome to have an opinion and I respect that, only thing I want to emphasize is that countires are built on institutions which are hardly left in the country, this is the only one left, may not be ideal or what it should be, but as I said, the only one left. I am glad you are pointing out the shortcomings, and I hope these are conveyed to the chief of army so that he can look into it, but if we all start saying what you said, you know who will benefit from it.
God Bless you.

]]> By: Fikarmand http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-173619 Fikarmand Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:20:29 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-173619 You must a son of some General and there may be some buttmen working in your home but the fact remains that Pakistnai Army is very unprfessional and ill equipped. They are helping Talibans in disguise and then uses Drones for $$$. What basters they are... You must a son of some General and there may be some buttmen working in your home but the fact remains that Pakistnai Army is very unprfessional and ill equipped. They are helping Talibans in disguise and then uses Drones for $$$.
What basters they are…

]]> By: Fikarmand http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-173613 Fikarmand Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:16:20 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-173613 @ Vision You are living in dreams. Kargil operation was a fiasco. Army lost 1965, 1971, Siachin Glacier and Kargil. Army Generals have turned Army into Military Inc. Pakistani Army is responsible for Bangladesh and is bent on dividing it into 1000 pieces. These Generals have sold Pakistani Citizens for $$ and don't forget the Drones are flying from within Pakistan... Bravo Pakistani Army.. Beghariatssssssssssssssss @ Vision
You are living in dreams. Kargil operation was a fiasco. Army lost 1965, 1971, Siachin Glacier and Kargil. Army Generals have turned Army into Military Inc. Pakistani Army is responsible for Bangladesh and is bent on dividing it into 1000 pieces. These Generals have sold Pakistani Citizens for $$ and don’t forget the Drones are flying from within Pakistan…
Bravo Pakistani Army.. Beghariatssssssssssssssss

]]> By: Vision http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-172625 Vision Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:55:18 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-172625 Just a point about Kargil; That operation was called off when NS buckled under pressure, you know from where, he called his kithcen cabinet in London, called back home and ordered army to pull back from very important strategic position. As for East Pakistan, it is not exactly what goes around, the real story is quite different, I do not understand why our previous governments have never taken the courage to explain the whole thing to the public, infact there has not been a proper govt in place, it was either a martial law or "lungry looly" democracy. The tragedy is that we never had(in the past and present) the leader worth his salt who can lead this unfortunate country and its unfrotunate people. Let us all pray that God Almighty protect and preserve this wonderful gift of God bestowed upon us on The Night of Power(Lailatul Qadr), Ameen. God Bless you all. Just a point about Kargil; That operation was called off when NS buckled under pressure, you know from where, he called his kithcen cabinet in London, called back home and ordered army to pull back from very important strategic position. As for East Pakistan, it is not exactly what goes around, the real story is quite different, I do not understand why our previous governments have never taken the courage to explain the whole thing to the public, infact there has not been a proper govt in place, it was either a martial law or “lungry looly” democracy. The tragedy is that we never had(in the past and present) the leader worth his salt who can lead this unfortunate country and its unfrotunate people.
Let us all pray that God Almighty protect and preserve this wonderful gift of God bestowed upon us on The Night of Power(Lailatul Qadr), Ameen.
God Bless you all.

]]> By: Vision http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-172565 Vision Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:43:36 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-172565 It is humbly requested that you may say anything to those individuals (generals) because they have politicised themselves, but please do not have a malice against the organization, you should know that it is only due to this institution that the country is still surviving, otherwise the enemies (both internal and external) will jump on you like hungry wolves. Please be very clear on this becasue it is very damaging with far reaching effects. God Bless you all. It is humbly requested that you may say anything to those individuals (generals) because they have politicised themselves, but please do not have a malice against the organization, you should know that it is only due to this institution that the country is still surviving, otherwise the enemies (both internal and external) will jump on you like hungry wolves. Please be very clear on this becasue it is very damaging with far reaching effects.
God Bless you all.

]]> By: The Long March -It Begins « Action for a Progressive Pakistan http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-170597 The Long March -It Begins « Action for a Progressive Pakistan Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:16:08 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-170597 [...] on all main roads to the capital Islamabad, the destination of the lawyers protest.  The army has deployed some 300 Rangers in and around the [...] [...] on all main roads to the capital Islamabad, the destination of the lawyers protest.  The army has deployed some 300 Rangers in and around the [...]

]]> By: abdullah farooq http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-169551 abdullah farooq Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:06:10 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-169551 f*** zardari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! f*** zardari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: babarhaq http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-169367 babarhaq Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:19:30 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-169367 http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/pakistan/army-will-not-intervene-kayani-tells-us-lawmakers-yn As Amir Hameed said this news does not seem to be credible. http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/pakistan/army-will-not-intervene-kayani-tells-us-lawmakers-yn

As Amir Hameed said this news does not seem to be credible.

]]> By: zaheer http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/09/army-sides-with-zardari-plans-to-deploy-111-brigade/#comment-169096 zaheer Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:28:01 +0000 http://pkpolitics.com/?p=8968#comment-169096 - It would a grave mistake by Army if it tried to move against the will of the people! I hope and pray that top officials of Army are loyal to the country/people and not to USA and Co! Quite recently they visited USA, and don't know what they were taught there, it must not be any lesson in favor of Pakistan! USA has never been faithful to Pakistan although they claim opposite! - It is double standard of our nation that so many Pakistanis are ready to take visa/nationality of USA at any cost but expect that our Army must be pure and must not bend in front of them! People! if we are not sincere and ready to sacrifice for our land then how could Army be so? So first thing is that we must be faithful to our selves and to our country, and we should get rid of inferiority complex of USA and Co! - We have provided our blood to our Army for last sixty years, we gave them all respect and all what they needed, we starved but fed Army so if it will try to cheat Pakistani nation at this critical juncture of our history then no one in this Universe will be able to save them. Not only we, people of Pakistan, will crush them but Allah Almighty will also tear them apart(INSHALLAH)! Who is their Boss? The Creator, Controller and Sustainer of everything(i.e. Allah Almighty) or false and empty super power of this temporary world i.e. USA? The common soldiers of Pak Army are very pure and even if top officials will sell their loyalties, those low rank soldier of Army, in critical situation will only fight for Islam and Pakistan! So soldiers of Pakistan will never give up even top officials might sell their faiths! Those soldiers will be indigestible for world if Pakistan got destabilized!!! My humble request to Army is, for God sake don't be scared of false gods, show courage and faith. Life and death, benefit and loss are not in control of anyone except Allah Almighty alone!!! - It is no surprise that Zardari and Co are amazingly close to their external masters and they so far have not done any good to Pakistan and Pakistanis! He is so openly repeating the tactics of Musharraf and doing corruption and stupid acts! He and his loyals are not able to defend themselves in discussions and people of Pakistan are able to judge their lies so easily! Chauhdaries of Gujrat have joined hands with Zardari and this combination suits to both! Last time when Zardari visited China, government of PMLN in Punjab was toppled and now he is gonna visit Iran, what might be expected this time? This person will run away the day he felt that his game is over! I am quite sure that Army is fully aware of his ill doings, but Army just want him and his cronies to dig their graves deeper! We must however stay prepared for the worst and must not develop childish and unrealistic expectations, we have to believe in Allah Almighty and ourselves! - Lawyers movement is the biggest threat for the enemies of Pakistan, because it is against their plans and control! But i don't think that this movement could be stopped, every opposition to it will result in more strength and unity of people ! People of Pakistan can't be played with so easily now, any politician who will try to cheat us, we would press his/her throat! So politicians must check their loyalties! Only worries for Pakistan, are the internal divides and traitors, no one from outside can dare to attack us! - Preparations for the final round against Pakistan are being made but plans of Allah Almighty, no one knows!!! Afghanistan always proved a grave for invaders and it is repeating its tradition this time too. Afghanis will slaughter their enemies and those who would be able to escape and enter Pakistan, we will see them well, INSHALLAH. We have to show faith, courage and unity at this stage! Tomorrow belongs to us, INSHALLAH. my views. - It would a grave mistake by Army if it tried to move against the will of the people! I hope and pray that top officials of Army are loyal to the country/people and not to USA and Co! Quite recently they visited USA, and don’t know what they were taught there, it must not be any lesson in favor of Pakistan! USA has never been faithful to Pakistan although they claim opposite!

- It is double standard of our nation that so many Pakistanis are ready to take visa/nationality of USA at any cost but expect that our Army must be pure and must not bend in front of them! People! if we are not sincere and ready to sacrifice for our land then how could Army be so? So first thing is that we must be faithful to our selves and to our country, and we should get rid of inferiority complex of USA and Co!

- We have provided our blood to our Army for last sixty years, we gave them all respect and all what they needed, we starved but fed Army so if it will try to cheat Pakistani nation at this critical juncture of our history then no one in this Universe will be able to save them. Not only we, people of Pakistan, will crush them but Allah Almighty will also tear them apart(INSHALLAH)! Who is their Boss? The Creator, Controller and Sustainer of everything(i.e. Allah Almighty) or false and empty super power of this temporary world i.e. USA? The common soldiers of Pak Army are very pure and even if top officials will sell their loyalties, those low rank soldier of Army, in critical situation will only fight for Islam and Pakistan! So soldiers of Pakistan will never give up even top officials might sell their faiths! Those soldiers will be indigestible for world if Pakistan got destabilized!!! My humble request to Army is, for God sake don’t be scared of false gods, show courage and faith. Life and death, benefit and loss are not in control of anyone except Allah Almighty alone!!!

- It is no surprise that Zardari and Co are amazingly close to their external masters and they so far have not done any good to Pakistan and Pakistanis! He is so openly repeating the tactics of Musharraf and doing corruption and stupid acts! He and his loyals are not able to defend themselves in discussions and people of Pakistan are able to judge their lies so easily! Chauhdaries of Gujrat have joined hands with Zardari and this combination suits to both! Last time when Zardari visited China, government of PMLN in Punjab was toppled and now he is gonna visit Iran, what might be expected this time? This person will run away the day he felt that his game is over! I am quite sure that Army is fully aware of his ill doings, but Army just want him and his cronies to dig their graves deeper! We must however stay prepared for the worst and must not develop childish and unrealistic expectations, we have to believe in Allah Almighty and ourselves!

- Lawyers movement is the biggest threat for the enemies of Pakistan, because it is against their plans and control! But i don’t think that this movement could be stopped, every opposition to it will result in more strength and unity of people ! People of Pakistan can’t be played with so easily now, any politician who will try to cheat us, we would press his/her throat! So politicians must check their loyalties! Only worries for Pakistan, are the internal divides and traitors, no one from outside can dare to attack us!

- Preparations for the final round against Pakistan are being made but plans of Allah Almighty, no one knows!!! Afghanistan always proved a grave for invaders and it is repeating its tradition this time too. Afghanis will slaughter their enemies and those who would be able to escape and enter Pakistan, we will see them well, INSHALLAH. We have to show faith, courage and unity at this stage! Tomorrow belongs to us, INSHALLAH.

my views.

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