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		<title>By: The Long March Begins &#124; Madiha R. Tahir</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/10/civil-dictator-zardari-orders-mass-arrests/#comment-222340</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long March Begins &#124; Madiha R. Tahir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SnrCtzn</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/10/civil-dictator-zardari-orders-mass-arrests/#comment-173175</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ comman_man
You MAYBE very correct in your assessment of future intentions of this idiot called Zordari. You seem to be a well informed person. I hope your advance knowledge of these events reach the right quarters, especially Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani  who does not seem to be such a naive  or a stupid person,  as to be &#039;sold for a song&#039; by this treacherous &amp; criminal, person like  Zordari?</description>
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You MAYBE very correct in your assessment of future intentions of this idiot called Zordari. You seem to be a well informed person. I hope your advance knowledge of these events reach the right quarters, especially Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani  who does not seem to be such a naive  or a stupid person,  as to be &#8216;sold for a song&#8217; by this treacherous &amp; criminal, person like  Zordari?</p>
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		<title>By: navers</title>
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		<dc:creator>navers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mayhope Maraming salamat po.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mayhope Maraming salamat po.</p>
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		<title>By: mayhope</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/10/civil-dictator-zardari-orders-mass-arrests/#comment-172131</link>
		<dc:creator>mayhope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening now in Pakistan - I am reminded of the EDSA &quot;People Power&quot; Revolution in the Philippines in 1986 (google for more info) which toppled another civilian dictator - Ferdinand Marcos - after more than 10 years of autocratic rule, atrocities and abuses in human rights, graft and corruption and downward spiral in Philippine economy, very, very much similar to what is happening now in Pakistan.

The murder of Marcos&#039; biggest opposition - Benigno Aquino - led to this revolution, though many political activists and journalists were killed and kidnapped also before for daring to fight against the Marcos&#039; regime and his military.  But, after a few short years, the Filipinos had enough!  And with the help of some of the military and the Catholic Church who initiated the movement, hundreds of Filipinos from all walks of life took to the street for 3 days in February 1986 to stand against the Marcos administration.  

Because the Filipinos said &quot;Enough!&quot; and because many of them united in the struggle in that fateful day, they were able to put an end to the years of human rights abuses and curtailment of freedom that characterized the Marcos regime.  

The same thing can happen to Pakistan.  I&#039;ve seen this people power happen in many countries, which forced drastic changes to happen in these countries (like the Berlin Wall in Germany).  I know that if the Pakistani people will remain united and persistent in your quest for freedom and restoration of the judiciary, you will be able to bring about the changes that you want for Pakistan.  Long live freedom, justice and human rights in Pakistan! Long live the Pakistani people!   We are all watching you and praying for you.

Salam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening now in Pakistan &#8211; I am reminded of the EDSA &#8220;People Power&#8221; Revolution in the Philippines in 1986 (google for more info) which toppled another civilian dictator &#8211; Ferdinand Marcos &#8211; after more than 10 years of autocratic rule, atrocities and abuses in human rights, graft and corruption and downward spiral in Philippine economy, very, very much similar to what is happening now in Pakistan.</p>
<p>The murder of Marcos&#8217; biggest opposition &#8211; Benigno Aquino &#8211; led to this revolution, though many political activists and journalists were killed and kidnapped also before for daring to fight against the Marcos&#8217; regime and his military.  But, after a few short years, the Filipinos had enough!  And with the help of some of the military and the Catholic Church who initiated the movement, hundreds of Filipinos from all walks of life took to the street for 3 days in February 1986 to stand against the Marcos administration.  </p>
<p>Because the Filipinos said &#8220;Enough!&#8221; and because many of them united in the struggle in that fateful day, they were able to put an end to the years of human rights abuses and curtailment of freedom that characterized the Marcos regime.  </p>
<p>The same thing can happen to Pakistan.  I&#8217;ve seen this people power happen in many countries, which forced drastic changes to happen in these countries (like the Berlin Wall in Germany).  I know that if the Pakistani people will remain united and persistent in your quest for freedom and restoration of the judiciary, you will be able to bring about the changes that you want for Pakistan.  Long live freedom, justice and human rights in Pakistan! Long live the Pakistani people!   We are all watching you and praying for you.</p>
<p>Salam!</p>
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		<title>By: mayhope</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening now in Pakistan - I am reminded of the EDSA &quot;People Power&quot; Revolution in the Philippines in 1986 which toppled another civilian dictator - Ferdinand Marcos after more than 10 years of autocratic rule.  What sparked it was the murder of the biggest opposition leader - Marcos&#039; equal - Benigno Aquino, which was headline news throughout the entire world, except in the Philippines, where the media was controlled by Marcos.

Marcos and his cohorts similarly suppressed human rights, arrested opposition leaders and political activists, which contributed to the downward spiral of the country.  

It was only through People Power - a mass movement in the nation&#039;s capital which drew all kinds of people from all walks of life, including many in the military and the religious - that the Filipinos were able to put an end to the Marcos regime and its atrocities, paving the way to the establishment of the fundamentals of democracy that it is enjoying today.

I am not a Pakistani but I join all of you who are fighting for freedom and the restoration of judiciary in your country.   Just like in the Philippines, you can do all things, make things better, if you are united.   Long live justice and human rights in Pakistan!  Long live the Pakistani people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening now in Pakistan &#8211; I am reminded of the EDSA &#8220;People Power&#8221; Revolution in the Philippines in 1986 which toppled another civilian dictator &#8211; Ferdinand Marcos after more than 10 years of autocratic rule.  What sparked it was the murder of the biggest opposition leader &#8211; Marcos&#8217; equal &#8211; Benigno Aquino, which was headline news throughout the entire world, except in the Philippines, where the media was controlled by Marcos.</p>
<p>Marcos and his cohorts similarly suppressed human rights, arrested opposition leaders and political activists, which contributed to the downward spiral of the country.  </p>
<p>It was only through People Power &#8211; a mass movement in the nation&#8217;s capital which drew all kinds of people from all walks of life, including many in the military and the religious &#8211; that the Filipinos were able to put an end to the Marcos regime and its atrocities, paving the way to the establishment of the fundamentals of democracy that it is enjoying today.</p>
<p>I am not a Pakistani but I join all of you who are fighting for freedom and the restoration of judiciary in your country.   Just like in the Philippines, you can do all things, make things better, if you are united.   Long live justice and human rights in Pakistan!  Long live the Pakistani people!</p>
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		<title>By: The Long March Begins &#171; the mob and the multitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Long March Begins &#171; the mob and the multitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pinochio</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>admin keep this update thing up

provides good information fr ppl in third world countries with shitty internet and electricity facilities.</description>
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<p>provides good information fr ppl in third world countries with shitty internet and electricity facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: The Long March -It Begins &#171; Action for a Progressive Pakistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Long March -It Begins &#171; Action for a Progressive Pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: common_man</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>March 10: Pakistan President Asif Zardari plans to bring his choice of generals to top of the Pakistan Army to strengthen his grip on power, official sources said.

&quot;President Zardari wants his own men as top generals to strengthen his hold on power,&quot; a highly placed official told this newspaper.

The development, according to sources, follows Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani asking President Zardari to resolve persistent political crises &quot;within days&quot;.

The ruling Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) are currently engaged in wrangling that could well see another intervention by the Army, which has ruled the country for more than half of its 61 years as an independent nation.

According to a consensus of informed analysts and insiders who know Mr Zardari, the targets for the President are &quot;Gen. Kayani, Nawaz Sharif and free and independent sections of the media (which he thinks have acquired out-of-proportion influence)&quot;.

Insiders say quiet efforts have already begun to push Mr Zardari’s choice of generals to the top. The buzz in the Presidency is that Mr Zardari is in a hurry and is already privately meeting some generals who will retire soon. According to one source, at least three uniformed officers have been seen visiting the Presidency at odd hours, like 3 am, and General Headquarters (GHQ) has already been alerted.

&quot;One of these three (generals) has been military secretary to three previous Prime Ministers (including Benazir Bhutto), and this link is said to be the key,&quot; said the official. &quot;So, if President Zardari is even thinking of any such idea, after all his victories, political, moral and not so moral, this will be the big freight train that will hit everybody in weeks,&quot; he added.

According to sources, President Zardari arrived at this decision after facing a refusal from the Army on two occasions. The first was when the government decided to put Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) under the interior ministry but the Army rejected the move and the government had to take back its decision. The second was when the government decided to send the ISI chief to India on the demand of the Indian government, but the Army reacted strongly and the government had to withdraw.

The source added that the Army devised a strategy to counter the President’s move as soon as it learnt of it.

Information available in Pakistan and being discussed quietly in important drawing rooms brings us back to what role the Pakistan Army would play and whether Mr Zardari will be allowed to achieve his goals if the situation is seen from his perspective.

If Mr Zardari stays on for his full term in office till 2013, all the current 33 lieutenant-generals in the Pakistan Army would have been replaced, the last one, Lt. Gen. Nadeem Khalid Lodhi, retiring on February 17, 2013.

If Mr Zardari stays for the next 20 months, he would get the opportunity to replace the 13 seniormost generals out of 33 with the last of them, General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, retiring on November 28, 2010.

Before him the other retirements would occur in this order: Gen. Tariq Majeed (October 8, 2010), Lt. Gen. Ahsan Azhar Hayat, Lt. Gen. Sajjad Akram, Lt. Gen. Nadeem Ahmad, Lt. Gen. Muhammad Zaki, Lt. Gen. Sikandar Afzal and Lt. Gen. Ijaz Ahmed Bakhshi (April 11, 2010), Lt. Gen. Raza Muhammad Khan, Lt. Gen. Muhammad Masood Aslam, Lt. Gen. Shafaat Ullah Shah and Lt. Gen. Mohammad Hamid Khan (September 23, 2009), and Lt. Gen. Syed Sabahat Hussain (May 5, 2009).

In the next six-and-a-half months, five lieutenant-generals will retire and new ones will have to be promoted by Gen. Kayani. The first upcoming retirement is in about eight weeks when Lt. Gen. Syed Sabahat Hussain Naqvi retires on May 5, 2009.

If Mr Zardari wants to get a grip on the top echelons of the Pakistan Army, he would not get an opportunity to push his favourite generals, if any, until November 2010, when Gen. Kayani retires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>March 10: Pakistan President Asif Zardari plans to bring his choice of generals to top of the Pakistan Army to strengthen his grip on power, official sources said.</p>
<p>&#8220;President Zardari wants his own men as top generals to strengthen his hold on power,&#8221; a highly placed official told this newspaper.</p>
<p>The development, according to sources, follows Pakistan Army Chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani asking President Zardari to resolve persistent political crises &#8220;within days&#8221;.</p>
<p>The ruling Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) are currently engaged in wrangling that could well see another intervention by the Army, which has ruled the country for more than half of its 61 years as an independent nation.</p>
<p>According to a consensus of informed analysts and insiders who know Mr Zardari, the targets for the President are &#8220;Gen. Kayani, Nawaz Sharif and free and independent sections of the media (which he thinks have acquired out-of-proportion influence)&#8221;.</p>
<p>Insiders say quiet efforts have already begun to push Mr Zardari’s choice of generals to the top. The buzz in the Presidency is that Mr Zardari is in a hurry and is already privately meeting some generals who will retire soon. According to one source, at least three uniformed officers have been seen visiting the Presidency at odd hours, like 3 am, and General Headquarters (GHQ) has already been alerted.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of these three (generals) has been military secretary to three previous Prime Ministers (including Benazir Bhutto), and this link is said to be the key,&#8221; said the official. &#8220;So, if President Zardari is even thinking of any such idea, after all his victories, political, moral and not so moral, this will be the big freight train that will hit everybody in weeks,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>According to sources, President Zardari arrived at this decision after facing a refusal from the Army on two occasions. The first was when the government decided to put Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) under the interior ministry but the Army rejected the move and the government had to take back its decision. The second was when the government decided to send the ISI chief to India on the demand of the Indian government, but the Army reacted strongly and the government had to withdraw.</p>
<p>The source added that the Army devised a strategy to counter the President’s move as soon as it learnt of it.</p>
<p>Information available in Pakistan and being discussed quietly in important drawing rooms brings us back to what role the Pakistan Army would play and whether Mr Zardari will be allowed to achieve his goals if the situation is seen from his perspective.</p>
<p>If Mr Zardari stays on for his full term in office till 2013, all the current 33 lieutenant-generals in the Pakistan Army would have been replaced, the last one, Lt. Gen. Nadeem Khalid Lodhi, retiring on February 17, 2013.</p>
<p>If Mr Zardari stays for the next 20 months, he would get the opportunity to replace the 13 seniormost generals out of 33 with the last of them, General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, retiring on November 28, 2010.</p>
<p>Before him the other retirements would occur in this order: Gen. Tariq Majeed (October 8, 2010), Lt. Gen. Ahsan Azhar Hayat, Lt. Gen. Sajjad Akram, Lt. Gen. Nadeem Ahmad, Lt. Gen. Muhammad Zaki, Lt. Gen. Sikandar Afzal and Lt. Gen. Ijaz Ahmed Bakhshi (April 11, 2010), Lt. Gen. Raza Muhammad Khan, Lt. Gen. Muhammad Masood Aslam, Lt. Gen. Shafaat Ullah Shah and Lt. Gen. Mohammad Hamid Khan (September 23, 2009), and Lt. Gen. Syed Sabahat Hussain (May 5, 2009).</p>
<p>In the next six-and-a-half months, five lieutenant-generals will retire and new ones will have to be promoted by Gen. Kayani. The first upcoming retirement is in about eight weeks when Lt. Gen. Syed Sabahat Hussain Naqvi retires on May 5, 2009.</p>
<p>If Mr Zardari wants to get a grip on the top echelons of the Pakistan Army, he would not get an opportunity to push his favourite generals, if any, until November 2010, when Gen. Kayani retires.</p>
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		<title>By: fsg.93200</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZA have to go and go as soon as possible, go ZARDARI go.
there is only one dirty boy in pp and he is ZA. what ever he is doing, he is closing all his door&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZA have to go and go as soon as possible, go ZARDARI go.<br />
there is only one dirty boy in pp and he is ZA. what ever he is doing, he is closing all his door&#8217;s.</p>
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