l Pakistan and The New Deadly Challenge | Pakistan Politics
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  • Adnan Arshad Mansoori said:

    It is bet on the same day as & when Pakistan will announce —”Not to Accept American Aid”— Believe me Pakistan will come out from all DANGERS.

    Therefore, pls. do not waste your precious time to write such long Articles & be focal to major point i.e. do not allow to the West particularly America in your domestic affairs.

  • bechari-awam said:

    very confused article, on one hand author is trying to explain the reason behind the presence of capitalist forces in afghanistan i.e. to contain china, india, russia and middle-east and on the other hand claiming that they are trying to prop up india as the main driver in this region.

  • Jehanzaib said:

    Great Article. we all know (unity, faith, Discipline) but we must belive in it.

  • BABU FROM USA said:

    Good article. Anyone can see this in US history. Check out creation of Panama as an independent country from columbia to serve US traders by building panama canal. you can learn about the tactics they used.

    Donot forget about JP Morgan and also Rockefellers. needs a separate search.

    Just compare columbia situation with the situation in pakistan. A little history lesson. you can also get more details from other sources.

    http://www.applet-magic.com/panama.htm

  • BABU FROM USA said:

    According to US The main resistance they could face is from the military then from the tribal people and then from the rest of the people of Pakistan. So they did what?

    military and tribal people fight each other and both become weak.

    Corrupt leaders and others will anyway join their BAD WAGON. thats the plan and what we are doing just killing each other under the name of so called WAR OF ERROR.

    UNITED WE STAND AND DIVIDED WE FALL
    NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
    SET OUR PRIORITIES AND THEN STRUGGLE TO ACHIEVE THEM

  • bumpy_ride said:

    I feel sorry to point out that the chips are in place and so are the moles and rats to thwart any effort by the people of Pakistan to take control of their destiny. The military is interested in playing the game of using the militants to milk more out of the US. Of course the US is much too happy to give them money and junk hardware while opening its own channels of support for the militants in an effective “turning of the tables”.

    As for the political leadership, well, the less said the better. Mr. Zardari is visiting Libya of all the world while an operation is in progress. How could this political class be so blind and apathetic if they cared even half as much as we think they should? What are they doing about mending the state’s relations with the estranged Balochs?

    Everyone is crying hoarse for the need of getting united and calling an APC to comeup with a national policy. DO u see that happening? I am sorry but these guys are either too naive or are in league with those wanting Pakistan dismembered. I myself have come to believe the latter scenario.

  • nota said:

    An interesting article by Asif Ezdi that some would love to hate:
    Thank you, Sufi Mohammad
    [I bet the title alone makes them cringe :) ]

    …We do not know yet whether we are seeing the beginnings of a revolt or of a revolution in Pakistan. But whatever it is, it is certainly not a law and order problem and it is not going to be stopped by raising the salaries of policemen.

    Our newspaper columns, airwaves and cyberspace have been saturated with the bloviations of our “liberal” commentators of different stripes chattering endlessly about the state being threatened by Islamic militants and extremists. In a rare display of unity, the apologists for our political class have also been saying the same thing. Hillary Clinton would be pleased that her call to the Pakistanis to speak out against the Taliban has been heeded.

    Following in the footsteps of Musharraf, who not so long ago used to wax eloquent about how his brand of military dictatorship stood for enlightened moderation, the self-appointed protagonists of our hard-won democracy have been lamenting how our modern, enlightened way of life is being challenged by obscurantism and fundamentalism, when actually they are mostly defending only their class interests. Few, if any, votaries of this new enlightened moderation have pointed out that the Taliban movement in Swat has been able to win support among so many young men because the state has failed them, massively and comprehensively.

    To portray the ferment in Swat as a medieval backlash against modernism is either a blinkered view or a deliberately misleading one. It ignores or tries to cover up the fact that the wellspring of Islamic militancy in Pakistan is to be found in the alienation of the mass of the population by a ruling elite which has used the state to protect and expand its own privileges, pushing the common man into deeper and deeper poverty and hopelessness. Past governments, whether military or civilian, dictatorial or democratic, have been little more than convenient tools of the privileged few for perpetuation of the status quo. …

    :)

  • razakhan said:

    @nota

    “To portray the ferment in Swat as a medieval backlash against modernism is either a blinkered view or a deliberately misleading one. It ignores or tries to cover up the fact that the wellspring of Islamic militancy in Pakistan is to be found in the alienation of the mass of the population by a ruling elite which has used the state to protect and expand its own privileges, pushing the common man into deeper and deeper poverty and hopelessness. Past governments, whether military or civilian, dictatorial or democratic, have been little more than convenient tools of the privileged few for perpetuation of the status quo. …

    i would say deliberately misleading one, cuz noway these so much educated, enlighted and always knowing wats best for Pakistan can have a blinkered view :p, didn’t i say wait for SWAT operation lol

  • nota said:

    Why military action is not the answer
    Shireen Mazari (on the madrassahs issue)

    The chaos following the Swat deal and the Nizam-e-Adl Regulation have been reflections of the failure of the writ of the state to actually enforce these arrangements. This has allowed the Taliban to go beyond the terms of their deal and assert a ‘give-more’ mantra similar to the US ‘do-more’ mantra we have been afflicted with in the face of an increasingly weak state and government that shows absolutely no signs of wanting to govern….

    …A beginning has to be made by altering the operational environment in the state’s favour and that can only be done by distancing ourselves from the US, for it has now become part of our own terrorism problem. That is why US dollars are not the answer but an aggravation of the problem given the perception of the US within all levels of Pakistani society. There is no middle-class Pakistani majority that wants drone attacks – regardless of the claims made by a few Pakistani ‘advisers’ to the US who say what the US wants to hear.

    Beyond that, we need to focus on the sleeper cells for the obscurantist militants. These are the madressahs spread across the country. Already, a move has begun by the militants to take over madressahs in southern Punjab, but one has to actually see the scope of the problem in numbers to realise why military or other violent action by the state is not even the beginning of a solution….

    The main point that has been raised for some time in these columns now is that in order to remove the three main issues of madressahs in Pakistan – that is, the marginalised poor students, the lack of mainstream education and therefore lack of any future prospects and problem of transparency of funding – can only be removed by bringing in the private sector to pump in funds, provide mainstream education alongside the religious education which the various madressah boards can continue to supervise, and offer employment opportunities so that the very poor do not need to offer their children as suicide bombers and cannon fodder for violence. Let the Pakistani nation take up the challenge because the state has failed miserably and time is running out. All the state can do is to offer incentives for what I refer to as the ‘adopt-a-madressah’ scheme alongside the necessary legislation.

    When one sees the human figures involved the massive scale of the problem becomes all too evident for it is these deprived youth that will keep the extremist violence continuing within Pakistan just as the marginalised Muslim youth of Britain are the future terrorist threat for that country despite the British leaders’ inability to do introspection rather than indulge in a convenient blame game. Military action can never resolve this issue – how many of our people will we kill? The solution lies in justice and restoration of dignity alongside a future of hope for the dispossessed…

  • nota said:

    Predatory structures
    by Shahid Kardar offers us “six inter-linked issues have not only dogged and bedevilled Pakistan’s prospects of graduating from a developing to an emerging economy but have also been responsible for the repeated patterns of stop-go growth without any significant change in the country’s production structures”

  • nota said:

    @razakhan
    “i would say deliberately misleading one”

    Of course nothing “blinkered” about it. I believe the author was only being politically correct…. ;-)

    BTW: Imagine if this had been done by Talibs. We would never have heard the end of it. But now, just the sound of silence…….

  • razakhan said:

    @nota

    oh yeeee of lil faith, can’t u see its cuz of Talibaan influence bros were influenced by Taliban and thus the honor killings, all honor killings aree done cuz mullah teeachees them to be right lol

  • nota said:

    Another related comment I had posted elsewhere. It includes a link to the statements by our very own Federal Minister for Science & Technology Azam Khan Swati, stating “US wants to break up Pakistan”. I was hoping some nugget would respond but all I got was a rant by skirty…

  • gv said:

    article sort of sums up our current pkp dilemma…

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/16-the-grand-debate-hs-06

    nota my friend… you’re slipping up again… ‘the dark side is strong in you young jedi’!!!! ;P

  • Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar said:

    “article sort of sums up our current pkp dilemma… ”

    excellent article. very well written… completely captures our dilemma.

  • razakhan said:

    @gv

    may be the author should read news, Govt has started operation 2 days ago. So debate is moot. There is no debate Govt decided wat they gonna do and they did. It will just hardened everyone’s view and perceptions, less chances of reconciliation btween different groups. Oh well, God help only those who wants to help themselves, we collectively have decided we just want to fight each other.

  • gv said:

    i think you guys will love this one;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&v=n_3h3TXV-Es

  • Gul said:

    @gv

    Excellent find. Everyday, non elite people recognise the taliban/talibanisation for what it is. Like I said elsewhere, the common man in Pakistan today shows far more common sense than the literates….

    Thank you, it was uplifting.

  • wiqi said:

    @gv
    Bravo!!
    In reward, you get the following video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VlbdPqok84

  • nota said:

    “Excellent find. Everyday, non elite people recognise the taliban/talibanisation for what it is.”

    As long as it is anti-chicken-nugget, I am ALL for it :)

    @gv
    If being on the same side on this issue as Shireen Mazari, Asif Ezdi, Shahid Kardar, Pepe Escobar, Ansar Abbasi, IK, Azam Swati, etc. means “the dark side” is strong in me, well I would say let me submit to it completely ;-) If this is “slipping up” I hope the “slip-up” is everlasting :-)

    (I am assuming you had no counter argument against the Shireen Mazari, Asif Ezdi, Shahid Kardar, Pepe Escobar, Azam Swati articles posted above, hense the ‘deflection’ ;-) )

  • AGardezi said:

    Salam Alaikum all,

    I am thankful to all for such a profound feedback.

    Cheers

    Azfar Gardezi.

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