As I said before, civilized people;

1) talk there differences out, no matter how many instances it takes

Even Talat’s recent programs on FATA/PATA area is evidence that people of FATA/PATA, NWFP have ALWAYS negotiated peaceful deals with a lot of invaders, even if the negotiations failed at the first attempt.

If other nations conducts talks with militant opposition, why can’t we? We are MUCH BETTER than them. OR at least, we think we are, since we are Muslims. Our standard is MUCH HIGHER than theirs’.

2) resolve their differences in the court of law

3) obey the constitution of a state, before they expect others to do so

That is why I like the StartTrek series. It shows exactly this. It gives a lesson in every episode. The people in StarTrek uphold their directive #1 i.e., the prime directive. Once they obey their own laws, ONLY THEN they have the moral and legal right to challenge ALL others who don’t. That is what they show in this program

If the govt. consists of civilized people, it would show in their intentions and actions. So far, I see nothing to that end.

Dua go,
HarisKhan

I’m afraid too much talk is going on. We are not getting any results. These military operations from the govt. is not making citizens of Pakistan safe.

We don’t see any prudent strategy from current govt. of Pakistan, that hints towards sincerity in their claims.

i.e., The present govt. of Pakistan has no plans what-so-ever. The only thing it has is an order from US to start military operations and that is the only thing that it is doing.

However, we DO have EVERY reason to reject their claims, because of more than enough evidence all around us.

As I said before,

You cannot expect one criminal to suddenly become good and start thinking good of the masses.

You cannot expect one criminal to suddenly start punishing ALL other criminals, untill he himself first bows down to the law and obeys the laws he’s inflicting on others. That is an illusion.

You cannot expect one criminal who continuously breaks constitution of Pakistan to suddenly start doing good for the masses. That is an illusion.

If you are stuck in this illusion, I pity ALL of you

Dua go,
HarisKhan

@supercreature: I did answer your questions before. You just missed the point. You’r like an ordinary Pakistani, who whenever he hears something from the other side, his main focus is to find shortcomings in what was said, rather than concentrating on what the person is actually saying.

I cannot say for certain that Taliban are the cause of all crimes that we have heard of in recent times. Why? Because no investigations have taken place. No evidence has been put forward. Nothing has been proved in the court of law. No miscreants have been caught, tried and sentenced in the court of law.

Secondly, because we don’t have any independent source of information. ALL that we view on mass media in Pakistan is news put forward by ISPR. No journalists, no media personnel, no one is allowed to visit the conflicted area and make an objective assessment.

I will however say this much, that whoever is committing suicide attacks, whoever is spilling and killing innocent blood, they are not doing it for Jihad, they are not doing it for a righteous cause. They are doing it to intentionally spread chaos. To demoralize us. To make us think that there’s something wrong with one part of our society.

If something is not being done for a righteous cause, then no matter what is being done, it is wrong, it is detestable. We should protest against it.

My point in answering your question the hard is way is to save the name “Taliban”. We do NOT want to confuse the word “Taliban” with “criminals”. The label “Taliban” is “given” to too many innocent citizens of Pakistan who have no envolvement in this conflict. We do not want to spread that information which will jeopardize future of these innocent people, just because THEY are!! Taliban.

No matter who these criminals are. I don’t call them “Taliban”. I call them “criminals”. They are criminals. Criminals of the state. They are everything, but Taliban.

You should point your hate, your detestation, your dismissal towards the crimes these criminals commit, not towards a label, that will jeopardize the future of a lot of innocent Pakistani citizens

Keep yourself and your actions in check

Dua go,
HarisKhan

I endorse your comments with the remarks that these sinners deserve much much more than Chatroool.

Tie them upside down and do Chatroool … I bet they will understand

“HAR bande ne marna ka maza chakhna hai. Har bande ke liye marne ka aik waqt muqarrar hai. Us waqt se pehle use koee nahi maar sakta”

Let put it in right context … corrent the muat ka aik waqt muqarar hay … magar kaysay aani hay ya asal baat hay …

1. Suicide, while taking innocent blood = Haram moat
2. Suicide, while taking innocent muslim blood = Haram moat
3. Suicide for personal sake = Haram moat
4. Moat while doing Jahad = Shaheed

If you agree what I wrote above
Where you will put Taliban’s in the context?
I know and every one knows you never answered me when I asked any thing about Taliban’s … that the issue with the these Taliban’s and their lovers like you … you talk about what other people are doing but they are not correcting themself …

This question should be asked in a session of “Jawaab deh”.

However, I see the host of “Jawaab deh” to be softened up to his guests recently.

That totally kills the concept of that program

Dua go,
HarisKhan

I do not want to go in detail on MMA government in NWFP & Balochistan because i do have soft corner for muslim brothers but there were far too many weaknesses be it LFO, air-bases, supply routes… etc etc