Assalam-o-Alakum,
Aaj kel her prograam aik dosrey per sabkat le janey ke liye koshish main masroof hey lekin is ka koee bhee awaam ko faida nahin hey.beroonemulk log yeh samajhtey hain ke pakistaan koee paharee ilaka hey jehaan log gharoon main rehtey hain aur sab dehshat gard hain.aur aisay prograam dikha dikha ker ye image aur bhi pukhta kia ja raha hey.pakistan ki badkismati hey ke isey kabhee koee khairkhwa hakoomat nahin mili.mulk main rehney waley awaam zinda rehney ki namumkin koshish ker rahey hain aur mulk sey bahir pakistani kehlwaney sey sharminda.batain to sabhi bohat kertey hain magar koee hal nahin batata.
I am not sure if JI has offered solutions to our problems. The JI I know is either source or part of problem. They believe in Jihad, supports militants …. and that’s our biggest problem.
@hariskhan
Yes I agree. JI/Religious parties gave us solution of all the problems…
JI/Religious parties gave us 13th amendment and Musharraf ….
they gave us molvi diesal and his brother …
they gave us Jamiat in Lahore … who haras every one in college/school/university … and are famous for their activities like possessing illegal weapon in hostels, killings and hiding wanted people there ….
why on earth religious parties are not united …. your comments gave me impression that … Allah gave us all the solutions of problems … JI/religious parties gave us all the solutions … it means these parties interprete exactly what islam is … and they are great example…. but why they dont show unity in Islam first of all … why they dont show unity among themself… remember MMA is long gone and had major rifts just because of their own reasons
Cogito-Ergo-Sum said:“Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”===xxx===
LACK of KNOWLEDGE —NO EXCUSE ===the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country=== with the management of this remarks if the same survey would not be conducted by us we would never believed!!!!!!!!
“the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country” >>>>
Please give us link or any other reference to that survey.
@hariskhan- the only problem in which we officially involve mullahs is moon siting for eid-ul-fitr. Yet still there are 2 eids in Pakistan every year. Mullahs have no clue how to solve this problem. And you are suggesting to handover whole country to these guys, so that even simple problems become complex.
@hariskhan–I will rephrase your sentence “Bas kuch loago’n ki aqal par parda dala hua hai keh Islam hukoomat say aai ga – is lye woh hokoomat kay peechay bhagte hain”
You said,”Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”
Asal Sawal hee yeh hai keh loag Islam se kion bhagte hein? Kia aap loagon ne Islam ko khofnak naheen bana diya Taliban create kar ke ?
Doosri baat. Agar aap ke pas har masalay ka hal moujood hei to har masaley ko hal kion nahee kar detay. Inn masail ne unn mumalik ko kion choora hua hai jo non-muslim hein ?
I agree with you partially however, this instalment of Live With Talat gives the common man of Pakistan living outside of FATA, a deep insight into Mohmand Agency. This program is invaluable and you are wrong in thinking that this program paints a dismal picture of Pakistan and causes embarrasment for overseas Pakistanis. This program paints a real picture of Mohmand Agency that makes us proud that we have journalists like Talat. This program is aimed at Pakistani audience rather than Western audience, that’s why it’s in Urdu and not in English and this very program Live With Talat has no following in the West as far as the common man goes and believe you me coz I live in the West myself.
I believe that this instalment of Live With Talat gives authentic information about tribal areas not only to common people like us but also people that are in decision-making positions in Pakistan.
Cogito-Ergo-Sum said:@AAM WTF, buddy those comments are not mine “the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country” >>>>Please give us link or any other reference to that survey.==========xxxxxxx============
I had tried my level best but it seems the web site of the Herald is not in working position however one of my friend working in this Organization he’ll be approached ASAP.
Above all regarding this particular Survey the same has been mentioned by Haroon Rashid well known the Columnist 2/3 times openly in OtR – Kashif Abbassi, LwT – before Talat Hussain, if you may not believe so then kindly confirm the same.
Why Talat Hussain have become a spokesman of ISPR and USA?
He was the official guest of Pakistan Embassy in Italy.He spent lot of time with young and beautiful Ambassador Tasneem Aslam and some top Pakistani officials were also present in Rome during the stay of Talat Hussain here.
@Kashif: Dude .. whether you like it or not, we know for a fact that Jihad is here to stay till the end of the world. That is how ALLAH ALMIGHTY like it.
I don’t care about your pathetic .. small .. opinion against Jihad once ALLAH ALMIGHTY/Islam claims something. You are free to do whatever you want. Jihad is here to stay *smile*
One more thing, do NOT confuse Jihad with something that is illegal. Nothing illegal is Jihad. ..and Jihad is ALWAYS done for legal reasons.
@Cogito-Ergo-Sum: I can’t show light to someone who is intentionally trying to remain aloof.
I urge you to keep up with news from ALL over the world, so you are up-to-date on critical matters, at least.
JI/religious parties HAVE proposed solution(s), PTI also agrees with it. Former officials of CIA propose the same solution to this problem. Everyone is talking about it.
I don’t understand how you could have missed so many news headlines?
@hariskhan
Yes I agree. JI/Religious parties gave us solution of all the problems…
JI/Religious parties gave us 13th amendment and Musharraf ….
they gave us molvi diesal and his brother …
they gave us Jamiat in Lahore … who haras every one in college/school/university … and are famous for their activities like possessing illegal weapon in hostels, killings and hiding wanted people there ….
Do you know you’r a “whinner”?
1) That’s the 17th ammendment. That is ALL history. I guess you never read news. You just blame others without any knowledge of what happened?
2) The “molvi diesel” you refer to, runs his own political party. He is backed by thousands (if not millions) of local people of his constituency.
If you have grievances against “molvi diesel”, I suggest you to go to court against him. Give me some hint that you are a civilized person, or you are for civilized way of living life.
oops, I forgot, before you can do that, you need to struggle to get the courts to provide fast, un-biased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice.
I don’t think you’r up to that challenge. I don’t think you have the guts to work for it. I must’v forgotten you are just another one of those who “sit on the sidelines, do nothing, bash others who try and fail”, right?
I pity your worthless, less-knowledgeable existence.
3) Should I take it, you hate Jamee-at, but at the same time, you love ALL the other militant student unions? I guess their existence makes you proud, doesn’t it?
I guess ALL of these people from Jamee-at and other militant student unions came from abroad, eh? They must not be Pakistanis’
Why don’t you ask for military operations against these militants as well?!?!!!
Because, that’s the only thing you can think of, right? That’s the only solution that your brain is capable of?
WHAT DID YOU DO TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION?!?!?!
DO YOU HAVE ANY POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO OUR SOCIETY?!?!!!
You FOOL!!! .. learn history of your people, before you ask stupid questions
@ Harris Khan
I agree with you 100% that there is a solution to every problem in the Quran.
but I am sure you or JI is not in them.
I have very good reason to believe this because i can present some the verses to support my argument from Quran.
like quran says present good arguments and you do the following
“Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”
Look at this great argument of your based exactly on the verse.
1) Untill people of Pakistan vote for leaders who have “credibility” of being steadfast Muslims, who have the capability to improve our situation, who are loyal to Pakistan and people of Pakistan, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
2) Untill people of Pakistan decide to be honest, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
3) Untill people of Pakistan decide that justice is above EVERYTHING else, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
You need leaders who have the credibility that they are NOT criminals.
You need leaders from whom you can expect good
You need leaders who will implement a fast, fair, unbiased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice system.
ONLY after this will Pakistan be able to get on track for prosperity.
When people of Pakistan start being honest, ALL of your grievances about “molvi deisel”, “Jamee-at” and other problems will solve themselves automatically
When a fast, fair, unbiased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice system is implemented in Pakistan, ALL of your grievances about “molvi deisel”, “Jamee-at” and other problems will solve themselves automatically
@Supercreature: I guess you forget molvis’ when they urge calm and help avoid sectarian violence in Pakistan?
I guess you forgot history of Pakistan, about molvis’ comming together in shape of MMA (“tehreek”) at least two times to bring ALL religious community together in unity.
These religious parties are ALWAYS the first to help people of Pakistan in ANY time of strife, conflict, termoil.
You choose to forget much more important facts, than those you choose to remember.
@naughtypakistani: You can whine about 2 EIDs till eternity. Who cares?
You can only convince others to accept law of the land, when YOU YOURSELF show an example, that YOU follow the law of the land, that you are honest, that you are a just people. So far, your every posture as a people, as a government suggests otherwise.
How can you dream of bringing others in the fold, when you YOURSELF are breaking your OWN LAWS?!?!!!
Dream!! on!! dude
You forget, Islam won over the sub-continent when Muslims who FOLLOWED Islam came to this part of the world.
You forget that people of NWFP, FATA chose to join Pakistan voluntarily, because they KNEW Quaid-e-Azam was a good man. He was a good Muslim. He was working for the interest of Muslims.
*sigh* You can’t say this about yourself as a nation, as a government today.
How can you even expect others to abide by your laws when YOU YOURSELF DON’T abide by them?!?!!!
Assalam-o-Alakum,
Aaj kel her prograam aik dosrey per sabkat le janey ke liye koshish main masroof hey lekin is ka koee bhee awaam ko faida nahin hey.beroonemulk log yeh samajhtey hain ke pakistaan koee paharee ilaka hey jehaan log gharoon main rehtey hain aur sab dehshat gard hain.aur aisay prograam dikha dikha ker ye image aur bhi pukhta kia ja raha hey.pakistan ki badkismati hey ke isey kabhee koee khairkhwa hakoomat nahin mili.mulk main rehney waley awaam zinda rehney ki namumkin koshish ker rahey hain aur mulk sey bahir pakistani kehlwaney sey sharminda.batain to sabhi bohat kertey hain magar koee hal nahin batata.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Har masle ka hal JI/religious parties ne dia hai. Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain.
HAR!! masle ka hal maujood!!! hai
Jab ALLAH “Jall-a-Jalalu-hu” ne dunya banaee hai to ALLAH “Jall-a-Jalalu-hu” ne us main jitne bhi masle uth’ne hain, un ka HAL bhi bata dia hai
so .. main phir kehta hoon -> HAR!! masle ka hal maujood!!! hai
Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain
Dua go,
HarisKhan
@HarisKhan
I am not sure if JI has offered solutions to our problems. The JI I know is either source or part of problem. They believe in Jihad, supports militants …. and that’s our biggest problem.
@HarisKhan
“Har masle ka hal JI/religious parties ne dia hai” >>>
Why don’t JI/religious parties (shd be read hypocrite parties) have solution to following MASLA ?
“Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”
@hariskhan
Yes I agree. JI/Religious parties gave us solution of all the problems…
JI/Religious parties gave us 13th amendment and Musharraf ….
they gave us molvi diesal and his brother …
they gave us Jamiat in Lahore … who haras every one in college/school/university … and are famous for their activities like possessing illegal weapon in hostels, killings and hiding wanted people there ….
@hariskhan
why on earth religious parties are not united …. your comments gave me impression that … Allah gave us all the solutions of problems … JI/religious parties gave us all the solutions … it means these parties interprete exactly what islam is … and they are great example…. but why they dont show unity in Islam first of all … why they dont show unity among themself… remember MMA is long gone and had major rifts just because of their own reasons
Cogito-Ergo-Sum said:“Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”===xxx===
LACK of KNOWLEDGE —NO EXCUSE ===the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country=== with the management of this remarks if the same survey would not be conducted by us we would never believed!!!!!!!!
@AAM
WTF, buddy those comments are not mine
“the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country” >>>>
Please give us link or any other reference to that survey.
@hariskhan- the only problem in which we officially involve mullahs is moon siting for eid-ul-fitr. Yet still there are 2 eids in Pakistan every year. Mullahs have no clue how to solve this problem. And you are suggesting to handover whole country to these guys, so that even simple problems become complex.
@hariskhan–I will rephrase your sentence “Bas kuch loago’n ki aqal par parda dala hua hai keh Islam hukoomat say aai ga – is lye woh hokoomat kay peechay bhagte hain”
@Haris Khan
You said,”Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”
Asal Sawal hee yeh hai keh loag Islam se kion bhagte hein? Kia aap loagon ne Islam ko khofnak naheen bana diya Taliban create kar ke ?
Doosri baat. Agar aap ke pas har masalay ka hal moujood hei to har masaley ko hal kion nahee kar detay. Inn masail ne unn mumalik ko kion choora hua hai jo non-muslim hein ?
@ Atiqa
I agree with you partially however, this instalment of Live With Talat gives the common man of Pakistan living outside of FATA, a deep insight into Mohmand Agency. This program is invaluable and you are wrong in thinking that this program paints a dismal picture of Pakistan and causes embarrasment for overseas Pakistanis. This program paints a real picture of Mohmand Agency that makes us proud that we have journalists like Talat. This program is aimed at Pakistani audience rather than Western audience, that’s why it’s in Urdu and not in English and this very program Live With Talat has no following in the West as far as the common man goes and believe you me coz I live in the West myself.
I believe that this instalment of Live With Talat gives authentic information about tribal areas not only to common people like us but also people that are in decision-making positions in Pakistan.
Good work Talat, keep it up!
Cogito-Ergo-Sum said:@AAM WTF, buddy those comments are not mine
“the subsidiary of DAWN ===The HERALD===conducted a Survey few years back therein more than 84% demanded ===ISLAMIC SHARIA LAWs in this beloved country” >>>>Please give us link or any other reference to that survey.==========xxxxxxx============
I had tried my level best but it seems the web site of the Herald is not in working position however one of my friend working in this Organization he’ll be approached ASAP.
Above all regarding this particular Survey the same has been mentioned by Haroon Rashid well known the Columnist 2/3 times openly in OtR – Kashif Abbassi, LwT – before Talat Hussain, if you may not believe so then kindly confirm the same.
Why Talat Hussain have become a spokesman of ISPR and USA?
He was the official guest of Pakistan Embassy in Italy.He spent lot of time with young and beautiful Ambassador Tasneem Aslam and some top Pakistani officials were also present in Rome during the stay of Talat Hussain here.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Kashif: Dude .. whether you like it or not, we know for a fact that Jihad is here to stay till the end of the world. That is how ALLAH ALMIGHTY like it.
I don’t care about your pathetic .. small .. opinion against Jihad once ALLAH ALMIGHTY/Islam claims something. You are free to do whatever you want. Jihad is here to stay *smile*
One more thing, do NOT confuse Jihad with something that is illegal. Nothing illegal is Jihad. ..and Jihad is ALWAYS done for legal reasons.
@Cogito-Ergo-Sum: I can’t show light to someone who is intentionally trying to remain aloof.
I urge you to keep up with news from ALL over the world, so you are up-to-date on critical matters, at least.
JI/religious parties HAVE proposed solution(s), PTI also agrees with it. Former officials of CIA propose the same solution to this problem. Everyone is talking about it.
I don’t understand how you could have missed so many news headlines?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Do you know you’r a “whinner”?
1) That’s the 17th ammendment. That is ALL history. I guess you never read news. You just blame others without any knowledge of what happened?
2) The “molvi diesel” you refer to, runs his own political party. He is backed by thousands (if not millions) of local people of his constituency.
If you have grievances against “molvi diesel”, I suggest you to go to court against him. Give me some hint that you are a civilized person, or you are for civilized way of living life.
oops, I forgot, before you can do that, you need to struggle to get the courts to provide fast, un-biased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice.
I don’t think you’r up to that challenge. I don’t think you have the guts to work for it. I must’v forgotten you are just another one of those who “sit on the sidelines, do nothing, bash others who try and fail”, right?
I pity your worthless, less-knowledgeable existence.
3) Should I take it, you hate Jamee-at, but at the same time, you love ALL the other militant student unions? I guess their existence makes you proud, doesn’t it?
I guess ALL of these people from Jamee-at and other militant student unions came from abroad, eh? They must not be Pakistanis’
Why don’t you ask for military operations against these militants as well?!?!!!
Because, that’s the only thing you can think of, right? That’s the only solution that your brain is capable of?
WHAT DID YOU DO TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION?!?!?!
DO YOU HAVE ANY POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO OUR SOCIETY?!?!!!
You FOOL!!! .. learn history of your people, before you ask stupid questions
@ Harris Khan
I agree with you 100% that there is a solution to every problem in the Quran.
but I am sure you or JI is not in them.
I have very good reason to believe this because i can present some the verses to support my argument from Quran.
like quran says present good arguments and you do the following
“Bas loago’n ki ankho’n par parda dala hua hai kyoon ke wo Islam se bhagte hain”
Look at this great argument of your based exactly on the verse.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
I have said it before, and I’ll say it again;
1) Untill people of Pakistan vote for leaders who have “credibility” of being steadfast Muslims, who have the capability to improve our situation, who are loyal to Pakistan and people of Pakistan, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
2) Untill people of Pakistan decide to be honest, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
3) Untill people of Pakistan decide that justice is above EVERYTHING else, there is no HOPE for Pakistan
You need leaders who have the credibility that they are NOT criminals.
You need leaders from whom you can expect good
You need leaders who will implement a fast, fair, unbiased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice system.
ONLY after this will Pakistan be able to get on track for prosperity.
When people of Pakistan start being honest, ALL of your grievances about “molvi deisel”, “Jamee-at” and other problems will solve themselves automatically
When a fast, fair, unbiased, non-discriminatory, across the board justice system is implemented in Pakistan, ALL of your grievances about “molvi deisel”, “Jamee-at” and other problems will solve themselves automatically
Dua go,
HarisKhan
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@justice: I don’t have time for you. You troll endlessly without any good reason
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@naughtypakistani: What can I say about a person who doesn’t even know what is happening in his own country?
Molvi do MUCH more than what you think they do
If your aloof, how can you blame others for it?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Supercreature: I guess you forget molvis’ when they urge calm and help avoid sectarian violence in Pakistan?
I guess you forgot history of Pakistan, about molvis’ comming together in shape of MMA (“tehreek”) at least two times to bring ALL religious community together in unity.
These religious parties are ALWAYS the first to help people of Pakistan in ANY time of strife, conflict, termoil.
You choose to forget much more important facts, than those you choose to remember.
How can you blame others for it?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@naughtypakistani: You can whine about 2 EIDs till eternity. Who cares?
You can only convince others to accept law of the land, when YOU YOURSELF show an example, that YOU follow the law of the land, that you are honest, that you are a just people. So far, your every posture as a people, as a government suggests otherwise.
How can you dream of bringing others in the fold, when you YOURSELF are breaking your OWN LAWS?!?!!!
Dream!! on!! dude
You forget, Islam won over the sub-continent when Muslims who FOLLOWED Islam came to this part of the world.
You forget that people of NWFP, FATA chose to join Pakistan voluntarily, because they KNEW Quaid-e-Azam was a good man. He was a good Muslim. He was working for the interest of Muslims.
*sigh* You can’t say this about yourself as a nation, as a government today.
How can you even expect others to abide by your laws when YOU YOURSELF DON’T abide by them?!?!!!
What you’r proposing is hypocrisy!! at its best
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@naughtypakistani: This!! (breaking your own laws yet asking others to follow it) is a loud example of “munafqat”
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