Nadeem Malik with a new episode of Islamabad Tonight discussing future operations of war on terror. Today’s guests are Kamran Shafi (Analyst) and D. Mehdi Hassan (Analyst).
Before watching this show completely, if I am allowed to speculate, I would say that;
- the bombings taking place recently are being done by pawns of General McCrystal of USA.
- the bombing on Bus of Kahoota is an “operation” from General McCrystal of USA, who has recently been assigned to operate in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I say that, because it is widely known in international media that General McCrystal has established his credibility as the man for conducting “targetted killings” in Iraq. He has done his work successfully in Iraq.
I would go as far as to speculate, that General McCrystal is behind ALL the suicide bombings and killings that have taken place in recent months.
His profile matches these incidents and his appointment by US to operate in this region is further evidence of the same.
He’s the dog USA is using for targetted killings/assassinations in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It’s the science of terror to manipulate opinions of the masses to facilitate US/Nato’s / Israel’s / Neocon’s agenda.
I don’t think hitting a bus carrying Kahoota personel can be done by anyone inside Pakistan. No criminal, even if he’s a Pakistani will do it. There is no history of any such incidents, there’s no evidence of any such incident in the past.
The only elements capable of conducting this bombing are foreign elements i.e., Pakistan’s enemies -> they are -> USA/Israel, India.
The only one who can benefit from such incidents are USA/Israel, India
This is my speculation, before watching this video completely
@Hariskhan—You are under the influence of Taliban Hasheesh. Are you suggesting that the guys who are blowing them up are in fact T-series robots with “Made in USA” embossed on their skulls LøL. Watch the program by Salim Safi today and come out of denial mode.
We have to design a programme for the whole generation which was radicalized since the Jihad days.
1) We need to rehabilitate them and mainstream most of the groups.
2) Only hardcore elements should be taken care of by use of force.
3) Military operation should be swift only surgical strikes.
4) Police force should be upgraded and equipped with modern weapons.
5) Set up local systems under the law of the land on every inch of Pakistan.
I have a concern that army is over-stretching its role, which could be devastating if the war prolongs. Army operations should remain surgical. Its deployment should be on strategic locations to deter the enemey to create a fear for those who challenge writ of the state, but continuous combat role is full of risk.
Mehdi Hasan is well known zionist agent. Their agenda is to divide the people and ensure they keep fighting until Pak armed forces are so weak that they cannot resist their attack on nuclear installations. Why this host is not asking them about where the sophisticated weapons are coming from. These talibans or whoever they are actually zionist agents too.
Watch Talat’s program from Itlay where he says the FM transmitters were specially designed for mountanous areas, and now that Italian jammers are in use, they have changed trnasmitters to a low band (pre-designed in them) that the jammers cannot jam.
So did these taliban make them or did they come from India or Israel?
We have provided free for all type playing ground to all foreign and domestic spy agencies on our territory. I watched that episode of this programme with Mushahid and Mehmood Achakzai and again that with Imran Khan yesterday crying the fallout of poor policies that we followed as American ally.
Enough is enough. We want to live as a respectable Pakistani nation. Pl end all cunning approaches on our homeland. Our Generals, politicians are responsible to create that vaccum where these evil forces, both domestic and foreign hands, like India and US, was able to take advantage of the situation.
After KRL bus attack, someone sent SMS saying that it was an act engineered by new US General Machristal in Afghanistan, who is known to carry out such operations in Iraq as head of special operations force that led to killing of a large number of civilians. Thousands of Iraqis were killed and he claims credit of killing Zarqawi.
The message claimed he is going to apply same brutal tactics here.
It is quite obvious that these military operations have failed. This war is not our war. This is zionist and crusaders war that our Government has joined so that Zardari can get billions of dollars for his swiss accounts.
Pakistani people are paying a huge price.
Another news American embassy in Pakistan has acquired 5000 Sq miles of land where biggest spy center of the world outside USA is being established. Whatever semblance of soverignity we have so far will also be gone. Keep in mind that CIA already has a most sophisticated center close to Terbela dam.
Time is not far when drone attacks will be targetting Islambad, Lahore, Karachi.
Where are we standing?/
@AAM, there is one main difference, American marijuana’s influence is shortlived, whereas a “Hasheeshain” ends up blowing him up dreaming 72 virgins.
President Bush was the worst president in American history. The guy who hurled shoes on Bush is alive, can you dare to throw a shoe to Baitullah or Fazlullah and get away with your body in one piece? I wonder, who is following the Islamic code of ethics?
Ok do not dream 72 virgins but your limit must be equal to American States (in other words more than 50) which may satisfy you & your Jiyala Party, in short i.e. only for PPP Jiyalays ki Zaihny aur Jismani Asoodgi Kay Wastay.
Mr. Jazbati, Stupid Cum naughtypakistani: In which holy book this is written without hearing to your against group you can make up your final decision, I never seen a Judge in my entire life without hearing another Respondent Reply the Judge passes the Final Decree.
Unless De-Facto or Premie Fecie Case.
In similar matter how can we make up our mind & declare finally & decisively any thing against Taliban/Alqaida without hearing them, don’t you use your common sense that GoP own Propaganda Machinery Claim that Taliban Accepted the Bomb Blast!?
On the other hand Army already accepted there are 8 major factions of Taliban plus other 22 pocket size groups of Taliban/Alqaida interestingly they do not have permanent situated place in form of any H.Q. whereupon they can issue any next line of action or any statement issue regarding their previous action. But every thing is possible for our Army Generals, Zardari/Elite of PPP & America.
Jis Kay Mathay/forehead pur Cho_ia yah Lulloparshad Emborsed hoa Hoga Wohi One Sided Baat Ka Yaqeen Karay Gaa. Samjhay Mr.n’typakistani.
@AAM, considering your own logic, how did you declare me a jyala (An evidence of one sided baat, check your forehead— LøL)? For indiscriminate killing a headquarter is not needed. Yes there are loosely connected small taliban groups around a core called Alqaida. Their mission is to take over Pakistan using terror tactics, and their sympathizers like you are facilitating them on intellectual front.
i did not find a single statement which was not appropriately backed by the text.
if we do not believe in text or reason/logic we can be
one of the following
1.PTI
2.JI
3.JUI
4.Taliban
worst of all JI because it is still supporting terrorist in pakistan and providing them logistics and finances to kill their own neighbours/fellow citizens in the name of their mental sickness which they call “islam”
Where as true Islam has nothing to do with them as this tradition implies from the Prophet
“there will be group of people who will recite Quran day and night loudly but iman will not even go below their throats”(it is not an exact translation)
@justice: You are and have been, for military operation. Well, has it given any output to us so far?
Give us examples in shape of hard facts.
We/I have given examples in shape of hard facts. Its high time you started doing the same so we can see the validity of your statements.
I believe this conflict is pro-longing. It has started and there is no end to it.
IDPs have not been restored on their land. Taliban fighters have been disseminated, not finished. Economy of FATA/PATA and NWFP lies in ruins. There is ZERO governance in these areas.
What are you basing your allegations on against PTI, JI, JUI?
Failures of Pak Govt. and Pak military in achieving any of their set objectives?
Common man! Stop your blame game. Talk facts.
Show us the positive output from these military operations? Tell us how it has brought peace into the lives of IDPs? Tell us how it has helped restore economics of FATA/PATA, NWFP? Give us examples in shape of hard facts.
This rhetoric of yours is wearing thinner day by day
US/Nato is establishing their embassies in Peshawar and Islamabad. They are expanding their operations within our country. They are expanding the conflict in Afghanistan.
Where’s the peace that you are telling us about with respect to these military operations?
naughtypakistani said:@AAM, considering your own logic, how did you declare me a jyala (An evidence of one sided baat, check your forehead— LøL)=====xxxxxx======
Because you’ve toed the peculiar mind set Line of Jiyala & Co. It is supposed not then why you are agreed with their Line of Action – Stupid Query?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Before watching this show completely, if I am allowed to speculate, I would say that;
- the bombings taking place recently are being done by pawns of General McCrystal of USA.
- the bombing on Bus of Kahoota is an “operation” from General McCrystal of USA, who has recently been assigned to operate in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I say that, because it is widely known in international media that General McCrystal has established his credibility as the man for conducting “targetted killings” in Iraq. He has done his work successfully in Iraq.
I would go as far as to speculate, that General McCrystal is behind ALL the suicide bombings and killings that have taken place in recent months.
His profile matches these incidents and his appointment by US to operate in this region is further evidence of the same.
He’s the dog USA is using for targetted killings/assassinations in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
It’s the science of terror to manipulate opinions of the masses to facilitate US/Nato’s / Israel’s / Neocon’s agenda.
I don’t think hitting a bus carrying Kahoota personel can be done by anyone inside Pakistan. No criminal, even if he’s a Pakistani will do it. There is no history of any such incidents, there’s no evidence of any such incident in the past.
The only elements capable of conducting this bombing are foreign elements i.e., Pakistan’s enemies -> they are -> USA/Israel, India.
The only one who can benefit from such incidents are USA/Israel, India
This is my speculation, before watching this video completely
Dua go,
HarisKhan
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
This Mehdi Hassan guy seems to be a total nutcase.
Most of what he said was non-sense. Not all of it, but most of it
Dua go,
HarisKhan
@Hariskhan—You are under the influence of Taliban Hasheesh. Are you suggesting that the guys who are blowing them up are in fact T-series robots with “Made in USA” embossed on their skulls LøL. Watch the program by Salim Safi today and come out of denial mode.
We have to design a programme for the whole generation which was radicalized since the Jihad days.
1) We need to rehabilitate them and mainstream most of the groups.
2) Only hardcore elements should be taken care of by use of force.
3) Military operation should be swift only surgical strikes.
4) Police force should be upgraded and equipped with modern weapons.
5) Set up local systems under the law of the land on every inch of Pakistan.
I have a concern that army is over-stretching its role, which could be devastating if the war prolongs. Army operations should remain surgical. Its deployment should be on strategic locations to deter the enemey to create a fear for those who challenge writ of the state, but continuous combat role is full of risk.
Mehdi Hasan is well known zionist agent. Their agenda is to divide the people and ensure they keep fighting until Pak armed forces are so weak that they cannot resist their attack on nuclear installations. Why this host is not asking them about where the sophisticated weapons are coming from. These talibans or whoever they are actually zionist agents too.
Watch Talat’s program from Itlay where he says the FM transmitters were specially designed for mountanous areas, and now that Italian jammers are in use, they have changed trnasmitters to a low band (pre-designed in them) that the jammers cannot jam.
So did these taliban make them or did they come from India or Israel?
We have provided free for all type playing ground to all foreign and domestic spy agencies on our territory. I watched that episode of this programme with Mushahid and Mehmood Achakzai and again that with Imran Khan yesterday crying the fallout of poor policies that we followed as American ally.
Enough is enough. We want to live as a respectable Pakistani nation. Pl end all cunning approaches on our homeland. Our Generals, politicians are responsible to create that vaccum where these evil forces, both domestic and foreign hands, like India and US, was able to take advantage of the situation.
After KRL bus attack, someone sent SMS saying that it was an act engineered by new US General Machristal in Afghanistan, who is known to carry out such operations in Iraq as head of special operations force that led to killing of a large number of civilians. Thousands of Iraqis were killed and he claims credit of killing Zarqawi.
The message claimed he is going to apply same brutal tactics here.
It is quite obvious that these military operations have failed. This war is not our war. This is zionist and crusaders war that our Government has joined so that Zardari can get billions of dollars for his swiss accounts.
Pakistani people are paying a huge price.
Another news American embassy in Pakistan has acquired 5000 Sq miles of land where biggest spy center of the world outside USA is being established. Whatever semblance of soverignity we have so far will also be gone. Keep in mind that CIA already has a most sophisticated center close to Terbela dam.
Time is not far when drone attacks will be targetting Islambad, Lahore, Karachi.
Where are we standing?/
@Wajahat
Stop this BS !
How can you give credit of our brave Talibans fidaii attack to American Zionists ?
naughtypakistani: If someone is under influence of Taliban Hasheesh, on the other hand, it is understood you’re under influenced of the followings:
American Marijuana, Commission Agency of Pak Army Generals in Arms Dealing, Americanization & of course the Dentonic Powder of Zardari.
@AAM, there is one main difference, American marijuana’s influence is shortlived, whereas a “Hasheeshain” ends up blowing him up dreaming 72 virgins.
President Bush was the worst president in American history. The guy who hurled shoes on Bush is alive, can you dare to throw a shoe to Baitullah or Fazlullah and get away with your body in one piece? I wonder, who is following the Islamic code of ethics?
Ok do not dream 72 virgins but your limit must be equal to American States (in other words more than 50) which may satisfy you & your Jiyala Party, in short i.e. only for PPP Jiyalays ki Zaihny aur Jismani Asoodgi Kay Wastay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RofWY8Op9ws&feature=related
Mr. Jazbati, Stupid Cum naughtypakistani: In which holy book this is written without hearing to your against group you can make up your final decision, I never seen a Judge in my entire life without hearing another Respondent Reply the Judge passes the Final Decree.
Unless De-Facto or Premie Fecie Case.
In similar matter how can we make up our mind & declare finally & decisively any thing against Taliban/Alqaida without hearing them, don’t you use your common sense that GoP own Propaganda Machinery Claim that Taliban Accepted the Bomb Blast!?
On the other hand Army already accepted there are 8 major factions of Taliban plus other 22 pocket size groups of Taliban/Alqaida interestingly they do not have permanent situated place in form of any H.Q. whereupon they can issue any next line of action or any statement issue regarding their previous action. But every thing is possible for our Army Generals, Zardari/Elite of PPP & America.
Jis Kay Mathay/forehead pur Cho_ia yah Lulloparshad Emborsed hoa Hoga Wohi One Sided Baat Ka Yaqeen Karay Gaa. Samjhay Mr.n’typakistani.
@AAM, considering your own logic, how did you declare me a jyala (An evidence of one sided baat, check your forehead— LøL)? For indiscriminate killing a headquarter is not needed. Yes there are loosely connected small taliban groups around a core called Alqaida. Their mission is to take over Pakistan using terror tactics, and their sympathizers like you are facilitating them on intellectual front.
EXCELLENT PROGRAM.
DEATH TO TALIBAN!
KILL ALL TALIBAN!
MAKE A LESSON OUT OF TALIBAN!
DON’T STOP THE MILITARY OPERATION TILL TALIBAN ARE ALL KILLED OR TILL THEY SURRENDER.
I find Dr Mehdi Hassan a voice of reason.
i did not find a single statement which was not appropriately backed by the text.
if we do not believe in text or reason/logic we can be
one of the following
1.PTI
2.JI
3.JUI
4.Taliban
worst of all JI because it is still supporting terrorist in pakistan and providing them logistics and finances to kill their own neighbours/fellow citizens in the name of their mental sickness which they call “islam”
Where as true Islam has nothing to do with them as this tradition implies from the Prophet
“there will be group of people who will recite Quran day and night loudly but iman will not even go below their throats”(it is not an exact translation)
طالبان دا تے اونہاں دے حمایتیاں دا بہت ہی زیادہ در فٹے منہ
لعنت الله علی القوم الظالمین
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@justice: You are and have been, for military operation. Well, has it given any output to us so far?
Give us examples in shape of hard facts.
We/I have given examples in shape of hard facts. Its high time you started doing the same so we can see the validity of your statements.
I believe this conflict is pro-longing. It has started and there is no end to it.
IDPs have not been restored on their land. Taliban fighters have been disseminated, not finished. Economy of FATA/PATA and NWFP lies in ruins. There is ZERO governance in these areas.
What are you basing your allegations on against PTI, JI, JUI?
Failures of Pak Govt. and Pak military in achieving any of their set objectives?
Common man! Stop your blame game. Talk facts.
Show us the positive output from these military operations? Tell us how it has brought peace into the lives of IDPs? Tell us how it has helped restore economics of FATA/PATA, NWFP? Give us examples in shape of hard facts.
This rhetoric of yours is wearing thinner day by day
US/Nato is establishing their embassies in Peshawar and Islamabad. They are expanding their operations within our country. They are expanding the conflict in Afghanistan.
Where’s the peace that you are telling us about with respect to these military operations?
How has it made people of Pakistan safe?
Dua go,
HarisKhan
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