mujhay haer bayar marri sahib kee batain sun kay bhut takleef hoyee eur un kee batain sun kay her pakistani upset ho ga eur main umeed kerta hoo kay hamari govt es cheez ka koi solution nakalay ge. blouch hamaray bhai hain blouchistan pakistan ka hisa hey
Najam Shethi did asked some strong questions but some how I was not impressed with his style and body language. He (NS) looked like that he was enjoying Muri’s answers rather than upset or hurt, which in normal circumstances every patriotic Pakistani should be. Infact he was smiling through out, and I really dont understand how can a genuine patriotic pakistani jounalist can smile on those replies.
Haer Bayar is idiot with a IQ of a retarded person. He has no sense what so ever. He did admitted during the interview that some super power is helping them and yet he knows nothing about funding. KAMBAKHT KO BETHEY BETHEY MAUT HI AA JAI. AMIN.
interesting point Najam Sethi never asked is when in power in Balochistan, what all these sardars did for their nation. including Mengal and buggati, how many schools and universities did these guys establish, how many women are allowed to study in their intitutions.
That Harbiya is travelling on Pakistani Passport, if he is Baloach National why he does not surrender Pakistani passport and tell all his other family members to do the same. and get Afghan nationality and run his movement from there which they already are with the help of India and USA and probably Russia.
This man Sethi is on amission.Guys just recall your memories when ISI gave a nice chitrol and litrol when he spoke against Pakistan in India in 90s.
we pakistani give no importance to these nawabs because Nawabs never brought INQALAB if you look back into the history of revolutions.
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
Pakistan is a land of feudal lords, run by feudal lords for feudal lords. Since its birth one group of feudal lords is always seen as competing against another group of feudal lords with same caste and clan names on both sides, while loyalties keep shifting.
Apparently, all these western educated sardars, waderas, jagirdars, nawabs, makhdooms, jats, gujjars and rajpoots living luxurious life, only want is, to first take over the government so that they can provide a lot of rights, economic benefits and good life to their people who they claim to represent.
My question is very simple and please help. What the F..k have they done for those whom they head as lords and control, for the past 300 years since British gave them these lands and titles?
It is fact that Bugti asked federal govrnment in 1973 to assist provincial government. Bugti himself admitted in an interview that he killed the very first human being at the age of 10 and after murdering 100 he stopped counting. It is also a fact Balochi Awam has been deprived by their own people and supported by establishment
Mr fgKhan do you Know the history? When pakistan came into being?
for ur kind of Information Balochistan was already independent before Pakistan get Independence… In feb 1948 Balochistan was forced to become a part of pakistan on the basis of islam…
I want to ask some questions….
Is there any law in Pakistan?
Is there any constitution in Pakistan?
Tell me why the heroes of this country were sent to Jail or Assassinated (Dr Abdul Qadeer khan, Liaqat Ali khan, Zulfiqar ali bhutto etc)
Is there any safe place in Pakistan?
What happend with the chief Justice when he Called the officers of ISI(The angels of this country they never do any kind of Mistake) in court?
Is there any Law for Elite class?
No sardar But every single person of Balochistan wants freedom….
Did u ever ask a question to a Baloch that what is going in Balochistan?
What did pakistani army do with Bangladeshi womens, childeren ?
same situation in Balochistan…
Every day people killed in balochistan by Pakistani army and Agencies.
Guyzzz for God sake dont get impressed by this Mr Marri, he does not even have courage to face the people he is just normal traitor.
@ redproject:
my friend u might just only knows Pakistan history, if u look around the world u probably be horrified by the ground realities of various countries. As a new nation we developed so much that the rest of the world specially west got jealous and started to interfere, from the day one of independence they got the feeling if a Muslim nation can start struggling as they did for the independence, it would be very challenging for the western world to control the Asia
i assume u are also influenced by the western history. They had obviously wrote history to benefit their way.. for your kind info the blouch leaders did sign the treaty under British Raj for Pakistan but they got hijacked again by the British in 1950, but then it was already became a part of Pakistan so how could expect to be get separated??? (kindly read ur own writers history)
That time when punjab was busy to start building a strong nation, they stood for Pakistan everywhere! Punjabi have struggled all the way since Pakistan independence u guys just creates anxiety within your communitis and thats all what have you gained in these last 60 years! just hatred with in ur own community with ur pathetic feudalism.
Balochistan is undoubtedly an undeclared Colony of Pakistan ………… since 1947 we have never been accepted as equal province ……….. Our mouth-watering resources have always been a matter of attraction for Punjab …………… let’s leave the old stories ……….. Now days the number of missing persons is rising ……….. In the city of Quetta if u want to enter the Cantonment: area is same as you are crossing a border …….. Or a Palestinian entering into Israel ………… why? I have been in all major cities like Lahore Karachi but there is no such issue while you enter the cantonment area ………. The agony/hatred of people of Balochistan against Punjab is on peak ………………. Azad Balochistan ………. Balochistan Punjabio ka Kabristaan ……… and many such slogans are seen as you move on to Baloch populated areas ………… there is a great need to take major steps otherwise ………….. Case of Dhaka is not far behind……………
غلام کا غلام!!. جب بھی کسی قوم کو ایسے دیوار سے لگایا جاتا ہے تو ایسی آزادی کی تحریکیں اٹھتی ہیں. بلوچستان میں امریکی انٹرسٹس ہیں اسکی سب سے بڑی وجہ گوادر پورٹ ہے. اور جیسے تاریخ بتاتی ہے امریکا اپنے مفادات کے لئے آزاد بلوچستان کو support کرنے سے گریز نہیں کرےگا .جوin the long run اسکو ایران پر دباؤ بڑھانے میں بھی مدد دے گا.امریکی اور برطانویوں نے اپنے مفادات کی ہی وجہ سے Europe میں کوسووو جیسی مسلم ریاست کو مان لیا.بلوچستان کا پروبلم ائر لینڈ کی طرز پر حل ہو سکتا ہے مگر اسکے لئے ایک سیاسی قیادّت چاہیے. ہمیں یہ ماننا پڑے گا کہ بلوچوں سے زیادتیاں ہویی ہیں مگر انکا حل ہرگز الگ ملک میں نہیں ہے.پر جب بھی گھٹن ہوتی ہے تو لو بھی ٹھنڈی لگتی ہے. اسی وجہ سے الگ ملک کی ڈیمانڈ بلوچوں کے لئے کشش کا سبب رہے گی اگر ہم انکو ایک مقبوضہ علاقے کی طرح ٹریٹ کریں گے
It is totally incorrect to say Baluchistan was an Independent Sovereign State. As per Independence Act of India The British Government had offered to The Princely States the option to either join India, Pakistan or remain independent. Hyderabad chose to remain independent but was conquered by India in September 11, 1948. They began the invasion the day Qaed e Azam died.
The major princely States were Hyderabad, Kashmir, Mysore, perhaps Gwalior. Baluchistan was not in that league at all. Baluchistan was an agency run by British Political agents. It was never a Princely State like Hyderabad or Kashmir or even Junagadh. From where Mr. Haer Bari Marri concocts this story is beyond imagination.
These little sardars had given up all the mineral rights against payment to the Government of British India and when it came under Pakistan. You can’t have the cake and eat it too.
Some extracts from history of Baluchistan:
Traversed by the armies of Alexander the Great, occupied by the Arabs, Afghans and Persians, conducting its foreign trade through Omani-held port of Gwadar, Kalat, together with its vassal states of Kharan, Makran and Lasbela entered the modern era by the way of contacts with Britishers of various quality. The political connection of the British with Kalat commences from the outbreak of the First Afghan War in 1839, when this area was traversed by a British army from Sind and afterwards occupied. In the British attack on Kalat in 1840, Mir Mehrak Khan, the ruler, was killed. His son, Mir Nasir Khan II was later raised to the masnad by the tribesmen and regained possession of Kalat. In 1842, consequent upon the British withdrawal from Afghanistan, the occupied districts were returned to the Khan of Kalat. The British negotiated with the Kalat State in 1854 and according to the terms of the treaty, British political agents were deputed to Kalat during the next twenty years. In 1874 Sir Robert Sandeman was sent to Baluchistan whose policy was one of conciliatory intervention, tempered with lucrative employment and light taxation. Shortly afterwards he was able to conclude with Khan Khudardad Khan of Kalat the treaty of 1876, which brought Kalat under the British sovereignty and provided stronger political control. To consolidate the territorial extension already made, Baluchistan was made a separate agency under an agent to the Governor General. At the end of the Second Afghan War by the treaty of Gandamak (May,1879), Oishin, Sibi, Harani and Thal-Chotiali were ceded by Amir Yaqub Khan of Kabul to the British Government. During the succeeding years, expeditions were led against the Lalars of Zhob and Bori and the chiefs of Sirhani and those areas were occupied. In 1887, all these areas were declared to be the British territory. In 1883, the Quetta Niabat (presently Quetta Tehsil) and the Bolan Pass were permanently taken on lease by the British from Kalat State. In 1899, Nushki and in 1903, the area irrigated by the Sind canals, known as the Nasirabad Subdivision was similarly acquired from the Kalat State on a perpetual lease. In 1940, the relation between the Kalat Khanate and the Chiefdom of Kharan became strained there were clashes between them in Warjak and Khudabadam villages. The British authorities intervened and the settlement was affected under which Kharan, Makran and Lasbela were recognized as a separate minor states under the direct control of the British Political Agent. In 1948, Kalat State formally ( but not entirely voluntarily) acceded to Pakistan and became part of the Baluchistan States Union.
From where they bring rest of the story? They were just an agency for the British to rule over. Rest is all rubbish.
It is important to go into real history and these tiny sardars who are the tyrants for the local people who never allow development are behind all these movements and fooling people. Baluchistan is of the local people of Paksitan. Nobody is taking it away. But remember it is for people not for tyrants like Bugti, Mengals or Marri’s etc.
From Historical Facts:
Extract: ———————————————————————————————
The two terms “British India” and “Princely State” are mutually exclusive. If somewhere was in British India it was not a Princely State, and if it was a Princely State it was not in British India. British India was Bombay, Sind, British Baluchistan, North West Frontier Province, Punjab, United Provinces, Central Provinces, Madras, Bihar, Orissa, Bengal and Assam. The 140 large, and 420 small states that made up the rest of India were not part of British India.
——————————————————————————————————-
You can see above British Baluchistan is under the British otherwise it would not make this list. Princely States are not in the British list but Baluchistan is. It is utter nonsense to claim independence. This only to do such that the poor people of Baluchistan do not rise up against the cruel sardars. Ask one Baloch what kind of people these sardars are. The do not allow schools, roads and development. They want to be dependent on them.
Pakistan is better for us poor Balochs not the sardars. Please help us Pakistan and the world. We plead.
mr gengiz u have ur self used the word kalat state which means kalat was a state and a country.. and one thing u must know that history is always written by the conqueror according to his own wish not by those who have been defeated or subjugated .. And the sardari system is prevalent in few parts of balochistan and that 2 on the pattern which the government has demanded and for ur knowledge there is no sardari system in makran area which includes turbat , gawadar, panjgur, pasni,,,,,,,,, then tell me why the people of these areas r deprived of common necessity of life,,, a sick person has to travel thousand miles to get treatment and if a person wants quality eduacation than there is no institution in that area which can provide him good education,, and just a reminder to u that in all balochistan the sardars who u c on media or not the real one they r product of agencies,,,for e.g zulfiqar magsi,jam yousaf, yar muhammad rind the self proclaimed sanaullah zehri
mujhay haer bayar marri sahib kee batain sun kay bhut takleef hoyee eur un kee batain sun kay her pakistani upset ho ga eur main umeed kerta hoo kay hamari govt es cheez ka koi solution nakalay ge. blouch hamaray bhai hain blouchistan pakistan ka hisa hey
Najam Shethi did asked some strong questions but some how I was not impressed with his style and body language. He (NS) looked like that he was enjoying Muri’s answers rather than upset or hurt, which in normal circumstances every patriotic Pakistani should be. Infact he was smiling through out, and I really dont understand how can a genuine patriotic pakistani jounalist can smile on those replies.
Haer Bayar is idiot with a IQ of a retarded person. He has no sense what so ever. He did admitted during the interview that some super power is helping them and yet he knows nothing about funding. KAMBAKHT KO BETHEY BETHEY MAUT HI AA JAI. AMIN.
interesting point Najam Sethi never asked is when in power in Balochistan, what all these sardars did for their nation. including Mengal and buggati, how many schools and universities did these guys establish, how many women are allowed to study in their intitutions.
That Harbiya is travelling on Pakistani Passport, if he is Baloach National why he does not surrender Pakistani passport and tell all his other family members to do the same. and get Afghan nationality and run his movement from there which they already are with the help of India and USA and probably Russia.
This man Sethi is on amission.Guys just recall your memories when ISI gave a nice chitrol and litrol when he spoke against Pakistan in India in 90s.
we pakistani give no importance to these nawabs because Nawabs never brought INQALAB if you look back into the history of revolutions.
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
Pakistan is a land of feudal lords, run by feudal lords for feudal lords. Since its birth one group of feudal lords is always seen as competing against another group of feudal lords with same caste and clan names on both sides, while loyalties keep shifting.
Apparently, all these western educated sardars, waderas, jagirdars, nawabs, makhdooms, jats, gujjars and rajpoots living luxurious life, only want is, to first take over the government so that they can provide a lot of rights, economic benefits and good life to their people who they claim to represent.
My question is very simple and please help. What the F..k have they done for those whom they head as lords and control, for the past 300 years since British gave them these lands and titles?
It is fact that Bugti asked federal govrnment in 1973 to assist provincial government. Bugti himself admitted in an interview that he killed the very first human being at the age of 10 and after murdering 100 he stopped counting. It is also a fact Balochi Awam has been deprived by their own people and supported by establishment
Mr fgKhan do you Know the history? When pakistan came into being?
for ur kind of Information Balochistan was already independent before Pakistan get Independence… In feb 1948 Balochistan was forced to become a part of pakistan on the basis of islam…
I want to ask some questions….
Is there any law in Pakistan?
Is there any constitution in Pakistan?
Tell me why the heroes of this country were sent to Jail or Assassinated (Dr Abdul Qadeer khan, Liaqat Ali khan, Zulfiqar ali bhutto etc)
Is there any safe place in Pakistan?
What happend with the chief Justice when he Called the officers of ISI(The angels of this country they never do any kind of Mistake) in court?
Is there any Law for Elite class?
No sardar But every single person of Balochistan wants freedom….
Did u ever ask a question to a Baloch that what is going in Balochistan?
What did pakistani army do with Bangladeshi womens, childeren ?
same situation in Balochistan…
Every day people killed in balochistan by Pakistani army and Agencies.
Think urself……………………….
thought provoking interview.Justice and full provincial autonomy is only solution to issue.
Guyzzz for God sake dont get impressed by this Mr Marri, he does not even have courage to face the people he is just normal traitor.
@ redproject:
my friend u might just only knows Pakistan history, if u look around the world u probably be horrified by the ground realities of various countries. As a new nation we developed so much that the rest of the world specially west got jealous and started to interfere, from the day one of independence they got the feeling if a Muslim nation can start struggling as they did for the independence, it would be very challenging for the western world to control the Asia
i assume u are also influenced by the western history. They had obviously wrote history to benefit their way.. for your kind info the blouch leaders did sign the treaty under British Raj for Pakistan but they got hijacked again by the British in 1950, but then it was already became a part of Pakistan so how could expect to be get separated??? (kindly read ur own writers history)
That time when punjab was busy to start building a strong nation, they stood for Pakistan everywhere! Punjabi have struggled all the way since Pakistan independence u guys just creates anxiety within your communitis and thats all what have you gained in these last 60 years! just hatred with in ur own community with ur pathetic feudalism.
May God guide u straight path… Amen
Balochistan is undoubtedly an undeclared Colony of Pakistan ………… since 1947 we have never been accepted as equal province ……….. Our mouth-watering resources have always been a matter of attraction for Punjab …………… let’s leave the old stories ……….. Now days the number of missing persons is rising ……….. In the city of Quetta if u want to enter the Cantonment: area is same as you are crossing a border …….. Or a Palestinian entering into Israel ………… why? I have been in all major cities like Lahore Karachi but there is no such issue while you enter the cantonment area ………. The agony/hatred of people of Balochistan against Punjab is on peak ………………. Azad Balochistan ………. Balochistan Punjabio ka Kabristaan ……… and many such slogans are seen as you move on to Baloch populated areas ………… there is a great need to take major steps otherwise ………….. Case of Dhaka is not far behind……………
غلام کا غلام!!. جب بھی کسی قوم کو ایسے دیوار سے لگایا جاتا ہے تو ایسی آزادی کی تحریکیں اٹھتی ہیں. بلوچستان میں امریکی انٹرسٹس ہیں اسکی سب سے بڑی وجہ گوادر پورٹ ہے. اور جیسے تاریخ بتاتی ہے امریکا اپنے مفادات کے لئے آزاد بلوچستان کو support کرنے سے گریز نہیں کرےگا .جوin the long run اسکو ایران پر دباؤ بڑھانے میں بھی مدد دے گا.امریکی اور برطانویوں نے اپنے مفادات کی ہی وجہ سے Europe میں کوسووو جیسی مسلم ریاست کو مان لیا.بلوچستان کا پروبلم ائر لینڈ کی طرز پر حل ہو سکتا ہے مگر اسکے لئے ایک سیاسی قیادّت چاہیے. ہمیں یہ ماننا پڑے گا کہ بلوچوں سے زیادتیاں ہویی ہیں مگر انکا حل ہرگز الگ ملک میں نہیں ہے.پر جب بھی گھٹن ہوتی ہے تو لو بھی ٹھنڈی لگتی ہے. اسی وجہ سے الگ ملک کی ڈیمانڈ بلوچوں کے لئے کشش کا سبب رہے گی اگر ہم انکو ایک مقبوضہ علاقے کی طرح ٹریٹ کریں گے
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP01RDbI2mY
See how they fight the State trying to create a state within a state. Which country in the world will allow it?
It is totally incorrect to say Baluchistan was an Independent Sovereign State. As per Independence Act of India The British Government had offered to The Princely States the option to either join India, Pakistan or remain independent. Hyderabad chose to remain independent but was conquered by India in September 11, 1948. They began the invasion the day Qaed e Azam died.
The major princely States were Hyderabad, Kashmir, Mysore, perhaps Gwalior. Baluchistan was not in that league at all. Baluchistan was an agency run by British Political agents. It was never a Princely State like Hyderabad or Kashmir or even Junagadh. From where Mr. Haer Bari Marri concocts this story is beyond imagination.
These little sardars had given up all the mineral rights against payment to the Government of British India and when it came under Pakistan. You can’t have the cake and eat it too.
Some extracts from history of Baluchistan:
Traversed by the armies of Alexander the Great, occupied by the Arabs, Afghans and Persians, conducting its foreign trade through Omani-held port of Gwadar, Kalat, together with its vassal states of Kharan, Makran and Lasbela entered the modern era by the way of contacts with Britishers of various quality. The political connection of the British with Kalat commences from the outbreak of the First Afghan War in 1839, when this area was traversed by a British army from Sind and afterwards occupied. In the British attack on Kalat in 1840, Mir Mehrak Khan, the ruler, was killed. His son, Mir Nasir Khan II was later raised to the masnad by the tribesmen and regained possession of Kalat. In 1842, consequent upon the British withdrawal from Afghanistan, the occupied districts were returned to the Khan of Kalat. The British negotiated with the Kalat State in 1854 and according to the terms of the treaty, British political agents were deputed to Kalat during the next twenty years. In 1874 Sir Robert Sandeman was sent to Baluchistan whose policy was one of conciliatory intervention, tempered with lucrative employment and light taxation. Shortly afterwards he was able to conclude with Khan Khudardad Khan of Kalat the treaty of 1876, which brought Kalat under the British sovereignty and provided stronger political control. To consolidate the territorial extension already made, Baluchistan was made a separate agency under an agent to the Governor General. At the end of the Second Afghan War by the treaty of Gandamak (May,1879), Oishin, Sibi, Harani and Thal-Chotiali were ceded by Amir Yaqub Khan of Kabul to the British Government. During the succeeding years, expeditions were led against the Lalars of Zhob and Bori and the chiefs of Sirhani and those areas were occupied. In 1887, all these areas were declared to be the British territory. In 1883, the Quetta Niabat (presently Quetta Tehsil) and the Bolan Pass were permanently taken on lease by the British from Kalat State. In 1899, Nushki and in 1903, the area irrigated by the Sind canals, known as the Nasirabad Subdivision was similarly acquired from the Kalat State on a perpetual lease. In 1940, the relation between the Kalat Khanate and the Chiefdom of Kharan became strained there were clashes between them in Warjak and Khudabadam villages. The British authorities intervened and the settlement was affected under which Kharan, Makran and Lasbela were recognized as a separate minor states under the direct control of the British Political Agent. In 1948, Kalat State formally ( but not entirely voluntarily) acceded to Pakistan and became part of the Baluchistan States Union.
From where they bring rest of the story? They were just an agency for the British to rule over. Rest is all rubbish.
It is important to go into real history and these tiny sardars who are the tyrants for the local people who never allow development are behind all these movements and fooling people. Baluchistan is of the local people of Paksitan. Nobody is taking it away. But remember it is for people not for tyrants like Bugti, Mengals or Marri’s etc.
From Historical Facts:
Extract: ———————————————————————————————
The two terms “British India” and “Princely State” are mutually exclusive. If somewhere was in British India it was not a Princely State, and if it was a Princely State it was not in British India. British India was Bombay, Sind, British Baluchistan, North West Frontier Province, Punjab, United Provinces, Central Provinces, Madras, Bihar, Orissa, Bengal and Assam. The 140 large, and 420 small states that made up the rest of India were not part of British India.
——————————————————————————————————-
You can see above British Baluchistan is under the British otherwise it would not make this list. Princely States are not in the British list but Baluchistan is. It is utter nonsense to claim independence. This only to do such that the poor people of Baluchistan do not rise up against the cruel sardars. Ask one Baloch what kind of people these sardars are. The do not allow schools, roads and development. They want to be dependent on them.
Pakistan is better for us poor Balochs not the sardars. Please help us Pakistan and the world. We plead.
mr gengiz u have ur self used the word kalat state which means kalat was a state and a country.. and one thing u must know that history is always written by the conqueror according to his own wish not by those who have been defeated or subjugated .. And the sardari system is prevalent in few parts of balochistan and that 2 on the pattern which the government has demanded and for ur knowledge there is no sardari system in makran area which includes turbat , gawadar, panjgur, pasni,,,,,,,,, then tell me why the people of these areas r deprived of common necessity of life,,, a sick person has to travel thousand miles to get treatment and if a person wants quality eduacation than there is no institution in that area which can provide him good education,, and just a reminder to u that in all balochistan the sardars who u c on media or not the real one they r product of agencies,,,for e.g zulfiqar magsi,jam yousaf, yar muhammad rind the self proclaimed sanaullah zehri
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