Hamid Mir presents a fresh episode of Capital Talk discussing consitutional ammendments issue with guests Ahsan Iqbal (PMLN), Fauzia Wahab (PPP),Zahid Khan (ANP) and Justice (r) Fakhruddin G Ibrahim.
All these participants are either naïve or simply disingenuous to their viewers by assuming or showing that PPP is going to abolish 17th Khitchry/ Dish .
ZA Bhutto taught his chelas that one comes to power with peoples’ power but sticks to power by pleasing bureaucrats and generals who traditionally love concentrated centers of powers.
Zardari is not only in bed with the establishment but came to power with the help of generals, and off course a big CHANCE.
Chances of Zardari relinquishing his Mushy power are same as winning a lottery.
17th amendment will remain until people come to the street and march towards Islamabad just like in the judiciary crisis. Our corrupt president will never do it himself until someone like Shareef and Kayani kick his ass.
Mr ashrafi you are very wrong in your comments that Mr. Zardari came into power by help of generals and establishment ; You have forgotten 18 Feb. 2008 elections results ; PPP won in elections with reasonable majority ; Then in presidential elections , Zardari won with mark difference ; Zardari did not seek help of establishment and generals ; rather he threw out the most Powerful general ,Musharraf From his den .Z A Bhutto never taught PPP loyals and workers to be loyal with Establishment ; how much wrong historically are you ; Z A Bhutto was murdered by establishment and his daughter Benazir Bhutto was never supported by establishment ; Correct your record ‘ ; And you people are blaming the president Zardari will never surrender the powers of 17th amendment ; time will tell and you will see ; PPP is in power 4th time with the help of people of Pakistan ; PPP will save Pakistan in its critical time ; its either Zardari or Gilani , they will seek support from masses ; Zardari being co chair person of PPP has all already powers ; he does not require to have further powers ; assure you Zardari will get another credit of restoring 1973 constitution ;
did anybody notice Zardari never full fill his promoses,what kind of president we have,he do not have any moral,no education,no political experience,not even member of his pary in documents,never applied for ppp membership,only experience he has in corruption?that’s why he was in jail for 11 years,ppp said it was never proven then why he signed nro?he never showed bb’s will to the people of pakistan or ppp????????
This Zardari clown will never remove the 17th amendement as it really supports his cause. BY CHANCE President have all the powers granted to him by his Lord Musharraf and he will continue towing his policy.
This stupid woman Fauzia Wahab is talking about Balance of Power. How the balance came into existence. In parlimentary democracy there is no role of President. I remember in 2001 Musharraf cronies started a campaign on national tv, to put forth their case of ammendments in the constitution by stating that this ammendment will stop the way of Martial Law. The same line is being towed by PPP as Balance of Power.
I wish we could get rid of this Government including Zardari the “THUG”, who is paving way for his son crowning. This Government comprises of bunch of idiots and looters who have only one motive to grab as much money as possible. Farook Naek has so badly screwed the Judiciary with the appointment of Illiterate and Jiyala judges and PML N the culprits have agreed the increase in number of judges thereby diluting the CJ’s majority.
Its all a mess now, and it will become a greater mess if this Zardari remain in power.
@zameerk
typical PPP jiyala
why do you forget NRO , a Kalank ka tiika on Zar_dari’s face.this man (ZAR_dari)really is a disgrace to the nation.
He is now trying to save Mushi from the court of justice.He knows if does he himself will have to face the same.Coward.
Justice always start from home, asking for justice requires to do justice!
Any body can ask PML-N Leadership, what about that MPA, who raped his senior lady worker, is he fired form his office? or still member PA and enjoying government!
Any face saving !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We always target personalities, but wee need to work on system, to remove only 17th amemndment is not an issue but to work out on other ammendments!
If any body does this alone, then the loudspeakers like no discussion in NA, no consent with other parties, there should be APC on that issue before to do! & so on!
But if they are sitting to gether to do so, still people not happy!
Did any body notice, that from Holy Land some one was refusing any deal, making Pakistani people fool, and finally came with 5-years agreement & later on 10-yeras written signed paper for mercy & getting rid from Jail!
Isnt’ was that like NRO?
CoD signed by the parites, agreed that the cases were only on political basis & poilitcal victimization!
The man came here with support from friend country was not that like NRO?
dears pls be truthful to Pakistan and speak truth!
All these participants are either naïve or simply disingenuous to their viewers by assuming or showing that PPP is going to abolish 17th Khitchry/ Dish .
ZA Bhutto taught his chelas that one comes to power with peoples’ power but sticks to power by pleasing bureaucrats and generals who traditionally love concentrated centers of powers.
Zardari is not only in bed with the establishment but came to power with the help of generals, and off course a big CHANCE.
Chances of Zardari relinquishing his Mushy power are same as winning a lottery.
17th amendment will remain until people come to the street and march towards Islamabad just like in the judiciary crisis. Our corrupt president will never do it himself until someone like Shareef and Kayani kick his ass.
This woman is so annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Ashrafi : 100% ٹھیك زرداری كی لٹری ہی ھے
@ pakistanimunda
I agree with u 100%.
Well done Zahid Khan.
This PPP leaders …………… not deserve for respect.
Shame shame PPP
PPP is making us fool.Ten year old child knows that they will never do this.
Mr ashrafi you are very wrong in your comments that Mr. Zardari came into power by help of generals and establishment ; You have forgotten 18 Feb. 2008 elections results ; PPP won in elections with reasonable majority ; Then in presidential elections , Zardari won with mark difference ; Zardari did not seek help of establishment and generals ; rather he threw out the most Powerful general ,Musharraf From his den .Z A Bhutto never taught PPP loyals and workers to be loyal with Establishment ; how much wrong historically are you ; Z A Bhutto was murdered by establishment and his daughter Benazir Bhutto was never supported by establishment ; Correct your record ‘ ; And you people are blaming the president Zardari will never surrender the powers of 17th amendment ; time will tell and you will see ; PPP is in power 4th time with the help of people of Pakistan ; PPP will save Pakistan in its critical time ; its either Zardari or Gilani , they will seek support from masses ; Zardari being co chair person of PPP has all already powers ; he does not require to have further powers ; assure you Zardari will get another credit of restoring 1973 constitution ;
did anybody notice Zardari never full fill his promoses,what kind of president we have,he do not have any moral,no education,no political experience,not even member of his pary in documents,never applied for ppp membership,only experience he has in corruption?that’s why he was in jail for 11 years,ppp said it was never proven then why he signed nro?he never showed bb’s will to the people of pakistan or ppp????????
i am so sorry i spelled promise wrong.
@ zameerk
Have u got a PLOT from ZARDaRi
This Zardari clown will never remove the 17th amendement as it really supports his cause. BY CHANCE President have all the powers granted to him by his Lord Musharraf and he will continue towing his policy.
This stupid woman Fauzia Wahab is talking about Balance of Power. How the balance came into existence. In parlimentary democracy there is no role of President. I remember in 2001 Musharraf cronies started a campaign on national tv, to put forth their case of ammendments in the constitution by stating that this ammendment will stop the way of Martial Law. The same line is being towed by PPP as Balance of Power.
I wish we could get rid of this Government including Zardari the “THUG”, who is paving way for his son crowning. This Government comprises of bunch of idiots and looters who have only one motive to grab as much money as possible. Farook Naek has so badly screwed the Judiciary with the appointment of Illiterate and Jiyala judges and PML N the culprits have agreed the increase in number of judges thereby diluting the CJ’s majority.
Its all a mess now, and it will become a greater mess if this Zardari remain in power.
@zameerk
typical PPP jiyala
why do you forget NRO , a Kalank ka tiika on Zar_dari’s face.this man (ZAR_dari)really is a disgrace to the nation.
He is now trying to save Mushi from the court of justice.He knows if does he himself will have to face the same.Coward.
Hamid Mir,
What a great Program.
I am still unable to understand, why do you invite this B.B (Bloody B*tch) to your program.?
Justice always start from home, asking for justice requires to do justice!
Any body can ask PML-N Leadership, what about that MPA, who raped his senior lady worker, is he fired form his office? or still member PA and enjoying government!
Any face saving !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We always target personalities, but wee need to work on system, to remove only 17th amemndment is not an issue but to work out on other ammendments!
If any body does this alone, then the loudspeakers like no discussion in NA, no consent with other parties, there should be APC on that issue before to do! & so on!
But if they are sitting to gether to do so, still people not happy!
Comments Pls!
Mahmud!
Did any body notice, that from Holy Land some one was refusing any deal, making Pakistani people fool, and finally came with 5-years agreement & later on 10-yeras written signed paper for mercy & getting rid from Jail!
Isnt’ was that like NRO?
CoD signed by the parites, agreed that the cases were only on political basis & poilitcal victimization!
The man came here with support from friend country was not that like NRO?
dears pls be truthful to Pakistan and speak truth!
Pls comment
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