Dear Rauf Klasra,
After reading your column, I couldnt resist myself to ask you few questions.
1- You said, this website has been hired as to scandalise the journalists who are against Taliban. My question is , If Ahmed Noorani called NaziNaji on the direction of this webiste? If Nazir Naji was drunk and abused on the direction of website owner?
2- Your argument that, journlist are being scandalized and demoralized to barr them doing efforts against Marshal law in the future..This is a very funny argument with reference to your, NN and Malick role in Musharraf regime. Every body knows that NN always apostate before the present rulers..I never read any column from you and other your fellows, like you, who wrote anything in favor of CJ, NS in musharraf gov. Instead , I rememebr your few columns against Lawyer movement.
3- ” Due to rising crimes , the families of the workers working late night were disturbed”….Could you please tell what crimes were being hiked up in islamabad even in the presence of high level security..also please name other beneficiaries of this policy?
4- Do you know, who is the owner of this website? when did he apply for the plot ? please provide the proof?
More importantly, how does Taliban come into it? The last time I checked they were hiding in Malakand caves and exploding in markets.
Question: Plot kithoon leya ja Klasra saheb
Answer: Oi Allah! Taliban aa gaye!
The lady doth protest too much With apologies to Baba Bulleh Shah:
تیری ُبکل دے وچ چور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
سادھو کس نوں کوک سُنانداں اے ،تیری بکل دے وچ چور
چوری چوری نکل گیا تے جگ وچ پے گیا شور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
جس جا تا تَس جان لیا ،تے ہور ہوئے جُھر مور
چُک گئے سارے جھگڑے جھیڑے نکل پیا کوئی ہور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
Why all the wheeling and dealing in Takht Lahore?
عرش منور بانگاں ملیاں ۔سُنیاں تخت لہور
غلام مصطفی کنڈیاں پایاں ،لُک چُھپ کھچدا ڈور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
This is very gracious of you to post his column here, this way we can hear his version of story.
I am so proud of this website now, I am one of the earliest visitors.
In pakistan inshallah we are witnessing a judicial revolution after restoration of CJ, inshallah the day is not for away when Justice will be done with equal measure for rich and poor.
May Allah grant a long life to Imran Khan. Inshallah we would live to see our country on the straight path of justice and prosperity.
ridiculous , simply ridiculous reply by klasra. it look like this has been written not be seasoned journalist but by Filmi actress and that too Pakistani Filmi Actress with only one film in her credit.
“GEE WOH SUB MERRE SHOHRAT SAY JALTEE HAIN”
Taliba, who in Pakistan is not writing against Taliban.
insecurity in Pakitan capital Islamabad, if his wife is not secure then whose wife is secure in rest of pakistan.
Question still remains same, why 180 journalists were obliged and why not the rest of the government employees or other profession like barbers, cobblers, thanaydars, patwarees, tailors etc why only journalists because they have the power to blackmail politicians.
ridiculous , simply ridiculous reply by klasra. it look like this has been written not be seasoned journalist but by Filmi actress and that too Pakistani Filmi Actress with only one film in her credit.
“GEE WOH SUB MERRE SHOHRAT SAY JALTEE HAIN”
Taliba, who in Pakistan is not writing against Taliban.
insecurity in Pakitan capital Islamabad, if his wife is not secure then whose wife is secure in rest of pakistan.
Question still remains same, why 180 journalists were obliged and why not the rest of the government employees or other profession like barbers, cobblers, thanaydars, patwarees, tailors etc why only journalists because they have the power to blackmail politicians.
whenever there is something against people like klasra, their response has always been something “meray khilaf sazish ho rahi hai ya log muj sai jealous hain”
Klasray tension na lay dost, khul k bool k iss hammam mein sab nangay hain including you! sirf us nain nai khaya jis ko mila nai. Pakistan tum jaison k baap ki jagheer hai, sab khaoo aur mil k khaoo!
Klasra and his dastaan-e-hasrat regarding office intrigue, jealousies of colleagues and the difficult path of journalism when doing battle with the Taliban:
Guys, why some of you are not satisified with his claification. If he lives in a 2 room house then we should all applaud him. Can anyone veryify his claim? If he really does live in a small flat then we should all accept his clarification… but I doubt his claim, so admin can you please verify that?
aah mr. klasra u r right, 100 percent right, people are jealous of u, people running the pkpolitics.com are really jealous of u because of:
a. the vast knowledge and grasp u have on whatever subject u choose,
b. ur girlfriends dying and vying for u at every nook and corner of the world from antarctica to north pole, from usa to england to far far away, just like we read in mustansar hussain tarrar’s books, there are only two lucky people in the whole wide world: u and tarrar sahib,
c. u being the staunch opposer of talibans and pkpolitics.com is actually being run by talibans from tora bora,
d. ur personality, u being very handsom man, very hot, always in demand with girls, ur hairstyle is being copied by the famous actors of the world, ur eyes are next to ashwayria roy, your……. so on and so forth,
u were screened out from ISSB, just because they never need a shinning star in their ranks, they need dumb people like musharraf and other generals, thats why u were not considered for selection, if and only if u would have been selected the world would have seen a dashing general ruling the world, general zia would have been jealous of ur personality.
mujhay aap sab logon ki maasoomiat aur saadgi per taras aa raha he . main ne inn barray barray” columnkaaron” ke saath sal ha saal kaam kia he . Allah ki qasem ye sab log ( sirf ansar abbasi ke siwa ) uss se kaheen ziada badbudaar aur ghaleez hain , jitna kuch logon ko maalum he . bechaaray nazir naaji ko to chorain , kiun ke wo to apnay kartooton ko chupaanay ki takleef bhee gawaara nahi karta ,yaanee paarsaai ka daawa nahi karta , sirf haroon rasheed kee misaal le lain . apnay her column main baat baat per quran , hadees aur khulafaae raashideen ki misaalain denay waalay inn hazrat se koi sirf itna pooch le ke inhain kis jurm ki padaash main daily pakistan lahore se transfer ker ke islamabad bhijwa dia gia tha, unn dinon ye hazrat khulay aam apnay qareebi doston se ye kaha kartay thay “ yaar ! mujhay naalay wali nahi elastic waali aurtain pasand hain “ sharaab ke baghair ye hazrat 2 lines balkay 2 hadeesain ya aaeytain bhee nahi likh saktay, nusrat javed ke drawing room wala waaqea to saary sahafti baraadri ko hee maalum he , koi iss “ustaad e mukaram “ se ye bhee pooch le ke ye lahore ke harfa inn hotel main kia kia gul khilaatay rahay hain . mian aamir mehmud ki intakhabi mohim main uss se nai car lenay ka qissa bhee sab ko maloom he .astaghferullah , kaisay kaisay ghaleez shahkaar parray hain iss mekhaanay main.
@qudrutullahch,
From now on either write in English or use the following link to transliterate from Roman Urdu (as to wrote above) to Urdu script. Pkpolitics reserves the right to delete, mend any comment to keep the sanity, aesthetics and cognitivity of the contents.
If any one remember I put some true story about Rauf Clasra when he wrote about Shoaib (One of the corrupt in London) then on this forum some people tried to let me know that I am going too perosnal to Clasra. Now it is very clear that Rauf Clasra is one of the corrupt journalist. Well done PKPOLITICS…
main nay aaj Kalasra ko mail bi likhi hai kay mujay batao app ki app ki wife main kia khas bat thi jo us ko garde 17 main hotay hoye grade 22 kay officer ka house allot ho gaya?aur chairman senate nay priorty basis per senate walon kay liye house allot kernay ki bat ki to senate kay aur kitnay officers ko apki wife kay sath house allot hoye? dosra yeah kay wo wazhat keray kay usko categeory-I ka plot kaisay mil gaya jub ko entitle hi nahee tha us kay liye to:
Mr. Klasra .. If you had any dignity and respect left, you have lost it after your column. You should have better kept quiet.
1. Everyone knows that all plots are given through “legal” process. But you can never defend it on moral basis. And if you have takne even 1, dont even become champion of morality. Nazir Naji was better than you that at least instead of defending himself afterwards he kept his mouth shut. We curse allocation of plots to judges, generals; dont forget that the process for this is also made to look “legitmate” which it never is.
2. Blaming PkPolitics: There was a poll few months ago about favourite columnists and you came out 5th probably. I remember you mentioned it even in your column with pride. And now you are blaming this website to be projected by your fellow columnists because of some conspiracy.
3. The ending of your column is possibly the funniest part. So by mentioning Tolstoy, are you announcing that you are also donating all your land after your death?
Mr. Klasra, people are not that stupid anymore as you may think.
If were you I should be ashamed of myself but then you are not me, you are Rauf Klasra.
Our Politicians are the biggest crooks but the journalists are not far behind either. Most of them are blackmailers. Remember Drunken Naji’s vulgar abuse of a young journalist? No body in the media bother to say anything about that.
even haroon rasheed has jumped in the band wagon of klasra,this is what i dont understand…why dont these ppl just say wrong is wrong on principal…luk at haroon rasheed’s justification about klasra that 2 guys from pml-n is providing material to this webstie against the independant journalists…
i wasn’t expecting this from haroon rasheed,instead of advising klasra of staying quiet he himself shouldn’t gave that sort of justification…
just coz he is writing in jang doesn’t suppose to mean that he has to give cover for klasra,if thats the case than why not for nazir naji……why only the defence for mohammad malick and klasra only….yeah we know this why coz nazir naji has named haroon rasheed in couple of his columns so there is personality clash…..
hence proved=pkpolitics has got no hidden agenda but to expose the black sheeps in media…but these journalists can’t see their dirty laundary coming into the main stream…
i expect now from admins of pkpolitics to reply back haroon rasheed….
i can buy your argument politicians dont like their weaknesses explioted.
HOW CAN you defend wrong doings of klasra.
this website is quite useful and you have called MAMOLI ISHTAHARI WEBSITE, FOR YOUR INFORMATION THIS IS NOT mamoli website.
Had it been mamoli klasra would not have faced heat.
This is very good website and people can express there comments
by the way you and klasra have new found love for FAUJ. you are all praise for kiyani andfauj. klasri other day was saying syasatdano ki harkotton ki wajah se fauj ko ana parta ha.
What should one say about this.
KLASRAS REPLY HAS SAID IT ALL.
why are you defending him.
Has pkpolitics not given references against all allegations.
What reference and proof do you have against Pk politics.
By saying this website you have shown your arrogance and ignorance both.
What an idiot!!! Mr. Kalasra you are living in a fools paradise. I heard you many times on TV and read your columns. I had lots of respect for you. You spoke against Taleban and I agreed with you. But, accusing PKpolitics of a group of people who are working against the journalist group who were against Taleban is a cheap shot. I could never imagine that you could make such acsusations. Did you read what PKpolitics wrote??? You have the right to defend yourself. PKpolics is open for you to write back and defend yourself against the evidences that were published on this forum and if you were truthful we would have come to your rescue. But, why would you do that? Now, I believe all the accusations that were made here were true and you are guilty as stand. Shame on you. Please dont use your well respected KISAN parent’s name to defend yourself. If they know what you are up to they would be also disappointed in you.
I am not supporting Mr. Klasra but we also jump the band wagon to criticize him without taking his view point. Mr. Haroon ur- Rasheed should clarify things if he is defending Mr. Klasra. The argument that Taliban supporters are criticizing Mr. Klasra is also ridiculous. I think he responded to the allegations which is a good sign. Now the people who raised allegation can send a rebuttle which can be compared. There is no sacred cow and every one should bring to justice.
KISSI CHEEZE KO CHHOTA SAMJHANAY KAY LIYEE ZAROORI HAI KAY USSAY DOOOR SAY DEKHA JAYEE YA GHARROOR SAY DEKHA JAYEE (Wasif Ali Wasif)—and that what the problem with arrogant Haroon Sahib–he has come to rescue RK but himself landed into trouble–I always thought very high about him, but he should have spoken on merits–baalisht bhar key website hai–to why he is giving importance–why RK felt the heat to respond, because both of them know very well that this is not baalisht bhar key but it is just a mirror showing everyone’s face and nothing else–if you want to blame the mirror, then you are blaming yourself–as SARR-I-AAINA BHI AAP HAIN AUR PASS-I-AAINA BHI AAP KHUD–so wake up all of you now–the time is changing very rapidly and no one has a second chance–corruptions, blackmailing, undue favours, bhatta khauri—-that time is gone–a new history is in the making–all looters will be brought to justice–no one will be spared–Mr Klasra–Mr Haroon, Mr Naji and many more to come–yaum-i-hisaab say pehlay bhi hisaab ho sakta hai–thats the message for all–
To be honest I have been one of your strongest followers, I admire your views and really adore you the way you have given hope to the people and especially youth like me in darskest hours of depair, the way you exposed our politicians and highlighted our real problems is an important contribution to this rapidly changing era. In fact its not only you I also valued Kalsra’s efforts despite his increasingly depressing (hassan nisar-ish) version of the surroundings and considered him an important investigating journalist.
However, I must honestly admit that your column in defence of klasra has greatly disappointed me and has just reminded me and others that people like you are also after all just humans and humans make mistakes and sometimes horrible mistakes. I am just amazed what were you thinking when you wrote this article. To start with how can you just defend your friend by saying that because he lives in a rented property he is aquitted of all charges. what sort of evidence is that? where is the proof . tell us some names, show us the proof in black and white. this is the year 2009 mr rasheed! we are the internet genration. Is tarah ke arguments to ham rauz nashtay main khatay hain. Just calling an allegation a conspiracy—yeh to naji jaisay log kartay hain….How different are you now from naji now Mr Rasheed?
Last of all, only those who are on weak grounds put allegations when replying to allegations. How can you call this website a balsiht bhar website. You should be the one thankful to this website in the first place as nobody knew you before it existed. I started reading your coulmns after seeing you on this website. This balisht bhar website has given the suffocated youth a ventilating space. The turnover of this balisht bhar website is in hundreds of thousands, and most of these are politically mature youth of the country. who knows a quaid might be born growing on this website. This balisht bhar website sir is the platform for the ‘baidaar’ nation for which you have always stood for.How can you call it balisht bhar website?
and please bring some proof when blaming PML-N or any others. Not every allegation is a conspiracy. If klasra is innocent then, nazir naji is also innocent and not only him all the politicians , beurocrates, bankers etc are also innocent. why dont yu start writing for them too as nothing has been proved against them as well.
Well I am not sure if it is right for the management of pkpolitics to instruct the members how to express themselves. It is true that English and Urdu are the most common medium which are understood by most of the visitors of this site. But Roman Urdu is also very common medium for expression on the web/mobile. I am also not sure if typing/writing in Roman Urdu has any affects on the “sanity, aesthetics and cognitivity” of the content. Until recently there were several newspaper’s website who published their web content in Roman Urdu, I was also part of a project where the use of urdu language in Roman Urdu format was studied over the web and majority of the bulletin boards and the forums had users who preferred typing in Roman Urdu.
Last but not the least , I wanted to hear more from Qaduratullah , as he seemed to have very good internal stories about some big names. I do know some of such stories may be correct. I (and hopefully most of other visitors) would like to hear from Qaduratullah.
pls note one very important nd significant thing , i posted my comments abt haroon rashid yesterday , obviously at that time haroon rasheed didnt write this columnin favour of kalasra , but blve me i was 100% sure that only one man in the whole journalist community could come forward to save the skin of kalasra nd that is haroon rasheed, nd same thing happened today. ye sub ” mutaqee ” sahafi aik dusray ke bhai hain .
sultan ali khan ! oh i m really sorry , mujhay yaad hee nahi raha ke ” character assasination to sirf unn logon ka haq he jo tv per baith ker puray pakistan ki maan bhen aik ker detay hain , sorry again yaar
yar A to Z ye saray coloumnist kisi na kisi k chamchay hotay hain,awain ham log in k coulm parh k uss pah tabsiray kar kar k apna time barbad kar rahy hain….tabsira karna hay tou CJ lahore hi court pah karo k kaisy aik sitting CJ is saying k musharraf ab bura time dekhay ga….m not defending musharraf here….but kia aik sitting CJ ko aisa kehna chahiye tha before hearing???? kia faida hay ADLIYA ki AZADI k naaray ka agar ADLIYA ab apnay mohsino/sponsores ko khush karny ka sochay bethi hay……alas !!! hamara kuch nahi ho skata……..
@Dear Commenter,
From now on either write in English or use the following link to transliterate from Roman Urdu (as to wrote above) to Urdu script. Pkpolitics reserves the right to delete, mend any comment to keep the sanity, aesthetics and cognitivity of the contents.
Rauf knelt down to prove that he is a fallen angel. He do not want to take curse of 4 unmarried girls. LOL
They article itself is so funny that i only have laughters for this poor chap who got caught red handed and he doesn’t know what to do. The superb end with 6 ft piece of land is a master piece.
If there is any shame and it is in water form, Rauf should drown himself in that shame. What a liar he is, writing scores of words to prove his innocence and yet lacks the truth. A poor farmer son? most of the farmer sons enjoy minting money from foul play because of their deprived past. Living in metropolitan city of Islamabad, having luxury of number of flats and plots increased his lust even more.
In my humble opinion, Mr. Rauf Clasra has very clearlymade the situation clear. Now it is up to the readers as how they take it. Most of the comments in response to Clasra’s columns seem somehow highly biased and prejudiced. After his thorough explanation, how come educated and rationale people could blame Clasra for being dishonest or faudulent? I think we should not try to defame true and genuine people like Rauf Clasra or Haroon ur Rashid. It does not mean that if we don’t agree with their viewpoints on certain issues then we should start a campaign of defamation against them. May God guide us to be on the right path and at least encourage and admire those who are honest to their professions.
You all missed the point… It is in his name: CLASS R A – CLASS Residence A. Now what can a man do when it is in his name? Just like my name is Silkccut, and likewise I am a smoker.
Dosrun k kapray autarna Mushkil kaam ha aur khud thori tanqeed hui Klasra sahab py tu enhun ny tu Roona he start kar diya ha
Rauf Klasra using below counter-arguments:
#1- Jealousy of co-workers
#2- Propaganda because of his opposition of Taliban
#3- Big conspiracy against institution of journalism
#4- I paid for the property
#5- Bureaucrats praised my character
#6- Court decision and I wasn’t alone in that verdict
#7- Some russian anecdote
He felt enough pressure to respond to this publication, that means PKPolitics works!
and i know the place where he lives i dnt think its 2 rooms flat
Dear Rauf Klasra,
After reading your column, I couldnt resist myself to ask you few questions.
1- You said, this website has been hired as to scandalise the journalists who are against Taliban. My question is , If Ahmed Noorani called NaziNaji on the direction of this webiste? If Nazir Naji was drunk and abused on the direction of website owner?
2- Your argument that, journlist are being scandalized and demoralized to barr them doing efforts against Marshal law in the future..This is a very funny argument with reference to your, NN and Malick role in Musharraf regime. Every body knows that NN always apostate before the present rulers..I never read any column from you and other your fellows, like you, who wrote anything in favor of CJ, NS in musharraf gov. Instead , I rememebr your few columns against Lawyer movement.
3- ” Due to rising crimes , the families of the workers working late night were disturbed”….Could you please tell what crimes were being hiked up in islamabad even in the presence of high level security..also please name other beneficiaries of this policy?
4- Do you know, who is the owner of this website? when did he apply for the plot ? please provide the proof?
Well Klasara has his right to defend himself and also got every right to use his forum, which are his columns.
More importantly, how does Taliban come into it? The last time I checked they were hiding in Malakand caves and exploding in markets.
Question: Plot kithoon leya ja Klasra saheb
Answer: Oi Allah! Taliban aa gaye!
The lady doth protest too much
With apologies to Baba Bulleh Shah:
تیری ُبکل دے وچ چور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
سادھو کس نوں کوک سُنانداں اے ،تیری بکل دے وچ چور
چوری چوری نکل گیا تے جگ وچ پے گیا شور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
جس جا تا تَس جان لیا ،تے ہور ہوئے جُھر مور
چُک گئے سارے جھگڑے جھیڑے نکل پیا کوئی ہور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
Why all the wheeling and dealing in Takht Lahore?
عرش منور بانگاں ملیاں ۔سُنیاں تخت لہور
غلام مصطفی کنڈیاں پایاں ،لُک چُھپ کھچدا ڈور
تیری بُکل دے وچ چور ،نی ، تیری بُکل دے وچ چور
Ha! Haye! Klasra Saib! AssaN qaidi Takht Lahore day!
@
Brother Admin
This is very gracious of you to post his column here, this way we can hear his version of story.
I am so proud of this website now, I am one of the earliest visitors.
In pakistan inshallah we are witnessing a judicial revolution after restoration of CJ, inshallah the day is not for away when Justice will be done with equal measure for rich and poor.
May Allah grant a long life to Imran Khan. Inshallah we would live to see our country on the straight path of justice and prosperity.
ridiculous , simply ridiculous reply by klasra. it look like this has been written not be seasoned journalist but by Filmi actress and that too Pakistani Filmi Actress with only one film in her credit.
“GEE WOH SUB MERRE SHOHRAT SAY JALTEE HAIN”
Taliba, who in Pakistan is not writing against Taliban.
insecurity in Pakitan capital Islamabad, if his wife is not secure then whose wife is secure in rest of pakistan.
Question still remains same, why 180 journalists were obliged and why not the rest of the government employees or other profession like barbers, cobblers, thanaydars, patwarees, tailors etc why only journalists because they have the power to blackmail politicians.
Klasra leave everything and listen to this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJc7Jnm9AqM&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
ridiculous , simply ridiculous reply by klasra. it look like this has been written not be seasoned journalist but by Filmi actress and that too Pakistani Filmi Actress with only one film in her credit.
“GEE WOH SUB MERRE SHOHRAT SAY JALTEE HAIN”
Taliba, who in Pakistan is not writing against Taliban.
insecurity in Pakitan capital Islamabad, if his wife is not secure then whose wife is secure in rest of pakistan.
Question still remains same, why 180 journalists were obliged and why not the rest of the government employees or other profession like barbers, cobblers, thanaydars, patwarees, tailors etc why only journalists because they have the power to blackmail politicians.
whenever there is something against people like klasra, their response has always been something “meray khilaf sazish ho rahi hai ya log muj sai jealous hain”
Klasray tension na lay dost, khul k bool k iss hammam mein sab nangay hain including you! sirf us nain nai khaya jis ko mila nai. Pakistan tum jaison k baap ki jagheer hai, sab khaoo aur mil k khaoo!
Klasra and his dastaan-e-hasrat regarding office intrigue, jealousies of colleagues and the difficult path of journalism when doing battle with the Taliban:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIdmhWa-qug
مجھے آزمانے والے مجھے آزما کے روئے
میری داستان حسرت سنا سنا کہ روئے
تیری بے وفائیوں پر، تیری کج ادائیوں پر
کبھی سر چھپا کے روئے، کبھی منہ چھپا کے روئے
جو سنائی انجمن میں شب غم کی آپ بیتی
وہ کبھی رو کے مسکرائے، کبھی مسکرا کے روئے
میں ھوں بے وطن مسافر، میرا نام بے کسی ھے
میرا کوئی بھی نہیں ھے جو گلے لگا کے روئے
میرے پاس سے گزر کر میرا حال تک نہ پوچھا
میں یہ کیسے مان جاوں کہ وہ دور جا کہ روئے
Klasra Saib! We feel your pain!
Kujh sheher dey lok wi zaalam san, etc etc…
Guys, why some of you are not satisified with his claification. If he lives in a 2 room house then we should all applaud him. Can anyone veryify his claim? If he really does live in a small flat then we should all accept his clarification… but I doubt his claim, so admin can you please verify that?
@mbokhari
One of my english teachers name was m. bukhari are you the same person
@justice
I may remember you. What is your name and what year did you take my class and where.
aah mr. klasra u r right, 100 percent right, people are jealous of u, people running the pkpolitics.com are really jealous of u because of:
a. the vast knowledge and grasp u have on whatever subject u choose,
b. ur girlfriends dying and vying for u at every nook and corner of the world from antarctica to north pole, from usa to england to far far away, just like we read in mustansar hussain tarrar’s books, there are only two lucky people in the whole wide world: u and tarrar sahib,
c. u being the staunch opposer of talibans and pkpolitics.com is actually being run by talibans from tora bora,
d. ur personality, u being very handsom man, very hot, always in demand with girls, ur hairstyle is being copied by the famous actors of the world, ur eyes are next to ashwayria roy, your……. so on and so forth,
u were screened out from ISSB, just because they never need a shinning star in their ranks, they need dumb people like musharraf and other generals, thats why u were not considered for selection, if and only if u would have been selected the world would have seen a dashing general ruling the world, general zia would have been jealous of ur personality.
No =m= is stand for MAJHOOL.
i was in Govt college college lahore,
@justice
I taught there in the 80s. What is your name, son?
good article
mujhay aap sab logon ki maasoomiat aur saadgi per taras aa raha he . main ne inn barray barray” columnkaaron” ke saath sal ha saal kaam kia he . Allah ki qasem ye sab log ( sirf ansar abbasi ke siwa ) uss se kaheen ziada badbudaar aur ghaleez hain , jitna kuch logon ko maalum he . bechaaray nazir naaji ko to chorain , kiun ke wo to apnay kartooton ko chupaanay ki takleef bhee gawaara nahi karta ,yaanee paarsaai ka daawa nahi karta , sirf haroon rasheed kee misaal le lain . apnay her column main baat baat per quran , hadees aur khulafaae raashideen ki misaalain denay waalay inn hazrat se koi sirf itna pooch le ke inhain kis jurm ki padaash main daily pakistan lahore se transfer ker ke islamabad bhijwa dia gia tha, unn dinon ye hazrat khulay aam apnay qareebi doston se ye kaha kartay thay “ yaar ! mujhay naalay wali nahi elastic waali aurtain pasand hain “ sharaab ke baghair ye hazrat 2 lines balkay 2 hadeesain ya aaeytain bhee nahi likh saktay, nusrat javed ke drawing room wala waaqea to saary sahafti baraadri ko hee maalum he , koi iss “ustaad e mukaram “ se ye bhee pooch le ke ye lahore ke harfa inn hotel main kia kia gul khilaatay rahay hain . mian aamir mehmud ki intakhabi mohim main uss se nai car lenay ka qissa bhee sab ko maloom he .astaghferullah , kaisay kaisay ghaleez shahkaar parray hain iss mekhaanay main.
If any one remember I put some true story about Rauf Clasra when he wrote about Shoaib (One of the corrupt in London) then on this forum some people tried to let me know that I am going too perosnal to Clasra. Now it is very clear that Rauf Clasra is one of the corrupt journalist. Well done PKPOLITICS…
مجروح لکھ رہے ہیں وہ اہل وفا کا نام
ہم بھی کھڑے ہیں گنہگار کی طرح
main nay aaj Kalasra ko mail bi likhi hai kay mujay batao app ki app ki wife main kia khas bat thi jo us ko garde 17 main hotay hoye grade 22 kay officer ka house allot ho gaya?aur chairman senate nay priorty basis per senate walon kay liye house allot kernay ki bat ki to senate kay aur kitnay officers ko apki wife kay sath house allot hoye? dosra yeah kay wo wazhat keray kay usko categeory-I ka plot kaisay mil gaya jub ko entitle hi nahee tha us kay liye to:
Mr. Klasra .. If you had any dignity and respect left, you have lost it after your column. You should have better kept quiet.
1. Everyone knows that all plots are given through “legal” process. But you can never defend it on moral basis. And if you have takne even 1, dont even become champion of morality. Nazir Naji was better than you that at least instead of defending himself afterwards he kept his mouth shut. We curse allocation of plots to judges, generals; dont forget that the process for this is also made to look “legitmate” which it never is.
2. Blaming PkPolitics: There was a poll few months ago about favourite columnists and you came out 5th probably. I remember you mentioned it even in your column with pride. And now you are blaming this website to be projected by your fellow columnists because of some conspiracy.
3. The ending of your column is possibly the funniest part. So by mentioning Tolstoy, are you announcing that you are also donating all your land after your death?
Mr. Klasra, people are not that stupid anymore as you may think.
If were you I should be ashamed of myself but then you are not me, you are Rauf Klasra.
Our Politicians are the biggest crooks but the journalists are not far behind either. Most of them are blackmailers. Remember Drunken Naji’s vulgar abuse of a young journalist? No body in the media bother to say anything about that.
Haroon ur Rasheed also blames pkpolitics
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2009-daily/27-07-2009/col4.htm
even haroon rasheed has jumped in the band wagon of klasra,this is what i dont understand…why dont these ppl just say wrong is wrong on principal…luk at haroon rasheed’s justification about klasra that 2 guys from pml-n is providing material to this webstie against the independant journalists…
i wasn’t expecting this from haroon rasheed,instead of advising klasra of staying quiet he himself shouldn’t gave that sort of justification…
just coz he is writing in jang doesn’t suppose to mean that he has to give cover for klasra,if thats the case than why not for nazir naji……why only the defence for mohammad malick and klasra only….yeah we know this why coz nazir naji has named haroon rasheed in couple of his columns so there is personality clash…..
hence proved=pkpolitics has got no hidden agenda but to expose the black sheeps in media…but these journalists can’t see their dirty laundary coming into the main stream…
i expect now from admins of pkpolitics to reply back haroon rasheed….
hazoore wala aap bhi( HR).
i can buy your argument politicians dont like their weaknesses explioted.
HOW CAN you defend wrong doings of klasra.
this website is quite useful and you have called MAMOLI ISHTAHARI WEBSITE, FOR YOUR INFORMATION THIS IS NOT mamoli website.
Had it been mamoli klasra would not have faced heat.
This is very good website and people can express there comments
by the way you and klasra have new found love for FAUJ. you are all praise for kiyani andfauj. klasri other day was saying syasatdano ki harkotton ki wajah se fauj ko ana parta ha.
What should one say about this.
KLASRAS REPLY HAS SAID IT ALL.
why are you defending him.
Has pkpolitics not given references against all allegations.
What reference and proof do you have against Pk politics.
By saying this website you have shown your arrogance and ignorance both.
can we ask your
objective.
hahahh sazish, jealousy same old words.. nothing to proof yourself.. Klasara shame on you
What an idiot!!! Mr. Kalasra you are living in a fools paradise. I heard you many times on TV and read your columns. I had lots of respect for you. You spoke against Taleban and I agreed with you. But, accusing PKpolitics of a group of people who are working against the journalist group who were against Taleban is a cheap shot. I could never imagine that you could make such acsusations. Did you read what PKpolitics wrote??? You have the right to defend yourself. PKpolics is open for you to write back and defend yourself against the evidences that were published on this forum and if you were truthful we would have come to your rescue. But, why would you do that? Now, I believe all the accusations that were made here were true and you are guilty as stand. Shame on you. Please dont use your well respected KISAN parent’s name to defend yourself. If they know what you are up to they would be also disappointed in you.
I am not supporting Mr. Klasra but we also jump the band wagon to criticize him without taking his view point. Mr. Haroon ur- Rasheed should clarify things if he is defending Mr. Klasra. The argument that Taliban supporters are criticizing Mr. Klasra is also ridiculous. I think he responded to the allegations which is a good sign. Now the people who raised allegation can send a rebuttle which can be compared. There is no sacred cow and every one should bring to justice.
KISSI CHEEZE KO CHHOTA SAMJHANAY KAY LIYEE ZAROORI HAI KAY USSAY DOOOR SAY DEKHA JAYEE YA GHARROOR SAY DEKHA JAYEE (Wasif Ali Wasif)—and that what the problem with arrogant Haroon Sahib–he has come to rescue RK but himself landed into trouble–I always thought very high about him, but he should have spoken on merits–baalisht bhar key website hai–to why he is giving importance–why RK felt the heat to respond, because both of them know very well that this is not baalisht bhar key but it is just a mirror showing everyone’s face and nothing else–if you want to blame the mirror, then you are blaming yourself–as SARR-I-AAINA BHI AAP HAIN AUR PASS-I-AAINA BHI AAP KHUD–so wake up all of you now–the time is changing very rapidly and no one has a second chance–corruptions, blackmailing, undue favours, bhatta khauri—-that time is gone–a new history is in the making–all looters will be brought to justice–no one will be spared–Mr Klasra–Mr Haroon, Mr Naji and many more to come–yaum-i-hisaab say pehlay bhi hisaab ho sakta hai–thats the message for all–
Pakistan Zindabad
Facts are NICE…. If they are only facts
Qudratullach………that is pathetic, there is no need for anyone’s character assassination…
This is our tragedy:
ہم لوگ فرعون کی زندگی اور موسیٰ کی عاقبت چاہتے ہیں —واصف علی واصف
Mr Haroon Rasheed !
To be honest I have been one of your strongest followers, I admire your views and really adore you the way you have given hope to the people and especially youth like me in darskest hours of depair, the way you exposed our politicians and highlighted our real problems is an important contribution to this rapidly changing era. In fact its not only you I also valued Kalsra’s efforts despite his increasingly depressing (hassan nisar-ish) version of the surroundings and considered him an important investigating journalist.
However, I must honestly admit that your column in defence of klasra has greatly disappointed me and has just reminded me and others that people like you are also after all just humans and humans make mistakes and sometimes horrible mistakes. I am just amazed what were you thinking when you wrote this article. To start with how can you just defend your friend by saying that because he lives in a rented property he is aquitted of all charges. what sort of evidence is that? where is the proof . tell us some names, show us the proof in black and white. this is the year 2009 mr rasheed! we are the internet genration. Is tarah ke arguments to ham rauz nashtay main khatay hain. Just calling an allegation a conspiracy—yeh to naji jaisay log kartay hain….How different are you now from naji now Mr Rasheed?
Last of all, only those who are on weak grounds put allegations when replying to allegations. How can you call this website a balsiht bhar website. You should be the one thankful to this website in the first place as nobody knew you before it existed. I started reading your coulmns after seeing you on this website. This balisht bhar website has given the suffocated youth a ventilating space. The turnover of this balisht bhar website is in hundreds of thousands, and most of these are politically mature youth of the country. who knows a quaid might be born growing on this website. This balisht bhar website sir is the platform for the ‘baidaar’ nation for which you have always stood for.How can you call it balisht bhar website?
and please bring some proof when blaming PML-N or any others. Not every allegation is a conspiracy. If klasra is innocent then, nazir naji is also innocent and not only him all the politicians , beurocrates, bankers etc are also innocent. why dont yu start writing for them too as nothing has been proved against them as well.
Well I am not sure if it is right for the management of pkpolitics to instruct the members how to express themselves. It is true that English and Urdu are the most common medium which are understood by most of the visitors of this site. But Roman Urdu is also very common medium for expression on the web/mobile. I am also not sure if typing/writing in Roman Urdu has any affects on the “sanity, aesthetics and cognitivity” of the content. Until recently there were several newspaper’s website who published their web content in Roman Urdu, I was also part of a project where the use of urdu language in Roman Urdu format was studied over the web and majority of the bulletin boards and the forums had users who preferred typing in Roman Urdu.
Last but not the least , I wanted to hear more from Qaduratullah , as he seemed to have very good internal stories about some big names. I do know some of such stories may be correct. I (and hopefully most of other visitors) would like to hear from Qaduratullah.
pls note one very important nd significant thing , i posted my comments abt haroon rashid yesterday , obviously at that time haroon rasheed didnt write this columnin favour of kalasra , but blve me i was 100% sure that only one man in the whole journalist community could come forward to save the skin of kalasra nd that is haroon rasheed, nd same thing happened today. ye sub ” mutaqee ” sahafi aik dusray ke bhai hain .
sultan ali khan ! oh i m really sorry , mujhay yaad hee nahi raha ke ” character assasination to sirf unn logon ka haq he jo tv per baith ker puray pakistan ki maan bhen aik ker detay hain , sorry again yaar
yar A to Z ye saray coloumnist kisi na kisi k chamchay hotay hain,awain ham log in k coulm parh k uss pah tabsiray kar kar k apna time barbad kar rahy hain….tabsira karna hay tou CJ lahore hi court pah karo k kaisy aik sitting CJ is saying k musharraf ab bura time dekhay ga….m not defending musharraf here….but kia aik sitting CJ ko aisa kehna chahiye tha before hearing???? kia faida hay ADLIYA ki AZADI k naaray ka agar ADLIYA ab apnay mohsino/sponsores ko khush karny ka sochay bethi hay……alas !!! hamara kuch nahi ho skata……..
akhir kyun? LOL
Rauf knelt down to prove that he is a fallen angel. He do not want to take curse of 4 unmarried girls. LOL
They article itself is so funny that i only have laughters for this poor chap who got caught red handed and he doesn’t know what to do. The superb end with 6 ft piece of land is a master piece.
If there is any shame and it is in water form, Rauf should drown himself in that shame. What a liar he is, writing scores of words to prove his innocence and yet lacks the truth. A poor farmer son? most of the farmer sons enjoy minting money from foul play because of their deprived past. Living in metropolitan city of Islamabad, having luxury of number of flats and plots increased his lust even more.
In my humble opinion, Mr. Rauf Clasra has very clearlymade the situation clear. Now it is up to the readers as how they take it. Most of the comments in response to Clasra’s columns seem somehow highly biased and prejudiced. After his thorough explanation, how come educated and rationale people could blame Clasra for being dishonest or faudulent? I think we should not try to defame true and genuine people like Rauf Clasra or Haroon ur Rashid. It does not mean that if we don’t agree with their viewpoints on certain issues then we should start a campaign of defamation against them. May God guide us to be on the right path and at least encourage and admire those who are honest to their professions.
You all missed the point… It is in his name: CLASS R A – CLASS Residence A. Now what can a man do when it is in his name? Just like my name is Silkccut, and likewise I am a smoker.
Please read today jang article (it’s related to Klarsra’s response):
http://www.jang-group.com/jang/aug2009-daily/04-08-2009/col8.htm
LOL @ silkccut .
Good one, chap.
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