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  • SAZA said:

    Nawaz Shareef will eat SIRI PAE and forget Mush.

  • runaway said:

    First they will deny that there is any pressure. Ishaq Dar already did that.

    According to him, NS and King Abdullah did not discuss Musharraf instead exchanged recipes for Iftari items.

  • Bawa said:

    NS has fully surrendered and issue will be closed for ever.Laanat on Shah Abdullah of Saudi Arabia for interferring in Pakistan internal affairs.

  • Bawa said:

    Read the interview of Musharraf

    شاہ عبداللہ نے یقین دہانی کرا دی‘ نوازشریف آرٹیکل 6 پر مجھے نہیں چھیڑیں گے : مشرف

    لندن/ اسلام آباد (اے این این+ این این آئی+ ریڈیو نیوز) سابق صدر پرویز مشرف نے کہا ہے کہ جلد نیا سیاسی گروپ تشکیل دوں گا‘ مجھے کوئی ہاتھ نہیں لگا سکتا‘ میں نے اکبربگٹی کو خود جاکے نہیں مارا‘ اس کا م میں حکومت ‘ فوج اور ایجنسیاں شامل تھیں۔ شاہ عبداللہ مجھے بھائی کہتے ہیں۔ انہوں نے یقین دہانی کرائی ہے کہ نوازشریف آرٹیکل 6پر مجھے نہیں چھیڑینگے۔ چیف جسٹس افتخار چوہدری مجھے نااہل قراردینے کا فیصلہ کرچکے تھے ‘ لال مسجد میں آپریشن کے وقت آئی ایس آئی کے دو افراد اندر موجود تھے ‘حمید گل وزیراعظم بنناچاہتے تھے‘ فوج میں انہیں کاغذی شیر کہا جاتا ہے۔ نجی ٹی وی سے گفتگو کرتے ہوئے انہوںنے کہا کہ تین نومبر 2007ء کو ایمرجنسی لگانے سے قبل میں نے آرمی چیف جنرل اشفاق پرویز کیانی‘ آئی ایس آئی کے سربراہ اور 9کور کمانڈروں سے مشاورت کی تھیں۔ سب نے یہی مشورہ دیا کہ ایمرجنسی نافذ کی جائے۔ اس وقت کے وزیر اعظم ، وفاقی کابینہ اور گورنرز کی بھی یہی رائے تھی اس لئے 3نومبر کا اقدام حکومت اور فوج کا مشترکہ اقدام تھا۔ انہوں نے کہا کہ بھارت میں چالیس منٹ دورانیے کے دو لیکچرز دے کر دو لاکھ ڈالر وصول کئے تھے۔ ایک اور سوال کے جواب میں انہوں نے کہا کہ میرے دور میں کسی کو پاکستان کیخلاف بولنے کی جرات نہیں ہوئی مگر اب کھلم کھلا بلوچستان کی آزادی کی بات ہورہی ہے‘ لال مسجد کی دوبارہ تعمیر کیلئے نوازشریف رقم فراہم کررہے ہیں۔ا نہوں نے کہاکہ امریکہ کے حوالے سے میری اور صدر آصف علی زرداری کی خارجہ پالیسی میں کوئی فرق نہیں ہے۔ نائن الیون کے بعد امریکہ کی بات نہ مانی جاتی تو امریکی فوج پاکستان میں داخل ہو کر ہمارے ایٹمی اثاثوں پر قبضہ کر سکتی تھی اور یہ بھی ہو سکتا تھا کہ امریکہ اور بھارت مل کر پاکستان پر حملہ کر دیتے۔ انہوں نے کہاکہ اکبر بگٹی قتل اور آرٹیکل 6کا سامنا کرنے کو تیار ہوں۔ اُمید ہے چیف جسٹس انصاف فراہم کرینگے۔ انہوں نے کہاکہ میرے خلاف آرٹیکل 6کا مقدمہ چلایا گیا تو میں ساتھ دینے والے ججوں کیخلاف بھی اسی آرٹیکل کے تحت کارروائی کا مطالبہ کرونگا۔ دریں اثناء ریڈیو نیوز کے مطابق پرویز مشرف نے کہا ہے کہ میرے اور موجودہ حکومت کے درمیان کوئی معاہدہ نہیں۔ انہوں نے کہاکہ سعودی عرب کے شاہ عبداللہ نے انہیں قوم سے معافی مانگنے کیلئے نہیں کہا۔ این آر او پر تمام سیاسی قوتوں کو اعتماد میں لیا گیا تھا‘ مشرف نے کہاکہ شجاعت حسین کی یہ بات غلط ہے کہ ق لیگ کو ہرانے کیلئے دھاندلی کرائی۔ ایک سوال پر کہاکہ میں پاکستان آکر سیاست کر سکتا ہوں۔ انہوں نے کہاکہ سیاستدان خود فوج کو مداخلت کی دعوت دیتے ہیں۔

  • Kashif said:

    @Bawa

    I hope you cursed him when King Abbdullah saved Nawaz Sahrif from GHQ. Its very important for your impartiality.

  • runaway said:

    Shouldn’t the curse be on those who let him interfere or call on him to interfere.

    For us, all our problems are caused by Americans, Israel, India and now addding Saudi to this list. We are so masoom, everyone takes advantage of us.

  • Bawa said:

    @ Kashif & runaway

    Yes Sir! I did it, I believe leaders should live and die with the nation. Please read my comments in respose to the posting of Bilal Durrani

    چار دن جیل میں گزارنے پڑے تو نانی یاد آگئی. لیڈر وہ ہوتا ہے جو قوم کے ساتھ جیتا ہے اور قوم کے ساتھ مارتا ہے. قوم انکی رہائی کیلیے تحریک چلا رہی تھی اور وہ قوم کو آ مریت کے شکنجے میں چھوڑ کر بیرون آقاؤں کی مدد سے عیش و عشرت کی زندگی گزارنے ملک سے باھر چلے گۓ

    http://pkpolitics.com/2009/08/20/off-the-record-20-august-2009/

  • Shahid Ali said:

    Most of the people are saying that NS will surrender. Why… What is the reason… Aisa kiya hai Saudi King kay paas kay uuss ki baat ka inkaar nahi kiya ja sakta.. Yeh chakkar kiya hai ????

  • Bawa said:

    @ Shahid Ali
    Most of the people are saying that NS will surrender. Why… What is the reason… Aisa kiya hai Saudi King kay paas kay uuss ki baat ka inkaar nahi kiya ja sakta.. Yeh chakkar kiya hai ????

    جناب سرنڈر کریں گے نہیں بلکہ سرنڈر کر چکے ہیں. غلاموں کی اتنی اوقات کہاں کہ وہ آقاووں کی بات رد کر سکیں. کل پھر بوٹوں والے آگے تو کون بچائے گا؟

  • Bawa said:

    ملکی و غیر ملکی قوتیں ضامن تھیں‘ مشرف کو محفوظ راستہ دینے میں شریک تھا : زرداری

    اسلام آباد (صابر شاکر + عترت جعفری + ایجنسیاں) صدر آصف زرداری نے کہا ہے کہ پرویز مشرف کو محفوظ راستہ دینے میں ملکی اور غیر ملکی قوتیں ضامن ہیں جبکہ مذاکرات میں وہ بھی شامل رہے ہیں‘ جب ان سے پوچھا گیا کہ کیا چیف آف آرمی سٹاف جنرل اشفاق پرویز کیانی اور شاہ عبداﷲ بھی ضامنوں میںشامل ہیں تو صدر زرداری نے کہا کہ سٹیک ہولڈرز میں ملکی اور غیر ملکی شامل ہیں۔ جی این آئی کے مطابق صدر نے کہا کہ مشرف کو محفوظ راستہ دینے کیلئے مشاورت میں جنرل اشفاق پرویز کیانی بھی شامل تھے۔

  • Ahmad said:

    Shahid Ali said:
    Most of the people are saying that NS will surrender. Why… What is the reason… Aisa kiya hai Saudi King kay paas kay uuss ki baat ka inkaar nahi kiya ja sakta.. Yeh chakkar kiya hai ????

    Hoo chuka hay nawaz shareef surrender,aur kia chahtay hoo tum loog.Saudi oont tumharay khaimay main aa chukaa hay,ab tumharee baree hay khaimay sa bahar nikalnay kee.

  • Ahmad said:

    Is qoom ko hamesha Baygairat leadran e karam hee mialay hain,Jo aik baar deel kar sakta hay woh doosaree bar aur teesaree bar bhee deel kar sakta hay.
    KHAO PIO AUR AISH KARO.This is the moto of ours leaders.Hamaray siasatdan hameen ko hee baywaqoof banaay ja rahay hain.
    is qoom ko kabhee aqal nahee aa sakti.

  • geelemitti said:

    US/INDIA/ISRAEL alliance will do what ever they could to save Musharraf because they know only the trial of Musharraf could provide some consolation to the pople of Baluchistan and if this does not happen, that will seal the fate of Pakistan as single entity and will act as catalyst in the process of disintigration of Pakistan, the ultimate goal.

    Musharraf is pardoned by Saudi Government and we,the slaves of Pakistan have already said “Sar-e-Tasleem Khum”. Muslim League will commit a political suiside and loose their credibility for ever if Musharraf is pardoned hence strenghtened the position of PPP and Zardari to keep rest of the Pakistan under control.

    Pakistan’s Atomic assets, in my opinion, have already been neutralized it is just the matter of time this will be made public , or leaked to public.

    and public.., well they will do what they have been doing all along, put a Jay-Namaz on the ground and start to pray to Allah to send SOME ONE ELSE to rescue this beloved nation of Allah from misery and demise.

  • Bawa said:

    @ geelemitti
    US/INDIA/ISRAEL alliance will do what ever they could to save Musharraf

    Please add our beloved Saudi Arabia in this list too.

  • rainbow22 said:

    Lanat on Mian Bamash Sharif for having a rapist in his party.

  • hafeez said:

    NS is not a true leader and noon is not a realdemcratic force aswell ppp…. we shud clear about them…. baqi rahi real non democratic forces ki baat …. to un ke khilaf baat nahin ho sakti … iss baat ko edit kardia jata he…. na jane kioon???

  • hafeez said:

    my dear friends!!!! hamri country ka real problem non democratic forces ka country per qabza he… woh khud corrut hain aur corrupt politicians ko pasand karte hain… aksar khud hakoomat karte hain jab awam tang aa jate hain to NS ya ZARDARI type ppl ko hakoomat dekar power play karte hain asli hakoomat phir bhi pindi group hi ki hoti he…. woh apna hissa poora lete hain laikin badnami main hissa sirf siasat danon ka hota he

  • hafeez said:

    zardari saab ne mush ko safe passage dia he laikin iss main national aur intl dono kisam ki astablushment shamil thi… aur wesay bhi….” baggers has no choice” jab hum har waqt bagging hi karte rehtay hain to …. bahar ke faislay kioon na manain gay??? but yeh baat wazeh ho jani chaheay ke iss deal main qoumi salamti group yeni watan kay rakhwalay waardi walay poori tarha shamil thay … nihayet hi dukh se kehna parta he ke … rah e haq kay shaheedon aue wafa ki tasweeron ne amrica aur euorope se wafa ki he aur apni qaum se be vafaee

  • hafeez said:

    baqi rahi noon ki baat……. to brothers noon ho ya qaaf ho ya pppp ho sab aik hain…. awam ko dukh dena ho…. sab aik hain…. ghurabat ko increase karna ho sabb aik hain….. amrica ko adday dena hon sabb aik hain….. drone attacks per jhota ehtjaj karna ho sab aik hain…. chini mafis ko tahaffuz dena ho sabb aik hain…. awam ko ghulam banana ho, corruption ko sheaar banana ho, amrica ki ghulami karni ho, aqraba parwari karni ho, marit ki aisi tesi phairni ho, badmshi aur la qanooniat ka saath dena ho, sab aik hain hain … aur wardi walay in kay sardaar hain

  • PakiGal007 said:

    Musharraff traveling to United States next week…

    http://www.philadelphiaspeakersseries.org/speaker1.htm

  • Kashif said:

    First of all Musharaaf won’t be trialed under article 6 no matter what. Hypothetically even if he is trialed what issues hius trila will address? Can anyone assure if Musharaaf is hanged there will be no military intervention in future. No one can. If Gen. Kiyani takes over today in a week Pakistan ‘d be like it was on 20th Oct 1999.

    NS needs to focus on real issues Musharaaf’s trial is not only impossible its not an issue.

    I still remember how popular was Musharaaf for first 7 years of his rule. Up untill judicial movement both BB and NS could not bring out 5000 people for demonstration. Things haven’t changed much if GHQ takes over I won’t be surprised if both Washington and masses accept them again. Instead of blaming Generals and politicans for repeated military coups I ‘d blame masses. We the people invite and tollerate military a=so we should be blamed.

  • gardezi said:

    PML[n] have already surrendered…………….

    NS&SS plus PPP will keep making the nation foooooooooooooooool

    and interestingly our masses will continue to be fooled……by NS & AZ

    I KNEW it goona happen…………………………….

    The only hope is CJ,

    Cause he refused to bow down to Musarafffffffffff

    Neither he is reinstated by any DEAL nor by GUARANTORSSSSSSSSSS

  • sahibzada1 said:

    i think Nawaz sharif will not let him go…. People have always been miscalculating Mian Sahib’s moves may it be 1993 or March 2009

  • Shahid Ali said:

    @gardezi

    “The only hope is CJ,

    Cause he refused to bow down to Musarafffffffffff

    Neither he is reinstated by any DEAL nor by GUARANTORSSSSSSSSSS”

    ——–

    Wait for few years.. let CJ, Kyani and others retire… you will hear the real story….

    Sorry cz im disappointing you but dont keep any false hope in your heart and mind.

    just take one example..
    During the Musharraf’s era when there was tussle between govt. and judges, SHC judge took suo motto action for traffic jam in Karachi. All govt officials were summoned and warned.

    Today courts are doing nothing over flour, sugar, fuel, electricity, inflation, rulers ayashi, bullet proof cars, shaheed bibis mazar by sind govt….. courts are hearing cases on naseebo lal’s songs …

    everybody is setting personal issues, nobody care about common man…….

  • suchkiawaz said:

    He will never forget musharraf but he cant reject his mater,s orders.

  • gardezi said:

    @Shahid Ali ,

    Truly said,

    But we must knock the minds of those who has made countless promises to

    THE NATION at least……………………………….

    Though CJ his ignored some of very important matters, but his full bench

    decision of 31st July 2009 is HISTORIC one,lets wait 120 days……

    then LET THE GAME BEGUN………………………………..

  • wbuttar said:

    I opted for first option but I want to add that the PML-N only use this issue for political gains rather on any principal. And this option must be included.

  • sadaat said:

    d prob with our nation is that if anyone do bad they are unhapy, if anything do good they r unhapy. Like cj order on petroleum price, many people start criticizing him that he is interfering into govt maters. If cj not interfere govt then stil people criticiz hm. Actualy v want cj to do more even if its extra-constitutional. Bear in mind he has to work and make decision in acc to rules and constitution. About ns, let him to com pak then c d reaction. Its expectd to c new wargame bw pml n & ppp. Ths time i can c an upper hand to pml n.

  • Taha said:

    why you guys worry about what NS going to decide. When he was in trouble, pakistani Awaam never came out to rescue him, its was King Abdullah save him from GHQ. If we all had came out on the street to save him then, we have the right to ask him any question. So my suggestion keep your mouth close and let him decide what he likes.

  • Bawa said:

    @ Taha
    why you guys worry about what NS going to decide. When he was in trouble, pakistani Awaam never came out to rescue him, its was King Abdullah save him from GHQ. If we all had came out on the street to save him then, we have the right to ask him any question. So my suggestion keep your mouth close and let him decide what he likes.

    Taha, advice your Nawaz Sharif to go to stupid King Abdullah and ask him for vote. Why he comes to Pakistani awaam and request for vote. He never trusted on Pakistani Awaam. Pakistani Awaam gave him 2/3rd majority in election and he appointed mama, chacha, taya, bhateeja, bhanja, damaad, munshi as president, cheif minister, ministers, mna, mpa, mayor etc. Late Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan and others including Kalsoom Nawaz Sharif was leading a movement to release Nawaz Sharif from jail and to restore his government but he and his wife was going to do a secret deal with Musharaf with the help of King Abdullah. Everything was in the newspapers at that time. The news reporters asked Kalsoom about the deal but she refused and the same night Pakistani awaam saw them escaping in the darkness of night. Nawaz Sharif denied any deal with Musharaf but it came out when Saudi Intelligent Head and Hareri kidnapped him from Islamabad airport and took him to back Saudi Arabia.

    He is a big liar. He always lay with the Pakistani Awaam but this great nation every time forgave him. Presently he is completely playing in the hands of Americans, Britians and Saudis. Pakistani awaam is expecting to play his important roll in this critical situation of Pakistan but he is a greedy man and always keeps him PM Ship instead of national interest.

  • Mahmud said:

    @Bawa gee,you are a true pakistani do not worry about someone beleive it or not,atleast i am your fan in all forums you give your feedback and i do read always your comments bacause you talk about realty and there are some folks who do not want to hear truth?

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