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		<title>By: tvanchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvanchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the new iri survey clearly shows where the anp stand now in their home town. now even the chand khappay won&#039;t help them save from their extinction. bye bye dinosaur bilour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the new iri survey clearly shows where the anp stand now in their home town. now even the chand khappay won&#8217;t help them save from their extinction. bye bye dinosaur bilour.</p>
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		<title>By: gengiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gengiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you had gone on the internet on 18th Sep. you would have found that the moon birth had taken place on that day 18th  somewhere. But the duration was for such a short while it was not practical to see. If you go by Astrophysics as some have suggested then have the Eid on 19th. 

But it was not even in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia no body watches the moon nor any witnesses are called for. Government decides and every one follows. If Mr. Billour wants to follow Saudi Arabia then he must follow The Government of Pakistan. UlulAmr. Atheeullah wa AtheeulRasool wa UlulAmriha. Follow Allah, Rasool and the ruler of the time. 

See how perfect are the Islamic orders. Otherwise it will be anarchy. Mr. Billour, Haji Adeel are all ignorant people and so is that Popalzai of some nondescript places in NWFP. They want to create anarchy so that they can go about with weapons terrorising people. They are just creating divisions in a united Ummah just as Wahabis and Salafis are doing in Pakistan and worldwide. I do not think we can compare a Cinema Running petty politician to an Islamic Scholar Muneeb Ul Rahman. For God&#039;s sake give me a break.

By such stupid things they cannot make a living at home. They go as far as Karachi 1,200 miles away to earn. If they had governed good in their area why would they have gone that far. Having made their own area an Ilaqa Ghair where no body can go and wants to go now they want to make the whole of Pakistan as Ilaqa Ghair where no body should want to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had gone on the internet on 18th Sep. you would have found that the moon birth had taken place on that day 18th  somewhere. But the duration was for such a short while it was not practical to see. If you go by Astrophysics as some have suggested then have the Eid on 19th. </p>
<p>But it was not even in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia no body watches the moon nor any witnesses are called for. Government decides and every one follows. If Mr. Billour wants to follow Saudi Arabia then he must follow The Government of Pakistan. UlulAmr. Atheeullah wa AtheeulRasool wa UlulAmriha. Follow Allah, Rasool and the ruler of the time. </p>
<p>See how perfect are the Islamic orders. Otherwise it will be anarchy. Mr. Billour, Haji Adeel are all ignorant people and so is that Popalzai of some nondescript places in NWFP. They want to create anarchy so that they can go about with weapons terrorising people. They are just creating divisions in a united Ummah just as Wahabis and Salafis are doing in Pakistan and worldwide. I do not think we can compare a Cinema Running petty politician to an Islamic Scholar Muneeb Ul Rahman. For God&#8217;s sake give me a break.</p>
<p>By such stupid things they cannot make a living at home. They go as far as Karachi 1,200 miles away to earn. If they had governed good in their area why would they have gone that far. Having made their own area an Ilaqa Ghair where no body can go and wants to go now they want to make the whole of Pakistan as Ilaqa Ghair where no body should want to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Taha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion Mufti Muneeb is very high qualified person. He always talks with logic and he does have people with him from, I guess in pakistan they call it Sparko to tell him about Moon Birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion Mufti Muneeb is very high qualified person. He always talks with logic and he does have people with him from, I guess in pakistan they call it Sparko to tell him about Moon Birth.</p>
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		<title>By: smssr84</title>
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		<dc:creator>smssr84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is funny how Jammat Ahmadiyya&#039;s name got involved in this mess!!!...... Ahmadis in Pakistan and in other Muslim countries follow what the govt announces. there is NO Eid day announced from Rabwah or Qadian or London (where Hazoor (ABA) resides)  and in rest of the countries.... we go by the lunar calender issued in the start of the year. that calender is scienfically calculated... and dates are exact. 

its total stupidity of this ANP leader ...... Ahmadis dont get involved in such a mess... and dont stoop to the level of name calling!!

btw.... all the ppl who are offended by this statement... should now understand what we Ahmadis go through when they are called non-muslims and what not!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is funny how Jammat Ahmadiyya&#8217;s name got involved in this mess!!!&#8230;&#8230; Ahmadis in Pakistan and in other Muslim countries follow what the govt announces. there is NO Eid day announced from Rabwah or Qadian or London (where Hazoor (ABA) resides)  and in rest of the countries&#8230;. we go by the lunar calender issued in the start of the year. that calender is scienfically calculated&#8230; and dates are exact. </p>
<p>its total stupidity of this ANP leader &#8230;&#8230; Ahmadis dont get involved in such a mess&#8230; and dont stoop to the level of name calling!!</p>
<p>btw&#8230;. all the ppl who are offended by this statement&#8230; should now understand what we Ahmadis go through when they are called non-muslims and what not!!</p>
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		<title>By: rainbow22</title>
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		<dc:creator>rainbow22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Blor failed to start a racis-fight so know he is trying to start a sect fight. There is two law of celebrating eid,1) see the moon in your country 2)the moon is watched in any islamic country. Majorty of Pakistan celebrate after seeing moon in Pakistan, and those who want to celbrate with Saudia can do that. We are all muslims no qadianis. These rasict partys(MQM, ANP, BNP) are always looking for a chance to start a fight among muslims!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Blor failed to start a racis-fight so know he is trying to start a sect fight. There is two law of celebrating eid,1) see the moon in your country 2)the moon is watched in any islamic country. Majorty of Pakistan celebrate after seeing moon in Pakistan, and those who want to celbrate with Saudia can do that. We are all muslims no qadianis. These rasict partys(MQM, ANP, BNP) are always looking for a chance to start a fight among muslims!</p>
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		<title>By: munna</title>
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		<dc:creator>munna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no harm to celebrate eid as per scientific calculation, atleast it gives you a common ground, but celebrating eid with Saudia is a question mark on common sense basis. 
Are not we mature enough to handle such a small things ourself. Saidly we didnt learn any lesson wiht Taliban Fitna. ANP and Masjid Qasim Khan, they are real one who sponsor  the fundamentalism in our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no harm to celebrate eid as per scientific calculation, atleast it gives you a common ground, but celebrating eid with Saudia is a question mark on common sense basis.<br />
Are not we mature enough to handle such a small things ourself. Saidly we didnt learn any lesson wiht Taliban Fitna. ANP and Masjid Qasim Khan, they are real one who sponsor  the fundamentalism in our country.</p>
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		<title>By: tvanchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvanchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@babloo
our forefathers were not sikhs. they were muslims. i guess if i am not wrong ur forefathers were shudars and dalits of uttar pradesh. mayawati is ur aunty. say pranam to her when u c her on tv next time. mqm r dehshatgards in jeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@babloo<br />
our forefathers were not sikhs. they were muslims. i guess if i am not wrong ur forefathers were shudars and dalits of uttar pradesh. mayawati is ur aunty. say pranam to her when u c her on tv next time. mqm r dehshatgards in jeans.</p>
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		<title>By: Bawa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babloo 
 Bawa, باوا جی ذرا دھان سے
پوری دنیا مے اگر سکھ اور پٹھان کی گواہی قبول نہیں ہے تو یہ مت بھولو کے سارےکے سارے سکھ پنجابی ہے اور پنجابی اپنے آباؤ اجداد کے بارے مے برا نہیں کہتے
بہتر حیی ہوگا کے اس بحث لا حاصل کو کسی اور طرف نہ لے جایا جانے


Dear Babloo, Please tell me which religion is the older in Punjab Islam or Sikhism? sikhism is two or three hundreds years old while Islam is more than one thousand years old in Punjab. How do you say that Sikhs are our forefathers? For your information our forefathers were from Arab states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babloo<br />
 Bawa, باوا جی ذرا دھان سے<br />
پوری دنیا مے اگر سکھ اور پٹھان کی گواہی قبول نہیں ہے تو یہ مت بھولو کے سارےکے سارے سکھ پنجابی ہے اور پنجابی اپنے آباؤ اجداد کے بارے مے برا نہیں کہتے<br />
بہتر حیی ہوگا کے اس بحث لا حاصل کو کسی اور طرف نہ لے جایا جانے</p>
<p>Dear Babloo, Please tell me which religion is the older in Punjab Islam or Sikhism? sikhism is two or three hundreds years old while Islam is more than one thousand years old in Punjab. How do you say that Sikhs are our forefathers? For your information our forefathers were from Arab states.</p>
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		<title>By: Babloo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bawa

باوا جی ذرا دھان سے 
پوری دنیا مے اگر سکھ اور پٹھان کی گواہی قبول نہیں ہے تو یہ مت بھولو کے سارےکے سارے سکھ  پنجابی ہے اور پنجابی اپنے آباؤ اجداد کے بارے مے برا نہیں کہتے
بہتر حیی ہوگا کے اس بحث لا حاصل کو کسی اور طرف نہ لے جایا جانے
Once again I would like to say Mullah&#039;s are good for sightation of Moon but ugly on the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bawa</p>
<p>باوا جی ذرا دھان سے<br />
پوری دنیا مے اگر سکھ اور پٹھان کی گواہی قبول نہیں ہے تو یہ مت بھولو کے سارےکے سارے سکھ  پنجابی ہے اور پنجابی اپنے آباؤ اجداد کے بارے مے برا نہیں کہتے<br />
بہتر حیی ہوگا کے اس بحث لا حاصل کو کسی اور طرف نہ لے جایا جانے<br />
Once again I would like to say Mullah&#8217;s are good for sightation of Moon but ugly on the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: TruePaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruePaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Idiotic leadership of ANP have always acted against unity of Pakistani ppl. Their politics starts with &quot;Pakhtoonistan&quot; and ends with it. They have punjab phobia with no vision to rule. I really think they all should be hanged just like taliban in swat.
They oppose kalabagh dam just to keep their politics alive while all experts throughout the world have approved this dam..... but ANP won&#039;t let it happen.
Why??? because they dont want Pakistan to prosper &amp; be a part of Afghanistan.

Even a student of Islam can tell you that whatever these idiots did with the help of &quot;sold ulamas&quot; was wrong but they never had the head to accept their fault. Previously Molvi fazalullah &amp; Betullah Mehsud were the beloved molvi&#039;s but now they hate them............ but after paying how much cost??? Same will soon happen to m*ther f*ckrs sitting in masjid Qasim. They are &quot;fasadis&quot; as named by Quran &amp; Quran orders to tackle them with power. Mufti Muneeb is doing the right thing.

Shame on our govt who is continuously being black mailed by two linguistic parties (ANP &amp; MQM). Any supporter of Bilore with some head should answer following questions:

1- Why there is a conflict always on Ramdan &amp; Eid ul Fitr moon. Why not on other moons? Eid Ul Adha is one, Eid Milad un Nabi is one, Muharram is one &amp; so are the others. If you want to verify, arrange alternate committed for the whole year &amp; they will all be proved wrong in three months time. Afterall moon is not pakhtoon &amp; does not use niswar.
2- Why in 62 years history of Pakistan, only a small area of NWFP always sees moon (presumably two legged moon in their bed).
3- Who gave the authority to announce Eid to a &quot;unofficial&quot; committee. ANP govt has itself allowed ppl to challenge its writ.
4- Since it was unofficial, any error with their 28- fasting Eid lies on ppl who celebrated premature Eid as they had no official binding to do so. If mufti muneeb makes an error, sole responsibility of entire nation lies on his shoulders and he will be answerable to Allah. But it seems we really dont believe in Allah &amp; want to replace mufti muneeb for not listening to pakhtoons. What happened to previous chairmans??? why was never single Eid in Pakistan&#039;s history before mufti muneeb. central govt must take stand against replacement of mufti muneeb. otherwise there is no end to this.
5- If you don&#039;t believe in SUPARCO, go to NASA or any other space lab to get the verification but please don&#039;t put FASAD on earth in the name of Islam.

I hope some of the pakhtoons will want to fast late for the one they are short.
May Allah Help us all &amp; give us true knowledge of Islam..... Ameen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Idiotic leadership of ANP have always acted against unity of Pakistani ppl. Their politics starts with &#8220;Pakhtoonistan&#8221; and ends with it. They have punjab phobia with no vision to rule. I really think they all should be hanged just like taliban in swat.<br />
They oppose kalabagh dam just to keep their politics alive while all experts throughout the world have approved this dam&#8230;.. but ANP won&#8217;t let it happen.<br />
Why??? because they dont want Pakistan to prosper &amp; be a part of Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Even a student of Islam can tell you that whatever these idiots did with the help of &#8220;sold ulamas&#8221; was wrong but they never had the head to accept their fault. Previously Molvi fazalullah &amp; Betullah Mehsud were the beloved molvi&#8217;s but now they hate them&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; but after paying how much cost??? Same will soon happen to m*ther f*ckrs sitting in masjid Qasim. They are &#8220;fasadis&#8221; as named by Quran &amp; Quran orders to tackle them with power. Mufti Muneeb is doing the right thing.</p>
<p>Shame on our govt who is continuously being black mailed by two linguistic parties (ANP &amp; MQM). Any supporter of Bilore with some head should answer following questions:</p>
<p>1- Why there is a conflict always on Ramdan &amp; Eid ul Fitr moon. Why not on other moons? Eid Ul Adha is one, Eid Milad un Nabi is one, Muharram is one &amp; so are the others. If you want to verify, arrange alternate committed for the whole year &amp; they will all be proved wrong in three months time. Afterall moon is not pakhtoon &amp; does not use niswar.<br />
2- Why in 62 years history of Pakistan, only a small area of NWFP always sees moon (presumably two legged moon in their bed).<br />
3- Who gave the authority to announce Eid to a &#8220;unofficial&#8221; committee. ANP govt has itself allowed ppl to challenge its writ.<br />
4- Since it was unofficial, any error with their 28- fasting Eid lies on ppl who celebrated premature Eid as they had no official binding to do so. If mufti muneeb makes an error, sole responsibility of entire nation lies on his shoulders and he will be answerable to Allah. But it seems we really dont believe in Allah &amp; want to replace mufti muneeb for not listening to pakhtoons. What happened to previous chairmans??? why was never single Eid in Pakistan&#8217;s history before mufti muneeb. central govt must take stand against replacement of mufti muneeb. otherwise there is no end to this.<br />
5- If you don&#8217;t believe in SUPARCO, go to NASA or any other space lab to get the verification but please don&#8217;t put FASAD on earth in the name of Islam.</p>
<p>I hope some of the pakhtoons will want to fast late for the one they are short.<br />
May Allah Help us all &amp; give us true knowledge of Islam&#8230;.. Ameen.</p>
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