Ahsan and Ch Nisar both want Nawaz Sharif to stand against the govt and derail this week system again. Ashan Iqbal is the person who took huge money from ISI in 1988 elections. Then he remains on ISI payroll on a long way and now look at the way he is talking.
What kind of politicians we have? What a blessed country and nation we are.
@afisadi
stop thnking from ur @$$
For your information, Ahsan Iqbal did not take part in 1988 elections.
Do you have any proof about that allegation of taking money from ISI?
you are a liar and your comments make no sense.
Ahsan Iqbal a Gem..wow..what is wrong with you guys, comeon, you all know he is with Nawaz sharif from a long time and Nawaz Sharif was taking money from ISI, so what make you think that Ahsan Iqbal abstain himself and left NS at that time. Why do you guys have such a short term memmory, its not even a month that Brig Imtiaz disclosed who took money during that era and we all know that we havent heard so far from NS that he didnt. They all are the same when they are in they are the most corrupt people on planet earth and when they are out in opposition they will portray themselves as an angel just arrived from junnah. I am an independent I like Imran khan, I think he is the most honest person in pakistan with integrity and decency. I hope the poor illetrate people of pakistan get some sense and once for all leave all the corrupt politicians like Ahsan Iqbal and Zardari. May allah bless pakistan and Pakistan Zindabad.
@Muhammad Usman
Mr Usman I didn’t meant to insult anyone here, do you know what is the literacy rate in pakistan , if I am not wrong its 27%. It was my personal opinion about IK that he is the only decent character in pakistan politics so far in last 20 yrs. Well so far the mass majority of poor people of pakistan making the wrong decision from last 60 yrs and thats why we end up with the corrupt politicians of PML(N), PML (Q) and PPPP. I will exunerate MQM as they do not represet anything out of kar/Hyd. Anyway you look more arrogant then me as you are name calling as this is just a discussion or may I say brain storming, so please take it easy. Dont be too mad it ain’t good for you as you can have health problems and you dont wanna end up in a hospital where they will ask you to put money first before they write a prescription.
Cheers
Off course this being a PML-N website with all sort of pseudo intellectuals participating, we can only expect defence of people like Ahsan Iqbal who was an IJT activist and later on joined the PML-N. I think he failed to identify any of the clauses of the Kerry Lugar Bill that are against national sovereignty. I am dead sure, he and his henchmen have not read the bill. To read all you need is an open eye and an open mind. PML-N doesnt have it.
Dont worry about my healthand my financial status.
Again i can see contempt and arrogance in yourcomment.
Leave karachi and hyderabad . You mean to say othe r uran centres like quetta, peshawar, lahore, nawabshah, dadu, faisalabad and rawalpindi are not educated since they dont have representation of particular ethnic party.
if we take 27 lietratcy rate as you claim—- turn out in last polls was 40 some thing meaning 27 plus 13-15 percent poor ileterate voted.
stop hving contempt about other cities of pkistan.
superiority complex is bad and injurios for health.
@ americandesi
ur metal health is evident from the nick u ve chosen.. people like u who suffer from identity crisis shouldn’t call themselves “independent”….. U r a third rated citizen of a so called literate society… or even now u people r not considered citizens at all…. so if u r happy living there, its fine with us. But don’t dare calling our countrymen illeterate …… this nation has more awareness more resilience more humanity than ur dumb americans ……… we will not let zoinists to pursue thier henious agenda on out motherland …. we shall fight
@Americandesi,
I am agreed with you that our 99% politicians are damn corroupt, no doubt about it and some’s names reputation in corroupt is known worldwide, even international media doesn’t hesitate to mention their reputation as corroupt politicians We have tried all these people in power politics more than two times and we know the results hopeless. We haven’t tried IK on power seat so far, there is no harm to try him for just once (whereas others are give three time chances) time and see, rest have lost their reputation for power seat, if IK doesn’t show the improvement in year or so, he should be kicked out too right away.
Ahsan Iqbal is smart and to some extent clean politician but in this program he couldn’t defend his party lines. I won’t blame him. There are few indefensibles that just can not be defended.
1. Shahbaz Shari and Ch. Nisar’s meetings with Gen. Kiyani is simply indefensible and is clear violation of CoD.
2. Opposition to KL bill to get in bed with GHQ even though PMLN cliams to be new anti-establishment party can not be defended.
3. Nawaz Sharif’s relations with Saudi gov and then Saudi gov’s relation with our military establishment can not be defended. If PMLN wants to keep Saudis out of our domestic affairs why Mian Sb. flew to that country with whole family under deal.
The bottom line is PMLN is trying to paint itself populist party but they are not. They do not have balls to stand against GHQ, Taliban, Saudis, Americans. Thats why they don’t take any stand on any issue. Their only source of popularity is Zardari’s opposition. Thanks to Zardari’s blunders Nawaz Sharif is popular other he represents that same status quo that needs to be challenged.
Unfortunately this smart man is being used by a party in which no can have any hope for progress unless they are closely related to Mians.
His arguments are absurd. We cannot introduce anything in the parliament unless PPP assures that it will vote on it. Basically he is saying the same thing as the PM that if 100% of the parliament is ready we can proceed.
Turning parliamentary democracy on its head. Unless someone assures them before that their resolution will pass, they will not introduce anything.
Basically a bunch of arrogant rich people in which this educated man is stuck in between having to do their dirty work.
@aliimran
Can you read English? It says he joined IJI in 1988. But still he is one of most respectable politician in Pakistan. Smart, intelligent and Bright.
Ahsen iqbal is JI worker,His mother was the member of Zia”s Mejlis-i-shurra.He left his mother party JI and joined PML .He is a power hungry man like hanif Abassi(also a JI worker join PML-N in 2008 after JI bycott the election).Now a wants to derail democracy.But NS is not ib this mood.so he become frustrated sometimes.
Ahsan and Ch Nisar both want Nawaz Sharif to stand against the govt and derail this week system again. Ashan Iqbal is the person who took huge money from ISI in 1988 elections. Then he remains on ISI payroll on a long way and now look at the way he is talking.
What kind of politicians we have? What a blessed country and nation we are.
Aftab Ahmad
@afisadi
stop thnking from ur @$$
For your information, Ahsan Iqbal did not take part in 1988 elections.
Do you have any proof about that allegation of taking money from ISI?
you are a liar and your comments make no sense.
@Hello
u r absolutly right.
may be this @afisadi was Ahsan Iqbal’s accountant at that time lol.
sitting in usa and commenting about pakistan politicians, i dont know how thick mind this
person @afisadi has. No sense at all in his comments.
Really a gem Ahsan Iqbal is.
well precise and accurate responses to Iftikhar.
@afisadi
what,s wrong with you read and apolozize
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahsan_Iqbal
Ahsan Iqbal a Gem..wow..what is wrong with you guys, comeon, you all know he is with Nawaz sharif from a long time and Nawaz Sharif was taking money from ISI, so what make you think that Ahsan Iqbal abstain himself and left NS at that time. Why do you guys have such a short term memmory, its not even a month that Brig Imtiaz disclosed who took money during that era and we all know that we havent heard so far from NS that he didnt. They all are the same when they are in they are the most corrupt people on planet earth and when they are out in opposition they will portray themselves as an angel just arrived from junnah. I am an independent I like Imran khan, I think he is the most honest person in pakistan with integrity and decency. I hope the poor illetrate people of pakistan get some sense and once for all leave all the corrupt politicians like Ahsan Iqbal and Zardari. May allah bless pakistan and Pakistan Zindabad.
@ americandesi
where has IK come in this discussion. no where in interview ik was discussed.
By the way your logic that since NS took money all his party legislators have taken money as well. crap logic.
poor illetrate people of pakistan—– Hello sir come out of ignorance and realize poor people are not wrong.
you american desi confused —– arrogant. i can see contempt and pejeducie in your above comment about common man.
come to pakistan and contribute rather than sitting in cozy living room of cali fornia.
if you feel so much for poor pakistanis—– or shut up
@Muhammad Usman
Mr Usman I didn’t meant to insult anyone here, do you know what is the literacy rate in pakistan , if I am not wrong its 27%. It was my personal opinion about IK that he is the only decent character in pakistan politics so far in last 20 yrs. Well so far the mass majority of poor people of pakistan making the wrong decision from last 60 yrs and thats why we end up with the corrupt politicians of PML(N), PML (Q) and PPPP. I will exunerate MQM as they do not represet anything out of kar/Hyd. Anyway you look more arrogant then me as you are name calling as this is just a discussion or may I say brain storming, so please take it easy. Dont be too mad it ain’t good for you as you can have health problems and you dont wanna end up in a hospital where they will ask you to put money first before they write a prescription.
Cheers
@ americandesi … thanks for letting us know literacy rate in Pakistan. Btw majority of Pakistanis in US (from where you) happen to be taxi drivers.
@ Muhammad Usman …. You are 100% right. Even though i myself live in states but i agree with you.
Off course this being a PML-N website with all sort of pseudo intellectuals participating, we can only expect defence of people like Ahsan Iqbal who was an IJT activist and later on joined the PML-N. I think he failed to identify any of the clauses of the Kerry Lugar Bill that are against national sovereignty. I am dead sure, he and his henchmen have not read the bill. To read all you need is an open eye and an open mind. PML-N doesnt have it.
Ihsan Iqbal is a great asset for Pakistan !!!
@ american desi
Dont worry about my healthand my financial status.
Again i can see contempt and arrogance in yourcomment.
Leave karachi and hyderabad . You mean to say othe r uran centres like quetta, peshawar, lahore, nawabshah, dadu, faisalabad and rawalpindi are not educated since they dont have representation of particular ethnic party.
if we take 27 lietratcy rate as you claim—- turn out in last polls was 40 some thing meaning 27 plus 13-15 percent poor ileterate voted.
stop hving contempt about other cities of pkistan.
superiority complex is bad and injurios for health.
@ americandesi
ur metal health is evident from the nick u ve chosen.. people like u who suffer from identity crisis shouldn’t call themselves “independent”….. U r a third rated citizen of a so called literate society… or even now u people r not considered citizens at all…. so if u r happy living there, its fine with us. But don’t dare calling our countrymen illeterate …… this nation has more awareness more resilience more humanity than ur dumb americans ……… we will not let zoinists to pursue thier henious agenda on out motherland …. we shall fight
Merey Mutabiq wanted
@Americandesi,
I am agreed with you that our 99% politicians are damn corroupt, no doubt about it and some’s names reputation in corroupt is known worldwide, even international media doesn’t hesitate to mention their reputation as corroupt politicians We have tried all these people in power politics more than two times and we know the results hopeless. We haven’t tried IK on power seat so far, there is no harm to try him for just once (whereas others are give three time chances) time and see, rest have lost their reputation for power seat, if IK doesn’t show the improvement in year or so, he should be kicked out too right away.
Ahsan Iqbal is smart and to some extent clean politician but in this program he couldn’t defend his party lines. I won’t blame him. There are few indefensibles that just can not be defended.
1. Shahbaz Shari and Ch. Nisar’s meetings with Gen. Kiyani is simply indefensible and is clear violation of CoD.
2. Opposition to KL bill to get in bed with GHQ even though PMLN cliams to be new anti-establishment party can not be defended.
3. Nawaz Sharif’s relations with Saudi gov and then Saudi gov’s relation with our military establishment can not be defended. If PMLN wants to keep Saudis out of our domestic affairs why Mian Sb. flew to that country with whole family under deal.
The bottom line is PMLN is trying to paint itself populist party but they are not. They do not have balls to stand against GHQ, Taliban, Saudis, Americans. Thats why they don’t take any stand on any issue. Their only source of popularity is Zardari’s opposition. Thanks to Zardari’s blunders Nawaz Sharif is popular other he represents that same status quo that needs to be challenged.
Unfortunately this smart man is being used by a party in which no can have any hope for progress unless they are closely related to Mians.
His arguments are absurd. We cannot introduce anything in the parliament unless PPP assures that it will vote on it. Basically he is saying the same thing as the PM that if 100% of the parliament is ready we can proceed.
Turning parliamentary democracy on its head. Unless someone assures them before that their resolution will pass, they will not introduce anything.
Basically a bunch of arrogant rich people in which this educated man is stuck in between having to do their dirty work.
@aliimran
Can you read English? It says he joined IJI in 1988. But still he is one of most respectable politician in Pakistan. Smart, intelligent and Bright.
Ahsen iqbal is JI worker,His mother was the member of Zia”s Mejlis-i-shurra.He left his mother party JI and joined PML .He is a power hungry man like hanif Abassi(also a JI worker join PML-N in 2008 after JI bycott the election).Now a wants to derail democracy.But NS is not ib this mood.so he become frustrated sometimes.
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