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		<title>By: anticorruption</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-269416</link>
		<dc:creator>anticorruption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the jialas mentioning Pakistan steel mills as one of ZAB&#039;s contributions, the project was actually started in Ayub Khan&#039;s time. It was continued by Yahya and ZAB, and hhappened to reach its completion in Zab&#039;s period. Giving him al the credit for it is just ridiculous</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the jialas mentioning Pakistan steel mills as one of ZAB&#8217;s contributions, the project was actually started in Ayub Khan&#8217;s time. It was continued by Yahya and ZAB, and hhappened to reach its completion in Zab&#8217;s period. Giving him al the credit for it is just ridiculous</p>
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		<title>By: sok</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268897</link>
		<dc:creator>sok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will be best if we make the government term 3 years only (Same as some other western countries). It will take them some time to settle once elected and before they know there will be elections. That will make them work harder and less pressure from the opposition too as opposition know that all they have to do is wait a few years only.

What do you guys think?. If enough people say yes, we can request the Admin to do a poll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will be best if we make the government term 3 years only (Same as some other western countries). It will take them some time to settle once elected and before they know there will be elections. That will make them work harder and less pressure from the opposition too as opposition know that all they have to do is wait a few years only.</p>
<p>What do you guys think?. If enough people say yes, we can request the Admin to do a poll.</p>
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		<title>By: mhali</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268783</link>
		<dc:creator>mhali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@concernedamericanpak 

few things to note here.

i did not say anything about your point of view, everyone has the right to have
any point of view and has the right to support anyone. i do not disagree with you.
but if you read my message i was talking about the language which is used in 
posts.  we can be against anyone based on facts and we should try to use facts
and civil language to express our point of view.  which looks more civilized way
to discuss things. if everyone starts calling names to each other it does not look good.
so it was about langauge not point of view.

the second thing is i m not sure why my certain comments are not posted. i dont see
any reason for that as i also have right to support anyone and be against of anyone
based on facts. and i usually explain the facts.  may be they are not in line with the
common perception. most of the times perception is different then reality. i talk
mostly about reality and facts but not sure why my comments are not posted.

the third thing is only i was not engaging you, sometimes you answer to my post
and sometimes i answer to your posts.  so if you do not want to answer to any
particular post and engage anyone that is fine with me. but i can still address other
people who are more interested in discussion based on facts. 

i do not support any particular party. i see who is more capable and have good 
intentions to do better for country. if country is good everyone is good and if
country is suffering everyone will suffer. 

sometimes political arguments are made based on personal likes dislikes and hatered
and i do not do that. i see where country is going and who is good for country.

if someone will say current govt is not good i will agree. but same person should 
also agree that pakistan in previous govt was doing good. but if someone wants
to accept one fact but not other then it becomes the issue of personal liking which
i dont agree with .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@concernedamericanpak </p>
<p>few things to note here.</p>
<p>i did not say anything about your point of view, everyone has the right to have<br />
any point of view and has the right to support anyone. i do not disagree with you.<br />
but if you read my message i was talking about the language which is used in<br />
posts.  we can be against anyone based on facts and we should try to use facts<br />
and civil language to express our point of view.  which looks more civilized way<br />
to discuss things. if everyone starts calling names to each other it does not look good.<br />
so it was about langauge not point of view.</p>
<p>the second thing is i m not sure why my certain comments are not posted. i dont see<br />
any reason for that as i also have right to support anyone and be against of anyone<br />
based on facts. and i usually explain the facts.  may be they are not in line with the<br />
common perception. most of the times perception is different then reality. i talk<br />
mostly about reality and facts but not sure why my comments are not posted.</p>
<p>the third thing is only i was not engaging you, sometimes you answer to my post<br />
and sometimes i answer to your posts.  so if you do not want to answer to any<br />
particular post and engage anyone that is fine with me. but i can still address other<br />
people who are more interested in discussion based on facts. </p>
<p>i do not support any particular party. i see who is more capable and have good<br />
intentions to do better for country. if country is good everyone is good and if<br />
country is suffering everyone will suffer. </p>
<p>sometimes political arguments are made based on personal likes dislikes and hatered<br />
and i do not do that. i see where country is going and who is good for country.</p>
<p>if someone will say current govt is not good i will agree. but same person should<br />
also agree that pakistan in previous govt was doing good. but if someone wants<br />
to accept one fact but not other then it becomes the issue of personal liking which<br />
i dont agree with .</p>
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		<title>By: JavedKhan</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268699</link>
		<dc:creator>JavedKhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mhali

If you want that all your comments should be included here(and not moderated)  than you must use the word Shaheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed with everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mhali</p>
<p>If you want that all your comments should be included here(and not moderated)  than you must use the word Shaheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed with everything.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcernedAmericanPak</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268677</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcernedAmericanPak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mhali


If you notice I do not  get involve and use this form as a tool for chatting with other people and have the personal opinion as the main reason to express myself. 

Could you please stop  addressing me in the future and stay with the due purpose of this site to get Pakistani people involve in political debate. 

Since you and your kind will not agree with me and are going on an offensive by using offensive language about me the messenger. 

It will be wise for us to divorce from our “discussion” status. 

Do not talk to me again, and I will ignore you, because I have tried hard to converse with you and you keep coming back with same baseless allegations and are keep repeating    yourself. Now you have your friends and family involved to discard my opinions. 

Stop begging PKP for yourself, they sensor me just like anyone else. I even have written harsh criticism of the young men and they have the courage to print it. 

It’s not them the issue, it is you. Do not respond to me and since you are showing a personal interest in me , if you can not control the urge   , please do it for the last time. 

Have your fan club to agree with you and you have total  respect from me to express yourself freely, its up to the mature readers to agree or disagree with our opinions.  


 I hope if you have  iota of commonsense and shame, you will stay out of my way and continue your crusade of love for the current failed political setup and enjoy the agreeable fan club. I can have a political debate for rest of eternity and can keep exchanging foul language, but it will not solve anything. Again , leave me alone MR? Miss? Or whatever the hell kind of creature you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mhali</p>
<p>If you notice I do not  get involve and use this form as a tool for chatting with other people and have the personal opinion as the main reason to express myself. </p>
<p>Could you please stop  addressing me in the future and stay with the due purpose of this site to get Pakistani people involve in political debate. </p>
<p>Since you and your kind will not agree with me and are going on an offensive by using offensive language about me the messenger. </p>
<p>It will be wise for us to divorce from our “discussion” status. </p>
<p>Do not talk to me again, and I will ignore you, because I have tried hard to converse with you and you keep coming back with same baseless allegations and are keep repeating    yourself. Now you have your friends and family involved to discard my opinions. </p>
<p>Stop begging PKP for yourself, they sensor me just like anyone else. I even have written harsh criticism of the young men and they have the courage to print it. </p>
<p>It’s not them the issue, it is you. Do not respond to me and since you are showing a personal interest in me , if you can not control the urge   , please do it for the last time. </p>
<p>Have your fan club to agree with you and you have total  respect from me to express yourself freely, its up to the mature readers to agree or disagree with our opinions.  </p>
<p> I hope if you have  iota of commonsense and shame, you will stay out of my way and continue your crusade of love for the current failed political setup and enjoy the agreeable fan club. I can have a political debate for rest of eternity and can keep exchanging foul language, but it will not solve anything. Again , leave me alone MR? Miss? Or whatever the hell kind of creature you are.</p>
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		<title>By: mhali</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268663</link>
		<dc:creator>mhali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@concernedamericanpak

i guess you should seriously look at the language you use on this post. 

I dont know how moderator posts your all comments and not post our comments
which are mainly based on facts but may be having different point of view what
is not allowed here.  

most of my comments are not posted here even though they are fine. but your
comments are always posted even though the language of your comments
is not civil.

I am not sure what is the purpose of this forum if we can not discuss different
point of views and language like this is allowed here.

i dont know if this comment will also be posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@concernedamericanpak</p>
<p>i guess you should seriously look at the language you use on this post. </p>
<p>I dont know how moderator posts your all comments and not post our comments<br />
which are mainly based on facts but may be having different point of view what<br />
is not allowed here.  </p>
<p>most of my comments are not posted here even though they are fine. but your<br />
comments are always posted even though the language of your comments<br />
is not civil.</p>
<p>I am not sure what is the purpose of this forum if we can not discuss different<br />
point of views and language like this is allowed here.</p>
<p>i dont know if this comment will also be posted.</p>
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		<title>By: ConcernedAmericanPak</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268646</link>
		<dc:creator>ConcernedAmericanPak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Sshame on you to disregard Quranic verses and telling me that it is mis-quoted. They are word of Allah and are very clear. But you are a liar, in your response to @mahali you said you bloody study high school with JEWS and now you are flipping your ass and telling me you have studied Islamic subjects in school.”

Dear w, You are a misguided soul and a person who does not no the American education system. I never said that I went to high School in USA, I said, Junior collage and university. You can scroll up and look at it. 

“I have good Jewish friends, whom I went to university and junior collage with.” 

My language is full of sarcasms and  use cretin words which actually define the person action metaphorically. You have gone commando on me and the same person who acts like  an expert in Quran using such foul language does not make any sense. 

Seems like you are trying to defend @mahali, and doing so you are willing to cross any line. 

“Your evil zionist propaganda about Pakistan being a non-islamic state will not succeed here.”You bloody Jew backside licker what the hell you think Pakistan is a Zionist state where Politics should have nothing to do with Islam???” You degenerated sick mind&quot;   


I am shocked that writing against the political ethnic and family Mafia’s of Pakistan and a serial killer Altaf Bhai is “evil Zionist propaganda”. 

As a Muslim you are showing quite interest in Zionist Asses  and defending another man with so much passion has your inner Gayness written all over. 

I sent you a similar response but the Admin chose to sensor me and kept your ass ridden comment. 

Your anger and foul language does not bother me but your use of  holly Quran to justify holly wars against the Jews and Christians make you a very dangerous person for the Muslim communities in the world. 

This Web Site is read by many different people and your degreased and  careless use of and coating of Quran’s  verses will be used as an example of intolerant and warmonger Muslims on the simple basses of religious differences.


Please feel free to call me more names but avoid the use of Quran in your mentally demented messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Sshame on you to disregard Quranic verses and telling me that it is mis-quoted. They are word of Allah and are very clear. But you are a liar, in your response to @mahali you said you bloody study high school with JEWS and now you are flipping your ass and telling me you have studied Islamic subjects in school.”</p>
<p>Dear w, You are a misguided soul and a person who does not no the American education system. I never said that I went to high School in USA, I said, Junior collage and university. You can scroll up and look at it. </p>
<p>“I have good Jewish friends, whom I went to university and junior collage with.” </p>
<p>My language is full of sarcasms and  use cretin words which actually define the person action metaphorically. You have gone commando on me and the same person who acts like  an expert in Quran using such foul language does not make any sense. </p>
<p>Seems like you are trying to defend @mahali, and doing so you are willing to cross any line. </p>
<p>“Your evil zionist propaganda about Pakistan being a non-islamic state will not succeed here.”You bloody Jew backside licker what the hell you think Pakistan is a Zionist state where Politics should have nothing to do with Islam???” You degenerated sick mind&#8221;   </p>
<p>I am shocked that writing against the political ethnic and family Mafia’s of Pakistan and a serial killer Altaf Bhai is “evil Zionist propaganda”. </p>
<p>As a Muslim you are showing quite interest in Zionist Asses  and defending another man with so much passion has your inner Gayness written all over. </p>
<p>I sent you a similar response but the Admin chose to sensor me and kept your ass ridden comment. </p>
<p>Your anger and foul language does not bother me but your use of  holly Quran to justify holly wars against the Jews and Christians make you a very dangerous person for the Muslim communities in the world. </p>
<p>This Web Site is read by many different people and your degreased and  careless use of and coating of Quran’s  verses will be used as an example of intolerant and warmonger Muslims on the simple basses of religious differences.</p>
<p>Please feel free to call me more names but avoid the use of Quran in your mentally demented messages.</p>
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		<title>By: mujtaba-ali</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268613</link>
		<dc:creator>mujtaba-ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JavedKhan 

andhi taqleed .. andhi muhbat ... andhi nafrat ...

islam aur shariya ki roo se BB shaheed hain ... (shahed e asghar)

aaap kisi alam e deen se pooch lain ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JavedKhan </p>
<p>andhi taqleed .. andhi muhbat &#8230; andhi nafrat &#8230;</p>
<p>islam aur shariya ki roo se BB shaheed hain &#8230; (shahed e asghar)</p>
<p>aaap kisi alam e deen se pooch lain &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mujtaba-ali</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268594</link>
		<dc:creator>mujtaba-ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ sabazbagh 

thori ziadti ker gaye hain bhai ... kuch bhi ho woh barray hain hamaray .... 
I agree to Aftab Ahmad.... that his evil list is much longer .... 
and even if not only one thing of him is more for me to not to suport him and that is the snatching of contentment ... &quot;jalao gherao ... 21 khandan ..... ameeron se cheeno ghareebon ko do ....&quot;  and nation has been ruined ..... 

still my point is ... we should respect elders .... even if they are bad or corrupt in your eyes ........ &quot;Ashfaq Ahmad&#039;s ideology&quot;

un ka jo ka ha unhon ne nahi kia .. hamara kam barron ki izat kerna ha aur choton pe shafqat ... kia hum apna kaam ker rahay hain .....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ sabazbagh </p>
<p>thori ziadti ker gaye hain bhai &#8230; kuch bhi ho woh barray hain hamaray &#8230;.<br />
I agree to Aftab Ahmad&#8230;. that his evil list is much longer &#8230;.<br />
and even if not only one thing of him is more for me to not to suport him and that is the snatching of contentment &#8230; &#8220;jalao gherao &#8230; 21 khandan &#8230;.. ameeron se cheeno ghareebon ko do &#8230;.&#8221;  and nation has been ruined &#8230;.. </p>
<p>still my point is &#8230; we should respect elders &#8230;. even if they are bad or corrupt in your eyes &#8230;&#8230;.. &#8220;Ashfaq Ahmad&#8217;s ideology&#8221;</p>
<p>un ka jo ka ha unhon ne nahi kia .. hamara kam barron ki izat kerna ha aur choton pe shafqat &#8230; kia hum apna kaam ker rahay hain &#8230;..?</p>
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		<title>By: erajdanish</title>
		<link>http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/07/plutocrat-politicians-as-party-patriarchs/#comment-268568</link>
		<dc:creator>erajdanish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Problem with Pakistan is not that it has too many politicians rather the continuety of elections and the exposure by the media of the real faces of these politicians. I think it is about time the media both print and electronic should let the past go. The should stop airing past sorrow events that shook Pakistan. This will not get our country anywhere. This is where I say that our journalists need training before they are put on crucial positions where their words directly affect the people of Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Problem with Pakistan is not that it has too many politicians rather the continuety of elections and the exposure by the media of the real faces of these politicians. I think it is about time the media both print and electronic should let the past go. The should stop airing past sorrow events that shook Pakistan. This will not get our country anywhere. This is where I say that our journalists need training before they are put on crucial positions where their words directly affect the people of Pakistan.</p>
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